Do all the GNote 2 variants have the same hardware? (Int'l, US ATT US TMobile).
Not concerned about LTE, but HSPA -
Can a different radio be flashed to enable HSPA on the AWS bands (like the 1st GNote ) -
I'm going to Europe and and may bring back a GNote 2.
Is it still too early to know the answer to this (since the TMo USA GN2 has not dropped yet)?
Thanks all !!!
McNoob said:
Do all the GNote 2 variants have the same hardware? (Int'l, US ATT US TMobile).
Not concerned about LTE, but HSPA -
Can a different radio be flashed to enable HSPA on the AWS bands (like the 1st GNote ) -
I'm going to Europe and and may bring back a GNote 2.
Is it still too early to know the answer to this (since the TMo USA GN2 has not dropped yet)?
Thanks all !!!
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No, an international Note will not be able to get AWS bands. The AT&T one...possibly. The Inernational will not contain the 1700 band. When the AT&T note was released, they produced them with the 1700 radio anticipating a release on T-mobile, which was why the radio enabling the 1700 band could be flashed. If they mass produce the US versions again, then it should be possible. The T-mobile variant will be pentaband no matter what, since they are starting to use the 1900 band that AT&T uses for HSPA+. Actually, now that I think about it, they will probably be produced seperately because the AT&T version will include LTE, and T-mobile will not...so...nope.
I appreciate the quick response, thank you!
Now, GNote 1 had different chipsets for the Int'l and NAmerican variants (Exynos vs. Qualcomm) - I've been reading that the GNote 2 has Exynos on all its variants, which I haven't been able to verify -
I also read about TMo moving its HSPA to the 1900 Band, which would make the GNote2 compatible...remains to be seen how reliable HSPA service will be on that band (although I must admit, HSPA AWS has been pretty darn good for me in Southern California).
Thanks again, lowandbehold.
McNoob said:
I appreciate the quick response, thank you!
Now, GNote 1 had different chipsets for the Int'l and NAmerican variants (Exynos vs. Qualcomm) - I've been reading that the GNote 2 has Exynos on all its variants, which I haven't been able to verify -
I also read about TMo moving its HSPA to the 1900 Band, which would make the GNote2 compatible...remains to be seen how reliable HSPA service will be on that band (although I must admit, HSPA AWS has been pretty darn good for me in Southern California).
Thanks again, lowandbehold.
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The chipsets are exactly the same. The 1900 band will go into affect next year. They are still using the 1700 band.
Hi guys!
Okay, I'm doing a side by side comparison of the N7100 Vs the N7105, and one thing that is apparent to me now is.
#1) I'm in a refarmed area and I put my sim in the N7100 and bam catches HSPA+
#2) When I put the sim in the N7105 Same spot same settings( network only to WCDMA mode) I Get Nothing zip nada can't connect to the network (however AT&T's Network Shows UP), Only when I put it on GSM/WCDMA or LTE/GSM/WCDMA It's always on Edge. Can't get the HSPA+ to work on T-mobile.
So what gives? They both support the same frequency but only the n7100 is getting HSPA+? I know the N7105 has a DC42 HSPA+ modem vs the HSPA+ 21 on the N7100 but the band support is the same and just the N7105 has the LTE bands in there as well.
So why won't the N7105 Get HSPA+ Speeds on the Re farmed 1900 band?? Any suggestions?
I'm interested in this too. Does anyone know if the N7105 will work on tmobile's H+ network?
I just noticed this too
nostarz said:
I'm interested in this too. Does anyone know if the N7105 will work on tmobile's H+ network?
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Just came up on a N7105. Is there anyway around the EDGE limitation? Are you all on a stock ROM? I'm curious if changing the firmware for modem or ROM will help get us back up? Or are we stuck because of hardware limitation?
are you using the right modem?
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Still no luck?
I found the modems (or a discussion about them) at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2031575
The collection of modems seems to point here http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-N7105
I had NO LUCK finding anything for TMO in USA.
Anyone who came up with a solution for this?
Atomix86 said:
are you using the right modem?
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What modem do you suggest? I didn't find one for the US to convert a Telstra N7105 to N7100 (US -- Tmobile).. please assist.
I had the same problem. The thing is that the N7105's 3G radio does not support 1900mhz. Your best bet is selling the N7105 and buying a N7100 like I did.
I have the same problem
I have the same problem.
I wonder if by flashing any other modem or ROM (let's say ATT ROM) I could get my N7105 work 3G on 1900MHz.
The thing is:
N7105T: 3G (850/900/1900/2100)
N7105: 3G (850/900/2100)
I have the N7105 but I'd like to get this note work 3G on 1900MHz. Is there any way to do this. Not sure what really does a different modem on the phone, does it allow the phone to work on different bands? (of course, if the hardware is present in the phone).
Is it possible to do this if I flash a ROM from a carrier which work 3G on 1900MHz (like ATT)? Or it is absolutely impossible to do this because of hardware limitations?
I'd like to add that if I dial and go to *#197328640# -> UMTS -> Debug Screen -> Phone control -> Network control -> Band Selection, I can see this Automatic(*) meaning that the automatic option is chosen but if I get into WCDMA Band Preference I have an option which is WCDMA 1900 but if I click just that option nothing happens. The option is present but I cannot select it, but if choose another one, let's say WCDMA 850 for example, I can select it, but of course my phone lose signal because my carrier does not work WCDMA on 850MHz. I fix this by selecting "Automatic" again just to get EDGE as the best network on this carrier.
I think there has to be a way to activate WCDMA on 1900MHz provided that the option is already there, I think the hardware IS there.
So, what should I do to get 3G 1900MHz on this N7105?
Thanks in advance.
Reinaldo.
Phone: GT-N7105
Android: 4.1.2
Band Version: N7105XXDLL5
Kernel: 3.0.31 - 795352
Compilation: JZ054K.N7105ZHDMD2
Carrier: Movistar (Venezuela)
Nyxagamemnon said:
Hi guys!
Okay, I'm doing a side by side comparison of the N7100 Vs the N7105, and one thing that is apparent to me now is.
#1) I'm in a refarmed area and I put my sim in the N7100 and bam catches HSPA+
#2) When I put the sim in the N7105 Same spot same settings( network only to WCDMA mode) I Get Nothing zip nada can't connect to the network (however AT&T's Network Shows UP), Only when I put it on GSM/WCDMA or LTE/GSM/WCDMA It's always on Edge. Can't get the HSPA+ to work on T-mobile.
So what gives? They both support the same frequency but only the n7100 is getting HSPA+? I know the N7105 has a DC42 HSPA+ modem vs the HSPA+ 21 on the N7100 but the band support is the same and just the N7105 has the LTE bands in there as well.
So why won't the N7105 Get HSPA+ Speeds on the Re farmed 1900 band?? Any suggestions?
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Did you ever got 42 hspa+? I get 21.6 max on my n7100 on xxdlk7 modem.
I use Network Signal Pro for monitoring & talking about Net. type parameter, not actual speeds.
Hi,
I searched whole Galaxy Note 2 Forums for my question but did not get direct answer. My question is
Can I use AT&T Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317) in India and get 3g data as is without making any modification to Bands?
or
Should I enable AWS (TMobile 3g/4g) bands in this phone to use 3G in India.
If anybody is using this phone in India, let me know how / which carrier in India are you using.
thershope said:
Hi,
I searched whole Galaxy Note 2 Forums for my question but did not get direct answer. My question is
Can I use AT&T Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317) in India and get 3g data as is without making any modification to Bands?
or
Should I enable AWS (TMobile 3g/4g) bands in this phone to use 3G in India.
If anybody is using this phone in India, let me know how / which carrier in India are you using.
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Depends what bands your carrier uses. The phone (without the AWS hack) supports 850/900/1900/2100 MHz for 3G.
Product F(RED) said:
Depends what bands your carrier uses. The phone (without the AWS hack) supports 850/900/1900/2100 MHz for 3G.
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I thought it supports only triband for 3g (900MHz being unavailable). Can you please confirm that SGH-i317 supports 900MHz for 3G.
thershope said:
I thought it supports only triband for 3g (900MHz being unavailable). Can you please confirm that SGH-i317 supports 900MHz for 3G.
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I can't confirm that it actually works, other than this screenshot from my i317 (I did the AWS hack, which is why 1700 MHz comes up). GSM carriers in the US use 850/1900 (AT&T) and 1700/1900/2100 (T-Mobile) for 3G. So I can't see if 900 MHz works:
http://db.tt/WTFsWwwa
However, I don't think the phone will show bands that it doesn't support, so it should work. I have a hard time believing the phone is only Tri-Band, when my Galaxy S3 i9300 is quad-band (850/900/1900/2100 MHz) UMTS.
I know that the Verizon version works with 900 MHz because on Samsung's websites, it's quad-band UMTS. Yes, the Verizon version can also do GSM. It comes unlocked as well. You just have to use root and an APN application to add your carrier's APN, or just install a custom ROM that enables the APN menu.
I actually had the exact opposite question. I am planning on buying the Galaxy Note II (N7100) in India and I wanted to know if the 3G facility would work for any GSM provider in the United States?? I wanted to know if all the N7100 models (including the ones in India) are Quad band 3G. If so I guess the AT&T 3G should work as quad band would be compatible with the 850/1900 frequencies used by AT&T. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. I hope to be in the US from September for studies and thus wanted to be sure Id be able to use this phone for 3G there.
garam_masala said:
I actually had the exact opposite question. I am planning on buying the Galaxy Note II (N7100) in India and I wanted to know if the 3G facility would work for any GSM provider in the United States?? I wanted to know if all the N7100 models (including the ones in India) are Quad band 3G. If so I guess the AT&T 3G should work as quad band would be compatible with the 850/1900 frequencies used by AT&T. Any help in this regard would be appreciated. I hope to be in the US from September for studies and thus wanted to be sure Id be able to use this phone for 3G there.
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It works on AT&T 3G. Correct.
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Im using the att note 2 i317 in india on airtel network. Currently on cleanrom MA4 . Speed is decent. I get anywhere between 4 to 8 mbps during good signal
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Thanks for confirming. I was worried that I will miss out on 3g because of this 900MHz.
moinsheriff said:
Im using the att note 2 i317 in india on airtel network. Currently on cleanrom MA4 . Speed is decent. I get anywhere between 4 to 8 mbps during good signal
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thershope said:
Hi,
I searched whole Galaxy Note 2 Forums for my question but did not get direct answer. My question is
Can I use AT&T Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317) in India and get 3g data as is without making any modification to Bands?
or
Should I enable AWS (TMobile 3g/4g) bands in this phone to use 3G in India.
If anybody is using this phone in India, let me know how / which carrier in India are you using.
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I travel India frequently and have US (AT&T) and India (Vodaphone) SIM, I just swap the sim and everything works great. I am on cleanrom 4.8. No issues and great Internet speed in Mumbai. Even I was able to do RDC without any issues.
Thanks.
nughtynick said:
I travel India frequently and have US (AT&T) and India (Vodaphone) SIM, I just swap the sim and everything works great. I am on cleanrom 4.8. No issues and great Internet speed in Mumbai. Even I was able to do RDC without any issues.
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ATT Note 2 in India
Guys i am using ATT Note 2 in India and i am not able to pick up 3G frequencies here.. My phone is unlocked from ATT but i still only get to use 2G,. I would appreciate if anyone can help me here. How do i get to 3G here.? i am using a vodafone sim.
Hi there,
Can anyone confirm for sure and tested the following question:
How many bands for GSM, HSDPA and LTE does the T-Mobile Galaxy S4 (M919) have? Are they the same bands as the International S4 LTE (I9505)?
Based on the wikipedia page for Samsung Galaxy S4, the model I9505 has more LTE bands than the T-Mobile M919 version, is that completely true and technically proven?
Most of the websites state that the M919 and the I9505 has the same bands for all GSM, HSDPA and LTE.
I appreciate if someone can lead me to the ultimate answer.
Thanks.
Tmobile uses AWS for 4g LTE which requires 2100/1700 frequency. The GT-i9505 only supports 2100mhz i believe, which is not enough.
I think the GT-i9505 supports one of the several frequencies that Tmobile uses for HDSPA, so HDSPA coverage may be a bit spotty with the phone. This was referenced off the top of my head, but I had done some research online about this before as I had similar questions as you.
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Here's an article on the frequencies that just came out that may help you OP.
tikoracer said:
Hi there,
Can anyone confirm for sure and tested the following question:
How many bands for GSM, HSDPA and LTE does the T-Mobile Galaxy S4 (M919) have? Are they the same bands as the International S4 LTE (I9505)?
Based on the wikipedia page for Samsung Galaxy S4, the model I9505 has more LTE bands than the T-Mobile M919 version, is that completely true and technically proven?
Most of the websites state that the M919 and the I9505 has the same bands for all GSM, HSDPA and LTE.
I appreciate if someone can lead me to the ultimate answer.
Thanks.
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You can find all the information on the Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4
I9505 lacks the 1700MHz LTE band which is needed in T-Mobile LTE.
That's weird, I can swear that wiki page had different information yesterday about the I9505 LTE bands
macaumen said:
You can find all the information on the Wiki page
I9505 lacks the 1700MHz LTE band which is needed in T-Mobile LTE.
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Hey so looking at the wiki that you guys posted up there it says following for the tmobile version: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
now i somehow got my hand on one of these devices in europe for rather cheap and totally new, so im confused now what these CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E are, does any of these stand for any other than the 700mhz band? like 1700/1800mhz? or in other words, is it possible to get lte to work in europe with the tmobile usa s4? Can the modem perhaps be flashed with an i9505 one and than get the additional bands or is the hardware actualyl that different (as in antennas and amplifiers)?
Its not really a dealbreaker for me as LTE in my country is quite some time away but still, would like to know.
thanks
In simple words, the LTE bands are (not in order): Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), Band 17 (700), so we have the LTE bands available for the T-Mobile version: 700, 850, 1700, 1900, 2100 and 2600.
crnkoj said:
Hey so looking at the wiki that you guys posted up there it says following for the tmobile version: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
now i somehow got my hand on one of these devices in europe for rather cheap and totally new, so im confused now what these CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E are, does any of these stand for any other than the 700mhz band? like 1700/1800mhz? or in other words, is it possible to get lte to work in europe with the tmobile usa s4? Can the modem perhaps be flashed with an i9505 one and than get the additional bands or is the hardware actualyl that different (as in antennas and amplifiers)?
Its not really a dealbreaker for me as LTE in my country is quite some time away but still, would like to know.
thanks
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tikoracer said:
In simple words, the LTE bands are (not in order): Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600), Band 17 (700), so we have the LTE bands available for the T-Mobile version: 700, 850, 1700, 1900, 2100 and 2600.
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sorry for asking it again, but that basically means the tmobile version has most bands that are used enabled? just have to figure what bands are being used in my country... thanks really
edit: checked the bands here naturally its 800 and 1800, so my question remains, can i somehow flash the phone to work on these?
Check the picture attached, this photo is from the original T-Mobile US Samsung Galaxy S4 (M919) box.
crnkoj said:
sorry for asking it again, but that basically means the tmobile version has most bands that are used enabled? just have to figure what bands are being used in my country... thanks really
edit: checked the bands here naturally its 800 and 1800, so my question remains, can i somehow flash the phone to work on these?
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No, you can't flash a I9505 rom to a M919 device, if you do, you will brick it. The best option for you to get 800 and 1800 frequencies is to go for the GT-I9505, it's the Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE version, and it has the following bands for LTE Cat 3 (800 / 850 / 900 / 1,800 / 2,100 / 2,600 MHz). This is the official Samsung page: http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/smartphone/GT-I9505ZKAXSA-spec
crnkoj said:
sorry for asking it again, but that basically means the tmobile version has most bands that are used enabled? just have to figure what bands are being used in my country... thanks really
edit: checked the bands here naturally its 800 and 1800, so my question remains, can i somehow flash the phone to work on these?
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Yes, it seems that the I9505 has LTE bands for each region, it's not dedicated for America (North, Central and South), it also support Europe and Asia, while it doesn't contain most bands for a specific region, it's a world phone, unlucky doesn't fully support T-Mobile 4G UTMS network (1700/2100), but still a good option for those who travel to other continents.
sleik said:
Tmobile uses AWS for 4g LTE which requires 2100/1700 frequency. The GT-i9505 only supports 2100mhz i believe, which is not enough.
I think the GT-i9505 supports one of the several frequencies that Tmobile uses for HDSPA, so HDSPA coverage may be a bit spotty with the phone. This was referenced off the top of my head, but I had done some research online about this before as I had similar questions as you.
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Flashing just the modem doesn't work either?
I haven't tried flashing modems into another devices that don't correspond to their own. I can't help you with that answer at this time
crnkoj said:
Flashing just the modem doesn't work either?
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I haven't tried flashing modems into another devices that don't correspond to their own. I can't help you with that answer at this time
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i asked that because i have an att atrix, on which its possible to flash european modems without a problem, thanks for your time man, i hope someone will try this and it works
Question...are all those other things i've been hearing about other ppl successfully getting 4g reception after doing something to either with the aws band's, or to the software true? does anyone know for sure? i'm very thankful for any input, as i've been hearing so many conflicting things when it comes to the i9505 and getting 4g service with t-mobile, i just want a proven answer :/
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nycemc said:
Question...are all those other things i've been hearing about other ppl successfully getting 4g reception after doing something to either with the aws band's, or to the software true? does anyone know for sure? i'm very thankful for any input, as i've been hearing so many conflicting things when it comes to the i9505 and getting 4g service with t-mobile, i just want a proven answer :/
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T-mobile is 4g lte and super fast
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crnkoj said:
Hey so looking at the wiki that you guys posted up there it says following for the tmobile version: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
now i somehow got my hand on one of these devices in europe for rather cheap and totally new, so im confused now what these CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E are, does any of these stand for any other than the 700mhz band? like 1700/1800mhz? or in other words, is it possible to get lte to work in europe with the tmobile usa s4? Can the modem perhaps be flashed with an i9505 one and than get the additional bands or is the hardware actualyl that different (as in antennas and amplifiers)?
Its not really a dealbreaker for me as LTE in my country is quite some time away but still, would like to know.
thanks
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I bought my S4 T-mobile (SGH-M919) in USA. And it is fine working in Spain with 4G. But when i have upgraded it to Marshmallow then only works with HSPA(H+) as better. Change baseband? i am not sure to do it...mmmm
I'm looking into getting the n5100 from Asia to use as a Phablet on the Telus network (850/1900) in Canada.
I've been looking online to confirm whether the phone is a true quad band that would work.
On the Samsung UK site (only place I found spec on the 3G version), it says it's depends on regions. And there aren't much resources online listing whether the N5100 has specific models that are quad band vs others that are not.
Any help appreciated. Thanks!
thephenom32 said:
I'm looking into getting the n5100 from Asia to use as a Phablet on the Telus network (850/1900) in Canada.
I've been looking online to confirm whether the phone is a true quad band that would work.
On the Samsung UK site (only place I found spec on the 3G version), it says it's depends on regions. And there aren't much resources online listing whether the N5100 has specific models that are quad band vs others that are not.
Any help appreciated. Thanks!
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Where are you getting yours, if Hong Kong only LTE version n5120 unless you bought gray market N5100 which is import from somewhere else.
I just received my N5120 LTE and use it on rogers. LTE working fine I think it only work on the 2600mhz the other band is for Europe and Asia area, so you have to check with telus if they have the 2600. I also test 3g and it work without any problem but same issue, it is tri band 3g, and only 850mhz the other band is for other area.
For n5100 form Taiwan Samsung website, is said it support 3g quad band 850/900/1900/2100mhz just like my Tab 7.7, so I guess you will not have any problem using it on Telus.
They are releasing an att version soon. It will work for you
N5100 from India is also quad band (3g+wifi )
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