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Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
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Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
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I'm assuming you're taking over for them since you posted this in the Dev section? Please post up some of your work so far and the GPL information. Good luck!
If it starts with [Q], probably goes in Q&A, or ask in their respective threads.
Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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No its not it belongs in the Q&A or general section
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Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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I agree that people need to be a bit more user friendly around here, no need to get snarky. BUT this is a DEV only section and this type of question (even if it is about DEV work really doesn't belong here).
There is nothing wrong with ONE person trying to help the person but instructing them that this is not the right place for their post. That is not playing the role of a MOD, that is part of being in a community. If this type of thing wasn't a problem the MODS would not have made the 10 post requirement before you can even post here.
Honestly there hasn't been any new developments. In my mind as it stands EVO's are done. Unless Sprint/HTC release something new there is nothing left to develop. The ROMS are zipaligned, PNG Optimized, Battery scripted, etc. I have some work I could do one the graphics but ROM wise I don't see anything earth shattering on the horizon.
Damage Control i believe is dead for now (i haven't seen anything on another phone)
Fresh i believe flipz has just been busy and really his rom is working and works well and there havent been any major ground breaking updates that need to be addressed. since fresh is a non themed rom it is a little harder to constantly provide updates when there isnt much to change in the build itself.
Evio - see fresh for most of it.
A lot of the sense based roms that are updated constantly are themed roms which gives them a lot more to play with. they can tweak the look etc even when there arent any major new developmental releases. I am in no way saying this is all that is done and there is nothing wrong with it being done just explaining my belief on why some roms are updated much more often then others. With the Evo fast approaching the one year mark you will probably see much fewer major updates coming and much fewer major developments.
This is my personal opinion and is not fact. I base my opinions off what i have seen on the devs twitter streams and own sites. hopefully it provides more answers.
When all things sense die, you can always switch to aosp lol. Its updated with the latest and greatest. I prefer sense my self but as zone said; most sense roms are maxed out, there's nothing left to do to them.
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As soon as the System Dump/ROM leaks out for the Evo 3D, they will have something new to play with.
I never understood why people keep asking for updates to stable ROMs that are based on Sprint OTA releases, like Fresh and Myn's Twopointwo. I read both of those threads, and every couple pages, you get people asking about new versions or updates to complete, working, stable ROMs. What do people expect?
If you want new features like Sense 2.0 or Gingerbread, don't flash a ROM that is based on OTA updates.
i agree, i think the sense roms are at a standstill until an official 2.3/sense 2.0 build comes down the pipe from HTC/Sprint. (assuming the Evo gets sense 2.0/android 2.3)
i love calk's work, EViO is a great rom. i only switched because i fell in love with CM7
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Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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+1 .........
Its looking more and more likely that we arent going to get 2.3 on our Evo's..
I also assumed thats why we havent seen any updates.. There isnt an official 2.3 Sense Evo rom to tear apart..
hopefully there enjoying life and not by a computer every night thinking about updates. But this goes to a deeper question that i think is starting to spark up is everybody tired of there evo's already ? U can flash so many roms until u flash out but at the end of the day a evo is still a evo
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I Don't know... so far a lot of the [ROMS] that I've seen are just re-skinned versions of everything else out there, shouldn't most of those go in the Themes and Apps section as well, if we are going to try and get technical ?
I wouldn't technically call half of these ROMS true "Development" but merely Themes, which there is another section for as well. But if you want to get technical:
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It was a valid question about development. People may or may not upgrade their phones and ditch Evo's based on a developer of ROMS as well.
Don't forget Vaelpak
If like myself, one were to prefer some of the Sense elements over the AOSP versions, but also like the obvious increase in performance that comes from the AOSP's lighter weight, don't forget the latest Vaelpak.
Sense ROM-based, but with most of Sense removed. I get my preferred Sense Dialer, VVM, etc, and thanks to Fancy Widget I get a Sense-like clock with more and better functionality. 4G, HDMI, everything works.
There is no perfect ROM, of course it all comes down to preference and opinion anyway. But if anyone is looking for something unique and extremely functional, this is a very interesting option. I flashed his 3.2 about a week ago just to check it out and have not had a reason to leave it...except to flash to the GB ROMs of course!
As was said above, until official gingerbread is out (which we heard was a yes).....don't worry, there will be continued stuff as most of us got screwed with sprint changing the premium upgrades. 2.2 is maxxed out.
Cooler than your EVO
ljohnson1981 said:
Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
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LIFE gets in the way sometimes man Calk just had a new baby girl so that is WAY more important than spending all day and night on roms for people to just complain, Damageless was disrespected more than anybody i have ever seen on here sheesh if i was him i would never come back and give time, and Fresh's wife was having some health issues i believe so he had to take care of her.
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Its looking more and more likely that we arent going to get 2.3 on our Evo's..
I also assumed thats why we havent seen any updates.. There isnt an official 2.3 Sense Evo rom to tear apart..
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The EVO is getting 2.3 w/Sense, but not until it comes out on a new flagship phone (E3D). I wouldn't expect it until July or August.
Hello everyone.
Im a HTC Faithful and currently using an Evo 4g still. This phone is starting to show its age and im thinking of picking up a Epic Touch.
But looking at the dev section, it doesnt seem that there are that many roms in progress, let alone any updated ICS roms. There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on.
Im just wondering where all the ICS roms are. If i moved over, id prob want to stick to ICS.
Anyone move from Evo to Epic Touch and feel that there are enough roms? That its being supported as much as other HTC phones?
Any input?
Depends. The Stock Touchwiz Roms from samsung has plenty of development here. The AOSP side we just barely got a CM7/KANG that has quite a few bugs. For some those bugs arent a problem, but for me it didnt pass as a daily driver.
Also the whole Clockworkmod-fused-with-the-kernel/rom on this phone will give you a headache if this is your first time rooting a Samsung Phone.
It would be my first Samsung rooting. I have looked over the instructions and saw it's somewhat different from HTC style, but nothing I can't handle.
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I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
No where
I see that no one has answered your main question...There are no ICS ROMs available as of right now...The deves are creating a base for it so when its possible to create one, they can implment it faster.
Uhhh. I guess the dev's are working on them.
I'd be stoked if you can work faster than they can, or pay them to work faster...
But it's not like changing a battery, there's a lot of work that goes into cooking a ROM.
They want to get CM7 complete and stable as a base to use for other Aosp roms. Samsung's official ICS for our device will have touchwiz and I think 95% of us don't want that. We need Aosp roms and kernels nailed down before we progress any further. Once the devs have a stable functional base to work from other doors will open. It takes time.
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I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
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I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
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thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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rawdikrik said:
thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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There may not be ICS but this is still a hell of a phone. In the market oyher than the Google phone just coming out this is the top of the line. I came from an Evo and I love it
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I think its Samsung vs HTC thing
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I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
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I think its more because Samsung is not releasing the source code, once they put it out our esteemed devs will bring ICS very fast. HTC is very fast about everything giving out source, update etc. I am just waiting for HTC to come with some phone which is a little bit better in specs and I am getting that. Samsung phones just looks beatifull. I want a phone that works as good and is backed up by support from the Manufacturer.
The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
Honestly the new Touchwiz isn't that bad. The only people making a big fat fuss over it seem to be previous HTC owners. Let me tell you, sense sucks big fat donkey balls compared to Touchwiz. I was a Go Launcher devotee prior to owning the Epic Touch. Touchwiz has proved to be ok for me.
I would still be completely happy with my day one purchase of Epic Touch even if we don't end up getting ICS until mid next year, gingerbread on this thing still flies compared to every other phone out there.
Furthermore, the OG Epic had a slow but steady dev community. Half the roms I flashed on the evo ended up being kangs or just plain crappy old skins. There were a few really good ones, salvagemod was the best vanilla AOSP. But really, the OG Epic community put out some real quality stuff, albeit at a slower pace.
Honest answer: jump in, the water is fine. Yeah, ICS will be quite nice once we get it, but in the meantime, there isn't a better phone you can get on sprint than the Epic touch.
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thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
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Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
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Literally was writing this verbatim! LOL. I'm guessing OP posted without looking anywhere but the EVO forum and this Q and A section or the dozens of ICS threads would have reached out and smacked him in the eye.
Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
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The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
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I definitely agree with you in that the Evo is old news. Which is why I'm considering the upgrade to begin with. It is showing it's age more and more.
Thank you for your input.
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Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
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Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
Does Sammy not release source code? Aren't they legally required to do this?
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Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
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I really don't see anyone trolling you here. Looks like a pretty tame thread to me. My comment was probably the "harshest"if you could call it that. My main point was that you stated that no one was working on ICS and I was pointing out that it would be extremely difficult to miss the fact that several devs are in fact working on ICS, MIUI, CM7+9, AOSP and more TW custom ROM's.
I don't think any of us disagree that we wish there we more things going on, but I also think people forget that the EVO dev process was not overnight. Go back to the first EVO posts and you can see that it was several weeks from release before the customization started and a couple months before things really got going. And when the EVO came out, there was zero worthy competition. Pretty much everyone jumped on the EVO train.
I don't think that anyone here is upset by your post, but I do think it discounts the efforts that have been going on for well over a month to get ICS and the other goods to this device.
"There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on." I think that statement was the one that bothered me because it clearly showed that you were making assumptions without doing any research. And we have enough people in this forum doing plenty of that already. In fact, I have never seen more dev cooperation on any other device. Take a look at the ICS thread from the beginning and you'll see some amazing teamwork. Unfortunately derailed by demanding and entitled community members and leeches, but still alive and kicking in IRC and private spaces.
But I digress, the main point, you probably wouldn't be disappointed by picking up this phone. IMO, it is the best out right now and a quick look around will show you that the number of ROMs is about to hit a stride. The dates of release can show you that new work has just arrived and its beginning to look a lot like EVO-town in here.
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Coming from the Evo 4G and writing guides and helping people on those forums for a while, I bought an E4GT.
Compared to the Evo just development wise on XDA, there aren't as many ROMs or as much development going on.
But phone wise, its a great phone and a great upgrade from the Evo 4G. Personally I use Launcher Pro/ADW so slapping that over TouchWiz is great.
Rooting is simple. There are auto roots going on and not as much of a pain as the Evo 4G. Also flashing things like Radios, ROMs, etc are faster as well because of the difference in phone speed and boot speed.
As for ICS, there was something in the works, but I think there hasn't been any much development on it.
Hi.Is there something possible to make touchwiz run on Samsung Galaxy Nexus?An apk or something.Thx
just one question! WHY??? touchwiz ist absolutly gay! get a sgs2 if you want that
Wow. I wasn't sure a bad question could get worse but your ignorant response managed to do it.
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Touchwiz is impossible to port over to an AOSP based phone. TouchWiz is a seperate piece of software on the top of Android developed specifically for Samsung Software. Just because the GNexus is a Samsung phone doesn't mean Samsung's specified software will be on it.
Just isn't possible.
I think I saw a thread regarding this over at rootzwiki, just try using the search function either there or over here at XDA. As far as I know, the idea hasn't progressed far. To the people undermining this post, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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Wow. I wasn't sure a bad question could get worse but your ignorant response managed to do it.
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I wouldn't call their response ignorant .. more surprised then anything since the SGII has better specs then the Gnex and is slated to get ICS w/ TouchWiz anyway. Why most bought a Gnex was to have a stock as a rock phone with no waiting on vendor updates after their 3rd party UI is bolted on.
So yeah .. why would you want to sully your ICS stock phone with TouchWiz? You might give the MIUI ICS rom a shot .. it's kind of iPhone/Touchwizy.
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I wouldn't call their response ignorant .. more surprised then anything since the SGII has better specs then the Gnex and is slated to get ICS w/ TouchWiz anyway. Why most bought a Gnex was to have a stock as a rock phone with no waiting on vendor updates after their 3rd party UI is bolted on.
So yeah .. why would you want to sully your ICS stock phone with TouchWiz? You might give the MIUI ICS rom a shot .. it's kind of iPhone/Touchwizy.
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I class TouchWiz as bloatware.
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I class it as unneeded as ICS's UI rocks.
I was referring to the ignorant use of 'gay'. If someone wants to waste a great phone with tw, more power to them.
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this thread is pure win
Probably safe to say there's low interest in porting it over. At the very earliest it won't happen until Samsung releases an ICS + Touchwiz update or phone that someone can backport.
Why would anyone want that? No disrespect mate, but the mind boggles.
You really want those horrible icons, cartoon fonts, and Windows 3.1 era buttons instead of the silky, understated sophistication of ICS? If you just got your Nexus, just spend a few weeks with it and I guarantee that you won't want anything else.
On the other hand, if you do really want it, trade your phone for a Galaxy S2.
I am just sayin', because I don't see anyone porting TWiz (or Sense, or Blur) to the GNexus. See how all the custom ROMs remain true to the ICS interface.
ho ho ho
samsung should read this thread, it might make them think about touch-wiz and its terrible looks, i had touch wiz on my mk1 galaxy tab... for 3 hours! then i flashed a new rom
its just like a thread i saw years ago on the G1 forum where someone asked if anyone was working on porting WM6.5 to the G1 - you can guess how that went down.
anyhow - for anyone who does want the touch wiz look why not install miui and use a theme, okay so there is one cool feature on touch-wiz.. the CLOCK it is actually a very nice clock. Google need to do more with widgets and apps for android.. i know they could do such a good job if only they thought about adding a bit more to the experience.
anyways - i think if cm9 can be ported to the sgs2 and if htc sense ui can be ported to the g1 theres no reason touchwiz cant be ported to the GalNex but you would need a bunch of folks who want it first !!
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Hell no.
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almost puked at the idea of twiz on a nexus
best of luck on your endeavor though
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almost puked at the idea of twiz on a nexus
best of luck on your endeavor though
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Its almost as worse as someone asking to port HTC Sense over...I mean, WHY!
If you download Mediafire then search for 'Samsunghome.apk' then download it. also if you are running a custom rom that supports themes e.g CM7 you can download Touchwizzed-CM7 of the Market to co-aside with it. Simples!
I created a thread about this topic earlier and just as you would expect, people trashed it as well. It's such a shame so many of these Nexus owners are AOSP freaks. There are many great UI's out there that people like and to call any of them "gay" or "trash" is just blatantly ignorant. Unfortunately, I've learned that a good portion of XDA members are very disrespectful. Tread lightly OP.
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I created a thread about this topic earlier and just as you would expect, people trashed it as well. It's such a shame so many of these Nexus owners are AOSP freaks. There are many great UI's out there that people like and to call any of them "gay" or "trash" is just blatantly ignorant. Unfortunately, I've learned that a good portion of XDA members are very disrespectful. Tread lightly OP.
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Most people buy a Nexus so we won't have to deal with the horrible skins that manufacturers force down our throats. They're tacky and slow down the whole OS. There's nothing "ignorant" about wanting our open source phones to be completely open and clean.
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TheBiles said:
Most people buy a Nexus so we won't have to deal with the horrible skins that manufacturers force down our throats. They're tacky and slow down the whole OS. There's nothing "ignorant" about wanting our open source phones to be completely open and clean.
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Unless you can provide statistics, I wouldn't go around stating things like "most people". For example, the only reason I got a Nexus is because I wanted a flagship Samsung device on Verizon and they decided to skip the Galaxy SII for the Galaxy Nexus. So I had no choice. If it was any other way, I would happily take the Galaxy SII for better performance hardware, better camera, better battery life and TouchWiz 4.0. Since it will clearly be getting ICS very soon, and 100% someone will develop an AOSP ROM for it as well, I would have considered that a much better investment. Where as with a Nexus, I'm stuck with AOSP like it or not.
this isn't meant to entice any kind of flame war, but I was just kind of wondering since I just joined my g/f's plan on T-mobile, and she has the S2 and now I have the S3 .....her S2 only has maybe 2-3 options for ICS roms (besides the standard AOSP)
and I see we're already lagging behind other providers?
just wondering if thats kind of standard, or if things tend to speed up a bit.
or perhaps is there another well known outlet for roms besides XDA for T-mobile? I know I've been coming here since the OG Evo came out and haven't found anything better yet.
The Tmo S2 forums used to be filled with ROMs but the devs stopped deving one after another until there were only a few left.
I'm sure the S3 will have a lot of great devs. Just gotta give it time. Phone has only been out a month.
In my personal opinion, the number of ROMs available doesn't reflect whether a device has good development or bad development. In my experience from the 6 devices I've owned, the VAST majority of "development" is really just people taking the same ROM (usually either the stock one or a CM version) and removing or adding some apps and themeing it. That's not development, that's themeing and doing the same thing anyone else can do with Root Explorer.
It's about quality, not quantity, and with the devs that I've seen around so far it looks like we are in for some great quality ROMs.
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In my personal opinion, the number of ROMs available doesn't reflect whether a device has good development or bad development. In my experience from the 6 devices I've owned, the VAST majority of "development" is really just people taking the same ROM (usually either the stock one or a CM version) and removing or adding some apps and themeing it. That's not development, that's themeing and doing the same thing anyone else can do with Root Explorer.
It's about quality, not quantity, and with the devs that I've seen around so far it looks like we are in for some great quality ROMs.
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I concur, if the hardware is solid then the development will follow. So far I'm impressed with the work for the gs3 and the speed at which things have already started being released.
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WhitehawkX and RomanBB and a couple others and I think a couple of the other devs from the G2X forums are coming here, those alone mean extremely great things for us. Not to mention Cyanogen, (Steve Kondik) himself may very well own this phone as well. Mostly we already have pretty stable cm9 builds they want cm10 now. AOKP cm10 (whitehawkx and romanBB) have been working on that like crazy. Things will explode no worries. Oh and not to mention we already have Morfic and Faux as kernel devs, they support many devices and do amazing things.
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Im more pissed about Sprint now having 3 updates,....are we getting one??
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Im more pissed about Sprint now having 3 updates,....are we getting one??
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I think their update was to remove features. I don't think you want that. :cyclops:
Lack of dev support? Really? As long as we have Steve Kondik (aka Cyanogen) on our side...we'll never lack in the dev dept. Not to mention...Morfic, Faux123, Romanbb...etc. They are, IMO, the best devs XDA has to offer.
Yeah, I don't understand your concern. We have THE premier developer for Android developing for our phones. You want more than Cyanogen himself to have this phone?
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Im more pissed about Sprint now having 3 updates,....are we getting one??
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2 updates were useless the last one tho is good for the notification brightness control, I think is weird that we haven't get one yet, I feel like the us carriers will have jellybean gfirst before tmobile
To the OP Idk man the phone is new the evo didn't explode on development until after 3-4 months, and what I'm waiting the most besides cm10 stable is myns rom, he most likely make it compatible with all us carriers and likes his roms a lot, and the themes he uses it is my favorite so far
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Cyanogen
Eugene
Romanbb
Faux123
^So far the list isn't long but it's quality over quantity in this instance. Although, I am curious as to whether or not Faux, Eurgene, and Cyanogen own the Tmobile S3 or not.
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Cyanogen
Eugene
Romanbb
Faux123
^So far the list isn't long but it's quality over quantity in this instance. Although, I am curious as to whether or not Faux, Eurgene, and Cyanogen own the Tmobile S3 or not.
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I know cyanogen does he posted a pic on his Google plus
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Cyanogen is awesome..but I have no service at my house..so AOSP is out for me next to getting wifi calling working on AOSP
so...while im not saying that we dont have quality dev...its nice to have some variety...for a variety of reasons.
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Cyanogen is awesome..but I have no service at my house..so AOSP is out for me next to getting wifi calling working on AOSP
so...while im not saying that we dont have quality dev...its nice to have some variety...for a variety of reasons.
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TBH most of the variety comes from rehashed ROMs that were already out...Just saying.
I'm just hoping we get MIUI JB soon, I can't wait.
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Cyanogen
Eugene
Romanbb
Faux123
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WhitehawkX and Cyanogen as well.
It's seriously like the all-star team of devs working on ROMs for the T Mobile variant.
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TBH most of the variety comes from rehashed ROMs that were already out...Just saying.
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Well said.
Cyanogen and Team kang! What else can you possibly need.
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this isn't meant to entice any kind of flame war, but I was just kind of wondering since I just joined my g/f's plan on T-mobile, and she has the S2 and now I have the S3 .....her S2 only has maybe 2-3 options for ICS roms (besides the standard AOSP)
and I see we're already lagging behind other providers?
just wondering if thats kind of standard, or if things tend to speed up a bit.
or perhaps is there another well known outlet for roms besides XDA for T-mobile? I know I've been coming here since the OG Evo came out and haven't found anything better yet.
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+1 i agree with op
& I wouldn't consider cyanogen/aosp as a tmobile rom chus there Roms are out for other phones as well and if you look at the cyanogenmod site our device is not even supported on there the international one is..
If you look at the tmobile android development we have like 2 Roms that's actually ment for our tmobile galaxy s3 but theyre not even being updated,team sonic rom was updated on 7/20 but that's about it
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+1 i agree with op
& I wouldn't consider cyanogen/aosp as a tmobile rom chus there Roms are out for other phones as well and if you look at the cyanogenmod site our device is not even supported on there the international one is..
If you look at the tmobile android development we have like 2 Roms that's actually ment for our tmobile galaxy s3 but theyre not even being updated,team sonic rom was updated on 7/20 but that's about it
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I would agree. Even though there's a great lineup of developers as already mentioned, there's a lot less activity in the development section than other carriers. I know others have mentioned quality over quantity but other sections aren't lacking in quality even with the additional rom options.
And since the stock rom is pretty solid, I actually don't mind seeing more tweaked stock roms. Both for customization and optimization.
However, I'm still satisfied with current Sonic rom and as some have mentioned, this is the first phone I've owned that I haven't felt the need to flash something multiple times a week in order for the phone to perform properly.
Samsung did a great job this round producing a phone that performs great out of the box. It only gets better from here and with stock performance being what it is, I can be patient while developers get cooking.
unfortunately there's going to be a chilling effect on AOSP / CM dev'ing until this lost IMEI issue can be understood..
I've been around since cyanogenmod was just another rom along with bugless beast and whatever the hell was running things on eclair/mytouch and ive compiled kernels hundreds of times back when slackware linux 3.5 was out so i feel like im somewhat of a vet and i appreciate the fact that i have a nice little linux device permanently connected to a broadband connection with so much support in a neat little package.
=)!
and yet i never say anything on XDA i just appreciate... unfortunately i cant post in the development forum because i dont say much ;/
big thumbs up to cyanogenmod for taking their work so seriously and being so persistent, you guys must really love what you do, trust me i know the feeling =]
i just got this phone last week and before i did anything i rooted and installed the latest CM with whatever kernel appealed to me in the dev forum and i thought seriously my screen was defective i had no idea it was just a rom/kernel issue so im glad that over with.
i updated to cm22, and the flicker started again when using the 4/20 KT kernel so ill just stick with cm20 +kt420 for now what an unbelievable combo!
and i'm kinda disappointed in AOKP every time i check the AOKP/task thread somebody is always complaining about something that doesn't work... AOKP used to be my favorite. (when the ICS days began atleast.. i loved it on my gnex)
and by the way... to people having problems flashing between kernels, when you flash a kernel, wipe cache/dalvik, then flash the rom again, then gapps, then the new kernel. kernels include more things than just addition lines of code nowadays and thats the simplest way to work around most issues i see people posting about.
that is all!
Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.
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Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.
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+1, agreed.
Just like the guy who wants to request a theme for a rom, that morphology has for that same rom.
READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coming from the skyrocket which had a pretty good community I am really pleased with what developers do in their spare time and decide to share when it comes to this device.
There are so many options it can keep a flash junkie busy for a while.
Keep up the great work devs!
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I love these threads....I have an idea: If you are disappointed why don't you step up and create a solution or make your own ROM? Its easy to complain about FREE work when you don't contribute whatsoever.
True, don't complain about something people spend all their time on and give away for free ...
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We have a large dev community compared to many devices out there. I actually came from a galaxy nexus because I got bored of only aosp roms that were all pretty much the same.
(sorry, had to do it )
Tasks AOKP is by far the best ROM out there for the AT&T S3. I have run it longer than any other ROM i've tried and have had absolutely zero problems with it. I will never use anything else for this phone. Just my personal experience of course.
Whoaa guys ease up on the bashing... OP had only one sentence in his post that was negative everything else was positive.
I think everyone appreciates the hard work and time that devs put into all the different roms/kernels available out there.
Up until the late, I can agree that the 3.4 kernel builds (for any ROM including Tasks) weren't all that great which is why I was using CarbonROM with the BMS kernel (3.0).
But I updated to Tasks 4/23 and everything has been great...super super smooth.
Tasks updated kernel has been smooth. I'm running his newest now, flashes it a few hours ago and love it. The devs for the S3 are wonderful. So many more options than other android phones I've had in the past.
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If I'm reading right, OP is disappointed in AOKP and Task's AOKP.... and hasn't tried them yet?
It takes me longer to download a ROM than it does to flash it, restore data and check out all the main features for functionallity..... and you're calling them out by name without trying them?
Gutsy move.
Nothing wrong with AOKP and we have a fantastic aosp community. They seem to be more active then the original development. If anything I'm disappointed with the lack of touchwiz ROMs. All and all. We have a good community and a good group of developers here. /end thread.
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This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back
3rd party ROMs are always works in progress. its not like anyone here is hiding the fact that these are all "in development". not all ROMs are "for" everyone, but that's the beauty of it, there's a flavor for everyone.
I personally prefer ROMs that are subtle improvements to the stock experience which give me a more enhanced version of what Samsung intended. BUT, there are times I'll think about getting a nexus 4, so I'll run a aosp/cm/aokp based ROM while scratching that itch. or those days I wished I had a note 2, we've got options with multi window and page buddy fully working.
if you don't like it, don't use it... simple as that. I've never critisized a ROM or developer if I don't "get" their work, that just means its not a good fit for me and I move on.
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This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back
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Here you go, enjoy!
Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Huh?
1.) Looks as though you forgot something as simple as reading. Read my post again. If you consider any of that one post as bashing then I think you might need to check the emotional state you are in at the time that you read it.
2.) You're definitely not reading the OP. He pretty much stated that he hasn't even tried the ROM before judging it. That right there speaks for itself.
3.) Please do yourself a favor and grow up a little. Stirring up the pot with the highschool antics doesnt accomplish anything.
4.) Gold stars for you dude. Keep on contributing this wasteful drama here in a development site. That makes a ton of sense.