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I am coming from WinMo to the Epic. I am noticing a lot of bloatware on this phone and am wondering if rooting it and installing a custom rom the only way to remove these programs? I mean there is a lot of literal crap on this device from Sprint. Any help would be appreciated, I read through all the forums I could think of and even went to the wiki and read.
You can use "one click root",then get a program called "sdx app remover".
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thank you very much
jonny4 said:
I am coming from WinMo to the Epic. I am noticing a lot of bloatware on this phone and am wondering if rooting it and installing a custom rom the only way to remove these programs? I mean there is a lot of literal crap on this device from Sprint. Any help would be appreciated, I read through all the forums I could think of and even went to the wiki and read.
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SDX app remover will work, but another option is to root, then download titanium backup from the market. I use the free version and it's great. Using this app, you can make backups of you apps and app data (1 at a time, in a batch, or even set overnight schedules). This comes in handy whether flashing roms, if a program gets corrupted, or even if you download an update to a program that doesn't work and want to restore the prior one. Also, if you go to the backup/restore tab, you can see all apps on the phone. If you press on the app, it brings up options, one of which is uninstall. If rooted, you can uninstall anything (just be careful).
Welcome to the epic.
I had the same thought with my heroc long ago. But the stock rom minus bloat still is garbage compared to even the worst custom rom. With this epic was never a question...custom rom 30 mins after I got it.
You can always Odin back to stock...but you never will
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I guess I am worried about messing something up, I only started putting custome rom's on My touch Diamond after I knew I was looking for a new phone in the last 3 months. Is there just a bsaic Android 2.2 rom for the Epic, so I could start from scratch with my apps?
I would recommend Bonsai, but they seem to be busy screwing themselves over. Let's just say its a great rom, but they are making some pretty dumb moves in the PR category.
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then you should have contacted the health department.
so i am noticing some of these roms will root for me. I am looking at the bonsai thread, is it an all in one package. i am new to android rooting. i know on winmo i had to first unlock then run a ruu from my desktop.
You can use odin too load pre rooted roms. Which will give u cwm. Then u can change roms at your own discretion with out a pc. Look at the ratings and read the posts before u load a rom. Id also suggest bonsai 4.0 seems to the the most stable. And I have tried all of them.
Unless you do not care about pic msging and gps in which case definately check out cm7 aplha 3. Its androi 2.3 gingerbread .
one more question, if i don't like this how do i go back to stock rom, with winmo i just reflash old one.
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BTW, if there was literal crap on this device from sprint then you should have contacted the health department.
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Thank you for this. My keyboard thanks you for the mountain dew bath.
I have decided I actually like the Samsung ui but I can;t stand how many apps there are, I have 2 freakin Facebook apps because I can't remove the original and the newer one doesn't update the old one. So best thing to do is root and try and remove the stock apps I guess.
I already said this and no one answered. if something goes wrong, how do I go back to stock sprint rom? with winmo i just re run the rom package on my pc.
Just use ODIN. It's always right at the top of the Dev section.
thx, wanted to make sure that is the right thing, like i said i am a nOOb
I was in your shoes a month or so ago.
When I finally had enough time and bravery to mess around with the phone, I rooted and proceeded to brick my phone.
This bricking taught me a valuable lesson and its that the epic is very hard to permantly screw up. I also came from a winmo device before being hogtied and violated from palm and sprints marketin team but wounds healed and feelings of anger and sadness faded away when the epic decended from sprints hallowed halls. (Gg sprint marketing team on another successful campaign...)
Hope isn't lost and I would advise you to become used to your phone with the OTA updates (it should be at ec05) because unless you know what gains you are receiving from flashing a new rom, then it would be a pointless endevor.
Lurk more in the dev forums and play with your phone. If you have a question then ask and hopefully you will find a rom to fit your needs.
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I was rushed and wanted to further clarify a little on what I posted above.
The epic you have now OP should be on 2.2.1 EC05 Froyo if it's not that way now. This is the current update pushed from sprint and I personally had no problems with it. The amount of bloat you see vs the bloat you can't (CIQ...and others *too lazy to google or search*) is a factor to consider while deciding if rooting and customs roms are for you.
I know you mentioned Touchwiz and like you, I enjoy it. Rooting and flashing a rom can remove this but many of the current roms offer a version with TW either as default or baked in. This shouldn't be of concern because you will not notice much difference between stock TW and that provided in a rom other than how "snappy" it is.
I also recommended lurking in the dev forums, and I meant that. I'll look at the first page of a thread such as the ACS rom thread in dev. After seeing what's offered, go to the last page and work backwards, noting any issues or problems people are having. Do understand that people are more likely to post a problem than give praise so do not let those post steer you away, but just use caution and take notice of what's recommended to fix it.
Although this may seem long winded, I feel that a majority of people similer to myself will either conclude that rooting is hard and not mess with it, or become lost in the ever changing acronyms, root utilities, and overall direction to successfully root their device.
What makes matters even worse is that some roms can be so complicated to install and troubleshoot that the information you need to continue isn't already clear enough to you to correctly ask a question or troublesoot. You will see this reflected in post where phones are reurned to the store after it fail to boot.
So to restate what I think would be your best option (and others who find themselves looking to root and flash custom roms), you should lurk and study the dev forums along with general. Make sure current version of froyo is on your device from the OTA update (EC05 is current and you can check by Settings/About Phone/ and scrolling down towards the bottom. Become knowledgeable about what your phone can do, then if you decide that a new rom will make for a richer experience, then follow guides handed down from the roms themselves to help make sure you successfully root and flash your phone.
It can be a headache but it's worth the pain when you finally finish.
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thx, wanted to make sure that is the right thing, like i said i am a nOOb
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jonny4,
I,too, was in your shoes. I registered on this forum just to reply to your post.
I've had my Epic 4G for a little over a month and I've already tried several different kernels and ROMs. I've found that a good resource for learning how to flash your Epic is YouTube. There's a guy on there with the username "randyshear." He had an Epic 4G and made a ton of how-to vids about installing ClockworkMod Recovery, making Nandroid backups, and flashing various ROMs. Before my Epic 4G, I had never had an Android phone, so I was VERY new to the whole thing. Fortunately for us, the phone has been out for a while and many options exist. I recommend checking out randyshear's vids. He posts download links to all the ROMs he tries out. I've been using the Genocide 0.3a kernel that undervolts and overclocks the CPU to 1.2 GHz and I've flashed ViperROM Apocalypse 4.0.4 with EXT4. The phone has never been faster!
Make sure you get ClockworkMod on the phone and make a backup. Also, just to be safe, back up your microSD too. Trust me, once you get the hang of it, it's actually really fun to try out different ROMs to see how your phone responds. Good luck!
EDIT: I recently flashed my Epic with SyndicateROM Frozen 1.1.0 (EC05 Froyo) with the Twilight Zone kernel and I was completely blown away! FASTEST ROM/KERNEL COMBO I have seen yet!
here is basically what i hate. i just killed a bunch of apps and 3, Clock, amazon mp3, and qik video, that I have never used or setup are already running again. It is absolutely stupid that a program that has never been used or setup can run itself, reminds of me of spyware or malware, and because Samsung locks out removing of said apps it is annoying. I would be happy with the basic rom if all these extra apps weren't running or installed. I may try what the first person suggested. I know WinMo had a bunch of crap apps installed in the Sprint rom but at least those did not run on their own. I do appreciate everyones help, really and I guess if I plan on rooting I should probably do it within my return policy.
Hi all.
Been an Android user for about as long as it's been out there and I have almost always rooted and installed custom ROM's on my devices. Last year I finally managed to convince the wife to upgrade to Android (enter the ARC S). She was delighted but the phone was always a bit slugish. When the ICS update came out I pressed her to upgrade because I thought she would benefit from the upgrade and the speeds might improve. So after a few months she finally gave in and about 2 weeks ago I did the upgrade. Aaaaaaannnndddddd that's when it all went to hell. Her phone is slow. Soooooo painfully slow that even an old HTC Desire loaded with a Sense 3.5 / 4 ROM is outperforming it by miles. She is mad. Soooooo very mad at me since then for having made her phone all that much worse. Reading up on it I know now that the upgrade was a bust and that Sony dropped the ball with this one.
So now I am looking to redeem myself. Usually I'd just root the phone, slap on some recovery software and flash away a couple of ROM's and choose from them. But this device seems to be not so straight forward. So I am turning to the community for help. What I am looking to do is install a custom ROM that is smooth and fast and will stay that way for as long as possible. Preferably one that is JB based and as easy to get on the device as possible. Now I know that when this question gets put out there people are often greeted with the "flash 'em and try" response, but my wife is reluctant to let me do anything else to her phone, let alone experiment with many a ROM. So I am asking for opinions. Any ROM as long as it's fast. The ROM that gets the most positive opinions wins and that is what I'll flash and hopefully save my marriage
Please keep in mind the phone is SIM locked and not rooted. It's basically an original ARC S with ICS on it. I have no recovery or rooting experience with this device, so it would be lovely if this could be done simply. I don't really want to over complicate things and risk gorking the thing even more.
Thanks in advance to all you members out there!
Hi.
You could just have Googled best rom arc s and read one of the numerous threads on the subject, and these threads are just another variation of best rom threads which are also now starting to build up. Root and and remove crap, few build.prop and init.d tweaks and you'll have a nippy Phone that works as it should, install a custom ROM then she isn't going to be happy when something doesn't work and you're constantly taking it of her to sort it out.
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You could just have Googled best rom arc s and read one of the numerous threads on the subject, and these threads are just another variation of best rom threads which are also now starting to build up. Root and and remove crap, few build.prop and init.d tweaks and you'll have a nippy Phone that works as it should, install a custom ROM then she isn't going to be happy when something doesn't work and you're constantly taking it of her to sort it out.
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I did. And I actually considered (still am tbh) the Ultimate HD. But thought maybe there was something out there better and no frills. As for the root and decrap option, that's actually a pretty good idea. But won't the crap just load back? I mean, on most roms when I remove the bloatware it just loads up again via market. As for build.prop I don't know much. Could you just tip me a thread topic or what not and I will search. Or topics even.
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I did. And I actually considered (still am tbh) the Ultimate HD. But thought maybe there was something out there better and no frills. As for the root and decrap option, that's actually a pretty good idea. But won't the crap just load back? I mean, on most roms when I remove the bloatware it just loads up again via market. As for build.prop I don't know much. Could you just tip me a thread topic or what not and I will search. Or topics even.
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Best thing is to try honestly (I wouldn't say ultimate hd is a bad choice )
And bloatware wouldn't load back once you've removed them so dont worry
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jman2131 said:
Best thing is to try honestly (I wouldn't say ultimate hd is a bad choice )
And bloatware wouldn't load back once you've removed them so dont worry
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Thanks. Will have to consider it.
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Try Ultimate HD 2.0.3 / Xperia T ROM
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Thanks. Will have to consider it.
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I have been using that ROM for around a week now and my phone is faster than ever.. The only issue seems to be in sending items via bluetooth (accept works smooth, but the option in send via is missing). But if your wife doesn't use that much bluetooth file sharing, then I'd recommend this ROM. Another good choice would be XPERIA T ROM for Arc S - Comparatively its a tad bit slower (not noticeable) but loads of more features (WalkMan has GraceNote, ClearAudio. Album has SenseMe etc.) Both are stable for daily use.
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I have been using that ROM for around a week now and my phone is faster than ever.. The only issue seems to be in sending items via bluetooth (accept works smooth, but the option in send via is missing). But if your wife doesn't use that much bluetooth file sharing, then I'd recommend this ROM. Another good choice would be XPERIA T ROM for Arc S - Comparatively its a tad bit slower (not noticeable) but loads of more features (WalkMan has GraceNote, ClearAudio. Album has SenseMe etc.) Both are stable for daily use.
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Thank you for the input. Bluetooth is not an issue. She rarely uses it at all. So yes, I'll keep it in mind. I'll have to decide till tomorrow morning seeing as how I am going to try to get it done over the weekend. To those of you that took the time to reply, my thanks!
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Thank you for the input. Bluetooth is not an issue. She rarely uses it at all. So yes, I'll keep it in mind. I'll have to decide till tomorrow morning seeing as how I am going to try to get it done over the weekend. To those of you that took the time to reply, my thanks!
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So did you install one finally??
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So did you install one finally??
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Actually, no. She forbade me
I'm guessing she's scared it'll just get worse or I'll mess it up even more. She won't even allow me to root it. At this point, I am hoping that some official fix comes along so that I can at least get her phone back to acceptable status. It's sooooooo slow. My old HTC Desire flies like a bat with a lit match stuck up it's butt compared to her Arc S right now. I mean, pulling up the phone dialer takes literally between 7 to 17 seconds to open just the dialer. And don't even dare to tap "contacts" because it can take you the best part of 30 seconds to see them appear.
SONY didn't just drop the ball with releasing this update; they bloody well stabbed it with a hunting knife to deflate it first so the ball would never bounce again... and then they dropped it.
Really, I am so sad for her every time I see her trying to do something on her phone. She used to love it. Now I see her turning away from it every chance she gets. It's really heartbreaking, and I am not trying to be funny. It really does pain me to see this happen.
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Actually, no. She forbade me
I'm guessing she's scared it'll just get worse or I'll mess it up even more. She won't even allow me to root it. At this point, I am hoping that some official fix comes along so that I can at least get her phone back to acceptable status. It's sooooooo slow. My old HTC Desire flies like a bat with a lit match stuck up it's butt compared to her Arc S right now. I mean, pulling up the phone dialer takes literally between 7 to 17 seconds to open just the dialer. And don't even dare to tap "contacts" because it can take you the best part of 30 seconds to see them appear.
SONY didn't just drop the ball with releasing this update; they bloody well stabbed it with a hunting knife to deflate it first so the ball would never bounce again... and then they dropped it.
Really, I am so sad for her every time I see her trying to do something on her phone. She used to love it. Now I see her turning away from it every chance she gets. It's really heartbreaking, and I am not trying to be funny. It really does pain me to see this happen.
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Yes, and atheistically Arc S is an awesome phone. And since its good under the hood as well, with a good custom FW, it really flies. My condolences to you my friend. However I have used Arc with stock FW as well, hence will suggest you some tips to enhance performance
1. Disable FaceBook Inside Xperia - It lags the system like hell
2. Remove the Timescape widget and live wallpapers if set.
3. Disable AutoSync if possible or keep it on for accounts other than FaceBook
4. Clear messages and call history a few days - I know it sounds strange - but it sure used to speed up my Arc.
5. Using tools like App Cache Cleaner and RAM Booster can help speed it up
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Yes, and atheistically Arc S is an awesome phone. And since its good under the hood as well, with a good custom FW, it really flies. My condolences to you my friend. However I have used Arc with stock FW as well, hence will suggest you some tips to enhance performance
1. Disable FaceBook Inside Xperia - It lags the system like hell
2. Remove the Timescape widget and live wallpapers if set.
3. Disable AutoSync if possible or keep it on for accounts other than FaceBook
4. Clear messages and call history a few days - I know it sounds strange - but it sure used to speed up my Arc.
5. Using tools like App Cache Cleaner and RAM Booster can help speed it up
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Thanks for those tips. Will surely come in handy. How can I disable FB in the Arc? I know how to remove the account, but I think it's somehow integrated into the ROM, right? Is that what you meant?
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Thanks for those tips. Will surely come in handy. How can I disable FB in the Arc? I know how to remove the account, but I think it's somehow integrated into the ROM, right? Is that what you meant?
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He didn't mean Facebook itself, but Facebook inside Xperia. It's that awesome feature that let's you do things you don't need to... seriously. I don't remember well where it is in settings, but it is there (I flashed a custom JB rom so I can't tell you where it is). I guess it was in "Xperia" but I'm not sure on that one. Autosync takes a huge amount of the guilt for making it slower, allow it only when you enable wifi, if possible. Check RAM usage, and look for apps that are not in use, and uninstall them.
If you really want it fast, then why not flashing a GB lightweighted Rom or even the debloated stock one? There are quite a few around here that you can flash. Just check the development section. It won't have a lot of features as ICS does, but as this phone was designed for GB, it will run in a decent way.
I used Ultimate HD for a while, and let me tell you, it was great. It offers very nice features. 5x4 apps drawer like in Xperia T (also Xperia T's boot animation); very nice design; on-screen buttons at choice; quick toggle panel (that is really handy); walkman app; new calendar app; the new album app that allows you to see the photos on map (if geotag was allowed when taken); included overclocking tool; and much more, being quite fast at the same time. I just switched to JB for the sake of feeling JB in my hand! But of course, if I see that it doesn't suit me well, I'm going back to ICS, back to UHD.
If you really want to make it faster, your best choice is to convince her to flash a custom ROM. Stock is well aesthetically designed, but as you said yourself, laggy as hell. Some of those custom ROMs are even able to be used with locked bootloader (although I would recommend to unlock the bootloader, check link at my signature from the android soul community). My suggestion: Read. She won't, you will. The chances of schrewing it up are lower if you inform yourself of the risks. I usually do this: I read the OP, and then I go to the last 5 pages, and read some repplies. It tells me whether people are having issues recently, or if there's a common issue.
Good luck convincing her :fingers-crossed:
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He didn't mean Facebook itself, but Facebook inside Xperia. It's that awesome feature that let's you do things you don't need to... seriously. I don't remember well where it is in settings, but it is there (I flashed a custom JB rom so I can't tell you where it is). I guess it was in "Xperia" but I'm not sure on that one. Autosync takes a huge amount of the guilt for making it slower, allow it only when you enable wifi, if possible. Check RAM usage, and look for apps that are not in use, and uninstall them.
If you really want it fast, then why not flashing a GB lightweighted Rom or even the debloated stock one? There are quite a few around here that you can flash. Just check the development section. It won't have a lot of features as ICS does, but as this phone was designed for GB, it will run in a decent way.
I used Ultimate HD for a while, and let me tell you, it was great. It offers very nice features. 5x4 apps drawer like in Xperia T (also Xperia T's boot animation); very nice design; on-screen buttons at choice; quick toggle panel (that is really handy); walkman app; new calendar app; the new album app that allows you to see the photos on map (if geotag was allowed when taken); included overclocking tool; and much more, being quite fast at the same time. I just switched to JB for the sake of feeling JB in my hand! But of course, if I see that it doesn't suit me well, I'm going back to ICS, back to UHD.
If you really want to make it faster, your best choice is to convince her to flash a custom ROM. Stock is well aesthetically designed, but as you said yourself, laggy as hell. Some of those custom ROMs are even able to be used with locked bootloader (although I would recommend to unlock the bootloader, check link at my signature from the android soul community). My suggestion: Read. She won't, you will. The chances of schrewing it up are lower if you inform yourself of the risks. I usually do this: I read the OP, and then I go to the last 5 pages, and read some repplies. It tells me whether people are having issues recently, or if there's a common issue.
Good luck convincing her :fingers-crossed:
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Oh wow, thanks for the info! This thread is actually becoming more helpful then I expected. You can bet I'll keep trying to convince her. Also I'll check the FB issue and see if I can get something sorted.
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Oh wow, thanks for the info! This thread is actually becoming more helpful then I expected. You can bet I'll keep trying to convince her. Also I'll check the FB issue and see if I can get something sorted.
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Good luck on that one :highfive: And don't forget to click thanks on the posts that you found helpful
So good news! She finally had enough and can't stand the slowness anymore. I have the go ahead to do what I want to the device. So now everything is an option. So from what I gathered so far, first I must unlock bootloader. But this means formating the data partition, thus loosing everything.
Is it at all possible to root first so I can Titanium Backup the hell out of this phone first? LT18i running stock 4.0.4 and 4.1.B.0.587.
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Pitbull_Raven said:
So good news! She finally had enough and can't stand the slowness anymore. I have the go ahead to do what I want to the device. So now everything is an option. So from what I gathered so far, first I must unlock bootloader. But this means formating the data partition, thus loosing everything.
Is it at all possible to root first so I can Titanium Backup the hell out of this phone first? LT18i running stock 4.0.4 and 4.1.B.0.587.
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Yes. root it, backup your apps using titanium backup. (i recommend paid version) backup contacts and sms also. unlock your bootloader, flash custom kernel, (i recommend rush kernel), do full wipe (wipe absolutely everything except sd card of course since your backups are all there.) flash custom rom (preferably stock based roms since they are more stable. Try ultimate hd or jelly sandwich).
boot up for the first time, first boot usually slower. Complete First time setup, let it sit for awhile, like 5 minutes, install titanium, restore apps and contacts, make sure the apps are working. Some apps like line won't work after restoring with data from titanium and I had to clear it's app data first. set cpu governor to performance and add a bit of overclock (1.5 or 1.6). she won't know what these are anyway and she'd stop whining about lags. remember to set to overclock on boot. reboot phone and you're done.
I do this for my girl too. I'd still recommend ultimate hd 2.0.3. but you should mess around with the settings to see what it has to offer first. And also remember to search within their threads to find current unfixed bugs and their solutions.
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Yes. root it, backup your apps using titanium backup. (i recommend paid version) backup contacts and sms also. unlock your bootloader, flash custom kernel, (i recommend rush kernel), do full wipe (wipe absolutely everything except sd card of course since your backups are all there.) flash custom rom (preferably stock based roms since they are more stable. Try ultimate hd or jelly sandwich).
boot up for the first time, first boot usually slower. Complete First time setup, let it sit for awhile, like 5 minutes, install titanium, restore apps and contacts, make sure the apps are working. Some apps like line won't work after restoring with data from titanium and I had to clear it's app data first. set cpu governor to performance and add a bit of overclock (1.5 or 1.6). she won't know what these are anyway and she'd stop whining about lags. remember to set to overclock on boot. reboot phone and you're done.
I do this for my girl too. I'd still recommend ultimate hd 2.0.3. but you should mess around with the settings to see what it has to offer first. And also remember to search within their threads to find current unfixed bugs and their solutions.
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Very helpful. Thanks. I have TB paid version, so it shouldn't be a problem. Was just wondering how to root without unlocking boot first. I can see many a tutorial, but all seem to tell how to unlock bl first.
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you don't need to unlock bl to root... and once you unlock bl you won't need to root because most custom roms and kernels come pre-rooted. use flashtool to root. download flashtool if you haven't already. It's like the all in one toolbox if you're just a user.
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Will definitely look into it. Many thanks.
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Hello all,
First post, although I've been a fan of XDA for several years and have never signed up for an account as I have typically googled to find all my answers. I signed up yesterday to ask a perplexing question to me today. I've installed custom ROM's on my last couple smart phones and loved them for all the reasons I know many people on this site do. Now I got a GalaxyNote 2, I rooted it and installed CM10 - thrilled I must say...kudos to Skip for the great GN2 toolkit!
Then I found out that the multi-view and S-Pen from my research don't work on AOSP ROM's. What then would be the benefit of a ROM on GN2? Or have I not done enough homework to find the missing links? I did find this thread for mult-view but I'm not comfortable proceeding with it. I understand Papyrus works for S-pen.
To me with a phablet this big. These 2 solutions would keep me from staying rooted and return to stock. Yet, I truly love the speed and simplicity of CM10. Without all the Vendor bloatware - but that just gives me an overgrown smartphone... what am I missing?
Thankful for any/all your insights and suggestions.
Jason
I would try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2170142
It's asethically based off AOSP but has all of the great TW features. It's, hands down, my favorite ROM out at the moment.
JRL70 said:
Hello all,
First post, although I've been a fan of XDA for several years and have never signed up for an account as I have typically googled to find all my answers. I signed up yesterday to ask a perplexing question to me today. I've installed custom ROM's on my last couple smart phones and loved them for all the reasons I know many people on this site do. Now I got a GalaxyNote 2, I rooted it and installed CM10 - thrilled I must say...kudos to Skip for the great GN2 toolkit!
Then I found out that the multi-view and S-Pen from my research don't work on AOSP ROM's. What then would be the benefit of a ROM on GN2? Or have I not done enough homework to find the missing links? I did find this thread for mult-view but I'm not comfortable proceeding with it. I understand Papyrus works for S-pen.
To me with a phablet this big. These 2 solutions would keep me from staying rooted and return to stock. Yet, I truly love the speed and simplicity of CM10. Without all the Vendor bloatware - but that just gives me an overgrown smartphone... what am I missing?
Thankful for any/all your insights and suggestions.
Jason
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JRL70 said:
Hello all,
First post, although I've been a fan of XDA for several years and have never signed up for an account as I have typically googled to find all my answers. I signed up yesterday to ask a perplexing question to me today. I've installed custom ROM's on my last couple smart phones and loved them for all the reasons I know many people on this site do. Now I got a GalaxyNote 2, I rooted it and installed CM10 - thrilled I must say...kudos to Skip for the great GN2 toolkit!
Then I found out that the multi-view and S-Pen from my research don't work on AOSP ROM's. What then would be the benefit of a ROM on GN2? Or have I not done enough homework to find the missing links? I did find this thread for mult-view but I'm not comfortable proceeding with it. I understand Papyrus works for S-pen.
To me with a phablet this big. These 2 solutions would keep me from staying rooted and return to stock. Yet, I truly love the speed and simplicity of CM10. Without all the Vendor bloatware - but that just gives me an overgrown smartphone... what am I missing?
Thankful for any/all your insights and suggestions.
Jason
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Thank you!! I feel the same way, I love this phone's functions and don't want to lose any but I have been using cyanogenmod since the g1 days. Guess I will be waiting until they get a fully functional version going
I would try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2170142
It's asethically based off AOSP but has all of the great TW features. It's, hands down, my favorite ROM out at the moment.
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Can you update apps? There was a comment that one app couldn't be updated or it would cause issue??
Thanks for the quick posts... I found this... http://droidviews.com/2013/best-custom-roms-for-sprint-galaxy-note-2-sph-l900/
MIUI seems to be a decent ROM and has S-Pen and multi-view built in... Now I have a couple options!
I feel a bit better...
I'm downloading that AOSP Touch Wiz ROM right now to give it a go. Could be a better solution to my stock rooted MA7 with Apex Launcher Jelly Bean theme.
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JRL70 said:
... I rooted it and installed CM10 ... I found out that the multi-view and S-Pen from my research don't work on AOSP ROM's. What then would be the benefit of a ROM on GN2? Or have I not done enough homework ...These 2 solutions would keep me from staying rooted and return to stock. ... what am I missing? ...
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First, yes, you didn't do enough research. No biggie.
You have to remember, CM is still in beta and has a few things that do not work yet. If memory serves me well, they're listed in the first post for CM.
The multiwindow aspect of the GN2/GS3 is built into the framework for touchwiz and android. So, it's not likely something we'll see very soon in CM. I think they may be waiting for Google to implement into Android.
I don't know about the Spen. That may be more specific to the phone more than touchwiz, and that may be just something the devs are waiting for Samsung to release details on, or some dev to more reverse engineer.
Lastly, you don't have to unroot to be stock. A lot of people, such as myself, are rooted, but run stock roms. I run deoxidized versions to I can use the mutliwindow and have the 4-1 reboot. I like having root for some important apps, for me, require it, such as Titanium Bakcup, WiFi tether, and Busybox. It's not that hard to get rid of bloat when you're rooted. Just make a nandroid incase you delete something you shouldn't have.
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First, yes, you didn't do enough research. No biggie.
You have to remember, CM is still in beta and has a few things that do not work yet. If memory serves me well, they're listed in the first post for CM.
The multiwindow aspect of the GN2/GS3 is built into the framework for touchwiz and android. So, it's not likely something we'll see very soon in CM. I think they may be waiting for Google to implement into Android.
I don't know about the Spen. That may be more specific to the phone more than touchwiz, and that may be just something the devs are waiting for Samsung to release details on, or some dev to more reverse engineer.
Lastly, you don't have to unroot to be stock. A lot of people, such as myself, are rooted, but run stock roms. I run deoxidized versions to I can use the mutliwindow and have the 4-1 reboot. I like having root for some important apps, for me, require it, such as Titanium Bakcup, WiFi tether, and Busybox. It's not that hard to get rid of bloat when you're rooted. Just make a nandroid incase you delete something you shouldn't have.
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Thanks for your insight. I appreciate it. Also in my research, I read information where Android told Cyanogen to stop incorporating Multi-view and S-pen into their ROM's so we will have to see if that happens and the features ever come to light. CM's always in Beta... yes their Beta for GN2 is new - I get it and will have to see what happens. in the interim.. I'm looking for help from the members to find a working rom. Perhaps you can suggest the rom that you are using... sounds interesting and I'd much rather flash something that the dev's on here have cleaned up than try to do it myself... and yes, I do support with donations
Personally, I'm just running a deoxidized stock rom with Perseus kernel. The rom did have the bloat. I just deleted stuff I didn't want with Titanium backup, after making sure to back it up; it's a CYA move. I have goofed and deleted something that cause Google Play not to function. You kind of figure out what you can't and can delete without issue.
Right now, the stock rom does what I need and most of what I want. I haven't found anything I couldn't do because of stock. It would be nice to have hybrid functionality, but it's not a deal breaker. I personally haven't seen anything on AOSP that is a must have. Being rooted, must have.
I do like CM and thought it was a lot better than the stock rom when I was still using my Evo4G. I'm just waiting for CM to have everything working, other than the Spen and mutliwindow, before trying it out.
I would love to have something like Boot Manager so I can have mutliple ROMs loaded. When I had it on my Evo, I usually had three--stock, CM, and some experimental alpha or early beta. I haven't really seen anyone do a bare minimum stock rom. Those are nice, than you can just add the other feature you like instead of trying to get rid of what you don't.
SPen and multi window are samsungs intellectual property, ie they are proprietary code that an after market firmware can't incorporate with violating copyrights. Google won't let CM use the multiview feature, yet, as it is being incorporated into AOSP so they will have it in a future release. Googles already pushed the MV commits upstream its just not activated yet. There are other options if you're saavy enough to merge code and compile a rom for yourself such as cornerstone by onskreen, their code has gone fully opensource now so you can clone their git into yours and merge it with an AOSP rom of your choice then do the necessary modifications to the code and compile it.
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So far I've only run into two apps that are unable to update or having problems after an update. If you update youtube, you won't be able to sign in, which sucks. The calendar app won't update, also. I've tried deleting it and installing it from the market, but that still doesn't work out. Other than those two, everything else is fine. Dev did a great job
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So far I've only run into two apps that are unable to update or having problems after an update. If you update youtube, you won't be able to sign in, which sucks. The calendar app won't update, also. I've tried deleting it and installing it from the market, but that still doesn't work out. Other than those two, everything else is fine. Dev did a great job
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I'm running the AOSPNoWiz 1.4 right now and you also can't use your Samsung account without getting FC for Scloud.sync. I disabled my Samsung account and it went away.
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i just received this phone the other day. i rooted it last night with cf simple root with odin. it was very easy to root unlike my old htc one x! however, ive noticed this android os to be somewhat buggy. screen doesnt want to rotate sometimes and sms pic message will stall. any suggestions on roms or even kitkat or the version before kitkat? for some odd reason... this phone never upgraded the os the whole entire time my wife had the phone. i tried software update before rooting and it says it was up to date. very odd.
Well....
I suppose a good cleaning may be in order...considering the device was previously used by someone else...
I'd factory data reset the device in recovery then reload and sync everything again...
Once that baseline is established...then you'll know where it's really at run wise...
As for rom and OS suggestions....that choice ultimately comes down to you...
Run a few and get the feel for them...and read some user reports from the associated threads....
Then flash away and make this great device your own...
We have great users here with "a lot " of roms and development still happening...
And regarding the updated software you never got....
Don't take the official update to 4.3 unless you want a gimped bootloader with Knox security garbage....
Keep that sexy clean 4.1...loader and use a modded 4.3 rom instead....
Stock roms are slow and bloated anyway....
I won't name individual roms to try because that is often interpreted as a favorites list....and I have no favorites....
I like them all....because they let me choose the entire spectrum at will....
Read up....try em all....and have fun....
Happy flashing...g
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gregsarg said:
Well....
I suppose a good cleaning may be in order...considering the device was previously used by someone else...
I'd factory data reset the device in recovery then reload and sync everything again...
Once that baseline is established...then you'll know where it's really at run wise...
As for rom and OS suggestions....that choice ultimately comes down to you...
Run a few and get the feel for them...and read some user reports from the associated threads....
Then flash away and make this great device your own...
We have great users here with "a lot " of roms and development still happening...
And regarding the updated software you never got....
Don't take the official update to 4.3 unless you want a gimped bootloader with Knox security garbage....
Keep that sexy clean 4.1...loader and use a modded 4.3 rom instead....
Stock roms are slow and bloated anyway....
I won't name individual roms to try because that is often interpreted as a favorites list....and I have no favorites....
I like them all....because they let me choose the entire spectrum at will....
Read up....try em all....and have fun....
Happy flashing...g
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thanx for the advice. before rooting... i done a full factory reset. im kinda new with this rooting stuff. i always root and never upload roms and stuff. just use the phone to get rid of bloat apps. i dont know where to start with roms lol
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thanx for the advice. before rooting... i done a full factory reset. im kinda new with this rooting stuff. i always root and never upload roms and stuff. just use the phone to get rid of bloat apps. i dont know where to start with roms lol
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No worries...
The key is read....read...read...
The forums can get overwhelming with rom threads and mods...so...
Pick one of interest...and read it's instructions more than once....
The repetition will burn the process into your brain and make the process much easier...
The flashing of this device is pretty easy....but the steps have to be followed correctly or you'll get jammed up....
Start with the threads that explain the flash process and how it works ...
Once you've familiarized yourself with that...only then should you flash...
It's habit forming...so be careful ...LOL
The android platform is all about "you" being in control of the device....not that company named after a fruit....LOL
Take your time...as you have plenty of reading to do...
You wouldn't believe how sweet this device can run with a clean rom and the right kernel ...
Try it....you'll like it....g
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I just picked up a brand new one today, still on 4.1, and I agree it was quite frustrating to have auto rotate freeze and play store dl's a mess right outta the box
But it's alright, as soon as it gets its first full charge its gonna be draped in Slimkat weeklies from there on out. Setup Pie and it should be butter.
All credit to this ROM goes to rogersb11. The only thing I did was change the install script so that it works on the d2tmo. With that said, this is an unofficial ROM and is not supported in any way by the original developer. That means don't go bugging rogersb11 with any questions about this. It is unsupported. It is only here so us d2tmo users can enjoy his kick ass ROM until and if there is an official port.
I will help in any way that I can, this is what I am using for my daily driver right now and I love it.
The camera does not work. I don't use my camera much, so I am fine with that for now. If you need a working camera, then this is not the ROM you want on your phone.
A few notes before install.
Thanks to rogersb11 for the Cyanide ROM, TheGeekyNimrod for the d2att port, without which I could not have done this, and leonid002, because without his assistance, I would not have even known how to do this to begin with.
First let's discuss the bugs:
The AOSP Keyboard will continuously crash on you from the first boot. Make sure you have a Google keyboard APK at the ready. This ROM comes with ES File Explorer, thanks to rogersb11, who put the ROM together in the first place, so you should have no problem installing any APKs you need to install, even before replacing the keyboard.
Install Google keyboard, then disable your AOSP keyboard. One this is done your keyboard will work just fine.
The phone will self report as the i747, that is where this ROM came from. As soon as I find what I need to change to fix that, I will update.
I believe the camera bug is still here, havent tested it yet, so just download Nexus camera from the Play store.
Other than that, works great so far.
Anyway, now it is time for the... Wait for it...
DISCLAIMER:
Despite the quality of this ROM, it is an ALPHA build.
Neither I, or any developer is responsible if you brick your device in any way, you're neighbor steals it, your nephew flushes it down the toilet, or you somehow travel back in time to an alternate 2012 where the world comes to an end in December, resulting in your phone being destroyed. Any damage to your device is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
You should be able to use any current Lollipop gapps with this ROM.
INSTRUCTIONS:
Download ROM below
Install a recovery if you don't have one (I use TWRP Multiboot, found in this same forum)
Factory reset (wipe Dalvik, cache, you know the drill)
Install the ROM (link below)
Install Gapps
Reboot into Cyanide
Install Google keyboard (or maybe your favorite alternative, SwiftKey works, not sure about anything else yet)
Disable AOSP Keyboard
Enjoy.
CYANIDE ROM DOWNLOAD:
1-02-2014 https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95864024717074572
12-28-2014 https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95864024717073794
XDA:DevDB Information
Cyanide-L Alpha d2tmo, ROM for the T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S III
Contributors
reeferbob, leonid002, TheGeekyNimrod,
rogersb11,
Source Code: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95864024717073794
ROM OS Version: 5.0.x Lollipop
Version Information
Status: Testing
Created 2015-01-02
Last Updated 2015-01-02
One thing I like about this ROM over CM12 is that the option to adjust your DPI is baked right in. Another is the darker theme, and the fact that you can wake with the Home button once again.
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Thanks for taking the time to port this I will check it out in the morning
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Thanks OP
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Here's something for the webOS people: Download the app Swipe Home Button from the Play Store, and configure it so that swipe up brings up recents, and swiping far up brings up the app drawer. Do this and swap the Menu and Back buttons, and it feels that much closer to a Pre, albeit without a keyboard, and on much better hardware. I still wish I knew of a way to modify the recents so we could implement webOS 2.x like card stacks in some form. I will be trying to learn how I might be able to do that in my free time though, that was always my goal since I got an Android phone, was to try and make the UI as intuitive as webOS was. Lollipop delivered with that in a big way, but I guess I'm a little OCD and am nitpicking the small details at this point. I'm not sure how much of it is lollipop, and how much of it is from the Cyanide coder's skills, but it's snappy as hell, and definitely made huge steps towards what I wanted to see Android become.
Now just to get rid of Google's intrusiveness (because let's be honest, you lose much of the functionality of Android if you don't install the gapps) and still keep the functionality of fundamentals like the app store, Maybe a third party solution, kind of like Preware, would be the way to go about this? That still leaves the issue of fragmentation with different apps being in different app stores, however. Either way, this is the best Android has gotten for me, and I can only hope it gets even better, who knows, maybe somewhere along the way I will learn a thing or two and be able to help get there.
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Here's something for the webOS people: Download the app Swipe Home Button from the Play Store, and configure it so that swipe up brings up recents, and swiping far up brings up the app drawer. Do this and swap the Menu and Back buttons, and it feels that much closer to a Pre, albeit without a keyboard, and on much better hardware. I still wish I knew of a way to modify the recents so we could implement webOS 2.x like card stacks in some form. I will be trying to learn how I might be able to do that in my free time though, that was always my goal since I got an Android phone, was to try and make the UI as intuitive as webOS was. Lollipop delivered with that in a big way, but I guess I'm a little OCD and am nitpicking the small details at this point. I'm not sure how much of it is lollipop, and how much of it is from the Cyanide coder's skills, but it's snappy as hell, and definitely made huge steps towards what I wanted to see Android become.
Now just to get rid of Google's intrusiveness (because let's be honest, you lose much of the functionality of Android if you don't install the gapps) and still keep the functionality of fundamentals like the app store, Maybe a third party solution, kind of like Preware, would be the way to go about this? That still leaves the issue of fragmentation with different apps being in different app stores, however. Either way, this is the best Android has gotten for me, and I can only hope it gets even better, who knows, maybe somewhere along the way I will learn a thing or two and be able to help get there.
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another rom to play with thank man
In the future, I do plan to start officially building this for d2tmo. Just got a few things to get straightened out before I do. I have the device trees and everything, just gotta tie up some other ends before I dive into supporting two devices.
That said though, I will need testers as I don't own this particular device, and maybe someone to help d2tmo users trouble shoot problems that crop up specifically for their device.
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Thanks for taking the time to port this I will check it out in the morning
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So I've been running this all day and coming from latest nightly build this isn't bad at all still has some work to be done but its loli-goodness on our ol s3 that being said I did have a few hangs when listening to Pandora when trying to turn on screen an switch songs was at work an unable to see what exactly happened anyone else ? BTW thanks again
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The only things I've noticed so far are as follows:
Firefox makes Metro PCS think I'm tethering for some reason, except for, ironically, when I have request desktop site checked. Opera works great though. Not to mention, if you make sure to go into the settings and put Opera on Phone mode, the look and feel of it just kind of flows with Lollipop's multitasking cards, just horizontally scrolling and vertically closing.
I heavily dislike Chrome, so I don't use it, and couldn't tell you if it works or not, because I haven't installed it.
The stock browser kind of hung on me one time, but I haven't been able to make it happen again.
The phone shuts off without warning, it seems as soon as the battery goes down to 14%
As far as Pandora, I really haven't installed it, because I have Rhapsody. I may give it a shot and see what happens.
The Firefox issue probably has something to do with the lollipop user agent, as I know that this is how Metro blocks tethering. Still weird that it works fine with the other browsers though. Anyway, due to issues beyond my control, I probably won't be online for about two weeks after today, all my bills came up due at once so my phone bill will have to wait until next payday. The extra days off work the week of Christmas really put a strain on my finances. Sure I'll probably hit a hotspot from time to time, but my phone is my main internet connection at home. Hell, it's faster than cable internet or even any DSL connection I've ever had, so why spend the extra money? I'm really surprised how well MetroPCS works in Denver, even without an LTE phone. The HSPA+ is plenty fast. Before the T-Mobile deal, I had a Metro CDMA phone, in Texas, and it was atrocious.
But yeah, I have WiFi at work so I can keep checking in from time to time when I'm out on a smoke break, plus, I'm definitely keeping an eye out for new developments.
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I just got the new build installed, the dark color scheme is awesome. I just left in the check in the installer script for the d2att this time, and added one for d2tmo, maybe it will help anybody who may be testing across multiple devices.
In this one I've noticed the AOSP keyboard is working fine so far.
I will upload it as soon as I get the chance.
If you dirty flash over the previous build, make sure when you install the new build to reinstall the gapps. After its finished wipe the cache and dalvik, otherwise Google Play services will just keep crashing.
After reinstalling gapps, wiping the dalvik and cache, I got one Google play services error, but it hasn't seemed to affect anything.
Everything about this is the same as the build from rogersb11, I just edited the install script so that it installs on d2tmo as well. Just like the earlier build, it will be unsupported. There are bugs, and on an early build, that is to be expected. But so far, I've definitely seen an improvement.
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Installed and running pretty smooth. The previous build would randomly advance my clock by 5 hours and would show all incoming calls as from "private". The new build however does none of those things.
So far on the new build, music has crashed once but relaunching it fixed that. I was not sure what nexus camera to get, not to mention their permissions were a bit crazy so I went with Open Camera and it works fine.
Thanks for taking the time to make and port this. The t999 is starting to fall to the way side and I cannot afford a new device so being able to run 5.0 is a blessing.
Working perfectly Thanks to all the devs over at d2att right How come no devs have d2tmo?? Smh.
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Hey did a clean install and the rom is telling me I have no sim inserted? Anyone else running in to this issue or have a quick fix? I tried editing APN's but it wouldnt save???
Try installing the older build first, and then install gapps, let it run it's first boot, and let everything set up. Then reboot into recovery, and install the later build, reinstall gapps, and wipe cache and Dalvik. Then boot again as normal.
This has resolved a couple of issues for me, although I haven't gotten the insert SIM message with either of these builds. Can't thoroughly test anything until the end of next week though, my phone service is cut off until I can pay my bill on the 15th, and my WiFi reception where I'm at is spotty at best (on all my devices).
Also, I am on MetroPCS, not T-Mobile, I'm just using the T999 on their network.. Which I guess is also the T-Mobile network. Not sure if there are any major differences or not.
The only issue I've had was with su, and after installing SuperSU, a couple reboots, the last one was after changing my DPI to 240, I was able to gain root access.
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Hey did a clean install and the rom is telling me I have no sim inserted? Anyone else running in to this issue or have a quick fix? I tried editing APN's but it wouldnt save???
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You may need to update your modem. I don't know about the T-Mobile modems and their availability, but for most using d2att in any LP rom, this has solved that issue.
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I just installed it on my t999l. Will report back how it runs. Thanks for the ROM.
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Hey did a clean install and the rom is telling me I have no sim inserted? Anyone else running in to this issue or have a quick fix? I tried editing APN's but it wouldnt save???
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I just installed the newer version, and I have the same problem. My device is t999l. Did you manage to fix the problem?
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I just installed the newer version, and I have the same problem. My device is t999l. Did you manage to fix the problem?
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Yes I was able to resolve this by updating to the latest baseband/radio. Resolved the problem immediately, I used the latest one available dated march of 2014. Hope this helps.
jonesin said:
Yes I was able to resolve this by updating to the latest baseband/radio. Resolved the problem immediately, I used the latest one available dated march of 2014. Hope this helps.
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Thank you. I'll try that.
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Thank you. I'll try that.
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OK. I encountered one major issue that was a bit scary. Everything was working fine at the first boot (except for the sim card). But, I turned off my phone. I then powered it back on, but it wouldn't boot into Android. It would just get stuck at the initial boot screen and go black. I was able to fix this by removing the battery and restarting it. If anyone experiences this issue, try that.
I tried turning off my phone to boot into recovery, and the same problem happened. I'm going to reinstall the ROM and see if the problem goes away.