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Notice to people using Titanium Backup to restore

Please stop using Titanium Backup to restore system files when you upgrade you ROM! Some system apps and settings are incompatible when newer ROMS. When I do backups I backup my user apps to one folder and system apps in another. This way I can just restore my user apps and their data in a batch restore but with the system files I only restore data to apps with the same version.
I make this thread because n00bs keep restoring everything including their incompatible system files and start to whine about the ROM being slow, apps FCing, and other assorted mishaps. I've already helped 2 n00b friends who had phones stuck in bootloop after doing full restore.

Which program would you suggest?
This is an interesting argument

I use Titanium Backup, I just don't restore system app data to incompatible apps.

I backup using apps + system data option.
In this case, system data refers to data that are related ONLY to apps right?
When I upgrade to gingerbread, you think it will cause problem??
Or, Should I only back up apps?
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[email protected] said:
I backup using apps + system data option.
In this case, system data refers to data that are related ONLY to apps right?
When I upgrade to gingerbread, you think it will cause problem??
Or, Should I only back up apps?
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When you backup user apps (the ones in white), you will backup the app + its settings and data.
When you backup system data (the ones in green), you are backing up only system settings, like SMS/MMS, Accounts, Calendar, Timezone, Phone logs, Wifi APN, etc.
When you backup system apps (the ones in red), you are backing up ONLY the settings and data for that app, not the app itself. THIS is what Intratech it asking you to NOT backup.
Why? Because the next ROM you install, will most likely have a different system app version than the one you previously had.
Usually:
Different apps == Different settings === problems

Heritz said:
When you backup user apps (the ones in white), you will backup the app + its settings and data.
When you backup system data (the ones in green), you are backing up only system settings, like SMS/MMS, Accounts, Calendar, Timezone, Phone logs, Wifi APN, etc.
When you backup system apps (the ones in red), you are backing up ONLY the settings and data for that app, not the app itself. THIS is what Intratech it asking you to NOT backup.
Why? Because the next ROM you install, will most likely have a different system app version than the one you previously had.
Usually:
Different apps == Different settings === problems
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So restoring the green ones should work fine? Especially the Application Widgets is important for me as it is much work to restore.
How to restore the red ones? Market + Samsung Apps?
If I do minor updates 2.2->2.2.1 is there the same recommendation to only restore user apps/data?
Thanks.

Why would you want to backup market and samsung apps?

I restore things like my APNs, contacts and SMS from system data using Titanium backup. Across a range of ROMs I've never had any issues, although I'm not restoring every bit of system data- just a select few.

Mikulec said:
Why would you want to backup market and samsung apps?
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It is faster to restore app's data than waiting for market to come up with updates and configure all manually.
Does system backup do a backup of new versions of system apps?

rickg99 said:
It is faster to restore app's data than waiting for market to come up with updates and configure all manually.
Does system backup do a backup of new versions of system apps?
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the market automatically downloads apps when you open it. personally, i do not back up my apps but instead use my internet connection to access the market and sownload all the apps back at one go. Q: Is the same service(auto download downloaded apps) on samsung apps?

Heritz said:
When you backup user apps (the ones in white), you will backup the app + its settings and data.
When you backup system data (the ones in green), you are backing up only system settings, like SMS/MMS, Accounts, Calendar, Timezone, Phone logs, Wifi APN, etc.
When you backup system apps (the ones in red), you are backing up ONLY the settings and data for that app, not the app itself. THIS is what Intratech it asking you to NOT backup.
Why? Because the next ROM you install, will most likely have a different system app version than the one you previously had.
Usually:
Different apps == Different settings === problems
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I do backup system data however I'm careful when restoring stuff. I check app version number and if they are different then I don't restore any app data for that.
The market doesn't automatically restore your user apps, that's why I restore those.

The market does auto download those apps that you have downloaded before but are not on your phone.

hello,
I know it's off topic, but can i just ask you a simple question?
when restoring with TB, does screen has to be on all the time?
because for me, when screen goes off, whole process stops and when I turn it back on, it resumes..
Is there an option available in TB where you can set to have screen off while restoring?
cheers

[email protected] said:
hello,
I know it's off topic, but can i just ask you a simple question?
when restoring with TB, does screen has to be on all the time?
because for me, when screen goes off, whole process stops and when I turn it back on, it resumes..
Is there an option available in TB where you can set to have screen off while restoring?
cheers
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Sure - in Settings or Options you can specify exactly this issue "WakeLocks Mode".
Kind regards,
ww

lamacow123 said:
The market does auto download those apps that you have downloaded before but are not on your phone.
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I never observed that

webwude said:
Sure - in Settings or Options you can specify exactly this issue "WakeLocks Mode".
Kind regards,
ww
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There's a bug with SGS and WakeLocks commands that TB never sorted and never supported or even gave feedback.
ScreenOn: will hang your screen On unless you reset phone
Keep CPU: screen bug is solved, but scheduled backups won't start in standby. They'll start later when you turn screen on. When screen is off, the will keep running (preferred setting for me)
Disbled: you'll have Keep CPU bug added with the pause of jobs when screen auto Off, as you expierience
To be on topic again, restoring green data is safe. Especially SMS, MMS, calendar and contacts data

For myself i duplicate apps folder on phone in case backup fails .
Root Explorer and copy APP file to sd card and or PC .
Backup fails then it just requires each app installing from the sd card .
jje

I don't think something so painfully obvious needed a thread.

lamacow123 said:
The market does auto download those apps that you have downloaded before but are not on your phone.
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Not on SGS roms
when you install CM7, it does

Furry Atom said:
I don't think something so painfully obvious needed a thread.
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I disagree because many guys get confused as to what system apps mean. I had this problem after I restored system apps a long time ago. Since then I don't backup my system apps at all but chose individual system apps like Maps, Gmail etc. to back up.

App data for backup/restore

Hi there,
Its the first time that i've had a Samsung phone, coming from iPhone > HTC ONE X > SN2.
i havent put in a MicroSD card yet, as its on its way to me soon.
So i presume that all the app that i downloaded from play store is stored on the OS memory?
In this case how can i put my whatsapp backups to? so that it can detect it and restore accordingly?
also need to do the same thing for my SMS & Call log apps.
help~

Use titanium backup to backup the files. Install TB on your new device and backup one thing (a single one you want). This will create a titaniumbackup in your root of the sd card.
In your old device search for the same folder and copy all the files there. Paste the in the new folder created on ur n7100.
Now, if you launch TB you should see the backups there, simply restore first only app and after only data. Thats it.
Don't forget to say thanks if this post helped you.
MobileFirmware.com addict and Nexus 4 user

[email protected]$Er said:
Use titanium backup to backup the files. Install TB on your new device and backup one thing (a single one you want). This will create a titaniumbackup in your root of the sd card.
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Youre telling the Root way to the dude...he isnt rooted, or may not want to root.
@OP: you will have to put the backups to /sdcard/whatsapp/databases
And for sms backup and restore, there is an app SMS Backup and Restore from Market. You can use thay

My contact was on google accounts, so they came back with sync
For call logs, SMS and MMS, i use MyBackup PRO or Titanium Backup (very useful, but not a very friendly app and root needed)
For apps, i use again MyBackup PRO or Titanium Backup, but if the phone is not root, you can't restore apps setting along with the app. And even with root, some games setting can't be restored. It's the case with all my Gameloft Game, i restore game, setting and even the big game data folder, but when i start the game, it's an all new game that start
It's really a pity there is no standard backup and restore app in Android, and that you must root your phone to do such a useful task But yeah, Android is for geek

Titanium Backup issues

It always gets stuck when trying to restore my apps. I have to go into the market, install the apps and then restore the data. Otherwise it just keeps saying trying to restore for hours on a single app. Tried in both batch and by selecting single apps. Never had a problem before this phone.
Second issue. I have a game, Bard's Tale that is around 4GB's large. I like to keep several backups but I don't want that app backup every time because it's size. I actually don't wish to backup the app at all, just the data. Is this possible because it is really taking away my space. 4GB's to play the game and 4GB's for every backup. I have other games that around 1 to 2 GB's in length with the same problem.

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Silent25r said:
It always gets stuck when trying to restore my apps. I have to go into the market, install the apps and then restore the data. Otherwise it just keeps saying trying to restore for hours on a single app. Tried in both batch and by selecting single apps. Never had a problem before this phone.
Second issue. I have a game, Bard's Tale that is around 4GB's large. I like to keep several backups but I don't want that app backup every time because it's size. I actually don't wish to backup the app at all, just the data. Is this possible because it is really taking away my space. 4GB's to play the game and 4GB's for every backup. I have other games that around 1 to 2 GB's in length with the same problem.
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1.Go to Setting / Apps / All / select Titanium Backup / Clear Data / Unistall / Reboot / Redownload it
Then,try again restore app with it
2.For The Bard's Tale, u just backing up the game with Titanium Backup, after that u just go to Sdcard and find Titanium Backup Folder, if u backup an app Titanium Backup will backup with 3 file ,
1st.App
2nd.App Data
3rd.Backup Log
so u just delete one of it!
Hope this could help u!
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jialong.david said:
1.Go to Setting / Apps / All / select Titanium Backup / Clear Data / Unistall / Reboot / Redownload it
Then,try again restore app with it
2.For The Bard's Tale, u just backing up the game with Titanium Backup, after that u just go to Sdcard and find Titanium Backup Folder, if u backup an app Titanium Backup will backup with 3 file ,
1st.App
2nd.App Data
3rd.Backup Log
so u just delete one of it!
Hope this could help u!
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I tried to clear data and uninstall and rebooting. But I'm still getting stuck in a neverending loop with some of the same apps during restore. My first time installing my apps on my GN2 I didn't even try to restore them via TB. Instead I used the market and just added the data to the ones I needed the data for so everything would work. However, now I'm noticing that the restore isn't working.
As for the second part dealing app and app data. I think it is stupid they don't give us any control over what gets backup. This makes me wish to have a second script that goes back behind TB and delete all the apps that I don't wish to keep in the backup.

Titanium Backup do not start

Hi guys, I would like to save my Apps and associated data using the Titanium BU.
I unlocked the Bootloader, installed TWRP 3.3.1-0924 (unoff.) and Magisk 19.2.
Device is: RN8P, MIUI Global 11.0.3 Stable, 11.0..3.0 (PGGEUXM)
Problem: I can install the Titanium App v8.04 or the v7 version. When the TitaniumBU trying to start, and there is some long error message (approx. 2 pages) that all list only Java errors.
Unfortunately, I have not tried the Titanium before (without TWRP and Magisk Root).
Now, I can not say whether it worked before this modification.
Question: Is there any Java settings in the MIUI settings. I didn't find anything in Settings / Developer mode. Maybe someone can help me. I just want to back up my data and the apps with Titanium. On my old Samsung it made a perfect job.
Thanks
regards wa2ld

I downloaded Titanium Backup from play store seemed to work perfectly fine for me.

I had trouble getting titanium backup to install from my backed up apk's but as JuanM2020 said, from the play store works fine. Only issue I have is I've noticed some apps fail to restore with titanium backup on my rn8pro, just hangs, doesn't matter which settings I change. Maybe 10% of my apps have to be manually installed from the play store and then I can restore "data only".

I did not have any issue installing Titanium backup I grabbed from apkmirror, latest version available.
Gave it root and done.
Tbh I had been looking in that solution to backup my apps due to TWRP issues with work profiles (second space) which I am using, and so far none of the apps I tried to backup and restore worked. It backed up the Apk yes (but I dont care about that I have backup of those already) but not once I could make a backup of the app data (well yes I made the backup) more precisely could not restore those apps userdatas. Simple thing I wanted to have my login passwords saved so it could be restore without having to retype them.
Whatsapp, telegram, protonmail and some others, restoration of userdata failed all times.
Still have not found any solution to backup and restore apps and their associated datas from both profiles. Fails on both.
It is likely working for some apps, but certainly not for the app I need it to work. Too bad for me.
Speaking of which is there a way to only backup OS settings alone (without all the apps) for like walpapers, colors, default apps, per app settings like notifications and such?
Thanks.

Question Best Backup Solution?

What is the best backup solution that can backup appdata and apps and system settings?

Google backup? I've been wondering this myself, but haven't found anything but Google's backup/restore. :|

For apps and their data, i suggest SwiftBackup. You connect it with your google account for cloud backup (paid) or create a local folder that you can tranfer to usb drive (free) and use it to restore back to your phone or any other device.
It also backs up call logs and messages and wifi networks.

jprattnu said:
Google backup? I've been wondering this myself, but haven't found anything but Google's backup/restore. :|
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Google backup doesn't backup all apps just Google apps just tried it.

IamTheBRAVE said:
For apps and their data, i suggest SwiftBackup. You connect it with your google account for cloud backup (paid) or create a local folder that you can tranfer to usb drive (free) and use it to restore back to your phone or any other device.
It also backs up call logs and messages and wifi networks.
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Thanks will try it out

I bricked/un-bricked my phone last night and successfully restored all apps and data with Migrate (NG version downloaded from their telegram channel). Not sure about system settings... I prefer a clean start with those so I didn't try.

IamTheBRAVE said:
For apps and their data, i suggest SwiftBackup. You connect it with your google account for cloud backup (paid) or create a local folder that you can tranfer to usb drive (free) and use it to restore back to your phone or any other device.
It also backs up call logs and messages and wifi networks.
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+1

Migrate is also a viable solution. I had a problem with their sdcard enabler on another phone so used swiftbackup instead. Very satisfied.

vangry2020 said:
What is the best backup solution that can backup appdata and apps and system settings?
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The best I've seen(must be root) Swift Backup(Google play store). You can back up messages, call logs, and most importantly apps, app data, ext data, system apps, ext data. Awesome app and easy to sync to dropbox, drive, etc.

IamTheBRAVE said:
For apps and their data, i suggest SwiftBackup. You connect it with your google account for cloud backup (paid) or create a local folder that you can tranfer to usb drive (free) and use it to restore back to your phone or any other device.
It also backs up call logs and messages and wifi networks.
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Thanks for this - Question - Can you still get all app & ext data without being rooted? (Yes I'm a root idiot, sorry)!

IamTheBRAVE said:
Migrate is also a viable solution. I had a problem with their sdcard enabler on another phone so used swiftbackup instead. Very satisfied.
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I had issues with Migrate on an older phone as well (OP 7Pro) , but so far on this phone it has been solid.
Does anyone know of any apps that can do incremental backups of only modified data? I've used Swift Backup but it doesn't seem to be an option. Swift has an option to back up only "updated apps" but I could care less whether the apk was updated... I'd like something that can back up only apps with modified data on a nightly basis, the way I used to do with Titanium Backup on earlier versions of Android.

jprattnu said:
Thanks for this - Question - Can you still get all app & ext data without being rooted? (Yes I'm a root idiot, sorry)!
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No don't think so.

terlynn4 said:
I had issues with Migrate on an older phone as well (OP 7Pro) , but so far on this phone it has been solid.
Does anyone know of any apps that can do incremental backups of only modified data? I've used Swift Backup but it doesn't seem to be an option. Swift has an option to back up only "updated apps" but I could care less whether the apk was updated... I'd like something that can back up only apps with modified data on a nightly basis, the way I used to do with Titanium Backup on earlier versions of Android.
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Did not see any option for that in the app. You can do it manually by renaming theold backup folder and redoing existing backup option. I think that would work.

IamTheBRAVE said:
Did not see any option for that in the app. You can do it manually by renaming theold backup folder and redoing existing backup option. I think that would work.
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Wouldn't that just back up everything again? Or maybe I don't follow what you mean.

terlynn4 said:
Wouldn't that just back up everything again? Or maybe I don't follow what you mean.
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Yes, back up everything again but since you rename the old backup folder you end up with 2 incremental backup. At least that how i see it but it would be a pain to do that if you want nighly backups.
The only other idea may be to set a scheduled backup (paid). Just took a look, it say you can have customisable backups in premium (which i don't have) maybe someone can tell us what that contains?

IamTheBRAVE said:
Yes, back up everything again but since you rename the old backup folder you end up with 2 incremental backup. At least that how i see it but it would be a pain to do that if you want nighly backups.
The only other idea may be to set a scheduled backup (paid). Just took a look, it say you can have customisable backups in premium (which i don't have) maybe someone can tell us what that contains?
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You're talking about multiple backups, I'm talking about incremental/differential backups, where only modified data is backed up. The purpose is for smaller size and faster backups so they can be run daily or even multiple times a day. I save my backups to google drive and "all apps" is about 20 GB for me. It's insane to upload that much every single night when most of it hasn't changed, but I want my backups always up to date for the next time my phone is bricked unexpectedly. I do have premium, but the option to back up only modified data isn't there. I'm looking for an app that can do that, like Titanium Backup did flawlessly.