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what wastes more energy? having 4g on or having wifi on? i read the other threads but it had to do with 3g.. they said 3g wastes more power. is this the case with 4g as well?
thanks!
WiFi drains more battery always
that's from personal observation on all the phones i've owned in the past to now
as soon as you use WiFi the battery drains like there's no tomorrow
however this phone seems to handle it quite well
Yeah, 4G is a big battery hog. Wifi doesn't drain as much so long as you are connected to the same one for a while.
EDIT: just saw AllGamer's reply. Wifi really drains that much? I remember seeing the Droid Razr review saying that 4G eats batteries for breakfast. I might be wrong then!
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They both drain battery about the same in my opinion.
When ever I can I turn both of them off to save battery.
It's really easy with the toggles that a couple roms have.
This phone is a BEAST!
From my personal experience wifi doesn't drain as much as 4g.
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WiFi is far more efficient than the cellular network, and any usage will count against your allocated full speed GB's.. not a good thing.
don't have a sgsII yet but my experience with my vibrant is that wifi if connected uses less battery than hspa. If I'm not connected to a wifi network it drains the battery looking for one.
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WiFi is far more efficient than the cellular network, and any usage will count against your allocated full speed GB's.. not a good thing.
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Forgive my ignorance but how come the usage of Wifi will count against your allocated full speed? My personal experience has been different .
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Forgive my ignorance but how come the usage of Wifi will count against your allocated full speed? My personal experience has been different .
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I meant not using it will count against your data allotment
lol so there's no unanimous answer. i guess i'll just try to experiment a little and see which one uses more. thanks everyone.
4G uses more battery than WiFi
Definitely 4G... I sit on wifi all day and do not use much battery at all.
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Yeah, 4G is a big battery hog. Wifi doesn't drain as much so long as you are connected to the same one for a while.
EDIT: just saw AllGamer's reply. Wifi really drains that much? I remember seeing the Droid Razr review saying that 4G eats batteries for breakfast. I might be wrong then!
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From what I understand, LTE is a bigger battery hog than HSPA+.
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From what I understand, LTE is a bigger battery hog than HSPA+.
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For sure. And after that I'd say HSPA+ > WiFi in terms of battery draining.
Wait, our phone runs off energy. Please tell me its kinetic?!
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Wait, our phone runs off energy. Please tell me its kinetic?!
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Solar backpack maybe ?
ok guys lets keep this topic sane, yeah it's funny, but lets go back on topic
it's a very valid & informative question
my personal experience shows me WiFi is worst, but others here says 3G/4G is even worse, but from personal experience 3G/4G is less than WiFi
so even i find that contradiction very interesting
the thing that could make a difference is the signal strength, perhaps better 3G/4G reception requires less power to maintain the connection?
possibly the same reason why WiFi always seems to do worse for me, because all the Starbucks, Airport, Hotel, Library, and other coffe/restaurant places that offer WiFi it's horrible, very slow, and hard to maintain signal, probably because tooooooooo many people are hogging it or maybe just because too many devices are bumping each other off the Router/WiFi AP on those establishments
Whenever I use wifi I turn my data off and gst better battery that way. If you have a bad data signal or wifi it'll take more battery to try to keep a connection.
In my Bio class I have terrible data signal and my battery will drain really fast with heavy use but if I turn on my wifi and turn off the data my battery iis way better
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So after doing testing of my own I have come to the conclusion that 4G drains more battery than wifi. With wifi I can get about 14 hrs, but with 4G I only get 6-8 hrs.
This phone is a BEAST!
AllGamer, makes sense. If you have slower networks, your screen will be on for longer as you wait inbetween pages and downloads. Fast downloads => less screen time.
My personal experience with wifi vs THREE-g is that wifi eats my battery quickly (on all previous phones and there have been many, including present BB Torch for work). An d 3G doesn't drain as quickly.
However I agree wifi seems pretty sippy and efficient on the SGH-T989. My battery is learning. I am now getting 1 day and 13 hours of discharge time. Very moderate use. 4G. So yes there well may be a difference between 3 and 4G.
I will test wifi-only as soon as I can in the next few days.
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ok guys lets keep this topic sane, yeah it's funny, but lets go back on topic
it's a very valid & informative question
my personal experience shows me WiFi is worst, but others here says 3G/4G is even worse, but from personal experience 3G/4G is less than WiFi
so even i find that contradiction very interesting
the thing that could make a difference is the signal strength, perhaps better 3G/4G reception requires less power to maintain the connection?
possibly the same reason why WiFi always seems to do worse for me, because all the Starbucks, Airport, Hotel, Library, and other coffe/restaurant places that offer WiFi it's horrible, very slow, and hard to maintain signal, probably because tooooooooo many people are hogging it or maybe just because too many devices are bumping each other off the Router/WiFi AP on those establishments
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to the point where I'm thinking of returning my Galaxy Nexus. The phone is beautiful and slick but I can't deal with the battery life. I'm especially worried for when I go back to my University next week because I'm not sure if the phone would last while I'm going from class to class from 9 AM to 5 PM everyday and most rooms having low to no reception.
Before this phone I had the HTC Thunderbolt with the extended battery and it could last me the whole day while I was going from class to class and under heavy and constan usage (to the point where I never had to bother monitering it or caring about the battery). I would have auto-brightness on, GPS, Google Latitude, use Facebook app freeling, have Google+ uploading my pics as soon as they were taken, use Pulse, and be ALWAYS connected to 4G without worrying about the battery life.
Now with the Galaxy Nexus I'm forced to turn down my brightness, turn off GPS, turn off Latitude (you can see where this is going. Pretty much opposite of Thunderbolt), uninstall Facebook and disable Google+, minimize my usage, and use Wifi whenever possible to get through a few hours. I even uninstalled Google Voice today to see if that makes any difference. Really? Why am I crippling my smartphone? Why should I have to turn off 4G on a 4G phone to save battery?
I'm obviously an idiot for comparing a Thunderbolt that has an extended battery (2,750 mAh) with the Galaxy Nexus that has a normal battery (1,850 mAh). It's also my fault for trying to believe that battery technology would improve in about a year especially after the horrible battery life from the Thunderbolt; I thought that people would learn from other's mistakes. I thought that the Galaxy Nexus, Google's new and precious baby, would fix the woes from previous phones.
I've been following a ton of forums to find out if there's a fix and I've done a bunch of stuff (disable Google+, uninstall Facebook, etc) but there's barely a difference. Some people are suggesting that an update will come along to fix the battery but I'm tired of hearing that excuse. A software fix will only do so much. And 4.0.3 has been announced for a quite a while from Google. Why hasn't this phone been update to 4.0.3? Why did Google halt it from the Nexus S? Is there something that's running down the battery even more with that update? I don't want to go off topic but I just hate being kept in the dark and not understanding what is going on.
Here I am now typing this as I'm looking at my Thunderbolt while it charges. I'm planning on trying out a few ICS ROMs to see how they go. I'm just tired of second guessing myself. The Galaxy Nexus is a beautiful device, both software and hardware wise; the camera may not be the best but I love it's speed and ICS is just sleek as F. But I can't fully enjoy the phone with the mediocre battery life that I am getting.
I suggest stock 4.0.2 with ogdobber's jamesbond kernel which only has undervolt open and the gpu oc'ed. Probably need to turn off lte and stick to the CDMA. 3g CDMA isn't fast but it is passable and battery efficient.
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even if battery tech does drastically increase 1750 mah will ALWAYS still be 1750mah it may take up less space or create less heat.. Mah is a measurement of milliamperes per hour
Try Paul O'Brien's excellent MoDaCo ROM - very impressive battery life and for $9 you get access to the kitchen. There's an update due today which will fix a flaky call issue.
Alternatively, hang on for 4.0.3 which is likely to bring some decent battery life improvements and bug fixes (though wouldn't surprise me if it's out for the Galaxy S2 first). I used to get 2-3 days of heavy use from my SGS2, get one of those and wait for ICS if you want better battery.
And a last alternatively... shove one of these in your bag:
http://www.firebox.com/product/2692/Pebble-Portable-Charger
If your in places with no reception, put the thing in airplace mode or disable mobile data.
This phone gives me the best battery life vs my last 4 phones,... HTC hero, htc evo, Nexus s, and htc evo 3d...
Get an external battery. Since you are in uni I suppose you will be carrying around a bag anyway so it won't be too inconvenient to lug around. Just leave your phone charging during lunch and it should last the rest if the afternoon.
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Go into your sstem/app folder and take off apps that you don't use. EVERYTHING you don't use. if you take a trip to that folder you're gonna see a lot of **** that you didn't know was there.
Do some cleaning and you should be fine with your normal usage. Also, try to flash a kernel so you can customize the governors and allow the phone to sleep more efficiently.
Coming from a thunderbolt, you should know how horrible battery life is for ANY stock android device...
There's no need to gimp your smartphone. I fluffing hate it when people say "just disable 4g, 3g, take auto-sync off, turn brightness all the way down, and only surf the web with wifi"
WHAT? WHY THE **** DID I BUY A 4G SMARTPHONE THEN IF I'M ONLY GONNA USE IT AS JUST A PHONE?
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Also to put it in context...I'm using the epic 4g and I still have the stock 1500 mAh battery and the only time I lasted more than 4 hours on stock without having to charge was with a gngerbread leak.
But after a couple days of devs getting dirty and taking the time to clean up, your battery should last exponentially longer since people will have figured out what exactly drains the batter and how to stop it.
On the epic, it was the DRM. **** always ran in the background, then someone discovered it and about a month later it became so irrelevant since all the devs knew what code to get the drm to stfu until you needed it
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Go into your sstem/app folder and take off apps that you don't use. EVERYTHING you don't use. if you take a trip to that folder you're gonna see a lot of **** that you didn't know was there.
Do some cleaning and you should be fine with your normal usage. Also, try to flash a kernel so you can customize the governors and allow the phone to sleep more efficiently.
Coming from a thunderbolt, you should know how horrible battery life is for ANY stock android device...
There's no need to gimp your smartphone. I fluffing hate it when people say "just disable 4g, 3g, take auto-sync off, turn brightness all the way down, and only surf the web with wifi"
WHAT? WHY THE **** DID I BUY A 4G SMARTPHONE THEN IF I'M ONLY GONNA USE IT AS JUST A PHONE?
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Lol lay off the nerd 'roids. It like leaving all the lights on and air conditioning in your house and wondering why the bill is so high. It's like a lot of people are expecting their smartphone to automatically be efficient. Get a bigger gas tank if you need to run a marathon. Otherwise sprint efficiently with what you have.
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Lol lay off the nerd 'roids. It like leaving all the lights on and air conditioning in your house and wondering why the bill is so high. It's like a lot of people are expecting their smartphone to automatically be efficient. Get a bigger gas tank if you need to run a marathon. Otherwise sprint efficiently with what you have.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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Hah.. fallout new Vegas Nerd Rage perk. STR to Max and screen-on drain resistance +50% when battery falls below 20%.
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(though wouldn't surprise me if it's out for the Galaxy S2 first).
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What
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Game4set said:
to the point where I'm thinking of returning my Galaxy Nexus. The phone is beautiful and slick but I can't deal with the battery life. I'm especially worried for when I go back to my University next week because I'm not sure if the phone would last while I'm going from class to class from 9 AM to 5 PM everyday and most rooms having low to no reception.
Before this phone I had the HTC Thunderbolt with the extended battery and it could last me the whole day while I was going from class to class and under heavy and constan usage (to the point where I never had to bother monitering it or caring about the battery). I would have auto-brightness on, GPS, Google Latitude, use Facebook app freeling, have Google+ uploading my pics as soon as they were taken, use Pulse, and be ALWAYS connected to 4G without worrying about the battery life.
Now with the Galaxy Nexus I'm forced to turn down my brightness, turn off GPS, turn off Latitude (you can see where this is going. Pretty much opposite of Thunderbolt), uninstall Facebook and disable Google+, minimize my usage, and use Wifi whenever possible to get through a few hours. I even uninstalled Google Voice today to see if that makes any difference. Really? Why am I crippling my smartphone? Why should I have to turn off 4G on a 4G phone to save battery?
I'm obviously an idiot for comparing a Thunderbolt that has an extended battery (2,750 mAh) with the Galaxy Nexus that has a normal battery (1,850 mAh). It's also my fault for trying to believe that battery technology would improve in about a year especially after the horrible battery life from the Thunderbolt; I thought that people would learn from other's mistakes. I thought that the Galaxy Nexus, Google's new and precious baby, would fix the woes from previous phones.
I've been following a ton of forums to find out if there's a fix and I've done a bunch of stuff (disable Google+, uninstall Facebook, etc) but there's barely a difference. Some people are suggesting that an update will come along to fix the battery but I'm tired of hearing that excuse. A software fix will only do so much. And 4.0.3 has been announced for a quite a while from Google. Why hasn't this phone been update to 4.0.3? Why did Google halt it from the Nexus S? Is there something that's running down the battery even more with that update? I don't want to go off topic but I just hate being kept in the dark and not understanding what is going on.
Here I am now typing this as I'm looking at my Thunderbolt while it charges. I'm planning on trying out a few ICS ROMs to see how they go. I'm just tired of second guessing myself. The Galaxy Nexus is a beautiful device, both software and hardware wise; the camera may not be the best but I love it's speed and ICS is just sleek as F. But I can't fully enjoy the phone with the mediocre battery life that I am getting.
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Battery lasts me all day on the GSM version.
Folks, powering an extra radio uses extra power.
Moreover, the longer your data connection stays active, the longer your radio is active which is an even bigger drain. Since the LTE Gnexus devices are powering 2 radios (CDMA *and* LTE) simultaneously, and the second radio isn't as efficient as the standard radio that's part of the SoC package, this means that you need to ration your data usage if you want your battery to last.
Again, on the GSM version this isn't an issue because the radio is built into the SoC from the ground up, as well as it being only a single active radio at a time (GSM *or* UMTS/HSPA).
Software updates won't change that. It's a matter of physics. The LTE version may see some improvements here and there, but no software will counteract the effects of having to power 2 radios constantly.
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Lol lay off the nerd 'roids. It like leaving all the lights on and air conditioning in your house and wondering why the bill is so high. It's like a lot of people are expecting their smartphone to automatically be efficient. Get a bigger gas tank if you need to run a marathon. Otherwise sprint efficiently with what you have.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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Lol its definitely not like that. Its more like buying a new eco lightbulb that you use just like your old lightbulb but your bill is $80 more. Wut? LOL
But nah my epic 4g lasts me the whole day with 4g on (no access to wifi :[ ), auto-sync for gmail (i don't use facebook so its always the first app to go), blah blah blah. The only time battery is a problem is if I'm in a no sprint zone and forget to make my phone roam. Other than that, its used as a smartphone with 3+ hours of screen on time (voodoo color allowsyou to edit the gamm values and what not so its able to sip less power for the same brightness if that makes sense)
Seriously, root your phone and if stock is your thing, just install a custom kernel. Kernels handle the voltages and frequencies andhow your phone interacts with certain things so a custom kernel will almost ALWAYS have been optimized over stock. You will probably see a muc better result if you flash a ROM and Kernel, simply because custom roms are made to work without all the extra **** running in the background that no one wants
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Originally Posted by David Horn
(though wouldn't surprise me if it's out for the Galaxy S2 first).
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Willing to stick my neck out and bet that we see 4.0.3 with all the Touchwiz toys out before the 4.0.3 update from Google.
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Go into your sstem/app folder and take off apps that you don't use. EVERYTHING you don't use. if you take a trip to that folder you're gonna see a lot of **** that you didn't know was there.
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Just to clarify, make sure you KNOW what you're deleting and make backups anyway, just in case something you remove from there causes issues with another application that expects it to be there. Sure, you can remove a lot (if not most) of things from system/app without harm, but don't just go deleting random things unless you are SURE there will not be side effects.
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Willing to stick my neck out and bet that we see 4.0.3 with all the Touchwiz toys out before the 4.0.3 update from Google.
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Sorry, but that's not gonna happen...
Terminators run on Android
You can have good battery life, of course
Here is mine, all stocks, not-rooted, not-unlocked, 4.0.1, yakju.
Using EXTENDED Battery 2000 mAH, GSM version.
Stand by 2 days and 7 hours, screen on time was 3 hours and 18 minutes.
It still has about 17% battery life, which could easily translate to 1 hour or so screen on time
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TERRIBLE advice. Make sure you KNOW what you're deleting and make backups anyway, just in case something you remove from there causes issues with another application that expects it to be there. Sure, you can remove a lot (if not most) of things from system/app without harm, but don't just go deleting random things unless you are SURE there will not be side effects.
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Common sense dictates not to delete something if you aren't sure what it is.
I apologize for having faith in the OP's cognitive functions.
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Common sense dictates not to delete something if you aren't sure what it is.
I apologize for having faith in the OP's cognitive functions.
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Your words were to delete EVERYTHING in system/app that you don't use. I'm not trying to pick an argument here, but I just like to clarify, because what may be common sense to some people may not be to another. Not even necessarily the OP, but others that come across the thread in the future.
/worked in tech support -- common sense can never be assumed.
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You can have good battery life, of course
Here is mine, all stocks, not-rooted, not-unlocked, 4.0.1, yakju.
Using EXTENDED Battery 2000 mAH, GSM version.
Stand by 2 days and 7 hours, screen on time was 3 hours and 18 minutes.
It still has about 17% battery life, which could easily translate to 1 hour or so screen on time
Forgot to tell, im using original gsm 1750mAh bat.
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WOW! Best iv'e seen so far! I manage to get about 3h on screen time over one day of use, but 2 days and nights with already over 3h screen and still 17% to go!! Wow i do keep gps, sync, latitude, g+ turned on at all times though and always 100% screen brightness, no facebook.. gonna delete that acc soon.. any trix you use to get that bat,life?
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1. Battery life sucks. I had to bring a charger to work. Battery life sucks so bad that I switched back to my Thunderbolt, a phone not known for its great battery life either, but at least I'm no longer a slave monitoring my battery use. I can stream music and browse or game at the same time without needing a charger close at hand.
2. The gnex screen is a disappointment, especially at low back light levels. And I thought that SAMOLED pentile matrix screens were supposed to be energy efficient compared to normal LCD displays, but I've never seen such a battery life sucker in a phone. Inverted apps and black backgrounds don't help.
3. CDMA/LTE Radio. Not horrible, and getting better. Pretty much all if my LTE problems were network related. CDMA has been flakier for me but the 4.04 update seemed much better for the short time I used it. All CDMA/LTE combo phones suck battery life.
4. Apps/Market/ICS. So many of the games I've purchased are incompatible with the gnex its laughable. I must have $50 of games that I can't play on my gnex.
5. No good car and home docks.
This criticism post isn't meant to rile up gnex fanboys. My intention is to give valid criticism for people doing research before buying a new phone.
The VZW Nexus is a high maintenance phone, which needs users to constantly monitor battery use, make compromises on how they use their phone, and need chargers close at hand, but there are no good charging docks. Many games are incompatible with the gnex too.
So due to the hassles of using a VZW Nexus, I've gone back to my Thunderbolt as my every day phone, and my gnex has been relegated to being a mini wifi tablet that has a charger nearby.
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You lost me when you said you went back to a Thunderbolt and were previously *****ing about battery life, LTE radios, and the like.
Logical.....not.
Battery life is increased with the 4.0.4 patch.
Games not working isn't the fault of the GNex, its up to the game dev to update their game to make it work in Ice Cream Sandwich.
Poor radio...that's subjective. I get great reception in my town. Its not necessarily the phones fault you get poor signal. Also, signal strength is improved in the 4.0.4 patch.
This phone may not have the most features forever, but that's the point. Nexus phones spur innovation in the other OEM's.
Sorry you're disappointed.
Funny, I came from a Thunderbolt and I thought it had decent battery. Will disagree on the fact that this Nexus is worse than that; it's been better (much better) compared to a Tbolt.
Whatever floats your boat though. One less battery thread then I guess.
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You lost me when you said you went back to a Thunderbolt and were previously *****ing about battery life, LTE radios, and the like.
Logical.....not.
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This is the same guy that got his other thread locked because he's just bashing this phone. And going back to the thunderbolt. What a joke. Leave now plz.
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1. You're doing something wrong with your battery. I'm consistently getting 1 day on the battery and still having some juice left over, and each GNex owner I know personally is getting the same results.
2. Backlight? You do know how AMOLED works right? On power efficiency, remember how you've got an HD display on the GNex? it has more pixels to push than the TBolt. It has already been proven that "pure black" is more efficient, but no one does that. Look at the power draw of the Rezound screen, it's ugly.
You're trolling, don't pretend you aren't.
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This is the same guy that got his other thread locked because he's just bashing this phone. And going back to the thunderbolt. What a joke. Leave now plz.
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yeap, thread closed then opened another one for the same thing.. stupidity has no bounds here..
Where's operation iron fist when you need it?
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What don't you understand? I'd be happy to explain it to you.
On my thunderbolt, I was able to stream the entire Super Bowl (commercials and halftime show too) over LTE with lots of battery life to spare. With my gnex, I would have had to put it on a charger or changed the battery some time in the 3rd quarter.
With my gnex I'm constantly making compromises on my phone use. Do I want to stream music or do want to browse or game? With my thunderbolt, I don't need to worry about making those compromises, I just stream music constantly, and browse and game without constantly monitoring battery usage.
With the vzw gnex, no kernel or rom yet has really helped the battery suck, but my Bolt on stock Sense sips on the battery by comparison. And as I mentioned in my OP, the Thunderbolt isn't known for good battery life, only in a head to head comparison with the gnex does the Bolt seem to have efficient battery use.
Do you still have a Thunderbolt? Go back to using that for a week. You'll be amazed at how much more use you'll get out of it compared to the gnex.
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What don't you understand? I'd be happy to explain it to you.
On my thunderbolt, I was able to stream the entire Super Bowl (commercials and halftime show too) over LTE with lots of battery life to spare. With my gnex, I would have had to put it on a charger or changed the battery some time in the 3rd quarter.
With my gnex I'm constantly making compromises on my phone use. Do I want to stream music or do want to browse or game? With my thunderbolt, I don't need to worry about making those compromises, I just stream music constantly, and browse and game without constantly monitoring battery usage.
With the vzw gnex, no kernel or rom yet has really helped the battery suck, but my Bolt on stock Sense sips on the battery by comparison. And as I mentioned in my OP, the Thunderbolt isn't known for good battery life, only in a head to head comparison with the gnex does the Bolt seem to have efficient battery use.
Do you still have a Thunderbolt? Go back to using that for a week. You'll be amazed at how much more use you'll get out of it compared to the gnex.
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Nobody cares what phone you use or what phone you think is better. We all know you're a troll.
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This is the same guy that got his other thread locked because he's just bashing this phone. And going back to the thunderbolt. What a joke. Leave now plz.
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LOL! Its my valid criticism of the phone after using it for over a month and a half.
And I'm still using it as a mini wifi tablet.
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kurttrail said:
LOL! Its my valid criticism of the phone after using it for over a month and a half.
And I'm still using it as a mini wifi tablet.
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It's your "valid criticism" that no one cares about. Go troll the thunderbolt forums, leave the adults alone.
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Azeolus said:
1. You're doing something wrong with your battery. I'm consistently getting 1 day on the battery and still having some juice left over, and each GNex owner I know personally is getting the same results.
2. Backlight? You do know how AMOLED works right? On power efficiency, remember how you've got an HD display on the GNex? it has more pixels to push than the TBolt. It has already been proven that "pure black" is more efficient, but no one does that. Look at the power draw of the Rezound screen, it's ugly.
You're trolling, don't pretend you aren't.
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1. When I use my phone the most is over lte. I doubt you'll get that battery life the way I use my phone. I've spent the last month and a half compromising my use to the gnex's battery suck, in comparison to my phone use with my Bolt. I'm sick and tired of being a slave to monitoring battery use.
2. I've installed every inverted app that I can find. Inverted the browser, and have a pure black background. The energy savings is no more than mere minutes.
And I'm not trolling. I'm sharing my valid criticism of my gnex in comparison to my Bolt. Why can't a person do that without being called a troll?
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Where's operation iron fist when you need it?
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Iron fist? Can't a person post valid criticism in this forum without veiled threats of violence?
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Iron fist? Can't a person post valid criticism in this forum without veiled threats of violence?
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Violence????? Lol. Iron fist is XDA's garbage cleaning initiative. Sigh.
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/operation-iron-fist-is-now-in-full-force/
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Nobody cares what phone you use or what phone you think is better. We all know you're a troll.
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Is name calling allowed in this forum? It certainly isn't on topic, which is my valid criticism of using a VZW Nexus for over a month and a half in comparison to my Bolt.
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I'm more interested to hear what the phone has to say about about you as an owner. And blame the game devs...
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lrs421 said:
It's your "valid criticism" that no one cares about. Go troll the thunderbolt forums, leave the adults alone.
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People researching their next phone purchase may care. And that's my intended audience.
With all the "I get great battery life" posts in this forum, a contrary opinion is needed, especially when you see the screen shots with hardly any display use.
I get great battery use too, in airplane mode and on standby, but if I want to use the display and 4g, the battery sucks much much faster than the same use on my Bolt. That's a fact, Jack!
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Fahrenheit said:
Battery life is increased with the 4.0.4 patch.
Games not working isn't the fault of the GNex, its up to the game dev to update their game to make it work in Ice Cream Sandwich.
Poor radio...that's subjective. I get great reception in my town. Its not necessarily the phones fault you get poor signal. Also, signal strength is improved in the 4.0.4 patch.
This phone may not have the most features forever, but that's the point. Nexus phones spur innovation in the other OEM's.
Sorry you're disappointed.
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I'm using the 4.04 leak now. CDMA Radio seems more stable. I get great LTE signal where I use my phone the most, so constantly switching radios hasn't been a problem, nor a major battery drain for me.
My problem was with CDMA flakiness when driving, but 4.04 seems to have stabilized that, which I did mention in my OP.
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bowsersoulstar said:
Funny, I came from a Thunderbolt and I thought it had decent battery. Will disagree on the fact that this Nexus is worse than that; it's been better (much better) compared to a Tbolt.
Whatever floats your boat though. One less battery thread then I guess.
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How is the VZW Nexus better than your Bolt? Please give an example on how the gnex battery usage is " much better," because I can stream music constantly while browsing or gaming for hours more on my Bolt than I can on my gnex.
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When I'm at school (5 days a week) most of my classes are in a building where I do not get a lot of reception, aka, my battery gets killed by the phone to keep up the signal. I do get reception, around 1-2 bars, but that still drains the battery extremely fast. Is there any app or something that I can do to help reduce the amount of battery drain?
I don't want to put the phone into air plane mode because I can still send and receive text messages, but it's just very slow.
Have you tried putting it in cdma only mode?
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You could save a lot of battery life by either connecting to a wifi hotspot (if available) or by turning off background data. The problem your phones having is that it has to turn the gain way up on its cellular radio in order to transmit and receive data. By reducing the amount of background data usage (or off loading it to another network with better signal--i.e. wifi) you'll save a lot of juice.
If you can't do either, there are some things you can do with Tasker to reduce data usage to windows of time instead of always on. May be something to consider.
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isinisterx said:
When I'm at school (5 days a week) most of my classes are in a building where I do not get a lot of reception, aka, my battery gets killed by the phone to keep up the signal. I do get reception, around 1-2 bars, but that still drains the battery extremely fast. Is there any app or something that I can do to help reduce the amount of battery drain?
I don't want to put the phone into air plane mode because I can still send and receive text messages, but it's just very slow.
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Drop it into 2G only or connect to WiFi.
taappel said:
Have you tried putting it in cdma only mode?
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He's in Canada, so using the GSM model.
Give juice defender a try. It used to almost double the battery life on my old X10 when I worked in a building that I could only get 1 bar at best.
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GreatBigDog said:
Give juice defender a try. It used to almost double the battery life on my old X10 when I worked in a building that I could only get 1 bar at best.
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JD sucks on the Nexus, unless it has gotten an update since last month.. WiFi doesn't want to reconnect. I've seen others say the same thing.
WiredPirate said:
JD sucks on the Nexus, unless it has gotten an update since last month.. WiFi doesn't want to reconnect. I've seen others say the same thing.
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yessss someone else with the wifi problem.when in like a perfect wifi signal zone, my friends gnex connect oerfectly and mine just says saved, wont connect to the networj
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I was thinking why the hell do we need this 4G /LTE speed anyway if it's going to be such a battery hog? I catch myself switching to 3G to preserve battery all the time and on 3G for almost 95% of the day. What do you use the LTE speed for that I'm missing out on? As much as I despise anything Apple, no wonder they aren't in any hurry to bring it to the iphone. If you' asked me it was a great ploy by verizon to increase speed and then get rid of unlimited plans to make more money.
Just ranting. Missing my thunderbolt's HUGE extended battery.
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I agree 100%. I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile and I think the HSPA+ speeds are sufficiently fast enough for what I do on the phone (browsing, Facebook, maybe watch an occasional video etc). 4G would just unnecessarily rape my battery.
In fact, I was a Sprint customer before and their poor excuse for "3G" was so slow, that I was floored when I got speeds up to 9-10mbps on T-Mobile as opposed to .98-1Mbps on Sprint.
I have a 3800 mah battery I bought for $20 on ebay, and it supports nfc. Problem solved. I use LTE for netflix, youtube, podcasts, ect. I could live without it, but it's insanely fast compared to vzw evdo 3g.
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That's almost like asking why we need high speed internet at home when dial-up did everything we needed.
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Im not going to say that 4g speeds are unnecessary or worthless but I dont use it. As I explained in another post the other day. We get great 3g coverage here and I can save alot of battery running 3g instead of 4g. With the exception of video everything works great. Video just needs a few extra seconds to buffer. But lets not blame 4g for getting rid of unlimited plans. Getting rid of unlimited was going to happen anyways.
DirgeExtinction- That's almost like asking why we need high speed internet at home when dial-up did everything we needed.
Almost? Not even close. There is no advantage to use 4g over 3g for 90% of the things your going to do on the internet. Assuming 3g coverage is as good as 4g your not going to pull a webpage up noticeably faster, Google Nav isnt going to run any better, and music streaming apps should be just fine. With your analogy even the most basic internet tasks were improved considerably. Do you even remember what dialup was like?
People said the same thing during the transition from Edge to 3G. "Where'd my battery go? 3G uses too much battery. I'm always going to keep it on Edge." The chipsets and batteries will catch up, and in a year or so, turning off LTE will seem as silly as "leaving it on Edge."
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People said the same thing during the transition from Edge to 3G. "Where'd my battery go? 3G uses too much battery. I'm always going to keep it on Edge." The chipsets and batteries will catch up, and in a year or so, turning off LTE will seem as silly as "leaving it on Edge."
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Thank you!
I couldn't have said it better than myself.
LTE is 1st gen tech in current devices. Of COURSE it has issues such as battery drain.
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Im not going to say that 4g speeds are unnecessary or worthless but I dont use it. As I explained in another post the other day. We get great 3g coverage here and I can save alot of battery running 3g instead of 4g. With the exception of video everything works great. Video just needs a few extra seconds to buffer. But lets not blame 4g for getting rid of unlimited plans. Getting rid of unlimited was going to happen anyways.
DirgeExtinction- That's almost like asking why we need high speed internet at home when dial-up did everything we needed.
Almost? Not even close. There is no advantage to use 4g over 3g for 90% of the things your going to do on the internet. Assuming 3g coverage is as good as 4g your not going to pull a webpage up noticeably faster, Google Nav isnt going to run any better, and music streaming apps should be just fine. With your analogy even the most basic internet tasks were improved considerably. Do you even remember what dialup was like?
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That is entirely subjective to the user.
And...yes, LTE DOES browse faster. You would be wrong there. Is it fast enough to matter? Once again, entirely subjective.
I can get where I need to go in a Hyundai Elantra. I rather do it in a Porsche.
Fyi, lte is not the 4g protocol.
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bk201doesntexist said:
Fyi, lte is not the 4g protocol.
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Yes it is.
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
As the most advanced technologies currently defined for global wireless mobile broadband communications, IMT-Advanced is considered as “4G”, although it is recognized that this term, while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed.
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Leave it on 4G and be done with it! Mine is on 4G all day long and the battery gets low... I charge it!
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Also, it is not just HYPE. Everything is MUCH better with 4G than with 3G.
Why the hype? Because it's fast, really fast. When your battery gets low, charge it.
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Excuses, excuses. Battery life was excellent, actually about as good as my Hspa+
nexus, using my old s2 skyrocket. If we don't need "lte", then we don't need
high speed internet at home either. Browsing, watching videos, etc.. is
substantially faster on Lte. With the certain exception of some phones, battery
life on Lte is not that bad, and will improve drastically with the newer releases this year.
If you don't think it's worth it, turn it off. Personally I think it's great and hate it when I'm in an area without it. It's not hype to me it makes everything better faster. The best part is, you can turn it off when you want better battery life.
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Have you USED the verizon 4g? Its soooooo ****ing fast. It even rivals the speed of the internet I get at home with comcast. When my brother is hogging the internet, I just switch to tether and use it on my home computer and it's awesome. Yes, it does eat up battery, and I usually switch it off if I'm going somewhere for an extended period of time. But when I'm actively using my phone, why would I not want to download at 2 megabytes per second?
Your ranting argument is hilarious...
Why do we need dual core smartphones, all it does is eat up battery...
I totally don't care about lte cause with hsdpa 42Mbps I'm fine with it. I'm sure at some point I'll change my mind. But I'm not looking forward to lte battery drain until the chip sets get smaller and more efficient in a few years.
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I totally don't care about lte cause with hsdpa 42Mbps I'm fine with it. I'm sure at some point I'll change my mind. But I'm not looking forward to lte battery drain until the chip sets get smaller and more efficient in a few years.
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Except that...the Galaxy Nexus doesn't support 42Mbps from Tmo.
If couldn't turn it off I could understand the *****ing, but you can. Problem solved. And that is the price you pay for adopting 1st/2nd Gen tech. You're making it cheaper and more efficient for us guys when we decide to go for it. I played a with a gs2 skyrocket today and was impressed it got 3 megabytes dl speed. Faster than my 1.5 megabyte cable internet hardwired. I wish I could test run it just to see how bad battery is but I'm cool with it. I would probably adopt lte faster if carriers gave us a decent amount bucket data plans for the price, not to mention tether for the same data. If I had something to ***** about it would be the measly data plan, with no tether, you get for $30 that you can go through in 30 minutes if you wanted. As a matter of fact you should. Adopting it early and then *****ing about a trivial problem instead of a real problem means you like getting bent over. And you happily paid for it when you got the phone. And you cant say you didn't because you knew there hasn't been a magic phone with lte. Yet. And I don't see apple pulling it off for at least another generation of lte phones.
bow chicka wow wow.
I guess I'm glad that it's there if I want it. But functionally, I've never once actually gone and toggled it on because I was doing something that I wanted more speed for. So maybe I'm not the target customer.
Like most things that service providers do in the public sphere, I think the excessive marketing that goes into the feature is a complete disservice to everyone, and I think the mindset that demands new features to be hyped up like this is a complete disservice to the industry. It's like some kind of trainwreck symbiosis. But the way the advertising wing of these companies is set up, a prominent suggestion that 4g is anything less than BLAZING FAST AND AWESOME is not going to happen.
I do think that the correct implementation of this on current phones should be prominently featured toggles to turn it on/off at will, instead of a setting buried under a few layers of menus. I remember when I first got my phone, there was no way to set a 4g toggle that just performed the function, instead of being a shortcut to that menu. Custom roms offer that. I wonder if Sense et al have these toggles built into them by default.
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Have you USED the verizon 4g? Its soooooo ****ing fast. It even rivals the speed of the internet I get at home with comcast. When my brother is hogging the internet, I just switch to tether and use it on my home computer and it's awesome. Yes, it does eat up battery, and I usually switch it off if I'm going somewhere for an extended period of time. But when I'm actively using my phone, why would I not want to download at 2 megabytes per second?
Your ranting argument is hilarious...
Why do we need dual core smartphones, all it does is eat up battery...
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ranting is not an argument. ranting is....well, ranting dude. It's my opinion. Not arguing anything.
And yes, I have used the LTE. I've used it since the very first day the Thunderbolt came out (first LTE phone). The point of my "argument" was that I (stress, I) really don't need it for anything I (again, I) do on my phone. Accessing info I need is fine on my 1.2 Mbit/s 3G speed.
The comparisons with home Internet speeds and dual core processors is rubbish. Totally different scenarios. CPU speed and home Internet is necessary. But please, don't tell me that we need 20+ Mbit/s on our phones to watch the latest viral video of the guy fingering his dog's nose on YouTube.
Here is another one for you, lets just get rid of this damn youtube.
I just wanted to see what people were wasting bandwidth on.
I do love the answer that hardware will catchup eventually and we don't have to "argue" these points.