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I've visited eBay and many other online stores that offer the Tilt2 anywhere from $470 to as much as $730 for the same phone. What's the maximum I should pay, and or should I wait till after Jan 1, in hopes that prices will drop? I currently have the AT&T tilt, and after 2 terrific yrs of trying out different cooked ROMs I'm now ready to upgrade to the Tilt2. Your thoughts and suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.
Did you check craigslist.org?
$500 is retail. You should never pay a dime over that.
As to price drops, it's just a question of how much of a hurry you're in. You can play the wait and see game until the phone is obsolete, and in the end, when you do buy it, the price will drop the next day.
The Tilt2 is one of the newest of the TP2 versions, and so far, although the secondary market has seen the TMo version erode in price, even it (the earliest US branded version) hasn't had a real price drop (although it technically retailed at $550 on launch, it was sold at $500 from the start at some retailers). The int'l unlocked version released a few months earlier dropped from $720+ to about $600 after around 4-5 months.
Since there are a number of landscape WVGA winmo devices, it's possible that competition might drag the price down faster than usual, but then again, it might not. Holiday sales might be good, or they might not.
http://walmart.letstalk.com/product/product.htm?prId=35844
free after rebate with 2 year contract.
Nothing is free. With those contract deals you need to pay for a certain plan. Keep this in mind, for every $10 a month your bill goes up, that is $240 over the life of your plan.
I just bought a Tilt2 at an AT&T store for $500. I figured I am going to save money in the long run because the only way I could get the phone on a contract was to increase my monthly bill by a minimum of $15, or $360 over 2 years. + The $200 for the phone = $560.
This way I can also resell my phone and move to another company like T-Mobile when they get the HD2.
To answer the OP, $500 is retail, you can walk into an AT&T store and just say you want to buy the phone as a gift. Do NOT give them your phone # or account. Just say you are not even an AT&T customer and the phone is for a friend/family.
Brickcity said:
Did you check craigslist.org?
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Yes, I have. After you suggested it. But I was surprised to find that of the 5 offers in my local area for this item, 3 were more than the $480 average buy now price listed on ebay. The other 2 were used, and had minor damages to one of them, and the other was without the software CD. Besides, with all the recent negative activity from former craigslist buyers in the news media these days, I'm a bit aprehensive about meeting someone face to face to broker a deal. But good suggestion. Thanks.
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Nothing is free. With those contract deals you need to pay for a certain plan. Keep this in mind, for every $10 a month your bill goes up, that is $240 over the life of your plan.
I just bought a Tilt2 at an AT&T store for $500. I figured I am going to save money in the long run because the only way I could get the phone on a contract was to increase my monthly bill by a minimum of $15, or $360 over 2 years. + The $200 for the phone = $560.
This way I can also resell my phone and move to another company like T-Mobile when they get the HD2.
To answer the OP, $500 is retail, you can walk into an AT&T store and just say you want to buy the phone as a gift. Do NOT give them your phone # or account. Just say you are not even an AT&T customer and the phone is for a friend/family.
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Your logic is very sound. If I upgrade my current contract it will cost me an additional $22/mo, plus $200 for the phone. If I buy the phone thru them w/o a contract it will cost me $540. After watching the prices that ebay buyers have been paying for this phone over the last 4 days the going rate is from $425 to $460. I would come out better just buying it from ebay and keeping my current contract. Thanks for the tip.
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http://walmart.letstalk.com/product/product.htm?prId=35844
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I checked out your link, which is thru Walmart Wireless. It is only free if I enter into a new 2yr contract with them. I would have to cancel my current contract and pay the penalties which is rediculous. If I upgrade my current contract the phone would cost me $99 plus the additional increase of $22/mo for 2yr. It's still cheaper to buy the phone thru ebay. Like Pops_G says, " Nothing is free!"
I just got the best buy insurance plan last tuesday because my phone fell n i got chips on it >.>.
but than decided if i get a full body screen protector plus a case(case on the way from ebay =D) i dont think ill be needing the best buy one.
because it is 10$ a month... do you guys think its worth it.
btw is the zagg full max worth it because i am getting it for 12 dollars..
read my post here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741045&page=6
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Just think, if you keep your phone two years... $240 on insurance.
Half the cost of the phone.
It's almost ALWAYS a better investment to spend the $20 on a case and then pocket the $10/mo into your own personal "insurance fund".
True.. Because today im going to best buy n decide there.
Well wht about the att one.. How does it par even though it has deductibles
acandia007 said:
True.. Because today im going to best buy n decide there.
Well wht about the att one.. How does it par even though it has deductibles
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$125 deductible... $5 a month is half as much, so $120 over two years. $120+$125= $245
It's a wash but based on the fact the BB doesn't have deductibles it might be cheaper if you have to replace it twice.
But all in all, you can insure yourself to death, I vote just get a $20 case and call it good.
you guys are funny.......
www.squaretrade.com
and stop overpaying for insurance on electronics!!!! use www.RetailMeNot.com to get coupon codes, seriously people.......
I have it because cases are gay.
GarciaM25 said:
you guys are funny.......
www.squaretrade.com
and stop overpaying for insurance on electronics!!!! use www.RetailMeNot.com to get coupon codes, seriously people.......
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ST only insures the money spent on the device, not the device itself. Check facts before posting.
Also, BB warranties obviously only apply to BB purchased devices.
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ST only insures the money spent on the device, not the device itself. Check facts before posting.
Also, BB warranties obviously only apply to BB purchased devices.
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ummmmmm, WHAT? so you're telling me that when my TyTN II died the first time under SquareTrade's warranty and I paid $750 for it, giving me back $750 after a year and a half was........ not what I wanted? Check YOUR facts before rambling....
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ummmmmm, WHAT? so you're telling me that when my TyTN II died the first time under SquareTrade's warranty and I paid $750 for it, giving me back $750 after a year and a half was........ not what I wanted? Check YOUR facts before rambling....
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I bought my Captivate on a pricing error for $299.
Guess how much SquareTrade will cover? $299. If my device dies, they'll cut me a check for $299 because the retail $499 price is too expensive.
So check YOUR facts, please.
Let's also assume a $499 device had a $300 repair done to it. They devalue your coverage by that much, so now you've only got $199 left. So now let's say your device breaks completely. Well, you've only got $199 coverage left, they'll cut you a check for $199 and you're SOL on the rest.
Again, like I said earlier, they insure your money invested, not the device. So please stop talking out of your ass when you have no idea.
Insurance is always offered at a rate which would make the provider money. So no, you couldn't convince me that any phone insurance out there is "worth it."
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I bought my Captivate on a pricing error for $299.
Guess how much SquareTrade will cover? $299. If my device dies, they'll cut me a check for $299 because the retail $499 price is too expensive.
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CLOSE, but they don't cover the $299 because $499 is too expensive, moron, they cover it because THAT'S WHAT YOU PAID! You don't go to the dealership and buy a $40K car then tell your insurance company "well, it's worth $80K, but I got a good deal on it because of a pricing error" - sucks you couldn't buy it for $275 like everyone else who early upgraded
How do you think insurance works? Seriously, what the hell.....
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Let's also assume a $499 device had a $300 repair done to it. They devalue your coverage by that much, so now you've only got $199 left. So now let's say your device breaks completely. Well, you've only got $199 coverage left, they'll cut you a check for $199 and you're SOL on the rest.
Again, like I said earlier, they insure your money invested, not the device. So please stop talking out of your ass when you have no idea.
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Where are you getting this information from??? Here's how it REALLY works since you're just going to make up whatever the hell you want here..... I bought a $750 TyTN II and insured it for the full amount I paid. After a year and a half, my keyboard buttons started sticking - called them up, they said they could fix it in 5 days or refund my purchase price if they couldn't (the full $750!), just how it states on their website. They sent the phone back with the Tilt keyboard instead, and the buttons were in the wrong place, so I sent it back to fix it right or pay me the $750. They couldn't get the keyboard in the 5 days, so they sent me $750 back to my PayPal account!!!!!! Furthermore, since they screwed up, they also added in the purchase price of the warranty which they have NO problems doing (they refunded it back to me on a separate occasion too, but your little brain can't process that much info all at once). Directly from their website:
100% Parts & Labor Coverage with Zero Deductibles.
We pay you full item cost if item can't be fixed.
A $50 deductible applies on ADH-related claims for Cell Phones only.
Reimburse: For most items below $500, or it's going to take too long or is too expensive to fix, we'll pay you the replacement price of your item. We give you a free shipping label to make it easy to send in your item. Once you've shipped your item to our service depot, we will repair it within 3-5 days and then ship it back to you at no cost to you.
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So WHERE do you get the fact that once they do a service (replace my keyboard) that they deduct the money involved in the service??? They cancel the warranty if your plan requires a refund of the purchase price of the device, but that has NOTHING to do with subtracting the amount of money spent in repairs........
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CLOSE, but they don't cover the $299 because $499 is too expensive, moron, they cover it because THAT'S WHAT YOU PAID!
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Exactly like I originally stated. They warrant the amount invested but not the device.
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You are such a BS'er - where are you getting this information from???
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How about their own terms?
Now maybe perhaps you can shut the hell up and go back to being ignorant.
Mechanical and electrical failures that occur during normal use of your item. Your item is covered for up to the full purchase price of your item (tax and shipping are excluded).
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The total value of your warranty is in most cases equal to the purchase price of your item. For every valid claim filed against your item for which we provide repair services, the total value of your coverage is reduced by the cost of the repair services rendered. In the event a valid claim is filed with us and repair costs are estimated to exceed the current value of your warranty - the balance of your warranty value will be offered instead.
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In the case of Squaretrade, you can always go up to the $599 device plan and they will pay for your $499 device if need be.
They have multiple tiers. I'm thinking of getting the middle tier for their smartphones and if I need to, and I'll pay the difference if it's above that amount to replace that phone.
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In the case of Squaretrade, you can always go up to the $599 device plan and they will pay for your $499 device if need be.
They have multiple tiers. I'm thinking of getting the middle tier for their smartphones and if I need to, and I'll pay the difference if it's above that amount to replace that phone.
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Wrong.
What part of "Your item is covered for up to the full purchase price" do you not understand?
In the case of subsidy, the "full purchase price" will be the MSRP (which is shown on your receipt), but outside of that "full purchase price" is the amount paid.
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I have it because cases are gay.
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Me too
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I have no case and no insurance.... I will deal with things as they happen. I hate cases, and I find the cost of insurance to high; over the 2 year life of the phone contract I would be paying for a second phone (at subsidized rates).
No other products have such high insurance rates. You don't pay $20,000 in insurance fees over the loan period of a car (5 years) or even over the normal usage duration (10 years) of a car.
But small personal electronics are lost and dropped in toilets all the time (apparently) so the insurance companies have to be able to cover all these people and not go out of business.
The best strategy is to buy these things when they are 6 months old and get the By One Get One offer - then you have a backup.
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Wrong.
What part of "Your item is covered for up to the full purchase price" do you not understand?
In the case of subsidy, the "full purchase price" will be the MSRP (which is shown on your receipt), but outside of that "full purchase price" is the amount paid.
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Insurance at $144 or so covers $599 via their Premium Smartphone insurance. You paid $499 for the Captivate without subsidy. Last I checked, $499 is less than $599.
So you would be covered for $499 when/if the need arises.
ill try to be impartial answering this. yes its worth it. 240 over 2 years may be half the price of the phone, but thats still less than full price of the phone if you want to buy it outright after destroying it.
no deductible, no limit to claims. only thing my customers dislike is the wait time while it is out for service, an issue for most customers and not wanting to put money down on a loaner phone. shouldnt be an issue with the common XDA forum poster...we all have tons of phones lying around we can use in the meantime.
i get a wicked good discount on phones through work and I dont pay any cell bills and i have the 4 major carriers. and i still get the Black tie protection on all my phones
I have the best buy insurance as well and I chipped my phone, think I can get a new one? Ha.
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Went online to buy the Galaxy SIII as Baltimore is not one of the top 30 markets included in T-mobiles launch of the "new Jesus phone".
I was forced to switch to a classic plan , previously had an even more plan for about the same features and cost but them when I looked at the pricing I see that T-mobile sells the phone for $80 more than Sprint, ATT and Verizon are for both the subsidized price and the full retail price.
What gives? Did I just sign up for a 2 new year contract only to be scammed into dishing out more money to T-mobile?
BTW, the Pebble Blue 32GB version is still backordered online.
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Went online to buy the Galaxy SIII as Baltimore is not one of the top 30 markets included in T-mobiles launch of the "new Jesus phone".
I was forced to switch to a classic plan , previously had an even more plan for about the same features and cost but them when I looked at the pricing I see that T-mobile sells the phone for $80 more than Sprint, ATT and Verizon are for both the subsidized price and the full retail price.
What gives? Did I just sign up for a 2 new year contract only to be scammed into dishing out more money to T-mobile?
BTW, the Pebble Blue 32GB version is still backordered online.
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By the phone outright. Pay full price, and sign up for a $30 a month plan, bring your own device. This, although contrary to popular opinion, is EASILY the most cost effective route. If you can not pay $650 for a phone outright, then you have a tough choice to make if you want instant gratification.
I just bought mine, and it was $300 after mail in rebate. I am annoyed to, but there is nothing I could do about it.
I'm a little annoyed too and will be watching T-Mobile closely. If they they have some super-Sale of July 4th (which is within the 14 day return policy) I hope they don't put up a fight.
In general, all prices should be good for 30 days on any product, with no-hassle price adjustments.
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By the phone outright. Pay full price, and sign up for a $30 a month plan, bring your own device. This, although contrary to popular opinion, is EASILY the most cost effective route. If you can not pay $650 for a phone outright, then you have a tough choice to make if you want instant gratification.
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Well, if you need a data plan however and you're paying for it anyway I think it's better to get the device subsidized.
My last phone was the Galaxy S and I paid $500 with a $30 plan at the time. A year later, I realized I needed more talk time, mobile email I added a data plan as well. Now it doesn't make sense to pay full retail for the phone.
My biggest issue is even the full retail price from T-mobile is $80 more than other carriers. Is that the premium we have to pay for getting the phone from the carrier who had the device on the market before the other? (even though they were the last to make an announcements).
that part still doesn't make sense... 3 other carriers are selling the exact same phone for substantially cheaper. Why are TMo's prices hiked up?
free 50GB Dropbox isn't so free?
could it be they are trying to make us pay for the free 50GB dropbox by charging us $80 more?
The T-Mob version should be roughly the same as the ATT version. Unless the radio for the 42 MBps data is significantly more costly than whatever radio ATT uses, I don't see where the difference should be.
Even so, if I had $700, I'd be buying one outright today. My Vibrant would become a dev/backup device with no looking back.
Although I want one VERY badly, I am kinda glad that I am going to have to wait a bit more before I can afford it. This way I can monitor the S III topic here and see if there are any lurking issues before I buy.
I called customer care and they gave me a full months credit to get and use the savings to buy my phone
I would talk to rententions if you want to see if you can get a better deal. Depending on how long you've been with them, how long you've been out of contract, etc, they may be able to get you a better deal. The key is to be nice to them.
I already posted in the stickied thread, but I'll repost here:
Well, T-mobile continues to amaze me in a good way. Of course I was disappointed as everyone else with T-mobile's pricing, so I thought I'd give retention a call and see if they could do something.
I was really nice about it. I just said I'm looking to upgrade my phone from a Vibrant (I paid full price on the Vibrant, so I haven't been on contract for a long time). I've waited a long time to upgrade and I'm disappointed with the pricing. That's it. I wasn't rude or anything, just laid it out there.
The rep apologized for my disappointment and then she offered the following with no hesitation:
1. $200 credit to offset the cost of the phone. The credit has been applied to my account.
2. She said she could give me 500 more minutes on my plan AND reduce my monthly bill by $15.
3. She said I could pick it up in any store for $279.99 or call back on the 27th when they get them in their system at Customer Care.
4. I had overage on my bill for the first time. $100 worth. She took care of that too!
Bottom line, she gave me the phone for $79.99, saved me money on my monthly bill, AND wiped off overage.
Can't wait to get my S III once it's readily available. I won't mind the wait.
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I would talk to rententions if you want to see if you can get a better deal. Depending on how long you've been with them, how long you've been out of contract, etc, they may be able to get you a better deal. The key is to be nice to them.
I already posted in the stickied thread, but I'll repost here:
Well, T-mobile continues to amaze me in a good way. Of course I was disappointed as everyone else with T-mobile's pricing, so I thought I'd give retention a call and see if they could do something.
I was really nice about it. I just said I'm looking to upgrade my phone from a Vibrant (I paid full price on the Vibrant, so I haven't been on contract for a long time). I've waited a long time to upgrade and I'm disappointed with the pricing. That's it. I wasn't rude or anything, just laid it out there.
The rep apologized for my disappointment and then she offered the following with no hesitation:
1. $200 credit to offset the cost of the phone. The credit has been applied to my account.
2. She said she could give me 500 more minutes on my plan AND reduce my monthly bill by $15.
3. She said I could pick it up in any store for $279.99 or call back on the 27th when they get them in their system at Customer Care.
4. I had overage on my bill for the first time. $100 worth. She took care of that too!
Bottom line, she gave me the phone for $79.99, saved me money on my monthly bill, AND wiped off overage.
Can't wait to get my S III once it's readily available. I won't mind the wait.
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I'm certainly going to have to do this Thanks for the tip!
To be clear, which number did you call exactly though? haha
Xenoism said:
I'm certainly going to have to do this Thanks for the tip!
To be clear, which number did you call exactly though? haha
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611. Asked for retentions when I got someone on the line.
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611. Asked for retentions when I got someone on the line.
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Much appreciated my friend ^^
Maverick777 said:
I would talk to rententions if you want to see if you can get a better deal.
2. She said she could give me 500 more minutes on my plan AND reduce my monthly bill by $15.
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Hi!
I have a question to ask you, what type of plan are you on and is T-Mobile reducing your plan by $15.00 a month by giving you a $15.00 a month credit for two years, for example? Thanks!
What I think everyone fails to realize is T-Mobile has the best rates out of all carriers and you still end up saving even with the extra your spending on the device. T-Mobile takes that into account when pricing devices. So overall its not really all bad. Just seems like it when your dropping all that money up front.
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for those of you who did call retentions, did you do so before or after ordering the phone? I ordered the 32gb pebble blue online, and after taxes and fees and whatnot, it came out to a little under 450... that seems quite high to me fore some reason.
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for those of you who did call retentions, did you do so before or after ordering the phone? I ordered the 32gb pebble blue online, and after taxes and fees and whatnot, it came out to a little under 450... that seems quite high to me fore some reason.
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Doesn't sound high for 32gb they start at 379 before taxes, shipping and upgrade/activison fees.
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Doesn't sound high for 32gb they start at 379 before taxes, shipping and upgrade/activison fees.
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Think they could still waive my activation if I was an angel to them? I'm just a student, lol. 450 stings a bit, but its looking like it'll definitely be worth it.
That's the same amount you would pay at amazon and on the go solutions but you get a bonus when buying from on the go solutions it will come rooted if I was to spend $700 on a phone that would be the choice I would make the international version are way better
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for some reason, I was given a 6 months full upgrade without any notification. Would really love to get this but, the price on this is insane. Anyone walking into a target, bestbuy or any local chain will see 4 galaxy s3. who in their right mind would pick the tmobile at 90$ more? I was told by a support rep that their computer currently doesn't reflect the real value, so this is probably some release day insanity. they will probably automatically credit the difference, or at least i would hope so.
I am with Sprint under my dads account. It is a family plan with my sister, my dad and I. Heres my question, I just want to know if I can order safely from Wirefly without any fuse, in other words, they will send me my phone without attempting to change our plan, rise our bill or anything like that. I just want to upgrade my phone to the Galaxy Nexus with the same plan intact, nothing change. The reason I am asking this is because I once tried to order a phone from Amazon (at the same price of a normal upgrade), and they wanted me to get a brand new number and plan.
Thanks for your help.
P.S. I cant believe they are selling this phone for 50 bucks. I am awed ._.
Anyone?
it is only that price with a contract. they will make you sign up for 2yr sprint contract before selling you the phone.
yup confirmed
$49.99
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look right under the price tag in small writing
Darunion said:
it is only that price with a contract. they will make you sign up for 2yr sprint contract before selling you the phone.
yup confirmed
$49.99
with a new Sprint account
look right under the price tag in small writing
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Wow, I dont know how I missed that. lol
Thank you.
DO NOT buy from wirefly. There are too many problems with that company to list them all here.
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I am with Sprint under my dads account. It is a family plan with my sister, my dad and I. Heres my question, I just want to know if I can order safely from Wirefly without any fuse, in other words, they will send me my phone without attempting to change our plan, rise our bill or anything like that. I just want to upgrade my phone to the Galaxy Nexus with the same plan intact, nothing change. The reason I am asking this is because I once tried to order a phone from Amazon (at the same price of a normal upgrade), and they wanted me to get a brand new number and plan.
Thanks for your help.
P.S. I cant believe they are selling this phone for 50 bucks. I am awed ._.
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Hello latindor17: Wirefly can certainly upgrade your phone without changing your plan or the amount you pay every month (provided you’re not on an old grandfathered rate plan the carrier no longer offers, in which case you may be asked to choose a current rate plan – but if that were the case, Wirefly would always contact you for approval before proceeding with your order). Darunion is correct that you will need you renew your contract for 2 years in order to be eligible for the price on the website, but you do not need to get a new number, you may keep your existing number without a problem. There are no other hidden fees or charges, as long as you maintain your account in good standing (and don’t downgrade your plan) within 6 months of your activation date. For more information on this, please see http://www.wirefly.com/about/low-phone-prices/?referringdomain=wirefly&oflag=specialoffer.
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DO NOT buy from wirefly. There are too many problems with that company to list them all here.
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What? I used Wirefly to get a Galaxy SIII as an upgrade on my T-Mobile account with absolutely no issues. They simply checked to see if I was eligible for an upgrade and once they verified that I was I purchased a Galaxy SIII as an upgrade for $200. They did not screw with my plan at all.
It was much cheaper than going through T-Mobile directly ($379 for the phone at the time) and they shipped the phone extremely fast. I'd use them again in a heartbeat.
** I should mention that I have since sold the Galaxy SIII and reverted back to the GNex because it just wasn't the same. But that's neither here nor there. :highfive:
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Hello latindor17: Wirefly can certainly upgrade your phone without changing your plan or the amount you pay every month (provided you’re not on an old grandfathered rate plan the carrier no longer offers, in which case you may be asked to choose a current rate plan – but if that were the case, Wirefly would always contact you for approval before proceeding with your order). Darunion is correct that you will need you renew your contract for 2 years in order to be eligible for the price on the website, but you do not need to get a new number, you may keep your existing number without a problem. There are no other hidden fees or charges, as long as you maintain your account in good standing (and don’t downgrade your plan) within 6 months of your activation date. For more information on this, please see http://www.wirefly.com/about/low-phone-prices/?referringdomain=wirefly&oflag=specialoffer.
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What Ms. Kim said here is exactly why you SHOULDN'T go with wirefly or any other similar service. They make you sign an additional contract, apparently in this case for 6 months, that has NOTHING to do with Sprint. Well, technically it does since it stipulates you must stay with Sprint for 6 months, but this contract isn't with Sprint.
So, if you move, find a better deal, find a reason to terminate without an ETF, etc., you're still on the hook with this company for 6 months. If you like buying through a 3rd party, I think Best Buy and Radioshak both still don't require this anti-consumer tactic.
Wow. I didn't realize that when I did it. Luckily if you plan on sticking with your current contract for more than 6 months this won't effect you (like most people). But it would be quite annoying if you did need to switch carriers quicker than expected.
Good to know.
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What Ms. Kim said here is exactly why you SHOULDN'T go with wirefly or any other similar service. They make you sign an additional contract, apparently in this case for 6 months, that has NOTHING to do with Sprint. Well, technically it does since it stipulates you must stay with Sprint for 6 months, but this contract isn't with Sprint.
So, if you move, find a better deal, find a reason to terminate without an ETF, etc., you're still on the hook with this company for 6 months. If you like buying through a 3rd party, I think Best Buy and Radioshak both still don't require this anti-consumer tactic.
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what reason could you find to terminate without an ETF though? as far as i know death is the only exception..and sometimes that doesnt even work
the stipulation (as i understand it) is that you just have to hold your end of the bargain for 6 months (something you already agreed to with your carrier by signing a 2 year anyway)...the reason for the 6 months is because thats the contract they have with the carriers..they recruit or keep customers for carriers and pass on the commission to us (which is why they can sell the phones cheaper)
its not like they are going to kill you if you break the wirefly contract..you just end up paying retail for the phone...as long as you are certain about the phone and plan that you are purchasing i dont see a problem...if you have buyers remorse or you don't do your homework and want to cut the cord..then yeah...you're gonna pay for it..thats kinda what happens when you break any contract (cell phone or otherwise)
i have been researching this company as well...reading customer comments and their fine print..im thinking about upgrading to the Note 2 through them...$300 as opposed to $420 with tmobile ($370 AFTER mail in rebate)
if kim from wirefly is still reading this...the phone is listed as $300 (for upgrades)...do you know what the end cost is gonna be? is it $300? or is there gonna be upgrade fees and tax and my first born?
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if kim from wirefly is still reading this...the phone is listed as $300 (for upgrades)...do you know what the end cost is gonna be? is it $300? or is there gonna be upgrade fees and tax and my first born?
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I'm pretty sure no additional tax is charged on top of the listed price. I think T-Mobile charged me an upgrade fee but instantly credited it back to me on my next bill.
Morphling27 said:
What Ms. Kim said here is exactly why you SHOULDN'T go with wirefly or any other similar service. They make you sign an additional contract, apparently in this case for 6 months, that has NOTHING to do with Sprint. Well, technically it does since it stipulates you must stay with Sprint for 6 months, but this contract isn't with Sprint.
So, if you move, find a better deal, find a reason to terminate without an ETF, etc., you're still on the hook with this company for 6 months. If you like buying through a 3rd party, I think Best Buy and Radioshak both still don't require this anti-consumer tactic.
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Hello Morphling,
Our 181 day rule is based on a contractual agreement that we have with the carriers. We don't get compensated for a sale from the carrier until after this time frame has been met. All 3rd party dealers have a stipulation period that customers must abide by even though the terms and conditions can vary from company to company, this is an industry standard. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.
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what reason could you find to terminate without an ETF though? as far as i know death is the only exception..and sometimes that doesnt even work
the stipulation (as i understand it) is that you just have to hold your end of the bargain for 6 months (something you already agreed to with your carrier by signing a 2 year anyway)...the reason for the 6 months is because thats the contract they have with the carriers..they recruit or keep customers for carriers and pass on the commission to us (which is why they can sell the phones cheaper)
its not like they are going to kill you if you break the wirefly contract..you just end up paying retail for the phone...as long as you are certain about the phone and plan that you are purchasing i dont see a problem...if you have buyers remorse or you don't do your homework and want to cut the cord..then yeah...you're gonna pay for it..thats kinda what happens when you break any contract (cell phone or otherwise)
i have been researching this company as well...reading customer comments and their fine print..im thinking about upgrading to the Note 2 through them...$300 as opposed to $420 with tmobile ($370 AFTER mail in rebate)
if kim from wirefly is still reading this...the phone is listed as $300 (for upgrades)...do you know what the end cost is gonna be? is it $300? or is there gonna be upgrade fees and tax and my first born?
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Hello jdiddy_ub,
The carrier will charge you an upgrade fee but this is only paid once on the first billing cycle following the upgrade. The taxes for the service is assessed by the carrier and varies depending on where you live. If you are keeping the same rate plan then your taxes should not be any different then what you are currently paying now. Let me know if I can answer any further questions.
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Hello Morphling,
Our 181 day rule is based on a contractual agreement that we have with the carriers. We don't get compensated for a sale from the carrier until after this time frame has been met. All 3rd party dealers have a stipulation period that customers must abide by even though the terms and conditions can vary from company to company, this is an industry standard. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.
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Hello jdiddy_ub,
The carrier will charge you an upgrade fee but this is only paid once on the first billing cycle following the upgrade. The taxes for the service is assessed by the carrier and varies depending on where you live. If you are keeping the same rate plan then your taxes should not be any different then what you are currently paying now. Let me know if I can answer any further questions.
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I'm not asking about the tax for service.. i am asking about tax from the cost of the phone
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Buy it from costco wireless. $39.99 upgrade. No extra etf and they refund the $36 upgrafe fee. 90 day exchange. Dont even think you have to be a member.
I've read the Worth Ave thread but I am going to pass on the college plus despite what the phone operator told me since it is clearly stated on their website that you must be a student or employee of colleges or universities.
So for Accidental smartphone coverage:
Worth Ave : $59/year with $50 deductible with no limits on number of incidents. Not sure if there is only one replacement allowed per year.
Cons: maximum of $599, no normal wear and tear or mechanical breakdown, ONLY accidental drops, spills and theft. No claims if you simply lost your phone.
Gocare insurance: $59/year with $50 deductible with no limits on number of incidents. One replacement device during the coverage term. Said it will cover jailbroken phone so I would assume rooted phone also. Coverage seems to be very comprehensive but no theft or loss coverage.
Square trade: one year is $69 two year is $99(cheaper at Amazon, $125 at square trade site) $99 deductible. One replacement per coverage term. Each accidental claim is deducted from full replacement value of phone. A little ambiguity since when I read the contract, it said PURCHASED PRICE not full replacement cost.
Squaretrade:
Given the $99 deductible and the fact that if you paid for 2 years for squaretrade, and the fact that each time you have a claim, the cost of the claim is deducted from the maximum value, I do not think that the squaretrade deal is a good deal. If you choose the $6.99/month, you still have to pay for all 24 months if you made any claim. Also suppose you need a replacement 3 months after your coverage starts, you are out $99 plus $99 and you will not have any more coverage on the replacement device since you exhausted the maximum value.
Gocare:
For $59/year with $50 deductible, I think this is a better plan. Each incident whether it requires replacement or repair is $50 not $99. Also if your phone is not repairable during the first year, you are out only $59+$50 instead of $198 if you had square trade. Also you can repair as often as you like. Crack screen twice, $100. With Squaretrade, two crack screens and you are out $198 plus you probably can't submit another claim ever on that policy if the actual screen replacement cost is half the phone cost.
Either way, it is cheaper and wiser to buy one year instead of two year. Buying one year at a time will allow one replacement each year for the worst case.
I want to hear your thoughts but looks like I am going to pull the trigger on gocare insurance.
I can confirm I claimed on square trade and was given the full retail amount to purchase a new phone
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I went with Squaretrade because of their good reviews on Amazon, etc.
I have Sprint's insurance currently, but for 11 dollars a month, with a 150 deductible, I wanted to try something else.
The problem with what you said, buying 1 year at a time, is that I dont believe with Squaretrade you can do that. My understanding is that you have to buy it within the first 30 days of purchasing your phone.
So does Gocare cover loss or theft? It sounds like the best deal, but lost or stolen is important to me.
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I went with Squaretrade because of their good reviews on Amazon, etc.
I have Sprint's insurance currently, but for 11 dollars a month, with a 150 deductible, I wanted to try something else.
The problem with what you said, buying 1 year at a time, is that I dont believe with Squaretrade you can do that. My understanding is that you have to buy it within the first 30 days of purchasing your phone.
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That is true, forgot about the 30 days.
GoCare doesn't care if your smartphone is new so you can just buy another one after the first year ends. Neither GoCare nor square trade covers theft or loss but I believe Sprint does.
Worth Ave group covers theft but probably requires a police report. It does not cover lost.
I took a chance and bought the $2000 coverage from Worth Ave group for a year since it is a blanket coverage of all your devices up to $2000. Since you don't even need to submit serial numbers(you can do that when you make a claim, provided you have the original box OR the receipt), I am basically covering every piece of electronics I own for up to $2000(smartphones, camera, laptop, camcorder) against accidental damage, spills, and thefts. Since I have 4 smartphones purchased for family plan, everyone of them is covered against crack screens, drops, and water submersions. For $66/year, I took a chance and hopefully if I have to make a claim, it will be a hassle free $25 deductibles.
I'm glad this thread is here, I was about to make a similar post. I'm also wondering which way to go as I currently have the Sprint coverage and would like something better and more affordable. I never heard of Gocare until now. I've used Squaretrade for my TF700 and it went well, bought a new one with the money...no deductible for tabs.
I'm thinking that will all the things that could go wrong with a phablet, if it would be better to go with Sprint for the ease. Will definitely look more into Gocare as I plan on picking up my phone this weekend.
I also was checking with Professor Google and found this: http://www.ensquared.com/GoCare-vs-Ensquared-vs-SquareTrade Ensquared is looking really good too. I'm going to put some more research into it but from their page here they look to have the best coverage: http://www.ensquared.com/catalog/phone-insurance/1-year-phone-insurance-smartphone
What about best buy? I heard we can just take the receipt and box into the store to get it added.
Ensquare looks pretty good since it covers loss also. Price is not bad for 1 or 2 years and you get up to 2 or 3 claims. I guess squaretrade is best known for service but if you need replacement within 2 years(assuming $99 2 years coverage), you will be out $198 and won't be able to make any more claims. With ensquare, you can lose your phone up to 3 times and they will charge you $75 for first time, $100 second and third time. How is ensquare's claim reputations?
Thanks to being spurred on by this thread, I have decided on insurance (which I NEVER get, but this phone is too expensive to risk) and weighed all the options. I just signed on with Ensquared. I almost went with GoCare, but read several things that said it was more a repair facility than an underwritten insurance provider. I ruled out Square Trade, Sprint and others for a variety of reasons. $59/yr with up to 2 claims ($1000 limit per claim), $75 ded on first and $100 if there's a second. Probably I will have none, but already feel more relaxed. They also cover loss or theft. Link if interested: http://www.ensquared.com/catalog/phone-insurance/1-year-phone-insurance-smartphone
Why not Sprint TEP?
Does it cost more? Yes. $11 a month.
Defective phone or wear and tear? Take it to the store. Swapped or repaired.
Lost, stolen or damaged? $150 deductible. I think there was something stating it's 3 swaps now.
Without it and with a 3rd party insurance. You have your 1 year warranty, but there is a $36 swap fee involved. Or good luck contacting Samsung. I tried and no one spoke English or had any idea of what I meant when I called in and explained my vibration issue. The motor or something is loose that it reproduces a horrid cracking sound. I have to keep it turned down at all times.
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What about best buy? I heard we can just take the receipt and box into the store to get it added.
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I work for best buy mobile an you can only add our protection plan if you bought the phone with us, with the exception of the iphone which we'll insure no matter where it was bought as long as its within 30 day of purchase and no damage to phone.
ps2gamer02 said:
I work for best buy mobile an you can only add our protection plan if you bought the phone with us, with the exception of the iphone which we'll insure no matter where it was bought as long as its within 30 day of purchase and no damage to phone.
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I have a phone I bought at sprint online and just went into the store and they added the insurance no problem
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aquaholik said:
That is true, forgot about the 30 days.
GoCare doesn't care if your smartphone is new so you can just buy another one after the first year ends. Neither GoCare nor square trade covers theft or loss but I believe Sprint does.
Worth Ave group covers theft but probably requires a police report. It does not cover lost.
I took a chance and bought the $2000 coverage from Worth Ave group for a year since it is a blanket coverage of all your devices up to $2000. Since you don't even need to submit serial numbers(you can do that when you make a claim, provided you have the original box OR the receipt), I am basically covering every piece of electronics I own for up to $2000(smartphones, camera, laptop, camcorder) against accidental damage, spills, and thefts. Since I have 4 smartphones purchased for family plan, everyone of them is covered against crack screens, drops, and water submersions. For $66/year, I took a chance and hopefully if I have to make a claim, it will be a hassle free $25 deductibles.
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They DO cover lost...if you file a report. I.E. "I saw it here last but now it is gone", with the police. Not loss in your living room. It has to be reported.
I had extensive conversations with them. As long as you are not trying to scam them. I hope I don't have to use it either.
And to the guy that said why not Sprint. It's 11 a month and $200, not $150 to replace.
steviee7 said:
I have a phone I bought at sprint online and just went into the store and they added the insurance no problem
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Please expound. I might be interested in doing this, but thought I had to buy it at Best Buy to be eligible.
ffolkes said:
Please expound. I might be interested in doing this, but thought I had to buy it at Best Buy to be eligible.
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I went to a best buy and they said only an iPhone would they sell insurance on it if you didn't get it from them. So no luck. He said return the phone and get it from them....
This site add some insight http://extended-warranty-services-review.toptenreviews.com/
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aquaholik said:
That is true, forgot about the 30 days.
GoCare doesn't care if your smartphone is new so you can just buy another one after the first year ends. Neither GoCare nor square trade covers theft or loss but I believe Sprint does.
Worth Ave group covers theft but probably requires a police report. It does not cover lost.
I took a chance and bought the $2000 coverage from Worth Ave group for a year since it is a blanket coverage of all your devices up to $2000. Since you don't even need to submit serial numbers(you can do that when you make a claim, provided you have the original box OR the receipt), I am basically covering every piece of electronics I own for up to $2000(smartphones, camera, laptop, camcorder) against accidental damage, spills, and thefts. Since I have 4 smartphones purchased for family plan, everyone of them is covered against crack screens, drops, and water submersions. For $66/year, I took a chance and hopefully if I have to make a claim, it will be a hassle free $25 deductibles.
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Where did you see the blanket coverage on their site or did you call?
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chrischoi said:
Why not Sprint TEP?
Does it cost more? Yes. $11 a month.
Defective phone or wear and tear? Take it to the store. Swapped or repaired.
Lost, stolen or damaged? $150 deductible. I think there was something stating it's 3 swaps now.
Without it and with a 3rd party insurance. You have your 1 year warranty, but there is a $36 swap fee involved. Or good luck contacting Samsung. I tried and no one spoke English or had any idea of what I meant when I called in and explained my vibration issue. The motor or something is loose that it reproduces a horrid cracking sound. I have to keep it turned down at all times.
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People are saying it's $200 for the Note 2 which IMO is getting outta hand.
Sprint insurance is getting so expensive it's out of the question for me. I can wait for a few days while my phone is getting repaired (did it twice with my Epic). The local sprint store (and I did not have TEP) was kind enough to give me a loaner for a week without any charge (best buy will do the same if you have their coverage).
I'm going to go with Best Buy. $169, no deductible. Sure it's more out of pocket, but I've heard of them, and after one claim I'm ahead of the game than with Squaretrade.
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People are saying it's $200 for the Note 2 which IMO is getting outta hand.
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Yes. I had to pay $200
MeetFace said:
Sprint insurance is getting so expensive it's out of the question for me. I can wait for a few days while my phone is getting repaired (did it twice with my Epic). The local sprint store (and I did not have TEP) was kind enough to give me a loaner for a week without any charge (best buy will do the same if you have their coverage).
I'm going to go with Best Buy. $169, no deductible. Sure it's more out of pocket, but I've heard of them, and after one claim I'm ahead of the game than with Squaretrade.
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Best Buy vs. Squaretrade Vs Worth Ave.
Go look at my Worthave thread before you decide. $67 for 2k of insurance on any electronics with a $25 deductible.
ZenInsight said:
Yes. I had to pay $200
Best Buy vs. Squaretrade Vs Worth Ave.
Go look at my Worthave thread before you decide. $67 for 2k of insurance on any electronics with a $25 deductible.
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I didn't see that on their site...how did u get that?
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