What Case is This ????? - Galaxy S II Accessories

Hi All,
I bought this case for my SGS2 about 1 Year ago and cant find any records of where I purchased it from.
The case is plastic and has a nice lip to protect the screen and edge of the phone.
I really want to buy another one as the white paint has chipped off most of it.
This is by far the best case I ever owned. Please please please if anyone knows where I can buy that would be ideal.
Thanks.
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Found it on Ebay UK under the name Casemate Barely There
Looks the same, except that it has a casemate logo on the back

It's not the same. I have the casemate one and it doesn't have the lip to protect the screen thanks for looking though bud.
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It looks like the SGP Shell for S2.
Search for it on eBay.

Swayam said:
It looks like the SGP Shell for S2.
Search for it on eBay.
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No matches?
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ipmanwck said:
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I will PM you the link.
Its available on ebay.in

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Cases update

So has anyone bought a silicon like case yet. I have been hoping someone would have put up a review for a case by now. So if you have bought a case for the aria where did u get it? And how good is it? Brand-name? Price? Etc.
Thanks in advance!
Sent from my HTC Aria
Got a case from at&t store its great in quality. already droped a few times with no issues. I think its the htc brand one. It cost like 20 bucks but its tougher and firmer than most silicon style cases ive seen. Also not as sticky as most so it slides in your pocket easier. Although its still sticky when its 92 degrees out like it was today.
sunny342 said:
So has anyone bought a silicon like case yet. I have been hoping someone would have put up a review for a case by now. So if you have bought a case for the aria where did u get it? And how good is it? Brand-name? Price? Etc.
Thanks in advance!
Sent from my HTC Aria
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The Amzer silicone one provides good protection but is bulky and does not fit snuggly on the phone. I could imagine the phone slipping out of the case to indicate how loosely it fits.
When I picked mine up from the AT&T store, they had a pretty nice soft shell case for $25. It was nice looking, fit the phone well (I almost couldn't get the thing off), and looked like it would provide decent protection. I skipped on buying it, however, since the price seemed a bit steep.
i just went to the ATT store today and they had a glossy black (maybe gunmetal) hard case for the aria, it was 25 bucks and i didnt feel like spending that much when i could get the same online for cheaper, but it did look nice.
didnt get a chance to put it on the phone though.
also, it was in a package that said soft case.
I love how this phone feels like it already has a case on it! I haven't dropped the phone (yet, thankfully) but If i did i would be too distraught. I just want to be able to buy a replacement back cover (OEM) for less than $30.
yanney said:
i just went to the ATT store today and they had a glossy black (maybe gunmetal) hard case for the aria, it was 25 bucks and i didnt feel like spending that much when i could get the same online for cheaper, but it did look nice.
didnt get a chance to put it on the phone though.
also, it was in a package that said soft case.
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yeah, it is the case that says HTC on the back, and its the only one they have. its horrible, and very troublesome to unlock the phone.
jbizz said:
yeah, it is the case that says HTC on the back, and its the only one they have. its horrible, and very troublesome to unlock the phone.
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It's a nice hard-ish version of your typical silicone case. It's actually really good and sturdy and my only gripe is that it's a pain to unlock it.. so I use No Lock, which allows you to unlock the phone with any button...the optical touchpad has become my new best friend
AS ANYONE TRIED USING A HD MINI SILCON CASE, OR DOES ANYONE KNOW IF IT WILL FIT. aS WELL AS PRESSING THE UNLOCK BUTTON. damn caps lock sorry
sunny342 said:
AS ANYONE TRIED USING A HD MINI SILCON CASE, OR DOES ANYONE KNOW IF IT WILL FIT. aS WELL AS PRESSING THE UNLOCK BUTTON. damn caps lock sorry
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The Amzer silicon case purchased actually says HD Mini on its packaging. It is quite a loose-fitting case. The one from AT&T, which is more of a plastic smoke translucent case, fits very snuggly with the only downside that it's $25. It says HTC on its back and the silver HTC logo of the phone itself shows through nicely.
AzNnYx said:
It's a nice hard-ish version of your typical silicone case. It's actually really good and sturdy and my only gripe is that it's a pain to unlock it.. so I use No Lock, which allows you to unlock the phone with any button...the optical touchpad has become my new best friend
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yeah, i really liked the case... so i might just have to try your method. thanks!
clickclickpc said:
The Amzer silicon case purchased actually says HD Mini on its packaging. It is quite a loose-fitting case. The one from AT&T, which is more of a plastic smoke translucent case, fits very snuggly with the only downside that it's $25. It says HTC on its back and the silver HTC logo of the phone itself shows through nicely.
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Where did u buy the amzer case because on amazon it say that they will start shipping between 1 and 3 months
sunny342 said:
Where did u buy the amzer case because on amazon it say that they will start shipping between 1 and 3 months
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Amzer.com has them in stock.
Has anyone tried the luxe cases from amzer?
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App
Anyone want to upload some picture or a video of the "snugness" of the amzer silicon case.
Is it anything like this
or at this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6444898
sunny342 said:
Anyone want to upload some picture or a video of the "snugness" of the amzer silicon case.
Is it anything like this
or at this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6444898
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Don't have the case anymore, but you can fit an index finger between the case and the phone without much effort.
jbizz said:
yeah, i really liked the case... so i might just have to try your method. thanks!
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LockBot also allows you to use the optical to wake up.
I just bought my wife a case from pdair for the hd mini and it fits great. The have a number of good colors and its snug as a bug.
It's a very durable silicon skin. Comparable to the one from at&t but its actually easier to push the buttons with the pdair case. So its confirmed for me: hd mini cases work great for th aria.
Sent from my HTC Aria
discord2k said:
I just bought my wife a case from pdair for the hd mini and it fits great. The have a number of good colors and its snug as a bug.
It's a very durable silicon skin. Comparable to the one from at&t but its actually easier to push the buttons with the pdair case. So its confirmed for me: hd mini cases work great for th aria.
Sent from my HTC Aria
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I just ordered myself one, thanks for this info
how are does Amzer® Rubberized Black Snap On Crystal Hard Case fit?
Anyone try this one yet?
http://store.cheapdroids.com/Amzer-Rubberized-Black-Snap-On-Crystal-Hard-Case-aria.html
discord2k said:
I just bought my wife a case from pdair for the hd mini and it fits great. The have a number of good colors and its snug as a bug.
It's a very durable silicon skin. Comparable to the one from at&t but its actually easier to push the buttons with the pdair case. So its confirmed for me: hd mini cases work great for th aria.
Sent from my HTC Aria
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Hum.. I'm thinking about picking one up. I wish Otterbox had a case for the Aria. I'm prone to dropping my phone, so I want something that will protect it from at least minor falls.

Galaxy S II Case/Covers in India

Hello Friend. Can someone suggest me the best case/cases available for S2 in India. Links of ebay india would be appreciated.
Thanks!!
I dont think so , you can find anything here very good in India. I ordered case-mate tough case from uk and I can say its the best you can find.
you can order from online
link please?
I have ordered for tough case
http://www.case-mate.com/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-Cases/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-Cases.asp
but looks like that is out of stock right now...you can order other cases...those also looks good
go for the mesh case. its really good and looks just awesome
u can find it in ebay india
Case Mate Tough is good but I really don't know why should one pay that much money for a case which will cover the back of the phone only. A Rs.150 mesh case could do that.
I always like those Flip Top cases, like, SGP Argos, Zenus Prestige Carbon etc..if you have a good luck with Paypal then go for them.
(See the Best Cases Available thread for more details.)
Regards.
I really like the Molife Fit-to-case that came free with my SGS2 from letsbuy.com
It even has a built in stand that let's me use it as a photoframe!
I bought the Casemate Slim case (silver) from flipkart, and get this, the Molife includes the Casemate Slim case + a holster-stand combo.
I would also want some good looking cases in India itself ,
dont want links from UK , US or outside ,
ebayindia would do , but please post some links of other cases also .
and how about screen protectors ?? which one is the best available
havent applied any since the purchase
lalit.j said:
I would also want some good looking cases in India itself ,
dont want links from UK , US or outside ,
ebayindia would do , but please post some links of other cases also .
and how about screen protectors ?? which one is the best available
havent applied any since the purchase
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If you want cheap Screen Guards then you could consider these,
1- http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/scr...hQ--&ref=cd788287-c7ee-4311-aedd-1ef2b86596b4
2- http://cgi.ebay.in/SCRATCH-GUARD-SC...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item3a68813e1a
3- http://cgi.ebay.in/Amzer-Anti-Glare...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item4cf821b439
However I am using the one from Scratchgard.in, this one, pricey but great gotta say,
http://www.scratchgard.in/productdetail.aspx?cid=9&scid=0&bid=17&pid=782
And for cases, I am loving my Molife Leather Flip Top Case, you could see the pics under Best SGS2 Cases available thread.
If you want, only back side protection, then the Hard Mesh/Silicon cases would do, like these,
1- http://cgi.ebay.in/White-Hard-Mesh-...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item3cba555939
2- http://cgi.ebay.in/Samsung-Galaxy-s...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item27bcfba0f8
3- http://www.scratchgard.in/productdetail.aspx?cid=23&scid=0&bid=79&pid=812
This is the most popular outta them,
4- http://cgi.ebay.in/Amzer-Silicone-C...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item4cf7babab9
Or a Flip Top (leather? I doubt) case like this for full protection,
http://cgi.ebay.in/BLACK-FLIP-POUCH...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item415be5cc5b
Or,
http://cgi.ebay.in/Real-Leather-fli...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item27bcbd0de0
Regards.
I ordered this http://cgi.ebay.in/STYLISH-HARD-MES...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item3a68802fa0
Has anyone tried this one? http://cgi.ebay.in/Samsung-Galaxy-S...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item3a68a0b7d9
Hows tghe ebas case i am about to order this can u please review it ??
the white and black one
anil190185 said:
I ordered this http://cgi.ebay.in/STYLISH-HARD-MES...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item3a68802fa0
Has anyone tried this one? http://cgi.ebay.in/Samsung-Galaxy-S...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item3a68a0b7d9
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Go to amzer.co.in and buy one frm there....I bought silicon jelly case for my phone and I must say that its amazing.....so go ahead....its really worth money....
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Search eBay for the seller Navkar_Collection, they have all the Case Mate cases at an appropriate price. I purchased my Tough for Rs.1295. Now there is no more Tough available from them atm. Great seller, actually a shop and highly recommended.
Regards.

Protective Rubber Gel Back Case for Galaxy Note

Hi All
So the hunt for a good Protective Rubber Gel Back Case for Note begins... similar to this one would be great!!
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/protec...one-back-case-for-i9100-galaxy-s2-black-70754
The minute I find one I'll buy it... I actually prefer getting the case even before I buy the Note.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
I'm with you, this phone is too expensive to damage. I've been searching everyday and have yet to find anything. I usually prefer Ballistics' cases but I doubt they will be making one for this phone so it's back to the drawing board. I'm also wondering if zagg will be making a screen protector for this device. Don't know what I can expect with such a massive device. Maybe turn to the manufacturers of the best tablet cases... I'll post here when I find some cases.
iLiberate said:
I'm with you, this phone is too expensive to damage. I've been searching everyday and have yet to find anything. I usually prefer Ballistics' cases but I doubt they will be making one for this phone so it's back to the drawing board. I'm also wondering if zagg will be making a screen protector for this device. Don't know what I can expect with such a massive device. Maybe turn to the manufacturers of the best tablet cases... I'll post here when I find some cases.
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I facebooked Both Ballistic and Otterbox and they both say they don't have any plans for a case.
I'd hate to use my Note without a really good case. Maby i'll make one out of wood...
blobotorian said:
I facebooked Both Ballistic and Otterbox and they both say they don't have any plans for a case.
I'd hate to use my Note without a really good case. Maby i'll make one out of wood...
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I'm liking the little brown case that just has a front flat that opens up like a book but it's not protective at all lol
Me too but I can't find a link to buy it yet. Expansys has blue and white...... Yuck..
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I think the case of expansys is sleek. It's not making the note any thicker.
Hope they got variety of colors though..
samsung flipover
Samsung will come with a flipover, the back of the flipover will replace the original back of the note. So the note will only become a few mm thicker
I'm also looking to get the Samsung flipover cover when it becomes available. The only problem is the side of the Note remains unprotected, I'm thinking getting a gel case and trim off the left hand side so it will fit togther with the flipover cover.
Meanwhile, here is a really nice durable skin that is already available on Amazon I have used the Skinomi on my previous phones and it covers the phone nicely. All the cutouts are aligned and it barely feels like there is anything on it. Btw, the carbon fiber look makes it look really mean and clean. oh another thing, it's lifetime warranty too.
deliriousbb said:
Meanwhile, here is a really nice durable skin that is already available on Amazon I have used the Skinomi on my previous phones and it covers the phone nicely. All the cutouts are aligned and it barely feels like there is anything on it. Btw, the carbon fiber look makes it look really mean and clean. oh another thing, it's lifetime warranty too.
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How does the screen protector feel? I know the Skinomi's tablet protector feels rubbery.
deliriousbb said:
Meanwhile, here is a really nice durable skin that is already available on Amazon I have used the Skinomi on my previous phones and it covers the phone nicely. All the cutouts are aligned and it barely feels like there is anything on it. Btw, the carbon fiber look makes it look really mean and clean. oh another thing, it's lifetime warranty too.
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The carbon fibre film must just be 3m di-noc carbon fibre, can be had much cheaper on Ebay and you can just custom cut it to any device.
I wont be sludging up my screen with a screen protector
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How does the screen protector feel? I know the Skinomi's tablet protector feels rubbery.
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I used the Carbon Fiber skin on my Streak and loved it .. I will order one for my Note.
Tubgirl said:
Hi All
So the hunt for a good Protective Rubber Gel Back Case for Note begins... similar to this one would be great!!
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/protec...one-back-case-for-i9100-galaxy-s2-black-70754
The minute I find one I'll buy it... I actually prefer getting the case even before I buy the Note.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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yup....looking for the same but no luck.
The flip cover is not practical IMHO esp when making calls.
I always used to get hard crystal clear cases such as
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clear-Cry..._MobilePhonesCasesPouches&hash=item3f0fa5fde0
for my phones.
But lately ive really liked the TPU gel case with stand, such as:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-TPU...204593?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f0db99071
Which is just like the case in the OP really
The stand is surprisingly useful!
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http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-note-official-flip-cover-case-black
is the only case i can find at the moment
Everyone who doesn't need the case right away, wait til piel frama comes out with a imagnum type of case. This case is expensive but it protects your device against any earthquake you throw at it. I have one for my hd2 and getting one for the note cause my hd2 is still like new. You can put in your e-mail and they'll let you know when it's there to buy. Here's the link
http://www.pielframa.com/samsung-galaxy-note-cases.htm
Cheers
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MassoltoV said:
Everyone who doesn't need the case right away, wait til piel frama comes out with a imagnum type of case. This case is expensive but it protects your device against any earthquake you throw at it. I have one for my hd2 and getting one for the note cause my hd2 is still like new. You can put in your e-mail and they'll let you know when it's there to buy. Here's the link
Cheers
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If they release a case like this for the Note I think it might be worth a try. The kickstand could be useful.
w w w.pielframa. c o m/ apple-iphone-4s-cases-imagnum2.htm
drhoades01 said:
If they release a case like this for the Note I think it might be worth a try. The kickstand could be useful.
w w w.pielframa. c o m/ apple-iphone-4s-cases-imagnum2.htm
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You're so right! This type i would use fore use @ home and the solid closed imagnum case for outside
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Guys do you think a leather/cloth Pouch Pull case would be good enough?
E.g: I though I had more posts here. Anw can't post complete link. The below works tho.
images.esellerpro.com/2209/I/334/07/Samsung%20Galaxy%20S%202%20Black%20Leather%20Pouch%20Open.jpg
I hate any other cases. Screen protector will be fitted of course.
Just found these. I am about to order one right now...
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_10000000_11001331&products_id=33857
zenbbqmaster said:
Just found these. I am about to order one right now...
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_10000000_11001331&products_id=33857
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I'm considering this one as well. Please post your thoughts when you receive it.

Replacement for S3 back case

Hello everyone,
I have a galaxy s3 obviously and i find the back case a little slippery for my hands.
I've been searching on the internet for a replacement for the back case preferably made by rubber although any kind of material who gives me more grip would be nice.
I don't want a housing for my phone as i want it to be very slim i just want to replace the factory case with a custom after market one.
I found this so far but unfortunately it won't ship to Europe : http://the-gadgeteer.com/2012/09/30...-texture-samsung-galaxy-s3-back-cover-review/
so i kindly ask everyone who can guide me for something similar or other solution.
thanks in advance.
I just bought this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380472341653?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
ReggieTee said:
I just bought this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380472341653?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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I have one similar to that. I love it.

Has anyone bought cases by Rock?

Hey guys!
I came across a few TPU cases by Rock.. Flip and back-only. Anyone heard of or used them? Couldn't find any reviews for the case.. I'm not sure about the TPU quality and transparency of the back (for the flip one). Check them out, heres the link:
Flip: http://www.rockphone.cn/en/Html/Product/507.html#next
Back only: http://www.rockphone.cn/en/Html/Product/517.html#next
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I bought this one ( search ROCK big city Brand New Leather Folio Case Cover Pouch For HTC One M7
in ebay) in navy, turned out to be a bit too shiny/shimmery for me. If your interested I can sell it to you from UK, unused with retail packaging.
raghav2511 said:
Hey guys!
I came across a few TPU cases by Rock.. Flip and back-only. Anyone heard of or used them? Couldn't find any reviews for the case.. I'm not sure about the TPU quality and transparency of the back (for the flip one). Check them out, heres the link:
Flip: http://www.rockphone.cn/en/Html/Product/507.html#next
Back only: http://www.rockphone.cn/en/Html/Product/517.html#next
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I think this one is the best looking one ive seen so far. Might have to place an order for an orange one
i purches both of them, i loved the rock cases on my hox and my S3.
the back only cover arrieved yesterday. great looking, good feeling and perfect match. just a few rather sharp edges, which i removed with my nails.
i got a grey cover for my silver one, looks really great.
i am waiting for the black flip cover . it did not arrieved so far
GlobeUK said:
I bought this one ( search ROCK big city Brand New Leather Folio Case Cover Pouch For HTC One M7
in ebay) in navy, turned out to be a bit too shiny/shimmery for me. If your interested I can sell it to you from UK, unused with retail packaging.
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Thanks for your offer, but I'm thinking about the yellow one. Haven't really decided about it yet.
phewBAR said:
I think this one is the best looking one ive seen so far. Might have to place an order for an orange one
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If you do get one, please post a quick review and let others know how the cases actually feel!
Havoc2k said:
i purches both of them, i loved the rock cases on my hox and my S3.
the back only cover arrieved yesterday. great looking, good feeling and perfect match. just a few rather sharp edges, which i removed with my nails.
i got a grey cover for my silver one, looks really great.
i am waiting for the black flip cover . it did not arrieved so far
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Good to know! Two questions for you -
1. Is the TPU flexible? If so, is it like completely flexible or just a little?
2. Is the case too shiny? Like candy colours (think: Nokia Lumia)?
raghav2511 said:
If you do get one, please post a quick review and let others know how the cases actually feel!
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Yep, just placed an order for Orange flip. I'll let you guys know
raghav2511 said:
Good to know! Two questions for you -
1. Is the TPU flexible? If so, is it like completely flexible or just a little?
2. Is the case too shiny? Like candy colours (think: Nokia Lumia)?
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1. its rather hard, looks not like TPU, hard plastic would i say, but still flex enoth to fit it
2. the grey one is not that shiny, matt i would say
I ordered the black one, and it just arrived today. Bit of a shame I don't have a phone to put in it, because it looks great. It is glossy, but not overboard. Maybe similar to the gloss on the original PS3? But don't quote me on that, I only owned the slim.
My One should arrive tomorrow. Once it does, I'll post up some pictures so you guys can check it out.
As far as Rock cases go though, I had one for my One X and I really liked it. I would def recommend you guys check them out. Or also Capdase. I just got a white case from them today as well. Both very nice. One is glossy, one is matte.
Thanks! Looking forward to the pics
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Do you order straight from their website ? I had their case for my s3 and loved it but then a whole ton of knockoffs started coming out.
So my phone arrived, and I had it in the Rock case within about 5 minutes. I'm in Korea for the day, so I'm trying it out. So far: really like it. The case fits like a glove. Doesn't snap on really tight like some, but there is absolutely no movement. I actually prefer this to the ones that make you think you are going to break your phone putting on/taking it off. The black on black looks so good! It's super thin, so the phone shape is maintained. It also has a very slight lip around the edges on the front so you can put it down on it's face, if you want.
The negatives: the black is a fingerprint magnet. I guess that's why they bundled a cloth in the package. The other is I am afraid I'm gonna drop my phone and it will break. I attribute the fear to having just got the phone, as well as being pretty hungover . If I were to drop the phone, the case wouldn't do much to protect it. It's more like a scratch guard.
Anyway, so far I really like it. I bet the coloured ones on the black would look ridiculous good. I'll add pictures when I get some time.
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I have Rock "Quicksand" case with the Xperia S.
Dropped it from around waist level to the hard ground. No scratch.
So.. when I got One, I quickly try to find a Quicksand series but they don't seem to made it yet.
pepporony said:
I have Rock "Quicksand" case with the Xperia S.
Dropped it from around waist level to the hard ground. No scratch.
So.. when I got One, I quickly try to find a Quicksand series but they don't seem to made it yet.
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Search on amazon for the bear motion case. I had the quicksand for my s3 and this bear motion feels just like that.
azelaya said:
Search on amazon for the bear motion case. I had the quicksand for my s3 and this bear motion feels just like that.
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Thanks, I already ordered something similar from ebay (not bear motion). I believe they came from the same wholesale retailer and slap different brand on it...

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