Hello, I am curious what the proper maintenance for the battery is? I have 2 spare batteries and an external charger. Should I leave one on the hook all the time or let it charge the battery take it off the charger when it is full? Thanks!
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Hello, I am curious what the proper maintenance for the battery is? I have 2 spare batteries and an external charger. Should I leave one on the hook all the time or let it charge the battery take it off the charger when it is full? Thanks!
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Let it charge until full because it will get damaged if over charged.
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Let it charge until full because it will get damaged if over charged.
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Ok so it is Ok to let a fully charged battery slowly discharge while it is not in use?
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How long should a battery hold its charge while not in the phone? I charged one fully and after 2 days I put it in my phone and I had 8 percent left :/
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1) Lithium Ion batteries can't be overcharged.
2) If your batteries are going from fully charged to dead after 2 days without even being used, either the battery is garbage, or the phone isn't reading it properly. What level was the original battery at, when you replaced it with the one you had previously charged? If you plug it into the charger while it's in the phone, what happens?
There's something wrong with that battery if that's true.
I charged my spares a week to two ago and they're still at over 90%.
Leaving it on the charger is not something I'd recommend. It can be "overcharged" if there's a malfunction in the charger (it's not that this type of battery can't physically be overcharged, just that there are precautions in place to prevent it from happening) - and why tempt fate ? The protection circuits in the charger are a form of protection, but you shouldn't rely on them - even ones from the "good" manufacturers can and have failed. Failure can lead to overheating which can lead to a fire.
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Does anyone else have this issue?
I recently bought the extra battery and charger (that comes with the second batttery) and here within the last few days, I have been charging the unused battery overnight and then it turns greens sometime during the night and then in the morning when I go to put it into my phone, it boots up but states battery life at always less that 60 instead of the full 100%.
So if anyone knows as to why this may be happening, I would greatly appreciate any feedback on this issue that has me pissed.
Thanks in advance and also if somthing like this has been posted then I apologize. I searched and did not see anything along this matter.
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So ur not charging battery from ur phone? Try doing that and see if it does the same thing. Is u phone rooted? If it is, than there is a possible resolition.
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The external charger may be shutting off too soon. Do what Lord said.
Also please put a subject in when you start a thread like "External charged battery only shows 60%"
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So ur not charging battery from ur phone? Try doing that and see if it does the same thing. Is u phone rooted? If it is, than there is a possible resolition.
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I tried that and when I charge it from my phone its does do a full charge and yes I am rooted.
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Bad charger then.
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Bad charger then.
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Its the same charger I plug into the the spare battery case thing to charge and the light stays red for a long time then it turns green as if its done charging but when inserted battery into phone and power up, its usually around 60% charged or less. But I pull charger out of the spare battery holder and plug directly into my phone and it charges to full ballery.
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Then u have a semi bad battery
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The battery holder like the phone has a sensor that tells it when to stop. It is working incorrectly....broken.
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So when I have my stock 1800mah battery in the phone my charger shows up as USB in the battery stats. It also seems a little touchy when it wants to charge. There shouldn't be anything wrong with the port since I just got the phone Saturday brand new from best buy. The thing that is confusing me when I put my old 1500mah battery from my SGS1 the charger comes up as AC like it should and i have no problem with the charger not wanting to work. Can someone help me out there
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So when I have my stock 1800mah battery in the phone my charger shows up as USB in the battery stats. It also seems a little touchy when it wants to charge. There shouldn't be anything wrong with the port since I just got the phone Saturday brand new from best buy. The thing that is confusing me when I put my old 1500mah battery from my SGS1 the charger comes up as AC like it should and i have no problem with the charger not wanting to work. Can someone help me out there
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You could have a faulty battery, in which some of the cells in the battery may be damaged. How are you attempting to charge your phone? through a usb port on a computer or through an outlet?
Through an outlet.
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Yeah most likely its a faulty battery. Manufacture defect
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I'll try a different charger Saturday when I get back from my trip and if it still doesn't show up as AC I'll take the battery back to best buy ty
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I also have an external charger but an extended life battery acted the same way. It wouldn't charge in the phone. I fully charged it in the external charger then ran the battery in the phone until it shut off. I repeated this a couple more times and now the battery seems to be behaving. It might be worth a try but if it's the only battery you have, then maybe not.
Well I tried using my cousin's charger and it shows up as AC so I'm guessing it's just something with my charger not my battery
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Well I tried using my cousin's charger and it shows up as AC so I'm guessing it's just something with my charger not my battery
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May be a shorted pin in the usb cord triggering USB mode
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Is it better to gully recharge it before I turn on my phone for the first time or should I drain it down to about 1 % and then recharge it? Or does it not matter? Thanks!
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Is it better to gully recharge it before I turn on my phone for the first time or should I drain it down to about 1 % and then recharge it? Or does it not matter? Thanks!
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Doesnt matter at all!
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Doesnt matter at all!
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How come? Does it calibrate itself?
The manual says to charge it fully before first time use or long time of no use?
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How come? Does it calibrate itself?
The manual says to charge it fully before first time use or long time of no use?
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Yes it calibrates itself. these new lithium-ion battery are "smart" battery and they have this little trigger that tells them when the battery is fully charge so they dont get over charged or anything. All you need to do is put the battery and start using the phone.
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Yes it calibrates itself. these new lithium-ion battery are "smart" battery and they have this little trigger that tells them when the battery is fully charge so they dont get over charged or anything. All you need to do is put the battery and start using the phone.
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Im sure li-ion batteries are not to be fully drained. To have long battery life, i think you are to charge as often as possible and never let it fully drain - although the phone seems to check voltage and forcefully shuts down when the battery is really low.
Yeah it really doesn't matter.. And it's really never good to let your battery drop to 1%..I try to never let my lithium ion battery go below 10 if I'm near a charger
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Im sure li-ion batteries are not to be fully drained. To have long battery life, i think you are to charge as often as possible and never let it fully drain - although the phone seems to check voltage and forcefully shuts down when the battery is really low.
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Yes a fully drained battery isnt as good as charging like around 5% or so but theres no calibration needed, just put the battery and do your thing.
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So I ordered a 1800mah battery for the epic. It fit and everything but literally while charging it and on browser on just data, the battery life decreases while on the charger. It also almost died at school today. On my 1500mah, I ended a 7 hour day with about 30-40%. On the 1800mah, I got down to 20 and below. If kind of makes me mad that I bought a bigger battery and out sucks. And what is a good 1800mah battery for the epic?
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The battery from the Epic 4G Touch is your best bet. And as for it dying on the charger, it's the charger, not the phone or battery. I know this because it's happened to me. Try a different charger
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The battery from the Epic 4G Touch is your best bet. And as for it dying on the charger, it's the charger, not the phone or battery. I know this because it's happened to me. Try a different charger
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Yes I ordered the Samsung epic 4g touch battery. And sadly it isn't my charger because I am using the same charger on my 1500mah battery and its charging fine.
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Not always the charger.... When I'm on 4G and trying to use Google Maps even plugged in I drain my battery. If I shut GMaps down, it starts charging as per normal.
It was really frustrating when I first got the phone, as I was in the process of moving to Denver and knew where nothing was. Now, at least, I know the area well enough to just have it on at the start or end of trip.
The Anker samsung battery (search amazon for it .. ~$10 and 1800mah) has shown good results for me.
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Not always the charger.... When I'm on 4G and trying to use Google Maps even plugged in I drain my battery. If I shut GMaps down, it starts charging as per normal.
It was really frustrating when I first got the phone, as I was in the process of moving to Denver and knew where nothing was. Now, at least, I know the area well enough to just have it on at the start or end of trip.
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But I was doin 3g data and browser like I do on my 1500mah and my stock battery still charged.
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The Anker samsung battery (search amazon for it .. ~$10 and 1800mah) has shown good results for me.
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And if I do actually have a defective battery, I will try it. And does it actually give you more battery life and if so, how much?
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But I was doin 3g data and browser like I do on my 1500mah and my stock battery still charged.
And if I do actually have a defective battery, I will try it. And does it actually give you more battery life and if so, how much?
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it is normal for the phone to consume more power than the charging pack can output....... you might not of had this problem because the 1500ma battery uses less energy than a 1800mah battery(hence the extra life..) if you charge with a USB 1A charger it should charge the new battery better. also, turn of 3g and watch your battery charge about 2times faster than with it on.
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it is normal for the phone to consume more power than the charging pack can output....... you might not of had this problem because the 1500ma battery uses less energy than a 1800mah battery(hence the extra life..) if you charge with a USB 1A charger it should charge the new battery better. also, turn of 3g and watch your battery charge about 2times faster than with it on.
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Ok the battery consumption makes sense. XD. But then how about mutt phone battery dying a lot faster then the 1500mah battery?
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So I ordered a 1800mah battery for the epic. It fit and everything but literally while charging it and on browser on just data, the battery life decreases while on the charger. It also almost died at school today. On my 1500mah, I ended a 7 hour day with about 30-40%. On the 1800mah, I got down to 20 and below. If kind of makes me mad that I bought a bigger battery and out sucks. And what is a good 1800mah battery for the epic?
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Anker
And yes it does perform better. I have 2 1800 mAh Anker batteries and there amazing I got a deal for 2x 1800mAh batteries and the charger from Anker. For 20$ on amazon don't listen to reviews they said the charger is bad but mine has performed well for several months and still is. I. Had gotten 4 days before on CM9 with minimal use and on regular basis I get 12 to 18 Hrs with 3 Hrs of screen on time
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The Anker samsung battery (search amazon for it .. ~$10 and 1800mah) has shown good results for me.
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And yes it does perform better. I have 2 1800 mAh Anker batteries and there amazing I got a deal for 2x 1800mAh batteries and the charger from Anker. For 20$ on amazon don't listen to reviews they said the charger is bad but mine has performed well for several months and still is. I. Had gotten 4 days before on CM9 with minimal use and on regular basis I get 12 to 18 Hrs with 3 Hrs of screen on time
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XD thank you for that. If I do return that battery,I will try Anker
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Sorry about that. Thought it was a general thing
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Can someone recommend a Anker 1800mah battery from Amazon?
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TaviRawr said:
Can someone recommend a Anker 1800mah battery from Amazon?
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idk but generic batteries are a hit and miss. lol ive bought a few generics and only 1 out of 3 was actually 3300maH out of 3500
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idk but generic batteries are a hit and miss. lol ive bought a few generics and only 1 out of 3 was actually 3300maH out of 3500
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Jesus XD. That's a lot XD. I just want a 1800mah because i use CM10 nightlies and they drain battery sometimes.
What batteries did you order?
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Can someone recommend a Anker 1800mah battery from Amazon?
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http://www.amazon.com/1800mAh-Batte...&qid=1352296112&sr=8-8&keywords=anker+samsung
This is the one I ordered -- getting about 20 hrs of battery life vs. 12 hrs on my stock (2 year old) battery. Non-OEM batteries are typically a hit or miss, but amazon's return policy is dead simple and free, so IMO worth a shot.
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Can someone recommend a Anker 1800mah battery from Amazon?
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http://www.amazon.com/1800mAh-Batte...TF8&qid=1352308515&sr=1-2&keywords=anker+epic
same as other guy different label better performance in my opinion have both and for whatever on my phone YMMV i get better results.
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http://www.amazon.com/1800mAh-Batte...&qid=1352296112&sr=8-8&keywords=anker+samsung
This is the one I ordered -- getting about 20 hrs of battery life vs. 12 hrs on my stock (2 year old) battery. Non-OEM batteries are typically a hit or miss, but amazon's return policy is dead simple and free, so IMO worth a shot.
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thanks. How can you tell if a battery is non-OEM?
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http://www.amazon.com/1800mAh-Batte...TF8&qid=1352308515&sr=1-2&keywords=anker+epic
same as other guy different label better performance in my opinion have both and for whatever on my phone YMMV i get better results.
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Thank you
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thanks. How can you tell if a battery is non-OEM?
Thank you
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No problem, any other battery that isn't by Samsung would generally be non OEM
Hey guys, I'm having a problem. So recently, I have been noticing that my charge is much slower, then I realised that even though the charger is plugged to wall socket, the charge speed is as of a USB charge. Any suggestions on what I should do?
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Maybe the battery calibration will do the trick ..
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Hey guys, I'm having a problem. So recently, I have been noticing that my charge is much slower, then I realised that even though the charger is plugged to wall socket, the charge speed is as of a USB charge. Any suggestions on what I should do?
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Pristine way right? How that can be happening? Maybe you can use fast charge from google play, as sir arco make it compatible with his roms. But actually it is not necessary to do that as you plug in to wall socket. But you can give it a try.
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Pristine way right? How that can be happening? Maybe you can use fast charge from google play, as sir arco make it compatible with his roms. But actually it is not necessary to do that as you plug in to wall socket. But you can give it a try.
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Okay, just wanted to ask, is this charge speed fast?
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Okay, just wanted to ask, is this charge speed fast?
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No. That's battery calibration apps. This is fast charge app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nz.org.winters.android.gnfastcharge
Before connect to charger, open the app, give superuser permission then on it. The plug your charger. It should change to ac charge. Actually it function as if we want to charge it using usb and plug in at laptop, or maybe in car that have usb. So we don't need charger that can plug in the car. Give it a try. Cheers
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No. That's battery calibration apps. This is fast charge app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nz.org.winters.android.gnfastcharge
Before connect to charger, open the app, give superuser permission then on it. The plug your charger. It should change to ac charge. Actually it function as if we want to charge it using usb and plug in at laptop, or maybe in car that have usb. So we don't need charger that can plug in the car. Give it a try. Cheers
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Thanks. Just tried it, says AC, but the charge is 3V. Is that slow?
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Thanks. Just tried it, says AC, but the charge is 3V. Is that slow?
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I don't know. But i think it should be 4V. Hmm, i think you should wait and see is it slow or fast. Because i don't really know sorry
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I don't know. But i think it should be 4V. Hmm, i think you should wait and see is it slow or fast. Because i don't really know sorry
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Thanks for your help bro, ill try it on another socket.
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Maybe the battery calibration will do the trick ..
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LoL. Another beliver in myths and little green ghosts inside an Android phone. No offence meant, but it´s a pain explaining over and over this is just a myth and giving real facts many people still ignore even after being proven why it´s a myth.
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Thanks. Just tried it, says AC, but the charge is 3V. Is that slow?
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Don´t belive in what some apps are you showing. Take a DMM and check the voltages yourself. Your charger should output 5V and your battery should have 4.2V when it´s fully charged and something between 3.0-3.6 when discharged.
Myabe your charger is dying or its the battery. Either way no software will fix this, nor whiping battery stats which Android is doing on each reboot, nor green Android ghosts.
First check the voltages and try an other charger. Secound if needed replace the battery against a new one because it may also be the battery which is dying where it´s internal resistance is growing and so reducing the charging current.
The max charging current should be around 0.7 x capacity as charging with higher currents will decrase its lifetime.
It´s not worth using FastCharge. Neither for the lifetime nor for the risk to get your battery exploded, as this is growing too with higher currents.
Currently cargers are dirt cheap. You can get one with 1Ampere output for around $3-4. A replacement battery costs about $10-20.
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LoL. Another beliver in myths and little green ghosts inside an Android phone.
Don´t belive in what some apps are you showing. Take a DMM and check the voltages yourself. Your charger should output 5V and your battery should have 4.2V when it´s fully charged and something between 3.0-3.6 when discharged.
Myabe your charger is dying or its the battery. Either way no software will fix this, nor whiping battery stats which Android is doing on each reboot, nor green Android ghosts.
First check the voltages and try an other charger. Secound if needed replace the battery against a new one because it may also be the battery which is dying where it´s internal resistance is growing and so reducing the charging current.
The max charging current should be around 0.7 x capacity as charging with higher currents will decrase its lifetime.
It´s not worth using FastCharge. Neither for the lifetime nor for the risk to get your battery exploded, as this is growing too with higher currents.
Currently cargers are dirt cheap. You can get one with 1Ampere output for around $3-4. A replacement battery costs about $10-20.
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I recently bought a new battery, which ironically is $39 for a non-original battery, whereas the Samsung battery was charging $52... I think the cause is the charger, it has been relentlessly supporting me for one and a half years and I think its time to say goodbye to it.
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Yes, I have had already a lot of chargers dying. Disassembled them all and they all are using the same circuit. They are made dirt cheap and it´s production costs will be about 50 cent. The only better quality circuit I came across was from a charger made by Sony. This one was even worth to be repaired but if it comes to the other cheap ones I´m just throwing them away and replacing with new ones.
Just wounder why the batteries are so expencive in your area.
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Yes, I have had already a lot of chargers dying. Disassembled them all and they all are using the same circuit. They are made dirt cheap and it´s production costs will be about 50 cent. The only better quality circuit I came across was from a charger made by Sony. This one was even worth to be repaired but if it comes to the other cheap ones I´m just throwing them away and replacing with new ones.
Just wounder why the batteries are so expencive in your area.
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Well, that's what happens when you live in the sixth most expensive country in the world...
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