[Q] Hboot error, Stock rom fine, but no others - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, Noobe here. I have read this forum for two months on my problem, but I guess I just don't get it. Lots of have similar issues, but I just can not figure how to put them together in my case.
Problem: HBOOT bootloader error
Goal: To install Custom ROM
Executive Summary:
1. Tried to use AHTK to root, Failed
2. Rooted with success with other toolkit (forget which one)
3. Removed HTC Bloatware, happy
4. Tried to install custom Rom (with CWM Touch installed), no problems, reboot, HTC White screen of Death
5. Recover backup, works fine
6. Notes problem with Hboot (which might be blocking any new ROM)
7. Ask Nice people to help Noobe.
Background Info:
HTC DESIRE HD (UK version)
***UNLOCKED***
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0029
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.14.04.28_M
eMMC-boot
Dec 22 2011,14:28:19
Actual Problem
The Hboot tries to
((From My memory (it is really fast on the screen))
"Check the SD
Searching for PD98DIAG.zip
No image Found!!
Searching for PD98DIAG.nhh
No Image Found!!
Searching for Pxxxx.zip
Wrong Image!!"
......"
I am pretty sure this is the leftover script from the AHTK failure to update the radio and S-OFF
This is does not effect the normal booting of the stock Rom
Questions:
1. How do I reset the HBOOT to remove this script? (if needed)
2. Is this the reason I get the white screen of death?
3. Once fixed, can I just use CWM to install a new rom(using one of the many guides on this site)
or do think I need to S-OFF/update the Radio as well?
Thank You so much for all your help.
Brussels, Belgium

1. AAHK is retired, and the server hosting the the files it downloads is pulled, so of course it won't work.
2. You unlocked the bootloader, so you need to fastboot flash each ROM's boot.img each time you flash a ROM. Otherwise you get the HTC screen infinitely.
3. Delete the zip file in the root of your SD card. It's not a script. It has nothing to do with the boot problem.
4. You don't need to update your radio, but each time you flash a ROM you need to flash from recovery, then fastboot flash boot boot.img from your computer. Instructions are in the PDF in post #7 in the thread linked in my signature.

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bananagranola said:
1. AAHK is retired, and the server hosting the the files it downloads is pulled, so of course it won't work.
2. You unlocked the bootloader, so you need to fastboot flash each ROM's boot.img each time you flash a ROM. Otherwise you get the HTC screen infinitely.
3. Delete the zip file in the root of your SD card. It's not a script. It has nothing to do with the boot problem.
4. You don't need to update your radio, but each time you flash a ROM you need to flash from recovery, then fastboot flash boot boot.img from your computer. Instructions are in the PDF in post #7 in the thread linked in my signature.
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All I can say is Thank you! After months of this and it is answered within minutes. :victory:

Brussels said:
All I can say is Thank you! After months of this and it is answered within minutes. :victory:
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No problem. Have fun flashing.

backup the current HTC boot img?
bananagranola said:
No problem. Have fun flashing.
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Okay, only one additional question. How do I backup the current HTC boot img? Just in case, I want my old backup to work again? Is it needed?

Brussels said:
Okay, only one additional question. How do I backup the current HTC boot img? Just in case, I want my old backup to work again? Is it needed?
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Just make a nandroid backup...you will be able to restore it.

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[SOLVED] Semi Bricked HTC Desire - Need help

Hello guys, I have a major problem on my HTC Desire. Most of it is my fault but please try to help out here and not judge me... :/
I use Miuimod. I had the 1.8.1 version and I went to install 2.1. The thing is that (for the first time!!!) I didn't check the last page of thread to find out that Miuimod 2.1 for Desire a major bug that forces an endless reboot.
And that's not all... Don't ask me why but.. I didn't make a NANDroid backup... :/ I was in a hurry and I didn't check the button from ROM Manager menu.
Also for a reason, I cannot boot into ClockworkMod Recovery. I only have hboot. Hboot lets you install a ROM only with the name update.zip. But even though I have renamed the last OpenDesire ROM as update.zip, it won't install it cause it doesn't have the proper signature.
So I'm kinda stuck with a semi bricked HTC Desire. Any suggestions?
(And just for the record, yeah, lesson learned... )
Are you s-off? If so, just flash a new recovery image through fastboot.
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Wrong forum, Q/A should be right...
Try flashing clockwork over fastboot:
"fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-2.5.0.7-bravo.img"
Put your SD in your computer and copy a ROM.zip on it, than flash as usual ?
Why why why??
What have you learnt from this mistake? Yes, ALWAYS install a custom recovery. Saves you this kind of trouble.
Okay I'm of no help, but I just wanted to tell.
@markuz85 No I'm s-on. In order to change to s-off I need to boot into device (right?).
@westernmg I'm trying to but adb shows no devices and I'm kinda stuck there.
Any suggestions?
Thank you in advance...
Try to pull out the battery and wait a few seconds then power on the phone again and press power+vol- and select recovery.If this don't work try to reflash an official htc desire rom renamed in update.zip from hboot.
Thanks for the answer. Can't find an official rom though. Can you point me at one?
@9600pro87 I did what you said but still nothing...
Try this: http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...3.00.32U_5.09.00.20_release_140022_signed.exe
Sorry, this is the correct link.
http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...9.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe
Run this program update from windows with the phone connected to the pc.
Am I missing something? These files are .exe. How am I suppose to use them?Shouldn't be .zip so I can install them via hboot?
aventinus said:
Am I missing something? These files are .exe. How am I suppose to use them?Shouldn't be .zip so I can install them via hboot?
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Run the program from windows with the phone connected via usb cable.
Oh ok, but as I said, I can only boot to the hboot recovery. So at what point should I run the .exe?
aventinus said:
Oh ok, but as I said, I can only boot to the hboot recovery. So at what point should I run the .exe?
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Hboot is ok, at least with phone off too if i remember right. The updater reboot the phone automatically.
It doesn't work. I get error [170] "Cannot connect to phone.." etc. Is it that I have changed the Radio?
I'm posting you the information on fastboot in case we can figure something out:
BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.80.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO 5.10.05.23
Mar 29 2010, 21:34:33
Any other suggestion?
Fortunately I solved the problem. This is what I did:
I basicaly rerooted my phone using Modaco's method. So when finished I had the default ROM again. Thank you all for your help!
Good that you solved the issue. But just so you know, that method of rooting is outdated. Rooting does not need downgrading, as of current hboots
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aventinus said:
Fortunately I solved the problem. This is what I did:
I basicaly rerooted my phone using Modaco's method. So when finished I had the default ROM again. Thank you all for your help!
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Good for you, now your desire is "live" again.

[Q] Bootloader issue

Hello everyone,
After I installed the latest official 2.3 RUU downloaded from the official HTC site, the system was crashing each time I used the camera.
So I decided to downgrade to 2.2...it didn't work
After trying, googling, reading for hours, i found this site : http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
I installed the tool, which, if i understand right, disables some security flag and provides the ability to flash a recovery rom. Everything worked fine, it installed then loaded the 2.1 recovery rom
I was then able to flash the stock 2.2 RUU rom
Now, here comes the point :
I then jumped to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 in order to try a custom rom
Followed the tutorial, but stuck at the point where the unrevoked tool reboots the first time the desire. It says "waiting for the boot loader"
Issue is : the boot loader is started but visibly auto-running the recovery image
This means I'm a little bit stuck..i can't understand how to overcome the fact that the bootloader automatically install this recovery rom
My questions :
1) The revolutionary-unrevoked tool I runned is just intended to switch this security flag off or is it also considered after the recovery as a rooting tool ?
2) At this point, with the idea to load a custom rom, do I still need to run http://unrevoked.com/recovery/ ?
-If yes, how ? (since after a reboot the bootloader automatically load the recovery image) maybe replacing the bootloader ?
-If no, may I proceed with the "Partitioning step" ?
3) I tough flashing a stock RUU rom would reset everything to stock (also bootloader) -> seems it's not the case. does this make sense ?
Thanks for your help
1) Revolutionary sets the bootloader s-off, you are right there. To get root access, you have to flash the zip from recovery which you find on the documentary side.
2) No, after flashing the zip there is no sense in running unrevoked (any more). To partition your sd card, you have two options:
flash a recovery which has the feature to partition sd card, e.g. RMD Recovery
use gparted
3) Ususally it does. Bu the new bootloaders with version 6.93.1002 have a overwrite protection against ruus or ota. To overwrite this hboot, you have to flash the bravo downgrader from alpharev.nl first.
thanks so much for this quick reply, so this was a all-in-one step.
now i just need to partition and i'm go to go
alvoryx said:
thanks so much for this quick reply, so this was a all-in-one step.
now i just need to partition and i'm go to go
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No problem, but do not forget the thanks-button.
Yeah, that's why revolutionary was created.

[Q] Trouble rooting (Is your firmware too new, backup CID is missing...)

I have a stock 2.2 HTC Desire:
Bravo PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.93.0001
RADIO-5.11.05.27
And I have trouble rooting it using unrevoked. I've tried dozen times, and every time I either get a "Is your firmware too new", or "Backup CID is missing". Tried using different PCs, did a factory reset, and still dosen't work. Can anyone help me?
Thanks, Ivo
Use Revolutionary method (http://revolutionary.io). Read the info document (link somewhere down the page). Install custom recovery if asked. At the end install zip from info page to root your phone. You will be able to flash custom ROMs afterwards.
Best regards
ivou said:
I have a stock 2.2 HTC Desire:
Bravo PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.93.0001
RADIO-5.11.05.27
And I have trouble rooting it using unrevoked. I've tried dozen times, and every time I either get a "Is your firmware too new", or "Backup CID is missing". Tried using different PCs, did a factory reset, and still dosen't work. Can anyone help me?
Thanks, Ivo
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Coempi said:
Use Revolutionary method (http://revolutionary.io). Read the info document (link somewhere down the page). Install custom recovery if asked. At the end install zip from info page to root your phone. You will be able to flash custom ROMs afterwards.
Best regards
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Good sir, is your brain lacking the function of processing data captured by his eyeballs into useful things? Yes? Well that would explain why you had not noticed that the man is already S-OFF.
What you need to do is go to WWW.alpharev.nl , and download the bravo_stock PB99IMG and rename it to PB99IMG.zip. once you've got that, put it on the root of your memory card (as in not any folders), poweroff and boot into the BOOTLOADER (not fastboot), wait for it to check for files, then when it asks you whether you'd like to update select yes.
You now have a fully S-OFF phone with a patched Alpharev hboot that gives you a lot more.
Now what you need to do is flash recovery, there is a guide for you on my guide, look in the contents post to find it.
After all that you can boot into recovery and flash custom ROMs. Don't forget to backup your current ROM before you flash a new one!! And also before you do flash, do a full wipe from \moubts & storage (format: boot, system, data, cache)
Thanks a lot Bortak, everything is working fine now

Soft Brick

hi
I tried to root a HTC Desire HD device
1. Unlocked via HTCdev
2. Installed custom recovery - clockworkmod 5.8.1.5
3. Tried to flash miui 6.1
now the device is stuck on boot ( htc logo)
I tried all the RUU files i could get, nothing works, error 191, 140,155
I created a gold card.
When i insert the empty gold card and reboot the phone, it remains stuck on SD checking
Loading PD98DIAG.zip
any ideas
i managed to get the goldcard working.
Still can't flash, some message about version is older.
Tried different roms.
The RUU exe still throws 191 error.
any ideas
Have you tried running the RUU when the device is in fastboot mode? That worked for me once when I thought I'd bricked it.
tried that.
error 191.
i need something newer that 3.13.0.0 i think
I'm starting to sound like a broken record. If you used the HTC unlock method you have to flash your boot img separately.
After flashing room boot into boot loader select fast boot and flash your roms boot.img
Fastboot flash boot boot.img
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marsdta said:
I'm starting to sound like a broken record. If you used the HTC unlock method you have to flash your boot img separately.
After flashing room boot into boot loader select fast boot and flash your roms boot.img
Fastboot flash boot boot.img
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA
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Lol.... maybe you ought to keep a copy paste of the answer handy so you don't need to type the same thing over and over again
Sent from a dream.
found the solution.
reboot to fastboot.
unzip the PD98IMG.zip copy the boot.img and system.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot reboot
after the phone reboots stock 2.3.5 will be on, 3.12.405.1.
Managed to gain root with some zip installed with clockworkmod.
Now i can't find a solution to s-off.
noxaro said:
found the solution.
reboot to fastboot.
unzip the PD98IMG.zip copy the boot.img and system.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot reboot
after the phone reboots stock 2.3.5 will be on, 3.12.405.1.
Managed to gain root with some zip installed with clockworkmod.
Now i can't find a solution to s-off.
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noxaro, if you wanted to gain S-OFF and root, you should have run the Hack Kit...HTCDEV is not a good idea....maybe a little more research would have leaded you here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
hi
i know about the ACE hack kit.
Not working with my Desire HD 3.12.405.1.
i managed to obtain, root, s-off etc..
here are my steps
1.download RUU 2.50.405.2 from http://shipped-roms.com/
2. run it, after the first window, go search on C drive for rom.zip
3. use 7z to unpack
4. copy boot.img and system.img
5.reboot phone in fastboot mode, phone must be unlocked via htcdev method
6.fastboot flash boot boot.img
7.fastboot flash system system.img
8.fastboot reboot.
9. after the phone reboots follow the welcome steps.
- go to development, enable usb debugging, enable unknown sources
- go to power disable fastboot
10.Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
11. enjoy root, s-off, clockworkmod recovery
12. now you can flash any rom.
Thanks for all the help
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noxaro said:
hi
i know about the ACE hack kit.
Not working with my Desire HD 3.12.405.1.
i managed to obtain, root, s-off etc..
here are my steps
1.download RUU 2.50.405.2 from http://shipped-roms.com/
2. run it, after the first window, go search on C drive for rom.zip
3. use 7z to unpack
4. copy boot.img and system.img
5.reboot phone in fastboot mode, phone must be unlocked via htcdev method
6.fastboot flash boot boot.img
7.fastboot flash system system.img
8.fastboot reboot.
9. after the phone reboots follow the welcome steps.
- go to development, enable usb debugging, enable unknown sources
- go to power disable fastboot
10.Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
11. enjoy root, s-off, clockworkmod recovery
12. now you can flash any rom.
Thanks for all the help
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It won't work if u are running GB and downgrade to Froyo...That will mess your bootloader...just don't downgrade to froyo by any means!! Hack Kit works for all builds and version, just have to downgrade first in some cases...
glevitan said:
It won't work if u are running GB and downgrade to Froyo...That will mess your bootloader...just don't downgrade to froyo by any means!!
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First of all 2.50.405.2 is GB an not Froyo so no problem there I guess.
glevitan said:
Hack Kit works for all builds and version, just have to downgrade first in some cases...
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That doesn't sound like works on all builds and versions.
It does not work on the mentioned version 3.12.405.1
I have the same situation. But within a couple of months my phone contract will end and I will extend this with a new phone. At that moment I will try to install some custom ROMS on my Desire HD. So first downgrade to 2.50.405.2, get root and S-Off (which I by the way already have (Ship S-off to be precise))
And than install ClockWorkMod and install custom rom.
I tried to install CWM from fastboot but did not manage to successfully complete this. I think because I have Ship S-Off and not ENG S-Off.
Rudios said:
That doesn't sound like works on all builds and versions.
It does not work on the mentioned version 3.12.405.1
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AAHK has supported 3.12.40.5.1 since version AAHK 10122011, It does not and will not support HTC dev unlocked devices. Although version 3.12.40.5.1 does need downgrading, this step is carried out by AAHK. AAHK is by far the safest and easiest method of obtaining root IMHO.
Rudios said:
First of all 2.50.405.2 is GB an not Froyo so no problem there I guess.
That doesn't sound like works on all builds and versions.
It does not work on the mentioned version 3.12.405.1
I have the same situation. But within a couple of months my phone contract will end and I will extend this with a new phone. At that moment I will try to install some custom ROMS on my Desire HD. So first downgrade to 2.50.405.2, get root and S-Off (which I by the way already have (Ship S-off to be precise))
And than install ClockWorkMod and install custom rom.
I tried to install CWM from fastboot but did not manage to successfully complete this. I think because I have Ship S-Off and not ENG S-Off.
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umm...it seems that u need to give a look at the manual again. All builds 3.x are not directly rootable, so you need to downgrade. The Hack Kit prompts you about that, and do it in case you are willing to.
Just one tip, if you install ENG S-OFF you will mess your bootloader...so, I would check the manual and the hack kit thread just see what you not supposed to do..
Rudios said:
First of all 2.50.405.2 is GB an not Froyo so no problem there I guess.
That doesn't sound like works on all builds and versions.
It does not work on the mentioned version 3.12.405.1
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Yes it does, but a downgrade is needed first. The hack kit automates it all as much as possible, even the initial downgrade.
The bootloader MUST be relocked and the the ROM stock.
ghostofcain said:
AAHK has supported 3.12.40.5.1 since version AAHK 10122011, It does not and will not support HTC dev unlocked devices. Although version 3.12.40.5.1 does need downgrading, this step is carried out by AAHK. AAHK is by far the safest and easiest method of obtaining root IMHO.
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Just relock the bootloader with a stock rom/recovery installed and the hack kit will work fine.
Many thanks for this !!! I have tried this and it works very well
groovebiscuit said:
Have you tried running the RUU when the device is in fastboot mode? That worked for me once when I thought I'd bricked it.
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I used the RUU_Ace_Sense30_S_HTC_WWE_3.12.405.1_Radio_12.65.60.29_26.14.04.28_M_release_225512_signed file with no problem, and finally I recover my phone again
HTC Soft brick?
Hello,
I tried to flash MoKee Rom yesterday, I downloaded the file from their website but on the screen it told me that there was an error because the rom wasn't for my Desire HD. Tried downloading twice and flash it again and same error appears. So I tried to install Cyanogenmod 11. Everything seems to be ok but when I reboot the phone it doesen't move from the white screen with HTC written on it. What can I do? I did everythime all the wipes needed (cache, dalvick, system). I've unlocked the bootloader with Windroid Tool and installed TWRP recovery with it.
I can get into fastboot and recovery mode. When I get into fastboot I have the following details:
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0029
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.14.04.28_M
eMMC-BOOT
Dec 22 2011, 14:28:19
Can anyone help me fixing this? thank you very much
U are s on. You have to flash boot.img via fastboot
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MicMeadow said:
Hello,
I tried to flash MoKee Rom yesterday, I downloaded the file from their website but on the screen it told me that there was an error because the rom wasn't for my Desire HD. Tried downloading twice and flash it again and same error appears. So I tried to install Cyanogenmod 11. Everything seems to be ok but when I reboot the phone it doesen't move from the white screen with HTC written on it. What can I do? I did everythime all the wipes needed (cache, dalvick, system). I've unlocked the bootloader with Windroid Tool and installed TWRP recovery with it.
I can get into fastboot and recovery mode. When I get into fastboot I have the following details:
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0029
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.14.04.28_M
eMMC-BOOT
Dec 22 2011, 14:28:19
Can anyone help me fixing this? thank you very much
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Did you heed my advice?
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Ugh
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[Q] Flash Stock Recovery with current CWM Recovery 4.0.0.5

Hello,
I have a question that I have been searching for the last several hours for an answer. I currently have 5.10.605.9 stock with the HTC unlock method and rooted using the OneClickRoot_1.1 tool. I am not looking for S-OFF for the time being but if its necessary I'll do it. What I would like to do is remove the CWM 4.0.0.5 Recovery and replace it with the stock recovery that came with the phone. The 5.10.605.9 version has been the only version of Android installed on the phone and this is the version that it came with. Its been a while since I flashed the CWM so I don't remember exactly what guide I used, so I cannot reference that guide. There have been several guides I have come across but none that fit my exact situation or phone so I am kinda leery about following them.
I have spent several hours reading about RUU's and this seems like the easiest way but since I have the HTC unlock I cannot flash the same version I currently have, I have to have a newer version. That is my understanding at least. Is there a RUU available for the latest version, 6.01.605.05?
Since the CWM recovery was just flashed using the command line (if my memory serves me right) is it possible just to extract the recovery from a 5.10.605.9 stock build and flash that using the command line? I have a stock build and I notice a recovery_signed.img file, similar to the cwm-recovery-vivow.img file.
Well that was several questions but if anyone could be of any help it would be greatly appreciated. If its not possible its fine, I'm due for an upgrade soon anyway..... I'm just looking to be able to walk into Verizon and see about possibly getting a replacement, the speaker is starting to sound tinny and I am having and occasional 3G problem.
Thanks!!!
Misc Info
VIVO_W XB SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-0.98.0000
RADIO-1.09.01.1111
eMMC-BOOT
Jul 18 2011, 12:39:36
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599767
That will put your phone to stock and.will be able to get replacement. Do not.flash. put on root of SD card and load through bootloader. Works 100% this will put factory recovery also. Very easy
sk842018 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599767
That will put your phone to stock and.will be able to get replacement. Do not.flash. put on root of SD card and load through bootloader. Works 100% this will put factory recovery also. Very easy
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Thank you for your replay but unfortunately I have tried this post several times in the past, guess I should have mentioned that. However I did tried it again with the same results, "WRONG ZIPPED IMAGE". I have double checked hash as well and the name being PG32IMG.zip, not PG32IMG.zip.zip. I have used 2 different microSD cards, one being freshly formatted. Both of them are formatted as FAT32. My understanding is this error is because I currently have 5.10.605.9 and cant flash the same thing over because I have the HTC unlock.
Should be fastboot flash recovery.img
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tylerlawhon said:
Should be fastboot flash recovery.img
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Just extract the recovery image from the link sk842018 provided and flash that using fastboot flash recovery.img?
jlaj1989 said:
Just extract the recovery image from the link sk842018 provided and flash that using fastboot flash recovery.img?
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Yes. That's how you install a kernel when you're unlocked through htc and I'm pretty sure it's the same process.
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tylerlawhon said:
Yes. That's how you install a kernel when you're unlocked through htc and I'm pretty sure it's the same process.
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That worked beautifully thank you. I didn't realize it was that simple. Since the warranty of the phone is up in 2 weeks I decided to take the plunge get S-OFF. Upon reading the steps for this process it says I have to re-lock the bootloader before I do anything else. Once I did this hboot read the RUU file just fine and asked if I wanted to proceed with the update. So I guess it is possible to flash RUU with the same version it just need to bootloader re-locked?? This makes no sense but I have S-OFF now and everything is good, thank you all.

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