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Seidio Desktop Dock for Thunderbolt Now Shipping

The new Seidio Dock for the Thunderbolt is now shipping. It can be used without the need to remove your cover. Ordered mine this morning. I had one for my Evo before and it worked great with the cover on.

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http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bd3-crdhtmec.htm
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It says it will work without removing phone from case if you use the included cable.... Let us know if it charges in the cradle while case is on.... Picture shows it will....
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you can also save $10 by buying it without the case.

Ordered...I need a dock for home and work.

Curious to see some reviews on this ... really been wanting a desk top dock!
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Anyone know what the difference between the regular one and the "kit" one is besides the $10??

Thunderbolt Desktop Dock Kit
I believe the only difference is the kit comes with an A/C cord for the dock.

Doesn't put the phone in dock mode though does it?

MoeDaddy said:
Doesn't put the phone in dock mode though does it?
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There's an app which will place it in dock mode whenever its being charged. Down side is like I said "whenever" its being charged. Just gotta look for the app.

I'm waiting to see if it will put it into dock mode.
i will be watching this thread

Just ordered it about 2 minutes ago ... will report back once I get it

No. I don't think it puts it into dock mode automatically. I had the one for the Evo and that did not put it into dock mode. But I liked it because I did not have to remove my cover every time I put it in the dock. This one looks like it will also accommodate it for those that have an extended battery case..

The Nightclock app puts the phone in its own landscape alarm clock mode when it detects the phone is charging.

Just got mine. It works great with the Active X cases for standard and extended batteries. There is an attachment that snaps into the dock for when you're not in a case. It works perfectly!

Does it automatically turn the dock mode on?
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it works great with the high gloss silicone case from Verizon.

tuanster1119 said:
Does it automatically turn the dock mode on?
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I can't tell you for sure because I'm running a Sense 3 preview ROM with no working dock mode as of right now (they are working on a fix.) I may grab a dock mode app from the market in the meantime. It does rotate all my apps though.

Does the dock have an audio jack on it?
If not, can you still plug headphones into it, while on the dock?

Car dock questions

For anyone that owns the car dock:
1) how's the quality? Is it nice? Or is it a cheapo peice of junk?
2) how does it charge the phone? Via cigarette lighter? Or does it not charge the phone?
3) if I wanted to listen to music, does it come with/turn into an FM transmitter? Or do I just plug it into the auxiliary port on my car?
Thanks!
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I can speak to the Moto version, it's the one I have. There's an AT&T branded one also. Moto version comes with a USB connection from the dock to a dual USB cigarette lighter charger. At the charger end of the USB plug, there's a short pigtail female aux jack that can plug directly to a 1/8" stereo aux cable to go to your 1/8" aux jack in your stereo (comes with cable also). It charges well, except when the battery gets hot. It tends to do that in direct sunlight unless you blow a/c on it. I would suggest looking at a vent clip for it, that's my plan. This would most likely work with it: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015A6YN6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I found this online: http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-atrix-car-dock-eyes-mwc
Is that the car dock you own? I didn't see anything on it like the cables you described.

Sinful Animosity said:
I found this online: http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-atrix-car-dock-eyes-mwc
Is that the car dock you own? I didn't see anything on it like the cables you described.
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Yep, USB plugs into the back in that square indent. It wasn't a thorough review.

I got the ATT one and that one does not come with a charger. It comes with the usb/aux cable and dock. I got a rocketfish 2 AMP charger and it works great for it. Charging is great other than when it gets really hot in the sun (all black interior)
The new car dock 2.3.4 software is great and looks better than the earlier 2.2.2 and via AUX the sound quality is great on spotify / slacker / FLAC's and and mp3's into my stereo. I have my mounted near my gearbox and can easily tap what I want while shifting.
Work the money... I think all docks are worth it if it works into your day to day usage.

Thanks guys. Planning on buying this now I've got the Motorola Car Charger from Amazon, so not having a charger come with it is okay for me.

I've heard the dock doesn't work with many cases, so I want to build my own, but the split cable is the most important part. Does anyone know where I can get one, or even which wires are set to which pins? I could solder up my own if I had to, but would need to know what I was supposed to end up with first.

Incognitum said:
I've heard the dock doesn't work with many cases, so I want to build my own, but the split cable is the most important part. Does anyone know where I can get one, or even which wires are set to which pins? I could solder up my own if I had to, but would need to know what I was supposed to end up with first.
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You can get the official Moto case on cnn.cn then by removing the insert from th dock you get a perfect fit. There is a thread on it: Ruggedized Battery Cover.
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just to chime in
I have the moto version purchased thru att for $25. The dock works great plugged into the aux on my car. I've even used it to take calls handsfree through my car's stereo (have to turn the volume down on the phone pretty low for best results). The suction cup works well and holds it tight, I use it on my bike as well for bluetooth to my SENA SMH10 on my helmet.

rknight68 said:
I have the moto version purchased thru att for $25. The dock works great plugged into the aux on my car. I've even used it to take calls handsfree through my car's stereo (have to turn the volume down on the phone pretty low for best results). The suction cup works well and holds it tight, I use it on my bike as well for bluetooth to my SENA SMH10 on my helmet.
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Wow! How'd you get it for $25?
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Corp discount, we get 30% off accesories...

any can find the way to control the volume from the phone , when it's plug into car dock ? ?

luiscsi17 said:
any can find the way to control the volume from the phone , when it's plug into car dock ? ?
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The volume rocker maintains control.
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I went ahead and purchased the phone through AT&T and used the 25% off discount for a steal at $29 plus two day free shipping.

thanx!! jj
but it's doesn't work , for some reason when we upgrade to gb we loose control volume thru usb the same as car dock use it

I also noticed that the only control the volume rocker has over the phone when docked in the car is either on or off. This is not good for me, I used the phone through car speakers and can not control the volume from the phone. This makes the calls distorted...

rknight68 said:
I also noticed that the only control the volume rocker has over the phone when docked in the car is either on or off. This is not good for me, I used the phone through car speakers and can not control the volume from the phone. This makes the calls distorted...
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Sounds like you are running a customized ROM with the wake on volume mod. The car dock application runs on top of the standby / lock screen, so my guess is that the volume rocker has been hijacked by the mod, preventing the volume from being able to control the volume when locked and car dock app active. I think gingerbread has a way to go still which is why I am still on Froyo.
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jjwatmyself said:
Sounds like you are running a customized ROM with the wake on volume mod. The car dock application runs on top of the standby / lock screen, so my guess is that the volume rocker has been hijacked by the mod, preventing the volume from being able to control the volume when locked and car dock app active. I think gingerbread has a way to go still which is why I am still on Froyo.
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I believe this is correct, and I agree fully on the gb thing. I want to put it on my phone so bad, but something keeps telling me to wait. I even dl'd the ninja rom over the weekend and have the zip sitting there looking at me... tempting me...
Anyway, I have the car dock. When you can use it it's awesome. The only issue I had was on a long trip the battery was only at 70% when I arrived. I think the software lets it charge until it's full, then just stops charging at all. Not sure though, and the phone was VERY hot when I arrived too. The body glove case only kind of fits, the top won't clip down with it on. I bought the moto rugged battery cover from cnn, and it fits fine with the insert removed, but I hate the case. Barely any protection on the screen at all. The sides pull back very easily. Like if you are talking on the phone and have your finger on the lower corner, it just pulls off and you have to put your finger on the menu button to hold the phone. It sucks and I went back to the body glove. I don't use the car dock every day, so when I do I just take the case off.

Cardock app not launching
I got the car dock from AT&T. When I put the phone in, it charges fine but the car dock application does not launch. I've tried few different chargers and all possible variations of connecting things in with the same result.
If I manually launch the car dock application, the screen goes back to sleep after some time.
Do I have a defective piece?

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I got the car dock from AT&T. When I put the phone in, it charges fine but the car dock application does not launch. I've tried few different chargers and all possible variations of connecting things in with the same result.
If I manually launch the car dock application, the screen goes back to sleep after some time.
Do I have a defective piece?
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The screen will go to sleep and lock if you don't have a power source connected. I have not tested on gingerbread and there may be new issues.
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Car Mode enabled

So, I just purchased a Car Dock for my GN from expansys, arrived a few mins ago. Upon putting my phone on it, a notification saying "Car mode enabled" appears. There is no other changes though...
My question is, so what is car mode supposed to enable? So the Pogo Pins are just novelty?
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When Car mode is enabled, the default Car Home app is activated, and audio is routed through the dock. Sounds like you don't have a "Car Home" app installed though at the moment.

Well, you're not supposed to be able to put a car home app in the Galaxy Nexus...
I was hoping that something would happen with the car dock... I guess this is a Google fail?
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Car Home
Can't you simply download any car home app that you choose from the play store? I haven't seen one that is built into the nexus.

I just got mine also and when I put the phone in it does absolutely nothing. It does show that it's charging But I can't get anything else to work.
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xtsuname said:
Well, you're not supposed to be able to put a car home app in the Galaxy Nexus...
I was hoping that something would happen with the car dock... I guess this is a Google fail?
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lblack99 said:
Can't you simply download any car home app that you choose from the play store? I haven't seen one that is built into the nexus.
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Yes, just install any Car Home app of your choice from the Play Store. I use CarHome Ultra myself.

xtsuname said:
Well, you're not supposed to be able to put a car home app in the Galaxy Nexus...
I was hoping that something would happen with the car dock... I guess this is a Google fail?
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How is a Google fail. If you don't have a car home app installed, it's rather silly to expect it to do anything.
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xtsuname said:
Well, you're not supposed to be able to put a car home app in the Galaxy Nexus...
I was hoping that something would happen with the car dock... I guess this is a Google fail?
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What do you mean you are not supposed to?
Here are the apks you need to install: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26700624&postcount=932
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Galaxy Nexus is supposed to be Google's flagship phone and the pogo pin was supposed to enable something in the phone, even on stock without the user needing to download anything extra like what the nexus one is able to do.
The Galaxy Nexus however apparently is not able to do anything different regardless of when you purchase a car dock with pogo pins or not. The user still have to get a "Car Home" app from the marketplace.
So, why did I buy an official car dock instead of just getting a better dock that cost cheaper and works with multiple devices?
Do you get what I mean?
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xtsuname said:
Galaxy Nexus is supposed to be Google's flagship phone and the pogo pin was supposed to enable something in the phone, even on stock without the user needing to download anything extra like what the nexus one is able to do.
The Galaxy Nexus however apparently is not able to do anything different regardless of when you purchase a car dock with pogo pins or not. The user still have to get a "Car Home" app from the marketplace.
So, why did I buy an official car dock instead of just getting a better dock that cost cheaper and works with multiple devices?
Do you get what I mean?
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Well sort of. But I don't understand why it is an issue to install Google's Car Home. The files I posted are ones I ripped from the Nexus One ROM, so you have the same functionality as the N1.
When you insert the GNex into the dock, it launched Car Home, exactly like the N1...

xtsuname said:
Galaxy Nexus is supposed to be Google's flagship phone and the pogo pin was supposed to enable something in the phone, even on stock without the user needing to download anything extra like what the nexus one is able to do. The Galaxy Nexus however apparently is not able to do anything different regardless of when you purchase a car dock with pogo pins or not. The user still have to get a "Car Home" app from the marketplace.
So, why did I buy an official car dock instead of just getting a better dock that cost cheaper and works with multiple devices?
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That's not exactly what's going on. As another poster noted, "Car Mode" on the phone does a couple of things when you insert the phone into the POGO dock.
- The phone does into landscape (no big deal I know)
- The phone activates a digital audio stream (spdif) through the pogo pins which the car dock changes into analog via a digital/analog board in the dock. This enables you to use the line out with a 3.5mm jack while only needing the 3 pogo pins connected
- The phone triggers whatever default "car dock app" you have installed. There isn't an OEM one at this time preinstalled, but from my experience those usually suck anyway compared to the market offerings. There are free car dock market apps out there, but CarHome Ultra is by far the best, in my opinion.
- The phone charges at AC speed via the included adapter. This is enough to not lose power even when the screen is on, running navigation, and using an audio player all at the same time.
The dock is far from a google fail, in my opinion.

cheshirecat79 said:
- The phone does into landscape (no big deal I know)
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This depends on the orientation that you have. If you have it portrait, it stays portrait. So basically this is not what the dock does.
cheshirecat79 said:
- The phone activates a digital audio stream (spdif) through the pogo pins which the car dock changes into analog via a digital/analog board in the dock. This enables you to use the line out with a 3.5mm jack while only needing the 3 pogo pins connected
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Yup.
cheshirecat79 said:
- The phone triggers whatever default "car dock app" you have installed. There isn't an OEM one at this time preinstalled, but from my experience those usually suck anyway compared to the market offerings. There are free car dock market apps out there, but CarHome Ultra is by far the best, in my opinion.
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Yeah, I realize... I was just kinda hoping a little that the information that I've heard so far was wrong, as in google hid something inside the phone's system that would activate something that would make the phone awesome...
cheshirecat79 said:
- The phone charges at AC speed via the included adapter. This is enough to not lose power even when the screen is on, running navigation, and using an audio player all at the same time.
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You can do this using "Fast Charge" from AOKP ^^
One other thing the dock does is it forces the phone to "Keep Awake"
I guess I'm just pretty disappointed after all the hype that there might be a secret feature to it. The dock is pretty nice regardless.
Oh well~

xtsuname said:
I guess I'm just pretty disappointed after all the hype that there might be a secret feature to it. The dock is pretty nice regardless.
Oh well~
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I was disappointed too. I thought the dock would unlock a secret feature so it would make me breakfast while I drive to work and dinner on the way home.
At least it charges my phone at an AC rate without needing to connect a wire everytime I get in the car.

Well, that helps although I think Google should direct the user to get a car home app. It was preinstalled with Gingerbread, I think..
I was thinking that when you get the car dock a secret would show up or something. I installed the one from Nexus One.
Thanks for the clarification.

Car Mode Question

So, this might sound crazy, but is there a way to enable car mode without a dock? The reason I ask is once my Trident Kraken AMS case gets here I'll be mounting it to my motorcycle with a bike clip and I thought it would be nice to use one of the car mode apps.
Just a thought.
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Rescue Wagon said:
So, this might sound crazy, but is there a way to enable car mode without a dock? The reason I ask is once my Trident Kraken AMS case gets here I'll be mounting it to my motorcycle with a bike clip and I thought it would be nice to use one of the car mode apps.
Just a thought.
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Yes. All Car Home apps are regular apps, which can be launch via an icon.
You could also buy an nfc tag and have the app launch automatically.
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I guess I should clarify a little. What I was thinking is there a way to make the phone think its in the dock to get the features that come from that.
Thanks again.

Rescue Wagon said:
I guess I should clarify a little. What I was thinking is there a way to make the phone think its in the dock to get the features that come from that.
Thanks again.
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Check out the car dock thread in accessories. Click on the attachments. Efrant uploaded the car dock and car mode apks.
Edit: Heres the linkhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/misc.php?do=showattachments&t=1396051 Downoad the googlecarandhomedock.apk
You can also set the Car Home app to launch when paired to a bluetooth device in settings.
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For the full experience, you can also install the modded NFC.apk that allows NFC access with the screen off (one version), or anytime the screen is on, including the lock screen (other version), here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709586
Thus you can put an NFC sticker on any car mount you want and have it go into car dock mode as if using the POGO pins, even without using them and paying the extra premium for car docks with those.

[Q]S3 Specific Car Dock

Is there a car dock made specifically for the S3 that has a USB connection that will automatically enable car mode.
I had one for my Atrix but I can't seem to find one for the S3.
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Bump.
Anyone.
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I haven't seen one as of yet. there are some nice Samsung brand car docks though, and although its not exactly what you are looking for couldn't you use one of those NFC tec tiles to put it in car mode, maybe attach it right to a dock?
If you find one, please toss up a link...

The Samsung Infuse car dock that AT&T has works for it. Won't fit with a case on but it does enable the car dock and it fits perfectly. It was on sale for 17 bucks not long ago.

The US Galaxy S2 had a dock like this. The things that Samsung does just doesn't make sense.

Sistum Id said:
The US Galaxy S2 had a dock like this. The things that Samsung does just doesn't make sense.
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This is where Bluetooth and Tasker come in handy

inningsdefeat500 said:
This is where Bluetooth and Tasker come in handy
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Tasker is awesome, but Llama is a great alternative as well for those looking for a free solution.

syrne said:
The Samsung Infuse car dock that AT&T has works for it. Won't fit with a case on but it does enable the car dock and it fits perfectly. It was on sale for 17 bucks not long ago.
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The Infuse dock automatically starts my car app (Car Home Ultra) and the USB charging and 3.5mm audio out work flawlessly. Only downside is the fact that it won't work with a case, as the previous poster mentioned, but I use a Diztronic TPU style case that takes seconds to remove and put back on so I don't mind it at all.

I use an NFC sticker, with NFC Task Launcher, to initiate (and terminate) car dock mode.

The dock that works is the Infuse 4G car dock. I bought mine from AT&T for $17.99, but it's sold out now. Amazon has it in stock for $29.99. I'm not aware of a better price at the moment, but I'd search and look for the best price.

I'm using a Brodit active charge cradle with an NFC tag (NFC Launcher kicking off a Tasker profile). By far the best & most secure cradle I've seen or used, but not cheap (about £50 all up).