As well as being an avid android user, I have been flying electric RC planes for years.
I have seen very expensive (not made in China) lipo batteries of 2200 mah explode
or create a long flash fire. I would like to ask some of the gurus on this forum what
their thoughts on the safety of the Zerolemon 7000mah battery. I recently received it,
and love the long life and even the size (but not weight) of my GS3 now. I am quite
concerned that the battery is basically 3 regular batteries slapped together in China.
I know enough about lipo batteries that a dropped battery, a battery left in the car, sun,
or hot pocket, or even just an old battery can spontaneously combust. I would have
felt much better if it was actually one battery, but since it is 3 ran together in series,
even if one is faulty or shorts, it will set up an instant fire bomb. From what I have
seen with my RC batteries, you would be severly injured if the phone was on the desk
by you or charging, and if it was in your pocket you would surely be killed or permanantly
injured and disfigured. I don't want to sound like an alarmist, but my vast experience
with lipo batteries has taught me to be very cautious, even storing the large ones.
Every once in a while you will see or hear of an iphone or android phone blow up, and
luckily they were on the passengers car seat or a picnic table, but even with a 2100 mah
battery the damage is devastating. Any serious comments or discussion of this safety
issue would be appreciated.
Frightened me half to death
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Think I'm about to take this battery out now. Lol.
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Send it to me Maurr. I'll hold on to it for you.
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There are tons of them spontaneously bursting into flames. Just Google it, tons and tons of threads made every day to. They narrowed down the fires last summer in Australia to be caused by one last year.
With that being said I'll take yours from you if you don't want it. Oh and all other batteries you own since they all pose the same risk.
I am pretty certain they are run in parallel, and with built in charging circuits I think they are just as safe or dangerous as any other after market battery. I have flown my brushless lipo E-Stater for years and even shorted one of the batteries (only for a few seconds), it swelled but never spontaneously conbusted. My RC boat is lipo too and no probs there, nor with either is my Cox foamies.
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Thanks for a sensible reply. And I spoke to an engineer friend and he said they were run in parallel, he said in the rare event one ignites in your pocket you are just as screwed with one than with three. I kind of disagree since setting off 3 2100mah firebombs in your pocket would certainly do more damage than setting off one 2100mah, and the Zerolemon is just 3 2100mah batteries slapped together in parallel, and if one goes off they all do, chain reaction.
My friend has also been flying RC for 30 years and last week was his first lipo fire. We both have had many puffed batteries,
but he was flying a new Parkzone Corsair and it just burst into flames and smoke mid air. He had a very expensive but old
battery in it, but Parkzone is sending him all replacement parts for free, so I suspect they know they had a bad ESC in a
batch of them. Then again it could have just been that old battery, we will never know.
My thought process is this. That rc is using the battery at a much faster rate than the phone. So I think most regular use discharge explosions are flukes. Maybe 15 phones blow up a year but how many phones are being used every day. It's pretty simple; If your phone starts getting extremely hot, take the battery out and let it cool off, don't keep your phone in direct sunlight, and always be mindful of your phone's temperature even in your pocket. As far as explosions while charging always make sure you're using a compatible adapter with the correct voltage and use your phone as little as possible.
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Yes the RC does use the battery at a far faster rate, but they are designed for that.
RC batteries and Cell Phones are both dropped all the time, cell phones much more.
This dropping can damage, vibrate, or short the battery and even if not first apparent,
this damaged battery can combust right away or later after more wear. That is what
I am concerned about. The zerolemon is 3 batteries packed together, and heavy, when
you drop your GS3 the battery is the whole back and takes all the damage (unless
dropped on the glass facing). The standard battery is embedded in the phone and is
therefore protected from drops.
hotstocks said:
As well as being an avid android user, I have been flying electric RC planes for years.
I have seen very expensive (not made in China) lipo batteries of 2200 mah explode
or create a long flash fire. I would like to ask some of the gurus on this forum what
their thoughts on the safety of the Zerolemon 7000mah battery. I recently received it,
and love the long life and even the size (but not weight) of my GS3 now. I am quite
concerned that the battery is basically 3 regular batteries slapped together in China.
I know enough about lipo batteries that a dropped battery, a battery left in the car, sun,
or hot pocket, or even just an old battery can spontaneously combust. I would have
felt much better if it was actually one battery, but since it is 3 ran together in series,
even if one is faulty or shorts, it will set up an instant fire bomb. From what I have
seen with my RC batteries, you would be severly injured if the phone was on the desk
by you or charging, and if it was in your pocket you would surely be killed or permanantly
injured and disfigured. I don't want to sound like an alarmist, but my vast experience
with lipo batteries has taught me to be very cautious, even storing the large ones.
Every once in a while you will see or hear of an iphone or android phone blow up, and
luckily they were on the passengers car seat or a picnic table, but even with a 2100 mah
battery the damage is devastating. Any serious comments or discussion of this safety
issue would be appreciated.
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There is the possibility of ANY battery exploding. First of lets get the terms correct. Per an E-Mail from ZeroLemon the batteries are not Lithium polymer (lipo) they are Lithium Ion. They do have the built in circuits to prevent overcharging and to regulate the charge going in. Now a Phone does not get the abuse that a RC Car gets. The Phone is not charged as fast as the battery for an RC Car. When it come to the 2 RC Car or Phone, Apples and Oranges. I don't see it being a problem.
GTWalling said:
There is the possibility of ANY battery exploding. First of lets get the terms correct. Per an E-Mail from ZeroLemon the batteries are not Lithium polymer (lipo) they are Lithium Ion. They do have the built in circuits to prevent overcharging and to regulate the charge going in. Now a Phone does not get the abuse that a RC Car gets. The Phone is not charged as fast as the battery for an RC Car. When it come to the 2 RC Car or Phone, Apples and Oranges. I don't see it being a problem.
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I am talking about RC airplanes that do not get any abuse (unless crashed and you throw it away), not RC cars.
Cell phones are dropped all the time.
This dropping can damage, vibrate, or short the battery and even if not first apparent,
this damaged battery can combust right away or later after more wear. That is what
I am concerned about. The zerolemon is 3 batteries packed together, and heavy, when
you drop your GS3 the battery is the whole back and takes all the damage (unless
dropped on the glass facing). The standard battery is embedded in the phone and is
therefore protected from drops.
All batteries will always be at risk to explode. That being said the chances of your phone exploding and seriously injuring or killing you is probably lower than you getting hit by lightening so, you can live in fear or take your very good chances.
If this has scared anyone away from using their battery I'd be more than willing to buy it from you.
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The great question:
Is it better to 1) carry extra batteries with me and just trade them out as they die but maintain the light, sleek form factor of my EVO, 2) get an extended battery that will make my phone thicker and significantly heavier (resulting in fewer case choices or cradle fit issues) or 3) get an external travel battery that plugs into my phone via USB and recharges my battery with another battery?
Well each has it's pluses and minuses:
1) Extra Batteries: The problem is, of course, transporting them. You also need to buy an external charging dock to keep them juiced and the phone has to be taken apart to replace them. With some cases such as the Otter Defender, this can be a significant hassle. As far as transporting them, it is easy to buy an unobtrusive $10 leather zippered pouch and carry them that way.
2) Extended Batteries: Easily charged in your phone and not requiring replacement during a long day, these batteries are an attractive option. However, say goodbye to your sleek and slim EVO. These add significant heft to your device and make it twice as thick. Also, unless you pay top dollar for a name brand, you risk having a "fake" product of questionable build and even more questionable capacity. Watch a video of a "Lion" battery fire and you will realize you don't want to play with cheap knockoffs any more than you would buy knockoff medicine from a guy in China to save a few bucks. And oh yeah, good luck finding a case that fits your "pregnant" evo.
3) Portable Battery Chargers: Again, these can be an attractive solution. They can come in many sizes (up to 8000 mah) and can recharge your phone even as you use it. The issue is bulk. One 5400 mah device is about the size of your EVO. So, imagine carrying 2 EVO's with you (never mind the USB cord). Compare this to carrying a spare 1500 mah battery in a small leather pouch (which you would hardly notice is even there). Also, these charge your phone using USB cable. This means a maximum charging rate of 500 ma. If you are using your phone for power intensive tasks such as Google Navigation, your phone will still run out of power even if it is plugged in.
CONCLUSION:
Weighing all of the factors, I recommend getting a couple extra 1500 to 1750 mah OEM batteries along with a wall charger (don't be cheap - these things can go boom). Simply carry them in a small zippered leather pouch you can pick up anywhere they sell wallets. A fully charged battery in your phone and just one of these "stand-bys" should get you through even the most grueling day.
The only hassle here is physically switching them out; however, that is less of a hassle than dealing with a "double-thick EVO" extended battery or an "extra EVO in your pocket" external travel battery. You should only have to change the battery out once in a 24 hour period. With the other solutions, you have to deal with their negative aspects 24/7.
You keep your slim form factor, you not are limited by case choices and you extend your power - win.
** This conclusion assumes the user will eventually have access to AC power to recharge sometime in a 24 hour period. For camping, etc, where you will be away from wall/car juice for extended period, the external travel battery may be your best choice (and you can carry it in your backpack).
It looks dumb and feels kind of bulky, but there is no way I'm turning off my phone, taking off the case, and prying off that flimsy batter door all of the time. I hate that process and feel like something is breaking every time. Big pregnant evo for me.
I still have to laugh when people talk about the added "bulk" extended batteries like the Seidio adds to the phone . Most of the time people who see my phone and realize I have an extended battery usually respond with "Well thats not that much bigger" . Im not shooting down your opinion I just feel this obsession with have a super thin phone is a bit overboard . Hell I remember years ago when phones were on the trend of being super small , hell I remember seeing one model that when it folded up I swore the damn thing was just alittle bitter than a book of matches . Now the trend seems to be bigger phones or atleast leaning in that direction (examples : HTC EVO , DROID X , Epic 4G isnt small either) . Overall like the OP outlined it comes down to a choice , longevity using all the features of the phone (bigger batter) or slim phone with "enough" power to make it through the day if you micro manage all the features on the phone . Ive tried both worlds , Ive tried the stock battery which did make it through the day but just barely . I currently have the 3500mah battery installed and I can tell you this now I wouldnt go back to the stock battery . The added size now fits the size of the phone in my mind . The phone is already tall and wide , Hell the Droid X is even taller and wider (actutal casing of the phone not the screen) . In the end its your choice and its your phone , whatever makes you happy with it you go with it . Screw what everyone else might say about it LOL
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It looks dumb and feels kind of bulky, but there is no way I'm turning off my phone, taking off the case, and prying off that flimsy batter door all of the time. I hate that process and feel like something is breaking every time. Big pregnant evo for me.
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As a business man who wears a suit every day, my biggest issue is that there is no way to carry my phone (other than a belt clip which is way too geeky for me) in my suit pocket or pants without looking like I have either breast implants or an erection.
Actually, you have your "pregnant" EVO "all the time". You only have to change your battery once Still, everyone has their preference and that's why I created the thread.
** Being a flash-a-holic, I have become quite accustomed to pulling my battery (boot loops and all) so I am probably less intimidated by the process than the average user. For me, changing a battery out takes maybe 10 seconds at the most. When compared to carrying around a thicker, heavier phone all day, the choice is clear (10 seconds of hassle vs 24/7 discomfort).
Again, no "right" answer here.
I use spare batteries. I have an extended but I hate the way it makes my phone look and feel. I keep a couple charged spares in the car at all times and another couple in my computer bag just in case. I would much rather do that then have an ugly block sticking out the back of my phone. My phone lasts well over a day on a charge so I never really end up swapping them out except for in the morning when I put a fresh one in. I usually still have about 50% left when I swap them out in the morning. I never charge my phone directly, I always just swap the battery with a fresh one and charge them with my wall charger. It only takes a minute to swap them and the daily reboot never hurts. I bought all my batteries on ebay (except for my seidio extended which NEVER gets used) and all eight of them cost me about $50 combined, which is cheaper than the one seidio.
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I use spare batteries. I have an extended but I hate the way it makes my phone look and feel. I keep a couple charged spares in the car at all times and another couple in my computer bag just in case. I would much rather do that then have an ugly block sticking out the back of my phone. My phone lasts well over a day on a charge so I never really end up swapping them out except for in the morning when I put a fresh one in. I usually still have about 50% left when I swap them out in the morning. I never charge my phone directly, I always just swap the battery with a fresh one and charge them with my wall charger. It only takes a minute to swap them and the daily reboot never hurts. I bought all my batteries on ebay (except for my seidio extended which NEVER gets used) and all eight of them cost me about $50 combined, which is cheaper than the one seidio.
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+1 My reasoning exactly.
This is purely theory, but I have the feeling that younger users and those in manual labor type jobs will opt for the extended battery, whereas those of us where we have to wear a suit to work and sit at a desk or visit clients all day would prefer the swap-out just for appearance sake. A construction foreman is not going to want to swap out a battery with dirty hands in 30 degree cold but he(she) won't mind how the fatter phone looks.
In conclusion, those more concerned with the look and feel of the phone will opt for extra oem's, those who are looking for pure utility will opt for extended.
I've had my EVO for almost a full month, and yet its still caseless and exposed because of this dilemma. I'm leaning more towards keeping it slim and having a wide variety of cases to choose from. Obviously going to something like the 3500 would require a new battery door. So, what's the maximum battery size the EVO can hold before needing the new door? I've seen 1600, 1700, 1750, 1800, and 2000 mah batteries. Also, would these slightly stronger batteries make ANY difference? I've seen reports saying those batteries are tested and not actually as strong as they say.
Thanks in advance....
AGSLight
ROOT YOUR PHONE. solves all the troubles of extra batterys. I have 4 batterys i bought before rooting. Now they just sit in different areas around the house and car because i never use them. Easily 18hours of battery with decent amount of use.
Well, I super use my phone;all day pounding.....even the Sprint extended barely makes it about 18hrs.....so I prefer the constant functionality...!
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I'm curious if anyone is solving the battery life problem by using multiple batteries and swapping them during the day. My specific question is about the durability of the battery door. I'm concerned that the design is such that daily removal and reattachment could cause wear and make the door loose over time.
Anyone have any experience one way or the other?
i have 6 batteries i used to use before going extended. yes, after awhile the door would get small dings at the top where you pry it off. it eventually started to feel a bit loose and came off easier. that and with the swap hassle im glad i dont bother anymore.
of course it will get loose, but replacement ones are 10$ or free if you know who to talk to at the stores that have techs to fix the phones on site
I ordered 2 extra batteries and a wall charger launch day of the TB. It is now Sept. and my battery door has had no problems. I have dropped down to two batteries in circulation now due to the radio updates that have improved battery significantly. I am actually able to make it through the day now. But no matter what phone I get next I will order an extra battery I don't like having to worry about having to plug the phone in at all so it is a must have for me.
on a side note, if you guys get an external power pack, you wont need extra batteries. i have an Energizer 5200mAh one thats about the same size as my TB(only thinner) and it has 2 usb ports to charge 2 devices at the same time.
although even then, i still got the 2750mAh battery and plan to get the 4500mAh battery as i still blow through batteries very quickly.
Was considering buying this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_712wt_908
Its 3600 mAH battery for Galaxy S 2. Anyone have any experiences with these?
I need case & battery. What about these?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Sam...Accessories&hash=item4ab19a4066#ht_500wt_1029
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950mAh-OEM...ccessories&hash=item415f95bece#ht_2538wt_1018
Thanks
i bought the 3500 one and its from china, it wont be deliver till Christmas time frame -_-"
careful with different batteries and battery cases since there are people who've had their device "blow up" !
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careful with different batteries and battery cases since there are people who've had their device "blow up" !
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i say those people are dumb! if u feel like your phone is getting hotter, then maybe you should turn it off and investigate!
Why can't there just be one huge thread about eBay batteries and say its fake!
As someone who has worked in that field for a long time I can tell you that most of the products are not worthwhile. The battery ratings are not even good faith estimates. They just stick whatever they want on there.
Many of these aftermarket batteries cause hot reboot problems, shut down problems, and other voltage instability related problems leading to hardware shorts or inoperable temperatures.
It's just not worthwhile. Especially considering a $500+ phone.
If you want to get a backup battery, I say get another OEM one for a spare.
Otherwise, find a reputable 3rd party US-based online retailer that you can physically hold accountable if anything happens.
It wasn't long ago that I field tested one of the rechargeable 2-way transponders for a big name auto-security company (I won't name names), and their battery that was bench tested and calculated still turned out to be defective. Upon recharge and initial use, it would expand to the point of explosion. It popped right out of the transponder while melting onto the circuit board. you could tell that another 5 seconds plugged in would have been lethal.
Just sayin' it's not worth the risk. Damage to goods is one thing.
But if the battery actually does explode, the personal injury will be gruesome.
Anyway. Good luck in whatever you decide.
This just lead me away from ever buying an overseas extended battery. Thank you.
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As someone who has worked in that field for a long time I can tell you that most of the products are not worthwhile. The battery ratings are not even good faith estimates. They just stick whatever they want on there.
Many of these aftermarket batteries cause hot reboot problems, shut down problems, and other voltage instability related problems leading to hardware shorts or inoperable temperatures.
It's just not worthwhile. Especially considering a $500+ phone.
If you want to get a backup battery, I say get another OEM one for a spare.
Otherwise, find a reputable 3rd party US-based online retailer that you can physically hold accountable if anything happens.
It wasn't long ago that I field tested one of the rechargeable 2-way transponders for a big name auto-security company (I won't name names), and their battery that was bench tested and calculated still turned out to be defective. Upon recharge and initial use, it would expand to the point of explosion. It popped right out of the transponder while melting onto the circuit board. you could tell that another 5 seconds plugged in would have been lethal.
Just sayin' it's not worth the risk. Damage to goods is one thing.
But if the battery actually does explode, the personal injury will be gruesome.
Anyway. Good luck in whatever you decide.
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(Personal opinion here, of course.)
I don't care about battery life. The battery on the Galaxy Nexus is removable. When my phone is dead, I swap out my battery for another one. Two batteries gets me through ANY day, regardless of usage patterns. Batteries are small and fit in men's and women's pockets easily. They fit in glove boxes, desk drawers, etc. They're portable, lightweight, compact, etc. You can take them almost anywhere.
I purchased the Samsung battery charger kit and haven't looked back. Instead of charging my phone and feeling tethered to my charger all day, I use my phone however I want and swap batteries in/out as I need to, and I only charge my phone overnight while sleeping now. The rest of the time, I only charge my batteries through the charging kit.
All these threads on battery calibration, battery life, etc. just seem unwarranted to me. I'm used to toting a charger around with me, so now I just bring my battery kit (usually it sits in my car, not needed) and if my battery dies, I swap in a fresh one and charge the spare with the kit. This way, I can have my phone on me all the time without worry. If I have no nearby electric outlet I can still take along the extra battery and charge both batteries later. I actually have 3 batteries, if I need them (I can't imagine ever using all 3 in a day).
I don't even use the extended battery. Why fatten up my phone, even if only by a little, if I don't need to do so?
This is food for thought, that's all. Does anyone else just use spare batteries and no longer worry (or even obsess, as I used to do with my Thunderbolt) over squeezing out every drop of battery life? To me, life is easier and better this way.
There's a name for the feeling of not being tethered to your charger all day. I call it freedom. It's awesome.
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I see where you are coming from.. What do you think of the battery cover? Is it difficult to work with when swapping batteries and will it last with such frequent use? How do you make sure that your spare battery is always ready (I guess you must be in the habit of always putting it on a charger)?
The battery cover is easy to remove. I ordered two spares when I ordered my battery kit (door covers are only $3 each) in case they wear out over time, which I doubt will happen. Many days I don't even swap batteries, as my phone typically lasts 10-12 hours on the regular battery anyway. I do charge my phone in the car (why not? my phone would just sit there otherwise) which is ~30-45 minutes a day, enough for an extra 20% charge mid-day which helps my battery hit the 10+ hour mark. And if it doesn't, I just swap for a new battery.
The spare is always ready because I always keep it in the charger kit so I can grab it when I'm in need. The kit has a light which turns green when the spare battery is charged to 100%. The light is red otherwise. It's quite handy.
At night I plug in both my phone and the charger kit using the Y cable charger that comes with the kit (allows 2 devices to charge simultaneously on one charger). In the morning, I have my phone and spare, both ready to go.
May I also say, I've impressed a few of my iPhone-using friends with my spare charger kit. They always say "I wish I could do that, but I don't have a removable battery." I lol every time (silently to myself...)
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I completely agree. That and who is really not near a charger ever all day? Maybe a few but hey that's what changeable batteries is for.
I see nothing wrong with improving what we have with calibration and optimization though...
Lol sounds like you are super jaded from using a thunderbolt.
IMHO your logic is flawed. Why not get good battery life on one or two batteries rather than mediocre battery life on two batteries.
You shouldn't have to carry around two batts just to get usability out of our device. Two batteries is for when you demand extra from your device.
Like when I went to New York I carried two batteries for my BB9700. Not because it was a battery hog but because I was GPSing and texting all day and didn't want to be stranded with a dead battery. I ended up using both batteries several times skipping charging both of them one night.
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edit: I get great battery life on this phone btw. I love it and am very happy with its performance.
I do the same thing. Have the extra battery with wall charger and just throw the spare in my pocket if I go anywhere. Like the OP stated I would much rather swap out the battery (if/when needed) and be able to use my phone like I want than worry about trying to conserve it all day.
I haven't had any problems with the battery cover and even if it did I can buy a new one from VZW for $3.25 with my discount ($4.99 retail) so it is a nonissue.
I honestly don't know why so few people do this. And I very rarely even end up using the spare battery, I just like knowing I have it if needed.
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Lithoss said:
I completely agree. That and who is really not near a charger ever all day? Maybe a few but hey that's what changeable batteries is for.
I see nothing wrong with improving what we have with calibration and optimization though...
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Agreed. I read that stuff to be informed, but no longer out of a crazy desire to extend my battery life because I can't live without doing otherwise. It's a nice change.
Again, I'm not saying anyone else has to or should do this. But it makes so much sense to me, and I like to share what works for me to help others who are looking for other options regarding battery life.
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Lol sounds like you are super jaded from using a thunderbolt.
IMHO your logic is flawed. Why not get good battery life on one or two batteries rather than mediocre battery life on two batteries.
You shouldn't have to carry around two batts just to get usability out of our device. Two batteries is for when you demand extra from your device.
Like when I went to New York I carried two batteries for my BB9700. Not because it was a battery hog but because I was GPSing and texting all day and didn't want to be stranded with a dead battery. I ended up using both batteries several times skipping charging both of them one night.
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edit: I get great battery life on this phone btw. I love it and am very happy with its performance.
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I'm a realistic type of guy. What I want from my phone and what I get from my phone are two different things. To believe they are the same is literally delusional, by definition. To complain about X Y or Z company not providing me with what I want is also a bit irrational if I know that, given today's technology's limitations, what I want might be asking a bit too much. We must work with what we have. I have spare batteries. I use them, liberally if I need to, and I don't mind doing so.
I don't expect a 4G phone to last all day while I play WWF, browse the web, text constantly, check and compose emails, take photos, transfer data, and make phone calls. To get 3-4 hours of screen on time on one battery is great (to me).
I think carrying an extra battery is being more responsible on my end for my own admitted usage of the phone, rather than complaining that the battery life "sucks" or hacking my phone to get an extra 20% battery life (although I'm not against this at all - it's just more work overall). Instead of blaming Verizon, Google, and/or Samsung, I'm taking ownership of the fact that I use my phone quite a lot, and I'm fine with carrying an extra battery or two. Instead of blaming others for the battery life of my own phone, I take responsibility for it and I provide my own solution. If anything, I'm speaking of personal responsibility. And in said responsibility I've found freedom from the dreaded phone charger. Again, it's a nice freedom to have.
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I agree completely with the OP. A second OEM battery and quality wall dock charger are my second accessory purchase with any of my smart phones. The first being a good case.
Having a 2nd or 3rd (or 4th!) battery and/or a charger around shouldn't be a requirement for using your device throughout the day. Sure if you use your phone hard then you're going to be used to having a charger nearby, but it shouldn't be a req if you're a normal user.
I don't think its unreasonable to expect a normal (12 hours) days use out of a device. FWIW most people are getting that (especially GSM users), and I don't think the battery issues are as widespread as people seem to think. There are "omg batterylife" threads in every new device forum.
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I don't think its unreasonable to expect a normal (12 hours) days use out of a device. FWIW most people are getting that (especially GSM users)
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For sure, I'm happy with this phones battery life (WAY better than the EVO 3D) but I like having the extra charged battery on hand for when I'm traveling.
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I completely agree. That and who is really not near a charger ever all day? Maybe a few but hey that's what changeable batteries is for.
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I often go a full day without seeing a charger. Sure I could carry one around and hunt for outlets throughout the day, but I don't think that should be a concern. Just want the phone to be reliable.
For what it's worth, I bought an external charger a couple phones back. Just plug in via USB to the phone if it's running low. Really useful when I'm on the train, for example, and I tether wifi for my Xoom. Gets me through the day in a pinch and I don't have to buy a new one with every phone (though I might buy a larger one now given the Galaxy Nexus' bigger battery).
Also, I usually plug the phone in while at my desk and always charge overnight. But I use the hell out of my phone
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I have to agree with Martonikaj I'm afraid. Its a phone, just because you CAN swap out the batteries doesn't mean you should HAVE to to get reasonable usage life.
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I disagree with the OP for having 2nd, 3rd batteries in order to use it properly based on user usage pattern.
First, define your usage pattern then try to optimize the battery to support that.
My usage pattern requires to have at least 3 and a half our screen time, and charge the phone once every two days, before I went to sleep (or during the night).
And this phone battery can do that without any problem ...
So, I don't need second battery ... and I am ordering the 2000mAH extended battery for GSM model. Having extra 250mAH is nice, it's a bonus for additional 30 minutes screen time! ... while still having the same look and thin device profile
Hey guys can someone recommend a good place to buy a second battery and charger if needed? Is it worth getting the extended battery and do I need to buy a different back cover if I purchase one? I am in Australia so was thinking eBay might be my best bet? Cheers
I do the same as the OP. I have three batteries that I rotate through. The OEM Samsung battery that came with the phone and two 1900mah batteries that I bought from eBay (which aren't too bad by the way) . I don't ever have to plug in my phone anymore because most of the time I have two fully charged batteries ready to go. I get on average between 12-15 hours on a single charge as it is with pretty good use, so I'm not worried about my phone dying, its just more convenient.
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Joshaldo said:
Hey guys can someone recommend a good place to buy a second battery and charger if needed? Is it worth getting the extended battery and do I need to buy a different back cover if I purchase one? I am in Australia so was thinking eBay might be my best bet? Cheers
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What about if there is going to be an official larger battery for it?
Just bought two off of eBay for $11, bargain. Hopefully they will do the job. Can keep one in the car and one at work, I should never run out of battery
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What about if there is going to be an official larger battery for it?
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I am pretty sure i saw an official Samsung extended battery 3000mah with battery door cover on eBay for the GSM version . I think it was around $35-$40.
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How many people use their phone so much in 1 day that actually need an extended battery for the Note 2?
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There were days I wanted one for my original Note. But the Note 2 has held up well. Even my days of heaviest use it's made it through so far with 10% to spare.
I'm not sure I'd want to carry a massive battery for this thing. But if someone came up with a back and battery that addded 500mah and was only say 2mm thicker overall and really didn't change the fit and style I'd probably go for it.
I always wuss out if I get down to 30% and end up recharging. That might be 1 or 2 days a week. Usually hours of gaming is about the only thing that'll kill my battery in a day. But, I really couldnt see the need for an extended battery on this device for everyday use.
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Before owning this fantastic phone I started to worry when the battery indicator showed 25-30% charge. Now I smile knowing that I have at least 5 hours heavy use or about 12 hours standby remaining. If you want it to last even longer but still get email updates and social media updates get Easy Data Pro from the market. Its very good. Apart from the ugly widget that is.
It's easy to kill the battery when at a theme park, vacation, etc.. because you're not sitting next to a charger all day. Many suggest an extra battery but if you're on an extended phone call or in the middle of movie/game how do you change the battery without turning the phone off?
I don't really think being at an amusement park has anything to do with it. We're going 24 hours between charges, why would proximity to an ac adapter change things?
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I don't really think being at an amusement park has anything to do with it. We're going 24 hours between charges, why would proximity to an ac adapter change things?
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Sorry, guess you stare at the ground while your in line or waiting for anything. I haven't seen anyone get 24 hours screen on time but if I'm waiting most of the day somewhere than my screen is gonna be on. If you're next to an AC adapter than you can easily charge your phone right?
The last time I was at Universal Studios we got the express pass. Zero wait, and we completed the entire Harry Potter experience by 930 am. Had very little phone use the entire day, as we got to enjoy the entire park three times over.
Seperately, not a single person has ever said they have reached 24 hours of screen time. I regularly get 6+ hours tho. What we are getting is 24+ hours between charges.
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Also, I would recommend an external battery. I personally use a new trent 5500mAh version. That way I can recharge the phone while on a call if ac power isnt available.
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It's easy to kill the battery when at a theme park, vacation, etc.. because you're not sitting next to a charger all day. Many suggest an extra battery but if you're on an extended phone call or in the middle of movie/game how do you change the battery without turning the phone off?
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Sorry, guess you stare at the ground while your in line or waiting for anything. I haven't seen anyone get 24 hours screen on time but if I'm waiting most of the day somewhere than my screen is gonna be on. If you're next to an AC adapter than you can easily charge your phone right?
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I have never been at an amusement park for 24 hours straight.
If you are on your phone 24 hours a day while on vacation, you're doing it wrong
Btw, I got almost 7 1/2 hours screen on time with 25% left... that's more than enough for me. My screenshots are in the thread for battery life.
That being said, I would rather have an extra regular battery and keep the phone thin, than have a thick phone and try to find a good looking case for it.
I'm actually curious about the extended side project for my classic romo. I want to run my romo and my gs2 on one of the 6500mah batteries for the note two. I hope they aren't crap, I'll probably get one after I get paid on the first, but won't be able to actually have anything to compare it to. I may drop it in my note just to see if it works with the bumper actually, but I have never needed to worry about battery charge. I have gone out on off nights with less than 30% battery life and been home hours later before getting a low battery warning.
I'm new to the Note II, actually it's in the mail. I'm a heavy extended battery user on every device I usually own. As the note II is new, I spent a few days looking at power.
My guess is in most cases it should last at least all day even with heavy use. None of us are usually very far from our chargers or spare batteries.
What I did do, is order this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/390499613512?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 I'll try this one as a primary and keep the stock battery as a backup.
If it's really 3960 or 3100 who knows, but if it is 3960 then it should be more than enough for a full day of about anything.
I also looked at extended batteries requiring new backs. The thinnest one I could find, was 3-4mm at 6500 mah.
http://www.wirelessground.com/samsu...gclid=CKTgstTI5LMCFQY5nAodnRkAtQ#.UK9CTIbp5yN
It took a lot of reading on all this, got the Motorola 2 amp car charger and so on, but power was an issue I looked at close for the note II.
Power doesn't seem to be issue from everything I have read, but it makes sense to know what power options are out there and if you need a backup battery anyway, get one with 860 more Mah. if you can.
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I'm new to the Note II, actually it's in the mail. I'm a heavy extended battery user on every device I usually own. As the note II is new, I spent a few days looking at power.
My guess is in most cases it should last at least all day even with heavy use. None of us are usually very far from our chargers or spare batteries.
What I did do, is order this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/390499613512?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 I'll try this one as a primary and keep the stock battery as a backup.
If it's really 3960 or 3100 who knows, but if it is 3960 then it should be more than enough for a full day of about anything.
I also looked at extended batteries requiring new backs. The thinnest one I could find, was 3-4mm at 6500 mah.
http://www.wirelessground.com/samsu...gclid=CKTgstTI5LMCFQY5nAodnRkAtQ#.UK9CTIbp5yN
It took a lot of reading on all this, got the Motorola 2 amp car charger and so on, but power was an issue I looked at close for the note II.
Power doesn't seem to be issue from everything I have read, but it makes sense to know what power options are out there and if you need a backup battery anyway, get one with 860 more Mah. if you can.
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Here's what I found. Looks like you're right, it's 3100.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001123
How they get away with this is crazy, but at least people are catching it sooner than later.
if you are looking for an extended battery I would be patient and wait for powerskin to announce or shoot down if they are gonna make a case for this phone. Those who don't know powerskin is exactly what it sounds like its a case with a battery built into it. They made one for the GS2(TMO) and GS3 with the wild popularity of Note2 and it being on all four carriers it should be a slam dunk. The best part is they don't add much gerth to the other phones...
I ended up getting an 8500mAh battery off of eBay from this seller:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8500mAh-Ext...-Samsung-N7100-Galaxy-Note-II-2-/170933592938
I've had it for several days now and am really happy with it. At first I was just going to use it as a backup for going on trips and such but now I think I will use it as my main battery. The back it comes with actually has a sort of faux metallic look to it and fits in really well with the phone. It doesn't look at all cheap like some of the other battery doors I looked at on the 6500 mAh ones.
I've had the phone running for nearly for days straight with some heavy use includs hours of calls and gaming until I finally needed to charge it.
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I ended up getting an 8500mAh battery off of eBay from this seller:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8500mAh-Ext...-Samsung-N7100-Galaxy-Note-II-2-/170933592938
I've had it for several days now and am really happy with it. At first I was just going to use it as a backup for going on trips and such but now I think I will use it as my main battery. The back it comes with actually has a sort of faux metallic look to it and fits in really well with the phone. It doesn't look at all cheap like some of the other battery doors I looked at on the 6500 mAh ones.
I've had the phone running for nearly for days straight with some heavy use includs hours of calls and gaming until I finally needed to charge it.
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Man, how much thicker/heavier does that make the phone? The main reason this phone isn't "too big" is because of its weight and how thin it is.
I got into the habit of using Mophie Juice packs on iPhones back in the day, and did extended batteries with large battery covers on my Nexus One and HTC Blunderbolt, but with most Androids I just pick up a spare battery and keep it in my wallet. They're thin enough to fit that way. With the newer Samsungs, a spare battery has been a waste of money; my Galaxy S3's spare is still in it's shrinkwrap months after purchase.
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Man, how much thicker/heavier does that make the phone? The main reason this phone isn't "too big" is because of its weight and how thin it is.
I got into the habit of using Mophie Juice packs on iPhones back in the day, and did extended batteries with large battery covers on my Nexus One and HTC Blunderbolt, but with most Androids I just pick up a spare battery and keep it in my wallet. They're thin enough to fit that way. With the newer Samsungs, a spare battery has been a waste of money; my Galaxy S3's spare is still in it's shrinkwrap months after purchase.
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It's probably about twice as thick in the biggest part and it is a bit heavier, but the battery door is curved and tapers over to the battery part so it's not twice as thick on the whole thing, just the battery part, but it also doesn't abruptly pop out a square, it's tapered. I think it looks decent and not boxy at all.
I was concerned myself before getting it but I don't really mind the extra bulk and weight considering how much more battery life I get out of it.
I don't think I've seen any other phone have an 8500 mAh battery and considering that I personally don't think it adds too much extra bulk. Of course that's a YMMV sort of thing.
I'll see if I can grab another phone and post a picture of it later.
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It's probably about twice as thick in the biggest part and it is a bit heavier, but the battery door is curved and tapers over to the battery part so it's not twice as thick on the whole thing, just the battery part, but it also doesn't abruptly pop out a square, it's tapered. I think it looks decent and not boxy at all.
I was concerned myself before getting it but I don't really mind the extra bulk and weight considering how much more battery life I get out of it.
I don't think I've seen any other phone have an 8500 mAh battery and considering that I personally don't think it adds too much extra bulk. Of course that's a YMMV sort of thing.
I'll see if I can grab another phone and post a picture of it later.
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I'm just curious how accurate the capacity is. I have become very dubious that these odd/no name batteries have the capacity they say they do. For almost a third of the price you can get the 6500s as well.
I honestly can't speak to the accuracy of this 8500 mAh vs the 6500 ones being sold since I haven't tested the 6500 ones. I know it sounds trivial, but I do like the look of the 8500's door vs (the pictures) of the ones for the 6500 batteries.
Anyhow, here is a picture of the 8500 battery with the door on.
I see no need for any larger batteries. The stock one gives me well over a day. But to each their own.
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I honestly can't speak to the accuracy of this 8500 mAh vs the 6500 ones being sold since I haven't tested the 6500 ones. I know it sounds trivial, but I do like the look of the 8500's door vs (the pictures) of the ones for the 6500 batteries.
Anyhow, here is a picture of the 8500 battery with the door on.
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Thanks for both of your replies. I agree, that's a fine looking case, and 8500 mAh battery is almost drool-worthy.