Possible S-OFF exploit within the next update? - HTC One X

As some of you may heard in the news, HTC is going to change its slogan from "quietly brilliant" to "bold, authentic and playful". My theory is that a future update will change the splash screen so the slogan on it to fit the devices look to the new marketing frame. Here is where the dev's and hackers can maybe start and search for an exploit. Maybe I'm wrong, but at least it's an idea since the progress in S-OFF development has literally stopped. Feel free to correct me

I won't .....
Edit :
And why is it that when an already s-off phone locks the bootloader it still says "relocked" what difference needs to be written to the phone to make it say locked. If we can't do that there is not much profit of a S-off device......in flashing and installing roms i mean.
Obtaining a "locked" bootloader would be the best, at least for warranty purposes !

Mr Hofs said:
I won't .....
Edit :
And why is it that when an already s-off phone locks the bootloader it still says "relocked" what difference needs to be written to the phone to make it say locked. If we can't do that there is not much profit of a S-off device......in flashing and installing roms i mean.
Obtaining a "locked" bootloader would be the best, at least for warranty purposes !
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Because the hboot.img needs editing, so the options are locked and locked, instead of relocked and locked. That's not difficult, don't think anyway.

Mr Hofs said:
I won't .....
Edit :
And why is it that when an already s-off phone locks the bootloader it still says "relocked" what difference needs to be written to the phone to make it say locked. If we can't do that there is not much profit of a S-off device......in flashing and installing roms i mean.
Obtaining a "locked" bootloader would be the best, at least for warranty purposes !
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Forgetting the warranty side it's handy to be able to download, install ROMs and nandroids all on the phone without requiring a pc to do fastboot commands + when a new firmware is out (like when jb was being rolled out) there is no waiting around for your cid to be supported. All minor but usefull. I'd still like to know if it's possible to get back to locked though.
Sent from my HTC One X

herbie13 said:
Forgetting the warranty side it's handy to be able to download, install ROMs and nandroids all on the phone without requiring a pc to do fastboot commands + when a new firmware is out (like when jb was being rolled out) there is no waiting around for your cid to be supported. All minor but usefull. I'd still like to know if it's possible to get back to locked though.
Sent from my HTC One X
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Yeah getting it back to locked would be great. And you are right about the flashing stuff. Its just so that i got used to flash the phone with fastboot so much.....it would be strange to do it without
And where would i go as a helper on xda ? Flashing will be too easy, i could lose my job here

AW: Possible S-OFF exploit within the next update?
Mr Hofs said:
Yeah getting it back to locked would be great. And you are right about the flashing stuff. Its just so that i got used to flash the phone with fastboot so much.....it would be strange to do it without
And where would i go as a helper on xda ? Flashing will be too easy, i could lose my job here
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You may have the Job "S-OFF Guide"
Oh god I'm dreaming...again. Could we please come back to topic? That'd be great ^^
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Wildfire S bootloader now unlockable via HTC-Dev

The Wildfire S is now supported on HTC-Dev for bootloader unlocking. They seem to've recently added a bunch of devices "launched prior to September 2011" to the list of supported devices, which includes the Wildfire S. There's now a drop-down box instead of just a list of supported devices.
You have to apply an RUU if you're not running a certain software version to use this tool because it requires a specific HBOOT. Remember to backup your info/etc.
I'm hoping they add the Chacha to the list of supported devices soon, as we're still in the Legacy & Low Activity section
Is it true? Because another thread discust about HTC didn unlocked it
I will give it a Try. Btw I'm new here. I will edit this post as far it's done.
//Edit: It's done. Looked in Hboot and it say above all "***LOCKED (oow) ***"
just tested.
not only is is still s-on after this, but there is a big pink ote at the top of the bootscreen that says "*** LOCKED (OOW) ***"
no idea what this means :s
Woah, what?
Could you take a picture of it?
I'm curious how it looks.
did you updated rom before s-off?
Cold Ice said:
I will give it a Try. Btw I'm new here. I will edit this post as far it's done.
//Edit: It's done. Looked in Hboot and it say above all "***LOCKED (oow) ***"
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Gloris said:
just tested.
not only is is still s-on after this, but there is a big pink ote at the top of the bootscreen that says "*** LOCKED (OOW) ***"
no idea what this means :s
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Did you two go through with the whole procedure, or just applied the RUU?
EDIT: From what I've read, after you've gone through with the full procedure, that pink text should say UNLOCKED. You will still be S-ON, however the boot (kernel), recovery and system partitions will no longer be protected.
Gloris said:
just tested.
not only is is still s-on after this, but there is a big pink ote at the top of the bootscreen that says "*** LOCKED (OOW) ***"
no idea what this means :s
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I'm wondering if this also patches the XTC-Clip exploit.
Anyone tried the clip on a post sept phone?
Wondering if they've patched the exploit for all HTC phones.
I forgot to do the whole procedure, i will give it a new try. I will come back and say if it works.
What is the actual difference among S-OFF and unlocked bootloader ?
Going to try this later lol
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using xda premium
Nightshadow931 said:
What is the actual difference among S-OFF and unlocked bootloader ?
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S-OFF means that there are zero restrictions on what you can modify/flash - ie. you can flash radios and bootloaders.
HTC's method of unlocking only allows you to flash kernels (/boot), recoveries (/recovery) and ROMs (/system)
d33ps1x said:
I'm wondering if this also patches the XTC-Clip exploit.
Anyone tried the clip on a post sept phone?
Wondering if they've patched the exploit for all HTC phones.
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I don't think they can patch a hardware exploit without redesigning the hardware.
Edit: what we should try now is 'htc-unlock' a phone, then try to xtc-clip it to see if it still possible. But I still don't think they can patch out the clip.
Desire-Oxygen2.3.2 | WFS-stock
So, it's done and it's Unlocked!
Wow wow, Cold Ice! Can you guide how to do it? step by step? please! Or give some screen shoots
yups, i didn't realise there was more to the process than updating the ruu....just completed the process, and now it says unlocked, but it's still s-ON?
so what now? can i now put custom roms on to make the most of the limited memory, or do i need to s-off still first?
confused.com
Gloris said:
yups, i didn't realise there was more to the process than updating the ruu....just completed the process, and now it says unlocked, but it's still s-ON?
so what now? can i now put custom roms on to make the most of the limited memory, or do i need to s-off still first?
confused.com
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You can still flash ROMs, you just can't flash radios and bootloaders
eoghan2t7 said:
Going to try this later lol
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using xda premium
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I'm not! LOL
Either way this is a great step forward for our little phone that could. Someone break out the sparkling wine. Save the champagne for S-OFF though.
Will this allow users to run CWM scripts to resize partitions or would that be locked down still?

[Q] How can reset or clear Relocked flag on bootloader

Hi everyone,
I have a One X with S-OFF .
How can I reset Relocked flag.
I hate to see "Relocked" on bootloader.
You cannot get rid of it, any way you never see it. How often do you enter recovery.
Sent from my fingers
at least twice a day
Does not anybody know?
can i replace the "mmcblk0p4" block with "locked" mmcblk0p4 block from another One x ? What happens if I try..
Is Relocked flag in this block?
Save yourself a brick and live with relocked......
thanks for your reply
maybe, i save myself a brick but don't live with relocked......:crying:
because, bluetooth does not work. I need to send the phone for service. but it was out of warranty.
i think.. maybe fix it and re-covered by warranty.
I guess I'm wrong.
The only s-off phones that successfully got the bootloader back to locked were bricked to the max.
my HOX is already S-OFF.
Once the RUU is installed, but it did not resolve.
There can be phones like the ONE XL or ONE m7
Why can not the ONE X.
I know the processor is different. but still must be a way
Please read carefully. The phones that had s-off and wanted to lock the bootloader got BRICKED ! a ruu does not lock the bootloader.
It's because of the tegra crap !.
ok. I understood.
Yeah sowwy
I am back to S-ON and I will send phone to service.
and when it comes back to sell it.
and an even more stay from tegra.
ceturan said:
I am back to S-ON and I will send phone to service.
and when it comes back to sell it.
and an even more stay from tegra.
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Your choice
Relocked Flaf remove
Hello Guys! I would like to overwrite the flag relocked to locked on my HTC. My H.One no longer has any trace of root, boot recovery is the original factory and the current state of HTC's S-ON. Everything perfect! Original RUU factory, no bug, it's all right. My only fear is not guaranteed to be valid, for the simple fact that the bootloader be "relocked". How can I override this? Without changing the S-On to S-Off?
capivarovisky said:
Hello Guys! I would like to overwrite the flag relocked to locked on my HTC. My H.One no longer has any trace of root, boot recovery is the original factory and the current state of HTC's S-ON. Everything perfect! Original RUU factory, no bug, it's all right. My only fear is not guaranteed to be valid, for the simple fact that the bootloader be "relocked". How can I override this? Without changing the S-On to S-Off?
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No way and please don't ask anymore for it...for such things we need s-off so as you don't have it you can lock it so please don't ask anymore lol
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[q] debranding

Hello. I have an HTC ONE M8 CID : ORANG001. Bootloader LOCKED and S-ON. Running : Android 4.4.3
It is carrier unlocked, I can use whatever sim I like with this phone. Now, I want to get rid off ORANG001 and change it with a HTC__001 or some other CID so I can receive updates directly from HTC.
Does anyone know some safe steps to accomplish this ? Or I can change somehow the recovery with another one ? I think ORANG001 means that is orange stock recovery. It's not carrier locked, but still, I want to replace the ORANG001.
PoweredTek said:
Hello. I have an HTC ONE M8 CID : ORANG001. Bootloader LOCKED and S-ON. Running : Android 4.4.3
It is carrier unlocked, I can use whatever sim I like with this phone. Now, I want to get rid off ORANG001 and change it with a HTC__001 or some other CID so I can receive updates directly from HTC.
Does anyone know some safe steps to accomplish this ? Or I can change somehow the recovery with another one ? I think ORANG001 means that is orange stock recovery. It's not carrier locked, but still, I want to replace the ORANG001.
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You need s-off to chance your cid...
After this you can play with you phone as you wish, even convert it to GPE edition...
Sent from here
lukes91 said:
You need s-off to chance your cid...
After this you can play with you phone as you wish, even convert it to GPE edition...
Sent from here
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After S-OFF can I still receive official updates from HTC ?
PoweredTek said:
After S-OFF can I still receive official updates from HTC ?
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Yes, you can
Sent from here
PoweredTek said:
After S-OFF can I still receive official updates from HTC ?
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Only if you have stock rom and recovery. But if you go that far down, may as well download it from here and flash it yourself.
PcFish said:
Only if you have stock rom and recovery. But if you go that far down, may as well download it from here and flash it yourself.
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Yeah but to S-OFF one must be rooted first, right?
UPDATE : I just unlocked the bootloader. I want to root the device but what TWRP should I flash ?
UPDATE : Rooted the device and installed SuperSU via TWRP. Next, getting S-OFF.
UPDATE : I get this message while flashing firewater : firewater can not work on your device.
Until I manage to S-OFF can I flash through TWRP a custom ROM like CM for example ? Or S-OFF is a must for doing this ?
PoweredTek said:
Yeah but to S-OFF one must be rooted first, right?
UPDATE : I just unlocked the bootloader. I want to root the device but what TWRP should I flash ?
UPDATE : Rooted the device and installed SuperSU via TWRP. Next, getting S-OFF.
UPDATE : I get this message while flashing firewater : firewater can not work on your device.
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For firewater yes, I'm not familiar with the other methods.
If it's saying it doesn't work for your device, you're out of luck, unless you try the other methods. Which you do at your own risk obviously.
PcFish said:
For firewater yes, I'm not familiar with the other methods.
If it's saying it doesn't work for your device, you're out of luck, unless you try the other methods. Which you do at your own risk obviously.
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What are the other methods, and I cannot install a custom ROM like CM with S-ON right ?
PoweredTek said:
What are the other methods, and I cannot install a custom ROM like CM with S-ON right ?
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Sunshine? I forget the names.
You only need an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery to install custom roms.
PcFish said:
Sunshine? I forget the names.
You only need an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery to install custom roms.
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Then what is the purpose of S-OFF ?
PoweredTek said:
Then what is the purpose of S-OFF ?
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You can flash whatever rom you like without s-off...
S-off is required to write to all partitions, change cid and so on (google and xda are your friends)... You can still achieve this by flashing a stock-like rom like arhd or maximus te and paying 25 bucks to Sunshine developers...
lukes91 said:
You can flash whatever rom you like without s-off...
S-off is required to write to all partitions, change cid and so on (google and xda are your friends)... You can still achieve this by flashing a stock-like rom like arhd or maximus te and paying 25 bucks to Sunshine developers...
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I have CM11. Next step, S--OFF via SunShine.
PoweredTek said:
I have CM11. Next step, S--OFF via SunShine.
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Sunshine requires the stock sense rom .. i hope you made a nandriod
or you can just flash this
http://www.androidrevolution.org/downloader/download.php?file=One_M8_2.22.401.4_odexed.zip
once your s-off I recommend this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/change-wwe-m8-to-dev-edition-ota-t2826567
PoweredTek said:
I have CM11. Next step, S--OFF via SunShine.
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Are you sure you need s-off?
From your posts, I can plainly tell you are a noob. (no offence, that just what we call the new to rooting people here.)
S-on is there to protect your device from becoming bricked when you flash something you shouldn't be.
With S-off, if you screw up, your $700 phone might be turned into a paperweight with absolutely zero chance that the warranty is still valid.
If you want my advice, don't go S-off till you know what you are doing.
xunholyx said:
Are you sure you need s-off?
From your posts, I can plainly tell you are a noob. (no offence, that just what we call the new to rooting people here.)
S-on is there to protect your device from becoming bricked when you flash something you shouldn't be.
With S-off, if you screw up, your $700 phone might be turned into a paperweight with absolutely zero chance that the warranty is still valid.
If you want my advice, don't go S-off till you know what you are doing.
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I just S-OFF. So I think you were wrong.
PoweredTek said:
I just S-OFF. So I think you were wrong.
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I didn't say you won't be able to s-off, I asked you if you needed it.
Why do you need S-off? Do you even know what s-off is for?
Or do you just want it because you think it's cool?
Anyways, happy flashing dude.
I have a feeling that in a week or two, you'll be back on this forum begging for help, and I'll say to you, "I told you so!" But I really hope not.
Have fun, and be careful what you flash now.
No joke.
EDIT: I see now where you thought I was wrong. I didn't mean you will bugger your phone while doing the S-off, I meant you may bugger it up after, because you are S-off.
xunholyx said:
I didn't say you won't be able to s-off, I asked you if you needed it.
Why do you need S-off? Do you even know what s-off is for?
Or do you just want it because you think it's cool?
Anyways, happy flashing dude.
I have a feeling that in a week or two, you'll be back on this forum begging for help, and I'll say to you, "I told you so!" But I really hope not.
Have fun, and be careful what you flash now.
No joke.
EDIT: I see now where you thought I was wrong. I didn't mean you will bugger your phone while doing the S-off, I meant you may bugger it up after, because you are S-off.
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For example the red text cannot be removed with S-ON.
PoweredTek said:
For example the red text cannot be removed with S-ON.
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I got this reply just after I PMed you.
I think you are going to be just fine.
Keep reading and learning, and don't be afraid to ask questions.
You got this buddy.
xunholyx said:
I got this reply just after I PMed you.
I think you are going to be just fine.
Keep reading and learning, and don't be afraid to ask questions.
You got this buddy.
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There is no PM.
PoweredTek said:
There is no PM.
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I sent a PM then, and have just sent a new one two minutes ago before I saw this post.
Also, I just tried to send a friend request that didn't deliver because there was no friend button for it?
The junior status maybe?
Anyways, the gist of it was this:
I was very mistaken about you. You are obviously not a noob from what I've seen on subsequent posts, you are just an M8 noob. I was in your position once, and I get it 100%
The thing is, on the Q&A, I get sick of the same questions over and over and over.
And also, people getting into soft brick trouble because of s-off.
I have no worries about you though buddy.
You will be just fine. It's not really that hard. Just different than the rest.
It's worth it though. The M8 is SOOO nice!

Locking Bootloader

hi,
i have to return my phone guarantee because the speaker and jack input doesnt work.
i have already unroot device, flash stock recovery, (i was all the time s-on), flash stock rom and trying to lock bootloader but i cant make it LOCKED (it's RELOCKED). i was looking for any "how to" but im blind ...
can anyone help with making my bootloader LOCKED ?
pangapz said:
hi,
i have to return my phone guarantee because the speaker and jack input doesnt work.
i have already unroot device, flash stock recovery, (i was all the time s-on), flash stock rom and trying to lock bootloader but i cant make it LOCKED (it's RELOCKED). i was looking for any "how to" but im blind ...
can anyone help with making my bootloader LOCKED ?
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are you s off?
no, im sON
Only way to put it back totally stock is to be S-off.
Magnum_Enforcer said:
Only way to put it back totally stock is to be S-off.
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yeah, i dont even think about paying 25$ to s-off...
and i have one more problem: i got "Software status : Modified", i want it Official (Original), do i need s-off to make it ?
i was searching some threads and i found that flashing RUU can solve this problem but i can find RUU from my carrier (Plus, Poland)
Just a thought... 25 dollars to s-off could save you getting charged for your repair if they see you're "relocked" and deny your warranty. ?
Darth said:
Just a thought... 25 dollars to s-off could save you getting charged for your repair if they see you're "relocked" and deny your warranty.
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i know but its a "mechanical" issue not the software so they should reapir it even bootloader is unlocked ;P but i want be sure they'll do it without any problems
is possible to make Software Status : Official from Modified ?
(S-ON)
Is 25$ s-off way , can be use multiply on my device ?
You'll need S-OFF to completely return to stock with no tampering signs.... But, if they don't send you back your same device , you would need to purchase Sunshine again unfortunately. Or stay s-on.
Sunshine license is for one device only.
If they send same unit back, yes, it will work again.
But switching back to s-on is really not necessary when you send it in. I've sent mine in with s-off and many others have without issue. But that's your call. ?

To clip, or not to clip...have some questions

Hi all -
Had this HTC One M9 stock for about a month now. I've been reading and reading and reading, and have the big itch to root, but also have some questions I'm hoping folks can answer that I'm a bit confused about. So I'll just get right to my questions.
I've had android phones for years, and I get the general concept of this stuff, but is this clip method so different, in that if I haven't done it before I pose a significant risk of bricking my phone or struggling to figure out the process if I've never done this method?
Does the clip method just get me S Off, or can it unlock the bootloader too?
Should I just use clip to S Off and follow instructions in this thread to unlock bootloader (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-lock-unlock-bootloader-htcdevs-t3092036)?
Can I return this phone to 100% stock if I need warranty service? From what I can gather from the unlock bootloader thread above, I can lock and unlock, and I assume with clip I can S on. Is there a way to flash image to OEM stock, and is there any other Knox-like things I need to worry about that I can't trip back?
I believe I read I can install TWRP recovery, but how do I do that once I have S Off and unlocked bootloader?
My goal is really just to flash a custom rom. I don't know I want to change all the in depth things that I think I'm reading I can do with S off. Is it possible, or does it make sense, to S off, unlock bootloader (which I think is all I need for TWRP and to load ROM), then S on again?
I know obv people are sending their phones to folks to S off, but there's a few reasons I'm thinking about the clip method (please correct any misunderstanding):
I can get clip for just under $100. Comparatively if I send it off, I'd probably do a $30 donation plus fast shipping both ways...I'm already over half the cost of the clip.
If I need the clip to return phone to true stock, I'd like that have that ability myself.
I know there's a few highly recommended people on here, but I'm still uneasy about sending a $600 phone to someone I don't know.
If the process is easy enough, I could try and recoup the money by doing a few phones in my area.
I'm mysteriously not seeing many website recommendations for the clip.
Sorry for the 1001 questions, but thank you SO much in advance for anyone that can offer advice!!!
crackface said:
Hi all -
Had this HTC One M9 stock for about a month now. I've been reading and reading and reading, and have the big itch to root, but also have some questions I'm hoping folks can answer that I'm a bit confused about. So I'll just get right to my questions.
I've had android phones for years, and I get the general concept of this stuff, but is this clip method so different, in that if I haven't done it before I pose a significant risk of bricking my phone or struggling to figure out the process if I've never done this method?
Does the clip method just get me S Off, or can it unlock the bootloader too?
Should I just use clip to S Off and follow instructions in this thread to unlock bootloader (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-lock-unlock-bootloader-htcdevs-t3092036)?
Can I return this phone to 100% stock if I need warranty service? From what I can gather from the unlock bootloader thread above, I can lock and unlock, and I assume with clip I can S on. Is there a way to flash image to OEM stock, and is there any other Knox-like things I need to worry about that I can't trip back?
I believe I read I can install TWRP recovery, but how do I do that once I have S Off and unlocked bootloader?
My goal is really just to flash a custom rom. I don't know I want to change all the in depth things that I think I'm reading I can do with S off. Is it possible, or does it make sense, to S off, unlock bootloader (which I think is all I need for TWRP and to load ROM), then S on again?
I know obv people are sending their phones to folks to S off, but there's a few reasons I'm thinking about the clip method (please correct any misunderstanding):
I can get clip for just under $100. Comparatively if I send it off, I'd probably do a $30 donation plus fast shipping both ways...I'm already over half the cost of the clip.
If I need the clip to return phone to true stock, I'd like that have that ability myself.
I know there's a few highly recommended people on here, but I'm still uneasy about sending a $600 phone to someone I don't know.
If the process is easy enough, I could try and recoup the money by doing a few phones in my area.
I'm mysteriously not seeing many website recommendations for the clip.
Sorry for the 1001 questions, but thank you SO much in advance for anyone that can offer advice!!!
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OK...so when you s-off it's completely reversible and does not require a clip or card to revert. Just some simple commands. If you have a clip the best bet is to s-off and then use the adb command to unlock. The clip can unlock but it uses the HTC Dev method which let's HTC know what you've done.
Once s-off you leave it s-off. You definitely do not want to turn it on while on a custom rom. Some system write protection is turned on/off by the s flag and boot loader lock status. There's no such thing as Knox on HTC. Using already posted commands you can simply lock the boot loader, flash an ruu (like Odin image) and turn s back on.
What I normally do is s-off, then unlock via the adb command. Flash twrp. Flash supersu. Flash rom.
If you don't understand all of this and why it works this way you probably should NOT be meeting local folks to work on their phones. Sometimes things go wrong and you would be stuck in a really bad situation.
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dottat said:
OK...so when you s-off it's completely reversible and does not require a clip or card to revert. Just some simple commands. If you have a clip the best bet is to s-off and then use the adb command to unlock. The clip can unlock but it uses the HTC Dev method which let's HTC know what you've done.
Once s-off you leave it s-off. You definitely do not want to turn it on while on a custom rom. Some system write protection is turned on/off by the s flag and boot loader lock status. There's no such thing as Knox on HTC. Using already posted commands you can simply lock the boot loader, flash an ruu (like Odin image) and turn s back on.
What I normally do is s-off, then unlock via the adb command. Flash twrp. Flash supersu. Flash rom.
If you don't understand all of this and why it works this way you probably should NOT be meeting local folks to work on their phones. Sometimes things go wrong and you would be stuck in a really bad situation.
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Makes sense, and loud and clear on the advice on doing others' phones. Thank you so much....
Keep in mind that any clip/javacard will mark the device, so HTC will know that you had S-OFF anyway (if you ever return it for warranty).
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efrant said:
Keep in mind that any clip/javacard will mark the device, so HTC will know that you had S-OFF anyway (if you ever return it for warranty).
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Says who? Was never a problem for me. You actually have a harder time on a non-vzw HTC since you have to go through HTC Dev which registers in their system anytime you call in that you have strayed from stock.
I have warrantied many phones that were Java card s-offed. Properly returned to stock they will pass everytime.
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Says who? Was never a problem for me. You actually have a harder time on a non-vzw HTC since you have to go through HTC Dev which registers in their system anytime you call in that you have strayed from stock.
I have warrantied many phones that were Java card s-offed. Properly returned to stock they will pass everytime.
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Says someone who reverse-engineered the process, and who I believe.
I'm not saying it will be a problem, only that it could, if HTC decides to get picky. (I have never RMA'd anything ever so I certainly can't speak from experience. )
Yes, I agree that if you use HTC Dev to unlock, it makes it more of a problem than using a javacard (although there's nothing preventing a non-Verizon device from using a javacard - - your comment sort of implies non-Verizon HTCs need to go the HTC Dev route).
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Says someone who reverse-engineered the process, and who I believe.
I'm not saying it will be a problem, only that it could, if HTC decides to get picky. (I have never RMA'd anything ever so I certainly can't speak from experience. )
Yes, I agree that if you use HTC Dev to unlock, it makes it more of a problem than using a javacard (although there's nothing preventing a non-Verizon device from using a javacard - - your comment sort of implies non-Verizon HTCs need to go the HTC Dev route).
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Yep...second part of my comment pertains to the unlocking of a boot loader. It's probable that a higher number of non-vzw HTC phones use software methods to s-off. Of all of the phones I have s-offed using a card, 90% were vzw. I unlock all boot loaders using adb. Most of the folks out there who do card s-offs use supercid and dev unlock afterwards. I never really understood why when you can do it without letting HTC know. The built in boot loader unlock method on the clip also uses HTC Dev. Since all vzw HTC phones are banned from dev we have to s-off first.
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dottat said:
Says who? Was never a problem for me. You actually have a harder time on a non-vzw HTC since you have to go through HTC Dev which registers in their system anytime you call in that you have strayed from stock.
I have warrantied many phones that were Java card s-offed. Properly returned to stock they will pass everytime.
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True dat - I am one helped by @dottat to return to s-on, locked, and stock for a warrantee replacement. No problem.
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I unlock all boot loaders using adb. Most of the folks out there who do card s-offs use supercid and dev unlock afterwards. I never really understood why when you can do it without letting HTC know.
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Out of curiosity, once you have S-OFF using your javacard, how do you unlock the bootloader using dd when you don't have root? Or how do you get root?
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efrant said:
Out of curiosity, once you have S-OFF using your javacard, how do you unlock the bootloader using dd when you don't have root? Or how do you get root?
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Depends on the device. On m9 you simply flash twrp (don't need to be unlocked on m9 to do so) and then use adb shell in twrp. On the m8, I have twrp packaged up that it will flash in ruu mode with a locked bootloader. Then same as above.
In twrp, adb shell is root already....no need to su.
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Depends on the device. On m9 you simply flash twrp (don't need to be unlocked on m9 to do so) and then use adb shell in twrp.
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Thanks! I had no idea you didn't need to be unlocked to flash the recovery partition. Is it only recovery, or do you have fastboot access to other partitions as well while locked?
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Thanks! I had no idea you didn't need to be unlocked to flash the recovery partition. Is it only recovery, or do you have fastboot access to other partitions as well while locked?
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If I am not mistaken, you won't have fastboot access to \system or \sp1 (splash screen) without bootloader unlock, but you CAN have access to \system within a ROM if you are rooted, even if the bootloader is locked.
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If I am not mistaken, you won't have fastboot access to \system or \sp1 (splash screen) without bootloader unlock, but you CAN have access to \system within a ROM if you are rooted, even if the bootloader is locked.
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Thanks. So to confirm, with S-OFF and a locked bootloader on an M9, you have fastboot access to all partitions other than system and sp1??
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Thanks. So to confirm, with S-OFF and a locked bootloader on an M9, you have fastboot access to all partitions other than system and sp1??
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Why don't you want to bootloader unlock? if you're already S-OFF you can do it in adb shell. Don't hold me to what partitions are fastboot accessible with bootloader locked. I've always had an S-OFF unit with bootloader unlocked. Some partitions aren't writable in fastboot even with bootloader unlocked, although they can be flashed by aboot with an appropriate zip file. For instance, I have a custom splash screen on both my test M9 and my own M9. I keep my test M9 system partition unwritable to ease taking OTA's on the device, but my own M9 runs Fluent.
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Why don't you want to bootloader unlock? if you're already S-OFF you can do it in adb shell. Don't hold me to what partitions are fastboot accessible with bootloader locked. I've always had an S-OFF unit with bootloader unlocked. Some partitions aren't writable in fastboot even with bootloader unlocked, although they can be flashed by aboot with an appropriate zip file. For instance, I have a custom splash screen on both my test M9 and my own M9. I keep my test M9 system partition unwritable to ease taking OTA's on the device, but my own M9 runs Fluent.
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It's not that I don't want to unlock. I'm just insatiably curious as to how things now work with HTCs. (Last HTC I owned was 5 years ago.)
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It's not that I don't want to unlock. I'm just insatiably curious as to how things now work with HTCs. (Last HTC I owned was 5 years ago.)
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The M9 is very different from any prior HTC handset. Instead of an hboot which contains fastboot access, it uses an aboot which is very limited in what it can do, that leads to either a "download" mode or a "recovery mode." Only download mode supports fastboot, and only for some partitions. Some things, like splash screens, can only be flashed in aboot from a properly compiled zip file. Some things can only be flashed in download mode via fastboot. I don't believe \system can ever be flashed on an M9, only altered in recovery or via a rooted system (actually, it can if you are installing a fresh custom ROM). And I believe more changes are afoot in HTC handsets in that regard.
With my M8, Rezound and Incredible, you unlocked bootloader and you got S-OFF. Okay, it was a little more complicated on the Rezound because of that infernal "wire trick," but still, you could fastboot write to any partition once you unlocked bootloader and were S-OFF. That is decidedly different on the M9, and the Verizon variant is locked down even tighter.
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If I am not mistaken, you won't have fastboot access to \system or \sp1 (splash screen) without bootloader unlock, but you CAN have access to \system within a ROM if you are rooted, even if the bootloader is locked.
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System part is the other way around while locked on this phone.
Write protected in os ....accessible via twrp.
Boot loader lock flag controls system rw on this phone. On the m8 it was the s flag.
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