Hey, what does those recoveries backup?
I mean - System data/User data..
I just made a ZIP backup with CWM (6.0.2.3) and it's only 312MB (~430MB Unzipped),
and when I used TWRP I remember it was ~920MB (.win files).
In the TWRP backup there are cache, data, recovery, efs, system and boot files,
and in the CWM there are only system and boot.
I only need system backup because I backup the apps I need with TiBa.
(Is there anything else that I should backup?)
ToMeRv32 said:
Hey, what does those recoveries backup?
I mean - System data/User data..
I just made a ZIP backup with CWM (6.0.2.3) and it's only 312MB (~430MB Unzipped),
and when I used TWRP I remember it was ~920MB (.win files).
In the TWRP backup there are cache, data, recovery, efs, system and boot files,
and in the CWM there are only system and boot.
I only need system backup because I backup the apps I need with TiBa.
(Is there anything else that I should backup?)
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the Clockwork backup is a complete image of the phone. the recovery partition, boot partition, apps, and data. you could load a ROM onto your phone and have it not work to your liking and turn around and use the Clockwork recovery to reload the saved image and be exactly back where you were before the ROM got loaded.
on the other hand, about the best app to backup other apps and data is Titanium Backup. they don't get much better than that app for backing up your phone and having as many ways to accomplish that task as you could ask for.
Weird..
TWRP made a complete backup and it's 900MB,
and in the CWM backup ZIP there is only system.tar and boot.img.
TiBa backups only apps (and their data), doesn't it?
I need a backup of my ROM..
TWRP's backup is the ROM and the apps, and CWM's backup is the ROM only?
ToMeRv32 said:
Weird..
TWRP made a complete backup and it's 900MB,
and in the CWM backup ZIP there is only system.tar and boot.img.
TiBa backups only apps (and their data), doesn't it?
I need a backup of my ROM..
TWRP's backup is the ROM and the apps, and CWM's backup is the ROM only?
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No CWM backs up everything it always has done.
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I realized recently that my nandroid backups were not completing correctly (see pic). I noticed this because I have done numerous nandroid backups and there is only one backup showing in the nandroid folder. It always says "backup complete" but above that it looks like it might not be completing correctly? Is there a way to reinstall nandroid backup?
this is normal...
I've experienced problems with backups in Amon Ra as well. I've had a lot more success backing up via Rom Manager through Clockwork. Just an FYI for the future.
tyrnight, what is normal? and how come when I just ran this Nand backup, I have no new backups in the nandroid folder?
MSmith1, I thought Clockwork isnt a complete backup like Nandroid?
ryan2202 said:
tyrnight, what is normal? and how come when I just ran this Nand backup, I have no new backups in the nandroid folder?
MSmith1, I thought Clockwork isnt a complete backup like Nandroid?
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*sigh*
clockwork is a recovery just like amon is a recovery -
THEY BOTH have nandroid backup feature... its just as easy if not easier in clockwork and yes it is a complete nandroid backup
ryan2202 said:
tyrnight, what is normal? and how come when I just ran this Nand backup, I have no new backups in the nandroid folder?
MSmith1, I thought Clockwork isnt a complete backup like Nandroid?
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Clockwork & Nandroid are two different things. Amon RA & Clockwork are two different recoveries, & the nandroid backups can be performed by both of them.
I'm personally using Amon RA's recovery because i heard Clockwork doesn't wipe data as it's supposed to.
In the image you posted you are using clockworkmod backup/recovery. Therefore your back up images are in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup, not nandroid.
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In the image you posted you are using clockworkmod backup/recovery. Therefore your back up images are in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup, not nandroid.
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exactly...
OK I think I got it now. I thought Nandroid backed up differently than the Clockwork or Amon tools. I didnt realize the Clockwork (which I have been using) is a COMPLETE back up of the phone. I thought it was only backing up the ROM and not the data and apps, etc.
So since I have Clockwork/Amon through ROM Manager I can just use that to run my complete backups instead of going into Nandroid through recovery mode?
You can only use Clockwork to backup via ROM Manager. If you use Amon RA you'll have to manually boot into Recovery & backup from there.
Clockwork is not working properly. It is not backing up sdcard's and is not wiping all data. I recommend just using nand and quickboot however the new clockwork flashed over nand had to reinstall Nand Recovery via adb etc..
I'm new to this all myself but I think the reason it won't back up the SD card is because it would have to backup the entire card and where would it put the file? I'm guessing your SD card would have to be large enough and partitioned for it to write the backup to. That is total speculation of course...
First of all, according to the pic, your sdcard is pretty critically low on space so a nand backup probably won't complete fully. Second, the message about android.secure is a directory reference that occurs if you have transferred your apps to your sdcard. Since it can't find the directory, I'm assuming you aren't using apps2sd. The second message about the sd-ext directory only applies if you've actually created a secondary partition on your sdcard. So just because it skips those two areas doesn't mean that the remainder of your data has not been backed up.
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I just flashed a new rom and wiped my data, cache & dalvik cache and didn't restore yet because I wanted to try out the ROM first. After trying to restore nandroid backup, it CWM showed a "no files found" message. I checked my sdcard/clockworkmod directory and I still see the backup there but CWM won't read it for some reason. Can someone help?
kevin95 said:
I just flashed a new rom and wiped my data, cache & dalvik cache and didn't restore yet because I wanted to try out the ROM first. After trying to restore nandroid backup, it CWM showed a "no files found" message. I checked my sdcard/clockworkmod directory and I still see the backup there but CWM won't read it for some reason. Can someone help?
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Sometimes the backup directory changes with the rom. you have to find the right backup directory and move your backup there.
To understand which is the correct directory just make a backup with cwm (so it will create it).
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If i want to not only wipe system, data, cache but the /data/media partition as well before installing a new ROM, what's the least onerous method for restoring all my data after flashing the new ROM? currently all i know to do is backup my data, wipe everything, then restore factory image via adb, then copy zips to the device, flash desired ROM, then copy back data via adb or from dropbox after installing app
Is there an easier way?
titanium backup is the easiest way.
just dont restore system apps.
1. Run a backup in titanium backup
2. Copy the contents of your /data/media partition to your PC via adb or MTP (this should include your TiBu backup)
3. Wipe System, Data, Userdata, and the caches via method of your choice
4. Copy the contents of your /data/media backup back to /data/media via adb
5. Use adb to push a ROM of your choosing to /data/media (assuming you didn't have one in your /data/media backup, and assuming you're not using fastboot to flash a stock image)
6. Flash away (Recovery, if needed, and System via either fastboot or CWM/TWRP)
7. Download TiBu from the Play Store
8. Restore non-system apps/data in TiBu
However, if you're going to make a backup of /data/media and then restore it immediately after wiping it, I have to ask why? It's a time consuming process (transferring gigs via adb is very slow) and would provide no benefit to your device.
Also, if you're going from Android 4.1.x to 4.2.x, make sure your /data/media backup goes back in /data/media/0, or the OS will not see the files as being on your "external" storage.
Zepius said:
titanium backup is the easiest way.
just dont restore system apps.
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Oh im definitely using titaniumbackup to restore apps, but i was mostly referring to restoring the contents of the sdcard
Thanks!
jackbane said:
Oh im definitely using titaniumbackup to restore apps, but i was mostly referring to restoring the contents of the sdcard
Thanks!
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Using twrp I wipe cache, davlik, factory reset, and system and my sdcard is untouched. I was told by a dev to also delete the android folder in my sdcard using the twrp file manager.
No need to flash stock image when wiping everything just fast boot flash the rom you want and adb is the best way to restore your sdcard
Cilraaz said:
However, if you're going to make a backup of /data/media and then restore it immediately after wiping it, I have to ask why? It's a time consuming process (transferring gigs via adb is very slow) and would provide no benefit to your device.
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I know, I know...I have this idea of after flashing many different ROMs and finding my keeper, that I would totally wipe the device and then install a super clean ROM, and start with a virgin /data/media partition, bringing back only what I want. I recognize that this is probably unnecessary and says more about my desire for neatnes than anything else.
But thanks for the detailed instructions. Until now, I have been using the GNex Toolkit downloaded from the sticky in the dev forum to handle all pushes and pulls and adb duties. I thought that to push a file to the device, it had to be in Android mode. This is why I found myself having to flash the stock rom just to copy back the contents of /data/media. It sounds like, from the posts in this thread, that I don't need to, that I should be able to copy the files from fastboot mode? Or do I temporarilty boot into an image to push files, then flash the ROM from TWRP. (I'm using TWRP 2.4.1.0, btw).
If I could avoid installing the factory ROM, just to copy back /data/media/, that's what I'm looking for. Do you know if this is possible using the GNex toolkit?
Thanks again!
you have full ADB access within any custom recovery. toolkits not required.
Zepius said:
titanium backup is the easiest way.
just dont restore system apps.
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I always wondered about this. Does the stock browser qualify as a system app? Should i not use titanium to restore any of the gapps?
jackbane said:
I always wondered about this. Does the stock browser qualify as a system app? Should i not use titanium to restore any of the gapps?
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The best option for titanium, is to select BATCH, RESTORE MISSING APPS+DATA
Go down the list and deselect anything you DONT want restored. everything else should be OK on that screen.
Also, make sure you have the pro license, otherwise batch jobs are a PITA
There is also an option in the MENU button - BACKUP TO XML
This option allows you to backup call logs, wifi networks, mms/sms, bookmarks separately from the other backups and works 100% going rom to rom.
Everybody is recommending TiBU, and I concur, but OP is talking about all the other contents of the sdcard..
I actually just did this today. I had been on cm10.1 but went back to cm10 for a while, getting the extra /0/ folder and all. I was going to just copy EVERYTHING over to my comp, but ended up just copying a few music folders and a few backup folders. After flashing cm10.1 and gapps, I formatted the sdcard. Now I'm transferring those few folders back. I had a FULL sdcard before, so it feels good to have some space, that is until I think of something I wanted that I didn't copy lol..
Hello, I have CWM for long time but that's second time when I used it to restore my stock firmware with apps from a backup made before changing a ROM.
I was using Cyanogenmod 12.1 and before it I did backup of my stock firmware by CWM.
The problem is, when I did restore from a backup, It restored system well, but ... not exactly data.
System booted well, but I don't see any of my apps. Hovewer, when I check in App Manager, I see many apps that i HAD installed but they are shown as 0,00 B weight and have "android" icon.
Memory of my phone is filled as same as when I did backup but apps don't show.
How should I use restore from backup to restore entire system well?
Go to recovery and wipe data,cache and dalvik. Then use advance restore option to restore data and cache.
Now data should work but I recommend using folder mount or sd fix to modify the sdcard restrictions on stock kitkat.
When I try to restore stock backup it bootlop and didn't complete boot until I do hard reset
What should I do and which partitions should I restore
I am on 64bit twrp
ahmedAZ said:
When I try to restore stock backup it bootlop and didn't complete boot until I do hard reset
What should I do and which partitions should I restore
I am on 64bit twrp
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System - rom
Data - app data & settings
Boot - kernel
It's best practice to restore a backup with the recovery version to which the backup was made
You may want to format data first (will delete everything on internal storage)
Wipe
Format data (option on right)
Restart to recovery then restore backup
If you don't restore data make sure you wipe it in advanced wipe
You must restore at least system & boot
Don't restore anything other than system data & boot unless you are doing it to solve a problem specific to other partitions
ahmedAZ said:
When I try to restore stock backup it bootlop and didn't complete boot until I do hard reset
What should I do and which partitions should I restore
I am on 64bit twrp
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Flash no-verity-opt-encrypt-6.0 zip file (link here https://build.nethunter.com/android-tools/no-verity-opt-encrypt/) immediately (before rebooting into the system) after restoring your TWRP stock backup .