Nand backup--- file size? - Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II

I got a Stock rom MA7, rooted w/ CWM GN2.
I did a Nand Backup to install a rom, before I installed the ROM I went to check the file size and it read 12.31 MB.
My question is, is this normal?, I reinstalled the stock rom twice and that's a 1.3 GB file, so I can't believe that a nand backup was so small in size.
I asked my buddy to do a backup on his AT&T version, and his was 17 MB file, how can a backup file be so small.

lexvdub1 said:
I got a Stock rom MA7, rooted w/ CWM GN2.
I did a Nand Backup to install a rom, before I installed the ROM I went to check the file size and it read 12.31 MB.
My question is, is this normal?, I reinstalled the stock rom twice and that's a 1.3 GB file, so I can't believe that a nand backup was so small in size.
I asked my buddy to do a backup on his AT&T version, and his was 17 MB file, how can a backup file be so small.
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Check to see if you are backing up the whole rom and not just data or cache or something.
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scottypeterson said:
Check to see if you are backing up the whole rom and not just data or cache or something.
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Sorry either you aren't checking the right files or your backup isn't selecting everything. I use TWRP but doesn't matter my Nands are usually about 4GB (but keep in mind I have a LOT of apps installed.) Most fresh installs would be similar to your installer .zip so around 1-1.5GB for nands minimum (unless you are using compression but you'll still only drop 20% or so file size.)

bhint15 said:
Sorry either you aren't checking the right files or your backup isn't selecting everything. I use TWRP but doesn't matter my Nands are usually about 4GB (but keep in mind I have a LOT of apps installed.) Most fresh installs would be similar to your installer .zip so around 1-1.5GB for nands minimum (unless you are using compression but you'll still only drop 20% or so file size.)
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I figured I should be getting at least a gig, I've never really used TWRP, I like CWM so I stuck with that. Could either recovery make the phone not do a full nand bu?

Cwm also uses a blog file. It splits the backup up into two different folders. Check for a blog folder. This is where tje majority of the backup exists.
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musclehead84 said:
Cwm also uses a blog file. It splits the backup up into two different folders. Check for a blog folder. This is where tje majority of the backup exists.
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I can't find a blog folder, but there is a "blobs" folder with 100's of small folders in it.
Should I change my Recovery to TWRP?

Blob is what he meant. Probably autocorrected
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patrao_n said:
Blob is what he meant. Probably autocorrected
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Yes thats it. Thats the folder. Damn auto correct.
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[Q] Way to tell what ROM from Nandroid

I have a few Nandroid backups and I was wondering if there was a way to see what ROM it's from without actually restoring from it.
thatlaoboi said:
I have a few Nandroid backups and I was wondering if there was a way to see what ROM it's from without actually restoring from it.
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Unfortunately there's not that I know of, I always label nandroid as soon as I make them to keep from forgetting. If you do start renaming them, make sure there are no spaces in the name otherwise you will get an md5 mismatch error (assuming you are on cwm, TWRP does not have this problem)
You just have to rename your nandroid backups on your computer. It's in your sd folder when you connect your phone under clockworkmod. I have 3 backups, and I name them after the rom /theme that they are.
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yoft1 said:
Unfortunately there's not that I know of, I always label nandroid as soon as I make them to keep from forgetting. If you do start renaming them, make sure there are no spaces in the name otherwise you will get an md5 mismatch error (assuming you are on cwm, TWRP does not have this problem)
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I am starting to do that, but like the ones from when I began flashing (about a month ago) I have like 5 nandroid right now. I think thats a bit excessive considering that I only used AOKP, Jugg and Stock. And thanks for the heads up about the md5 thingy. I don't rename them on my computer, I upload to box.net and add it in the description. That way I can keep my cluttered computer a bit cleaner. And I have 50GB so it doesn't really matter.
Use ROM Manager for backups as it gives you the option of naming the backup before hand. Personally I'm very specific on the names. I include the ROM, date, and other things like any mods or stuff like that
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Goofy317 said:
Use ROM Manager for backups as it gives you the option of naming the backup before hand. Personally I'm very specific on the names. I include the ROM, date, and other things like any mods or stuff like that
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I use rom manager also... So it's safe when backing up to add the name of the rom at the end of the date that it automatically designates for us? Thanks
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suaverc118 said:
I use rom manager also... So it's safe when backing up to add the name of the rom at the end of the date that it automatically designates for us? Thanks
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Yep. Name it whatever you wish
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CWM recovery Problem

Hello. I'm running clockwork mod touch v 5.8.4.7 and when I backup any rom it names the backup 1970.**.** I know that cwm v6 is out, however I prefer cwm v5 (I feel as though on my gnex the nandroids took loads longer to backup and restore. And also prefer the old backup method as opposes to the new one.) So here are my questions. 1)has anyone else encountered this bug. And 2)is there a different cwm version that's either newer but not v6 that doesn't have this bug?
I'm pretty sure this is a known bug which doesn't have a solution for the time being. What you can do is backup through Rom Manager; this way you can name the file whatever you want.
Davidion said:
I'm pretty sure this is a known bug which doesn't have a solution for the time being. What you can do is backup through Rom Manager; this way you can name the file whatever you want.
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Thank you I forgot about that :laugh:
Or try TWRP. It's WAY better in my opinion, but to each his own of course. Just a suggestion.
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Your question has been answered, but I would like to add two things:
ROM Manager can name backup folders for you, however, the datestamp on that folder and the included files will still say 1970. You can always rename the folder manually, also.
I was depressed about CWM's new backup methods with v6 as well. At least until I learned that it still has support for the old "full backup" method. I really detest incremental backups for many reasons. In my opinion, tar should be the default option.
To re-enable full backup mode with CWM v6, navigate to:
backup and restore > choose backup format > tar.
This setting saves, by the way. It stores in /sdcard/clockworkmod/.default_backup_format. This file contains the text "tar".
There is zero reason not to use v6 over v5. You can store backups on your extSD now. The only thing I don't like about it is total lack of UI organization. It is a total mess, but I love it anyhow.
jpolidori11 said:
Or try TWRP. It's WAY better in my opinion, but to each his own of course. Just a suggestion.
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I heard trwp keeps you from losing your imei. Not sure if its true or not. But I switched just in case
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vw65bus said:
I heard trwp keeps you from losing your imei. Not sure if its true or not. But I switched just in case
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No, it's just that the only people that have lost their IMEI have mostly been using CWM.

Back-Up with CWM?

Hi,
I went into CWM by pressing Vol up + Home + Power.
I selected back-up.
It backed up my stuff...but the file is ONLY 18mb??
Why? I thought it would be so much larger....like the stock image (1gb).
Did I do it correctly?
pappaellio said:
Hi,
I went into CWM by pressing Vol up + Home + Power.
I selected back-up.
It backed up my stuff...but the file is ONLY 18mb??
Why? I thought it would be so much larger....like the stock image (1gb).
Did I do it correctly?
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my backup is about 2.5 gb...i have like 50-60 apps installed..takes about 7-8 mins
jdiddy_ub said:
my backup is about 2.5 gb...i have like 50-60 apps installed..takes about 7-8 mins
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did i do it correctly?
pappaellio said:
did i do it correctly?
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cwm -> back & restore -> back up
you should see it scrolling through all the files and making a backup...minimum of a few mins (longer with the more apps and data you have)
Are you looking at the right memory card? The way you back up would seem like you back up on the internal memory.
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jdiddy_ub said:
cwm -> back & restore -> back up
you should see it scrolling through all the files and making a backup...minimum of a few mins (longer with the more apps and data you have)
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cwm -> back & restore -> back up
I did that already, but it ONLY takes ~30 sec to back-up.
I found the the Clockworkmod folder in my INTERNAL sd. (I don't have an external sd).
There are 2 folder in the Clockworkmod folder:
1. Blobs (1.8gb)
2. Backup (18mb)
The backup file is only 18mb??
I must be doing something wrong??
pappaellio said:
cwm -> back & restore -> back up
I did that already, but it ONLY takes ~30 sec to back-up.
I found the the Clockworkmod folder in my INTERNAL sd. (I don't have an external sd).
There are 2 folder in the Clockworkmod folder:
1. Blobs (1.8gb)
2. Backup (18mb)
The backup file is only 18mb??
I must be doing something wrong??
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apparently one of the new things that the updated cwm does is that it backs up incrementally...so you dont have to backup the entire system every time you backup
the "blobs" folder is the chunk of the backup...the other "backup" folder is the new/incremental back up...so a backup is now comprised of blob + backup file (i havent seen it so im assuming it has the date of the backup written somewhere)
at least thats what i gather from the article
if you want to read http://androidforums.com/nexus-7-all-things-root/597441-changes-cwm-backup-scared-hell-out-me.html
i guess im using an older version which creates a new folder and just backups everything up...which is fine with me...i generally keep 1 or 2 backups at most and with my new 64gb card its not an issue...i'll stick with the old method
jdiddy_ub said:
apparently one of the new things that the updated cwm does is that it backs up incrementally...so you dont have to backup the entire system every time you backup
the "blobs" folder is the chunk of the backup...the other "backup" folder is the new/incremental back up...so a backup is now comprised of blob + backup file (i havent seen it so im assuming it has the date of the backup written somewhere)
at least thats what i gather from the article
if you want to read http://androidforums.com/nexus-7-all-things-root/597441-changes-cwm-backup-scared-hell-out-me.html
i guess im using an older version which creates a new folder and just backups everything up...which is fine with me...i generally keep 1 or 2 backups at most and with my new 64gb card its not an issue...i'll stick with the old method
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You're right - There's a date on the 18mb file in the "backup" folder.
Thank you and everyone else for the support.
pappaellio said:
You're right - There's a date on the 18mb file in the "backup" folder.
Thank you and everyone else for the support.
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your welcome..
upon reading ive noticed that from v6 on it creates back ups with the blob folder
i am using cwm v6.0.1.5 and i still get the 1 folder (with date) backup method..which i prefer...no blobs
just wondering why it didnt affect me? i know you can set the method in CWM but i never changed any settings
also is the old format considered the .tar method?
It's because you are using a note 2. It seems to affects the galaxy s3. I know cause I am using both devices.
Edit: i just notice my gs3 have cm 6.0.1.2 and my note 2 uses cm 6.0.1.5. I'll try to test different version to see any difference.
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whatsitsnamenow said:
It's because you are using a note 2. It seems to affects the galaxy s3. I know cause I am using both devices.
Edit: i just notice my gs3 have cm 6.0.1.2 and my note 2 uses cm 6.0.1.5. I'll try to test different version to see any difference.
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isnt the OP also using a note 2? hes posting in the note 2 forum
Only thing is i don't what version of cwm he is using. I am using the same cwm as you on my note 2 and it backs up to a single file (my prefer choice). My GS3 with cwm 6.0.1.2 spits out 2 folders, one being that blog file.
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whatsitsnamenow said:
Only thing is i don't what version of cwm he is using. I am using the same cwm as you on my note 2 and it backs up to a single file (my prefer choice). My GS3 with cwm 6.0.1.2 spits out 2 folders, one being that blog file.
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yeah...lets see if he responds...although from what i read v6+ has blobs...but ours doesnt
jdiddy_ub said:
yeah...lets see if he responds...although from what i read v6+ has blobs...but ours doesnt
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I'm using CWM version 6.0.1.4-jb
Modify by xiaulu
Btw I have the stock Tmobile OS.

Online nandroid screwed me. Or did it? Help.

So I made a backup of my Aokp rom with a long times worth of tweaks and settings, with online nandroid. I flashed another rom and hated it, so I went to go restore my backup and it was nowhere to be found in CWM. Does anyone have any idea where it went? I couldn't find it in the backup folder and onandroid didn't make a folder in my SD
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randyhutton21 said:
So I made a backup of my Aokp rom with a long times worth of tweaks and settings, with online nandroid. I flashed another rom and hated it, so I went to go restore my backup and it was nowhere to be found in CWM. Does anyone have any idea where it went? I couldn't find it in the backup folder and onandroid didn't make a folder in my SD
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check the blobs folder
Don't seem to have one. I ran a search in my file manager and it didn't find anything. Would it be a sub folder in one of the other ones on the root of the SD?
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randyhutton21 said:
Don't seem to have one. I ran a search in my file manager and it didn't find anything. Would it be a sub folder in one of the other ones on the root of the SD?
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i stopped using cwm a while bac,k use twrp now much better imho. it should be in the internal sd card under cwm-backup-blobs.
Can you post the log file at /data/local/tmp/onandroid.log
Did you save the backup to the internal SD and accidentally wipe it while flashing the new ROM you didn't "care" for? Hate is such a strong word especially here..it comes down to user preference..no ROM.is a bad ROM really..its just what you want to get out of it.
One more reason for me to not use the online nandroids. Never liked the sound of if when it came out. Too many things can go wrong.
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[Q] Need help Clockwork recovery failed backup

Hey guys yesterday i tried to make a backup using clockwork recovery and it failed and now when i check my memory it says 800 free of 12.0 gb.
I dont know what to do there is no file or anything. Should i try to format my card?
killtrippy said:
Hey guys yesterday i tried to make a backup using clockwork recovery and it failed and now when i check my memory it says 800 free of 12.0 gb.
I dont know what to do there is no file or anything. Should i try to format my card?
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Still need help please! I really dont want to replace my S3 for $125. Im sure something is able to fix it
What version of CWM do you have and what ROM are you running? And did you have that little space left all along or was it only after you tried making a backup?
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aussie88 said:
What version of CWM do you have and what ROM are you running? And did you have that little space left all along or was it only after you tried making a backup?
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Im not sure but its not that i tried to backup a stock version of the latest legit ROM from samsung and it failed and phone restarted and now it show like 500 mb's left on my phone. I check all files on the phone and nothing is taking up space all the files on my phone together is like 2gb. not sure whats wrong. I installed a different rom to check if thats a issue with the stock Samsung ROM but nope it still same.
EDIT: I just tried to format the DATA partition which it shows takes up 12GB but didnt do anything.
Well if you're running an older version of CWM, you will have issues with any 4.3 roms, stock or not. I would firstly upgrade to the latest version of CWM, and then if you can, use a root Explorer either on your phone or laptop to see hidden files.
I personally had an issue due to having an older version of CWM, and I had a few gb of data hidden behind a bunch of nested 0 folders.
If you still don't see anything, then maybe a format of the internal SD thru CWM is in order. Hopefully you have/are able to back up all that info before you need to do that tho.
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aussie88 said:
Well if you're running an older version of CWM, you will have issues with any 4.3 roms, stock or not. I would firstly upgrade to the latest version of CWM, and then if you can, use a root Explorer either on your phone or laptop to see hidden files.
I personally had an issue due to having an older version of CWM, and I had a few gb of data hidden behind a bunch of nested 0 folders.
If you still don't see anything, then maybe a format of the internal SD thru CWM is in order. Hopefully you have/are able to back up all that info before you need to do that tho.
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I am running the LATEST version of CWM i remembered i checked like 2 weeks ago i can check again but shouldnt be a problem. Ill check right now with root explorer and see if i find any files. I already backed up everything on my SD card.

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