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[Q] Should I keep my Xperia arc s or sell it to buy other phones?

Is it hard for Xperia arc s to catch up with other phone like samsung galaxy s2 and iphone 4s?
Should I sell it?

Wait if jb comes to arc s then you can have that no need to sell wait for sony announcement

If you think these phones will improve your mobile life,then yes, but if you want one just to be up to date then don't bother,I had an iPhone4s and capability wise its not that different to the Arc S also I felt it had a big lack of customization compared to the Arc S e.g ROMS, firmwares,themes etc
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I've just bought one so maybe not a objective adviser but that deepends what you need. For me arc s better that sgs 2. Better direct sun behavior than super amoled, almost as good camera beside 720 not 1080 recording, brighter screen, not as smooth web browsing but ok on ics, ant+ support, and half a price of sgs 2 in my carrier offer...
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if I were to sell it, I would certainly not get an iPhone!
i've been thinking of selling my arc s as work issued us with an xperia s, but now everytime i pick up my arc, i fall in love with it again (seems all the lags and cracks are easy to forget! lol), might sell it and get the xperia t so at least i can still have a reminder of the perfect shape!

This is like tryin to get to the end of a rainbow mate....
So you sell your Arc S for something newer then....... 2 months later your "upgrade" is behind again...
IMHO the Arc S is still a great fone (I have one)
If you want to freshen it up why not try one of the ICS/JB roms in the developer forum?

As above. I've had my Arc for 16 months, I chose it above the sgs2 as I believed(and still do) that the screen and looks of the Arc outweigh the performance of the s2. I've been trying to make up my mind about a new phone since February, and while I'd be lying if I said there's not much difference between my arc and an s3 it still does what I need it to do. Probably the next nexus, or even the xperia T, will push me to change.

wolfe_b said:
This is like tryin to get to the end of a rainbow mate....
So you sell your Arc S for something newer then....... 2 months later your "upgrade" is behind again...
IMHO the Arc S is still a great fone (I have one)
If you want to freshen it up why not try one of the ICS/JB roms in the developer forum?
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THIS.
Agree with you.
I was using a Nokia 5800 since 2010 and recently bought the Arc S and only because it was cheap. Only thing that are annoys me is the battery life... I' d say it's 50% less efficient in comparison with the 5800. :\

panda0 said:
THIS.
Agree with you.
I was using a Nokia 5800 since 2010 and recently bought the Arc S and only because it was cheap. Only thing that are annoys me is the battery life... I' d say it's 50% less efficient in comparison with the 5800. :\
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Yes but Android is 50% more fun than Symbian

wolfe_b said:
Yes but Android is 50% more fun than Symbian
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I like both.
But the 5800 is too old now. I tried to use it today and now I really know why they call it "puchscreen", lol.

Xperia T vs Xperia ION

I've been playing around with the xperia T and I can say for sure that the screen of the xperia ion is so much better. In fact, maybe the Xperia ion has the best screen that Sony has ever made, with vibrant colors and stellar contrast for an LCD panel.
The battery life is surprisingly on par, but xperia T is noticeably faster and smoother, literally flies.
I can't say if upgrading from the Ion to Xperia T it's worthy. If the screen is your main priority, stay with the ION.

Every person have different taste,so who have better specs win,but I do support the phone that I owned
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I'd definitely go with the T because of the s4 processor. Though I'd expect for the T to last much longer than the ion. On the other hand, I've read reviews on the T and there's really not much of a difference to the S and ion. I'm just glad that the T doesn't look like the Xperia sx or else I'd be regretting getting the ion even more because the sx is the sexiest phone evar!
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So how is that 13 mp cam on the T compared to the 12 on ion?
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princemarcus19 said:
So how is that 13 mp cam on the T compared to the 12 on ion?
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Check this out
Shootout: Nokia 808 PureView vs Sony Xperia T.
Very impressive images for the T, in my opinion at least.
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this just struck me
The ion and the T have the same size screen, but isn't the T constrained by perma-on screen buttons? So wouldn't that make the viewable area of the display effectively smaller on the T?

Yes, i guess so.
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I thought the T had a 4.6 and the Ion 4.55. Maybe that makes up the difference. I'm getting different screen specs from different sites. Also, some say TFT for the T and others say LCD. Does anyone have the real hard specs?

gerbsterkiller said:
I thought the T had a 4.6 and the Ion 4.55. Maybe that makes up the difference. I'm getting different screen specs from different sites. Also, some say TFT for the T and others say LCD. Does anyone have the real hard specs?
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Screen is exacting the same size

I just got an Ion, and am contemplating returning it for a T. As far as I can tell these are the differences - does anyone have more?
Processor: S3 vs. S4. Real world difference?
Ion has cumbersome flap covering the µUSB and dedicated µHDMI ports. T exposes the single µUSB+MHL port, which is more convenient if you plug it in to the charger often (e.g while driving)
Ion has dedicated off-screen keys, whereas T adds buttons within the screen. These buttons are not visible when playing movies full-screen, but otherwise eats into the real estate on the screen.
T has "mini apps" that can be launched from the task manager. These don't seem to exist on the Ion (also with ICS)
12 vs 13MP camera sensor. Is the latter larger, or simply more packed? Are pictures any better?
Video recording is reported to be better with the T
Ion screen is brighter?
Ion has slightly better looks? T is a bit drab.. but then has the coolness effect from Bond. James Bond.
T will get Jelly Bean for certain. Not sure about Ion.
I'm slightly leaning toward returning the Ion and getting a T, mainly for more convenient access to the µUSB port.
(Mostly I'd like to be able to keep my Nokia 808 PureView - but it has some unforgivable bugs such as spurious reboots when connecting to certain HSDPA-enabled cells, and seems to be completely abandoned by Nokia at this point...)

Ion will get Jellybean, Google announced years ago that Sony, Samsung, etc are committed to update their phones for the next 9 months. Sony, among the rest, has the best track record with updating old phones
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Hlorri said:
I just got an Ion, and am contemplating returning it for a T. As far as I can tell these are the differences - does anyone have more?
Processor: S3 vs. S4. Real world difference?
Ion has cumbersome flap covering the µUSB and dedicated µHDMI ports. T exposes the single µUSB+MHL port, which is more convenient if you plug it in to the charger often (e.g while driving)
Ion has dedicated off-screen keys, whereas T adds buttons within the screen. These buttons are not visible when playing movies full-screen, but otherwise eats into the real estate on the screen.
T has "mini apps" that can be launched from the task manager. These don't seem to exist on the Ion (also with ICS)
12 vs 13MP camera sensor. Is the latter larger, or simply more packed? Are pictures any better?
Video recording is reported to be better with the T
Ion screen is brighter?
Ion has slightly better looks? T is a bit drab.. but then has the coolness effect from Bond. James Bond.
T will get Jelly Bean for certain. Not sure about Ion.
I'm slightly leaning toward returning the Ion and getting a T, mainly for more convenient access to the µUSB port.
(Mostly I'd like to be able to keep my Nokia 808 PureView - but it has some unforgivable bugs such as spurious reboots when connecting to certain HSDPA-enabled cells, and seems to be completely abandoned by Nokia at this point...)
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Believe me, no difference on real world performance between S3 or S4 processor, S4 is faster but there's no so much difference, and Xperia T gets very hot running games, same as the ION.
Screen is so much better on the ION. Design feels much premium on the ION too.
Xperia T only wins with slightly better battery life (around 15% better, not so much).
All 2012 devices will get Jelly Bean at the end of the year.

I see Att offical announced the Xperia TL, I have the Ion, only I don`t like is the buttons on the bottom, I like the TL with the on screen buttons, like the nexus, which I have installed the mod to put the on screen buttons on my phone and they are a little small, I will probably buy this phone I`m a phone whore lol

Unbranded Xperia TL firmware?
One more question that comes to mind is whether I can flash the Xperia TL with Xperia T firmware, and retain LTE support?
This is possible with the Ion: Physically the LT28at and LT28i is the same device, so you can flash LT28i (but not LT28h) firmware on it even if you get it from AT&T. But I don't see any unbranded/OEM versions of the T with LTE support?
Does one have to suffer AT&T branding to get LTE on the T?

Hlorri said:
One more question that comes to mind is whether I can flash the Xperia TL with Xperia T firmware, and retain LTE support?
This is possible with the Ion: Physically the LT28at and LT28i is the same device, so you can flash LT28i (but not LT28h) firmware on it even if you get it from AT&T. But I don't see any unbranded/OEM versions of the T with LTE support?
Does one have to suffer AT&T branding to get LTE on the T?
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We will probably be able to flash the LT30p firmware excluding the baseband to keep LTE like how we flashed the LT28h firmware before official ICS came out.
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Spectre51 said:
We will probably be able to flash the LT30p firmware excluding the baseband to keep LTE like how we flashed the LT28h firmware before official ICS came out.
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Nice.
Aside from that dull display thing, this thing seems like a winner. I'm sure it will do well on AT&T...

It is bugging me how this thread isn't getting more action! What do you think Spectre51?
I got an ion as my first Andriod phone, and when the ICS update came out I was really enjoying it. The phone seemed too slow though. A quick trip back to the home screen from an app appeared to relaunch the entire home screen, with blank widgets staring at me. It lacked that premium feeling. I wonder if the T's S4 takes care of the home screen reloading faster. I returned the ion and I'm back to my iPhone 4.
The T at first seemed like a no-brainer upgrade, but the more I learn about it the more bummed I am. Worse camera than other phones, annoying on-screen buttons, poor color detail compared to the ion, no mini HDMI, washed out display.. it's killed my excitement. Lol.
I'm looking forward to trying out the T but I hope the ion promotion doesn't end in case it looks like the ion is going to be the better choice.

blindwarrior said:
It is bugging me how this thread isn't getting more action! What do you think Spectre51?
I got an ion as my first Andriod phone, and when the ICS update came out I was really enjoying it. The phone seemed too slow though. A quick trip back to the home screen from an app appeared to relaunch the entire home screen, with blank widgets staring at me. It lacked that premium feeling. I wonder if the T's S4 takes care of the home screen reloading faster. I returned the ion and I'm back to my iPhone 4.
The T at first seemed like a no-brainer upgrade, but the more I learn about it the more bummed I am. Worse camera than other phones, annoying on-screen buttons, poor color detail compared to the ion, no mini HDMI, washed out display.. it's killed my excitement. Lol.
I'm looking forward to trying out the T but I hope the ion promotion doesn't end in case it looks like the ion is going to be the better choice.
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I don't have the home screen redraw problem on my ion like you experienced but then again I don't use alot of Widgets.
Its funny how people don't like the on screen buttons when it seems for a while before people complained about hardware buttons. To each their own I guess. I will get my hands in a TL this weekend to play with and will report back my thoughts when comparing it to my Xperia S and ion.
The camera will be good. Most Sony phones have good cameras in them. Yeh they could be better with less compression but they are still decent.
I'll take some pictures this weekend comparing the screens and see how it looks.
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Spectre51 said:
I don't have the home screen redraw problem on my ion like you experienced but then again I don't use alot of Widgets.
Its funny how people don't like the on screen buttons when it seems girl a while before people complained about hardware buttons. To each their own I guess. I will get my hands in a TL this weekend to play with and will report back my thoughts when comparing it to my Xperia S and ion.
The camera will be good. Most Don't phones have good cameras in them. Yeh they could be better with less compression but they are still decent.
I'll take some pictures this weekend comparing the screens and see how it looks.
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This is going to be the highlight of my weekend! lol.
Also, do you all really think ion will get Jelly Bean? 'Cause it sure is lookin' good.

I would be surprised if it didn't.

is this a good smartphone?

hey guys, i came from optimus 2x thread and my phone is getting old, i'm thinking to buy this phone, for people who have this phone already what can you say or what is your experienced? is this device can handle USB OTG in the future? what about the battery life specially in heavy gaming/usage? -----sorry for my bad english

What mobile carrier are you on? The zl is an amazing phone. I came from the note 2 which was also quad core and I feel this phone to be more speedy than the note 2 was. Benchmarks higher too. And compared to the g2x the battery life is a lot better from that. I can say that the battery is not ad good as my note 2 though.
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Z or ZL?
I am coming from an Arc S and I'm just wondering if this phone would support mods coming from the Z where the forums is a lot more active; just like how Neo and Ray gets mods from Arc S...
I am still torn between the two, but overall I think both phones would be a good buy

JRBT24 said:
I am coming from an Arc S and I'm just wondering if this phone would support mods coming from the Z where the forums is a lot more active; just like how Neo and Ray gets mods from Arc S...
I am still torn between the two, but overall I think both phones would be a good buy
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Well from my past phone, I guess it was depend on what kind of mod it is, Roms of course wont work I wouldnt think, But themes and such might be the same.

AW: is this a good smartphone?
I'm using 2x as well atm, and I most likely will get the ZL soon. It was hard to choose between Z, ZL, HTC one and S4, but I think this one is the most beautiful and useful phone for me, although SoC isn't at Top anymore. I don't care of benchmarks, I need a mature phone and not some kiddy playtoy like samsung or htc. Thats what I think after weeks of thinking which phone it could be...
Don't want to offend anyone, just my 2 cents.

i think more people will go to sony ZL, sony Z is only special because of its water and dust resistant feature but other than that ZL is more attractive by its design and specially the IR remote
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[Q] Z or SP for S?

Hello guys,
after the long wait for Jelly bean on my Xperia S ive had enough of that phone. It lags a lot in the Homescreen, its slow very often, the walkman random pauses, its sluggish and the support is as good as dead. So now im Thinking of buying a new phone in mid Juli. So my question is: What phone do you think i should get? Ive got my eye on the Z and the SP. I know SP is only a midrange phone, but I completely love the design of it. The Z is more expensive, but probably the better phone. I like Sony a lot, because of the general design and the UI. I wont even start about the support because,... well you know.. And im begging you, no Samsung suggestions )

Radixtrator said:
Hello guys,
after the long wait for Jelly bean on my Xperia S ive had enough of that phone. It lags a lot in the Homescreen, its slow very often, the walkman random pauses, its sluggish and the support is as good as dead. So now im Thinking of buying a new phone in mid Juli. So my question is: What phone do you think i should get? Ive got my eye on the Z and the SP. I know SP is only a midrange phone, but I completely love the design of it. The Z is more expensive, but probably the better phone. I like Sony a lot, because of the general design and the UI. I wont even start about the support because,... well you know.. And im begging you, no Samsung suggestions )
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might as well go all out and buy the Z. Its flagship status pretty much guarantees it will be first in line for updates (at least for this year, cant say anything bout next year). better specs and great design, plus water(Proof/resistant).

Yeah I thought so.. I just hope Sony fixes everything in Jelly Bean..

noo!! i refer you to uy SP i know Z is better in everything than sp but SP is simple and just like the S u can use it with 1 hand and its battery life is incredible than the Z so i refer you to go with SP

Zenx_X said:
noo!! i refer you to uy SP i know Z is better in everything than sp but SP is simple and just like the S u can use it with 1 hand and its battery life is incredible than the Z so i refer you to go with SP
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+1 me to the xperia sp is my next phone

If you are going to spend your bucks on Xperia Z range phones, I would suggest you to buy the HTC One...
Don't buy the SP, it's a mid - range non flagship phone - - - - - SO FORGET ABOUT LONG TERM SUPPORT(Look how Sony is treating their last year flagship XS, so SP will suck big time in terms of support from Sony)..

Yeah the xperia S is almost dead to Sony, thats the only thing ( except the the bugs) that i really hate about this phone..

Don't think and just go for Z. It has amazing support from Sony and should even have long term support. I think that it even has good developer support on XDA, No need to say anything about the performance. I can easily run any game or app without a single lag on my XZ. There is enough ram to anything that you want. Around 1-1.2 GB free ram is perfect for all user apps. XZ and SP are not comparable. If money doesn't matter to you, just go for a XZ. Believe me, you won't regret it.

Jackmax32 said:
If you are going to spend your bucks on Xperia Z range phones, I would suggest you to buy the HTC One...
Don't buy the SP, it's a mid - range non flagship phone - - - - - SO FORGET ABOUT LONG TERM SUPPORT(Look how Sony is treating their last year flagship XS, so SP will suck big time in terms of support from Sony)..
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If your gonna shell out the money for a Z why on earth wouldnt you get the HTC One? Its definatly better in my opinion.
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FanDroid09 said:
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If your gonna shell out the money for a Z why on earth wouldnt you get the HTC One? Its definatly better in my opinion.
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Yeah HTC One is better in my opinion (even though I'm a total Sony fan). It's chipset and display is top-notch. Battery life is also better than Z.
HTC One - over 10 hours of video playback, almost 10 hrs of web browsing and 13 hrs of 3G talk time
Xperia Z - 5 and a half hour of video playback, 6 and a half hour of web browsing, 16 hrs of 3G talk time.
(source: GSMArena's battery tests)
Despite its 4MP Ultrapixel camera...HTC is trying to provide continuous software updates to provide better camera quality and improvements.
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That was one of the bigger dilemmas i was facing HTC one or z.. I just dont really like the ui htc provides and i simply love all the things sony adds to the roms.. The walkman app for instance. It is by far the best music app
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HTC one is a better opinion I think
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I wont even start about the support because,... well you know.. And im begging you, no Samsung suggestions )
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Wait until Sony releases thier next flagship.
Sent from my sunken ship xperia s.

That will take a while i guess...
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bluechelsea said:
Wait until Sony releases thier next flagship.
Sent from my sunken ship xperia s.
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And when that happens the next flagship rumours will start to pop and someone will say: "Wait for next flagship". You can't wait for the best around the corner, because there will always be one"

Yeah, thats what I was thinking.. Lets just hope the JB for Xperia S really fixes everything

Leaving my own personal rants on Sony's software support out of it; i too am in the same boat currently owning an Ion.
As far as the big Android phones for 2013, this is all i've noticed so far...still have plenty of time to figure it out before my upgrade, and i'm hoping i'm happy enough with JB to just wait it out until next year.
Sony Xperia Z/ZL: by far the absolute best physical design i've seen so far in a phone. 5" screen freaked me out at first, but its barely bigger than my Ion, just much more screen. I haven't held a ZL yet, but the Z is pretty incredible if you haven't seen it in person yet. At the same time, its a big 'who knows' on its support. Going by 2012, it'll get one update late summer...then barely ever get mentioned again...Soon after 18 more phones will be available, and Sony will continue having no realistic way of supporting devices they already sold.
HTC One: Good design overall. Most are reporting its very durable, good for me as i love dropping things that are expensive. Not sure about all that layered UI stuff they're up to yet though. Only bad thing for me would be the lack of SD card support.
Samsung Galaxy S4: By far the most popular choice, creating a community of users that rivals Apple, and the support that comes with it. Too bad, though, it looks like a toy. I wouldn't be surprised if the box included a Sesame Street DVD.
for all the above reasons, i'd be very happy just waiting it out and seeing what 2014 brings. maybe sony will turn it around company wise, maybe not. But i still think the Z is too early in this mess for it not to share the EXACT same fate as last years flagship.

jtr165 said:
Leaving my own personal rants on Sony's software support out of it; i too am in the same boat currently owning an Ion.
As far as the big Android phones for 2013, this is all i've noticed so far...still have plenty of time to figure it out before my upgrade, and i'm hoping i'm happy enough with JB to just wait it out until next year.
Sony Xperia Z/ZL: by far the absolute best physical design i've seen so far in a phone. 5" screen freaked me out at first, but its barely bigger than my Ion, just much more screen. I haven't held a ZL yet, but the Z is pretty incredible if you haven't seen it in person yet. At the same time, its a big 'who knows' on its support. Going by 2012, it'll get one update late summer...then barely ever get mentioned again...Soon after 18 more phones will be available, and Sony will continue having no realistic way of supporting devices they already sold.
HTC One: Good design overall. Most are reporting its very durable, good for me as i love dropping things that are expensive. Not sure about all that layered UI stuff they're up to yet though. Only bad thing for me would be the lack of SD card support.
Samsung Galaxy S4: By far the most popular choice, creating a community of users that rivals Apple, and the support that comes with it. Too bad, though, it looks like a toy. I wouldn't be surprised if the box included a Sesame Street DVD.
for all the above reasons, i'd be very happy just waiting it out and seeing what 2014 brings. maybe sony will turn it around company wise, maybe not. But i still think the Z is too early in this mess for it not to share the EXACT same fate as last years flagship.
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Either you live long enough to buy it now,or regret not to buy it later
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Jackmax32 said:
If you are going to spend your bucks on Xperia Z range phones, I would suggest you to buy the HTC One...
Don't buy the SP, it's a mid - range non flagship phone - - - - - SO FORGET ABOUT LONG TERM SUPPORT(Look how Sony is treating their last year flagship XS, so SP will suck big time in terms of support from Sony)..
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Unfortunately, the midranger like XP are getting JB 1st before XS. Not to mention XS got ICS latter than 2011 devices.
The thing is the cost of XZ or HTC ONE is twice the price of XSP.
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Yes, of course those phones cost twice as much as the XS. But lets face it, the XS has horrible support and an extremley buggy ICS.. Why do you guys think the HTC one is so much better? It probably is a bit better, but id really like to know why. Andthe Z is now already available for 500€ which is a lot less than the HTC

Sticking Around or Moving On?

I am just curious to see how everyone feels about their ZL, or experience with Sony as a whole.
For me it's been a mixed bag. Overall, this is by LONG and FAR the most headache-free phone I've ever owned. Period. It's got all the features that I need and it works as it should when needed. I would not trade it for any other Android phone out there, especially a Samsung or HTC. With that all said, I can't help myself being sucked in by all the Nexus 5 rumors. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, I should have naturally grabbed the Nexus 4, but lack of AT&T-compatible LTE kept me away. Now, with rumored specs coming out by the day, I must say that I am highly tempted by the prospect of owning a Nexus 5.
So what hasn't Sony done to possibly lose me as a customer? Here is the list:
Camera
I doubt I'm alone here to admit that I got had [major time] by Sony's PR when it came to the camera. Simply put, the camera is pure rubbish. I use my work provided iPhone 5c to take pics instead. Sad.
Hardware
Speaking strictly of the paint around the edge, could sony have made it less durable? The slightest bump flakes it off.
Update
I love the fact that there is an update every month to address an issue or two. The bad part, every update either reintroduces an old issue or introduces a new one. Come on.
Wireless Charging
Instead of focusing their efforts on waterproofing, I would love to see Sony bring us wireless charging. Chances of me using wireless charging, every hour of every day. Chances of me diving into a pool with my phone, next to none.
AOSP
If you're going to claim that you support the open community and such, don't release AOSP binaries that do not work. That defeats the whole purpose. I don't mind Sony's stock ROMs, but I like the fact that AOSP gets me the latest and greatest.
Speakers
iPhone had it right. HTC One got it right. Nexus 5 rumored to have gotten it right. Why did Sony put the speaker on the back of the phone is beyond me. It renders it useless when in it's natural position.
So, does this mean I don't adore my Xperia ZL? No, far from it. Does it mean I might consider an alternative device that gives me the above, maybe. Is the Nexus 5 looking better and better? Yeah!

The ZL was the phone I kept the longest in years...
Moving to a Z1. Just receive from Clove. Not waiting for the US ones.
ZL will stay as a back up.
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Even if I had €1000000 I would probably still stick with ZL until Sony comes with a ZL1.
Z1f looks nice thought but I don't wanna go back to 4.3". I just want a ZL with new hardware and waterproof.
But... I don't have €1000000 so I will have my ZL for at least another 1.5 years if all goes well

I love my ZL but today I've saw the Note 3 and damn it's a nice phone.. Thinking about moving forward...
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Sticking around with zl, however fully dependant on nexus 5 features and pricing.
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Luv my zl, but kinda bored with it. Thinking of z ultra, or maybe im dreaming..
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I'll be replacing my ZL with the Note 5 or 6, it wholly depends on when it dies on me.

coming from galaxy s4...lovin my ZL:victory:

Based on leaks from the official Google Play store, the 16GB is sure to be $349. Guessing the 32GB is $399. The phone looks sick good though. Like I said, love my ZL, but wireless charging and stock Android might win me over with that price.
coolrevi said:
Sticking around with zl, however fully dependant on nexus 5 features and pricing.
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Are the pictures really that bad on the ZL cause that would be of the only thing's that I don't like about the phone that and the fact they don't use guerrilla glass looking to leave my Xperia T for a ZL I'm not liking any other phone at the moment.
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spielnicht said:
Based on leaks from the official Google Play store, the 16GB is sure to be $349. Guessing the 32GB is $399. The phone looks sick good though. Like I said, love my ZL, but wireless charging and stock Android might win me over with that price.
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From Xperia t to zl I don see it as upgrade. If you are willing to buy I would rather suggest z1 which is a good buy in many term
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I'll keep mine till its dead, I was thinking about the Z1 but its way to big, if they do a new more powerful 5" with the same overall size as the ZL I would consider it in 2 years... interested to see if the camera gets any more improvements in the ZL, I like the quality, but not as picky as some..... video recording is good too.... Battery life could use a little more help though
Hoping for the Z1 camera App on the ZL in the 4.3 update, hopefully before Christmas...... Personally I think superior auto sucks, no image stabilizer, normal mode with my own settings works great.
4.4 may never come but that's ok, as long as 4.3 gets minor tweaking updates here and there.

So do you guys think the ZL is a good phone for a beginner?
The Z1 looks bulky indeed and LG G2 will be sold in my country (Brazil) only in 16GB option (no SD slot? WTF LG?)
I don´t have plans to play powerful games on it (just angry birds or something like when I'm waiting for something). I want a bigger screen to my GPS aps, listen music via Bluethoot (via car stereo) and watch video (High def videos on SD card, youtube, vimeo etc)

My dad has an Xperia T and based on some comparison shots, the images don't differ much. In other words, they both...suck. If I was to pick a single disappointment with the ZL, it would be the camera.
I know where you are coming from not liking any other phone out there. I am not an SG4 or HTC One fan. I'd consider the Z1, but Sony really dropped the ball by not including an AT&T/T-Mobile LTE friendly chip. So it's not even a consideration for me
Definitely wait until the Nexus 5 comes out. Looks very promising, both in specs and design.
Torres77an said:
Are the pictures really that bad on the ZL cause that would be of the only thing's that I don't like about the phone that and the fact they don't use guerrilla glass looking to leave my Xperia T for a ZL I'm not liking any other phone at the moment.
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thinking of upgrading from a xperia ion....zl is the maximum that i can afford..nd i kinda love the white one
Is there anything else apart from the camera that i should look into before buying?
no nexus in my country else would've waited for nexus 5 :/

I've take the same picture with an iPhone 5 and with my Xperia T and then again the same picture with a Galaxy s3 we compared them at work and my other to co-workers had to agree that the Xperia T photo looked the best though mind you Bravia was enabled yes there's room for improvement on Sony's camera phones but even with the Bravia engine turned off the photos are not that far behind the rest of the mobile devices out there but what it does lack is consistency that the others have now with the z1 having better hardware and software the problem with the camera is almost gone it just seems to over expose photos at times so does the LG G2 though it's clearly not as good in the comparison that I've seen between it and the Z1
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Torres77an said:
I've take the same picture with an iPhone 5 and with my Xperia T and then again the same picture with a Galaxy s3 we compared them at work and my other to co-workers had to agree that the Xperia T photo looked the best though mind you Bravia was enabled yes there's room for improvement on Sony's camera phones but even with the Bravia engine turned off the photos are not that far behind the rest of the mobile devices out there but what it does lack is consistency that the others have now with the z1 having better hardware and software the problem with the camera is almost gone it just seems to over expose photos at times so does the LG G2 though it's clearly not as good in the comparison that I've seen between it and the Z1
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That's not how you compare photos, you put them on the same computer and then compare them on the PC. That way the different displays and image rendering software of each phone won't interfere.

my photos look basically the same after they have been uploaded to my pc
Dead Metal said:
That's not how you compare photos, you put them on the same computer and then compare them on the PC. That way the different displays and image rendering software of each phone won't interfere.
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I've also seen comparisons with the iPhone 5 and the Xperia T on the internet and the iPhone's aren't that much better better but not by much but definitely more consistent I think the Xperia software may need some work with it's poor autofocus half of the photos do turn out like crap.

Torres77an said:
I've also seen comparisons with the iPhone 5 and the Xperia T on the internet and the iPhone's aren't that much better better but not by much but definitely more consistent I think the Xperia software may need some work with it's poor autofocus half of the photos do turn out like crap.
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Yup, they do need to give that a work over, but someone pointed be in the direction of Camera FV-5, which is brilliant. The best camera app I've ever used, only downside is it does not have an auto-mode, and sometimes it does not save the pictures, especially when you use the hardware camera button.
Hope that gets fixed soon.

That's exactly what I did Took a pic of the same object, dropped them in Lightroom side-by-side, the ZL was slightly better (very slightly), but neither anything to brag out.
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That's not how you compare photos, you put them on the same computer and then compare them on the PC. That way the different displays and image rendering software of each phone won't interfere.
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