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Best way to make a full 100% backup of phone ?

Hi guys .. I have had my Desire Z for a little while and I want to play around with ROMs now ... I am looking for a way to make a *full* backup of the phone .. That means the OS itself, all its settings (alarms, personalization stuff, stored passwords, installed apps, etc ..), all application and personal data (both on ROM and SD card), etc ...
That is, one backup that when restored, returns the complete phone including all its settings and data to the state the phone was in when the backup was created ..
Now there are two Market tools I've found that claim to do something similar: My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, and I also hear that ClockWorkMod can create backups ...
But I don't know if these tools backup *everything* like I want, so any advice given here would be really appreciated ..

Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/

ahmadka said:
Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.

pmcqueen said:
never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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Hmm ... Are you absolutely sure that CWM backs up everything ? That is, the stock ROM, all my android's settings, sms, contacts, emails, list of apps installed, app data, my personal data (photos, videos, music, documents, etc ..) ? And does it also backup data from both the built-in memory and stuff on the SD card ?
Reason why I ask this is because this afternoon I came across a thread (can't seem to find it now) where somebody said CWM leaves some stuff out in backing up and then somebody else suggested using Titanium Backup ...
So I want to proceed with CWM only if you're dead sure that it backs up *everyyyyyythinggggg* ...
Btw, I don't mean to question to knowledge, I just want to be sure, thats all

cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
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Root + Titanium Backup.

How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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mmb_z said:
+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
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Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?

vikraam said:
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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When you root you will still be using your stock ROM, you then back up your stock rooted ROM. There is no way to back up an unrooted ROM.
Unrooted stock ROM's are available in the form of an official RUU most of which you will find if you read the stickies in the development section of the forums.
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ahmadka said:
Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
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Titanium will not back up the os, you can use to back up all of the system apps and data. But as a previous poster said this is not good a good idea as restoring them tends to be problematic.
And don't worry about your sdcard flashing roms will not affect any data on your sdcard.
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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ahmadka said:
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the only thing you could theoretically lose are photos, videos, etc that are stored on the sdcard... but this would only happen if you deleted/formatted the sd card. otherwise, they just move with you from rom to rom.
I don't know what people think titanium backup is for, but seriously... it's not as magnificent as it is commonly made out to be. its only real use is restoring stuff from /data (ie apps and settings). even then, it is known to be problematic. I have used it in the past but I finally got sick of it when I realized that half of the time I used it to backup/restore it ended up doing more harm than good.
CWM is the best option for making a full backup of EVERYTHING on your phone (remember, your sd card is not part of your phone... it doesn't get backed up/restored via CWM). restoring a CWM backup will revert your phone to the exact state it was in at the time of the backup.

I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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hardy1906 said:
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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that's awesome, but you will encounter problems with Ti backup if you try to restore anything from /system after installing a new rom. if you've come from one aosp rom to another, you might get lucky and not have any trouble (especially if they are a similar flavor of aosp), but if you try to restore anything from a sense rom's /system to an aosp rom's /system, or vice versa, you're in for a lot of force closing and general bass-ackwardness.
op: the BEST way is a nandroid backup. if you try and restore titanium backup apps and settings over whichever rom you've installed, you can almost guarantee something will be broken... just do it the right way and do a nandroid backup via CWM and save yourself the trouble.

Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?

ahmadka said:
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Not much really, there are apps available to back up sms and contacts will be synced to Google.

todo backup by easeus...free too. works great
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1) Root.
2) Install CWM Recovery.
3) Nandroid.
There's your backup.

How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)

glx-rider said:
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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A nandroid back does a complete back of system, apps, data, and settings. When you restore a nandroid your phone will be restored to the exact point it was at before you preformed the nandroid.
To back up apps and data, you will need to use an app like titanium backup. you then can restore apps and data, including game save and scores after you flash a new rom.
But it is not advised to back up and restore system data and settings with titanium back up

before i rooted i took backups whit MyBackup.
after you get rooted, take Clean CWM backup of your phone.
when you are up and running on a custom rom, take CWM backup, and back up downloaded apps whit Titanium backup.
If you are going from sense rom to sense rom, you dont necessaryli need to wipe your data and apps, so you don't have to restore anything. If you are going for completely different rom, you need wipe everything, after you are running in new rom, you cant get just the apps from cwm backup, it would restore your old rom too, so now restore your apps and stuff from TI backups. and if you don't like the new rom, use CWM backup to go back to your last rom.
so you need both backups cwm and Ti..
and as said before app backups might cause some problems when going from rom to rom
I have been jumping between different MIUI roms, they are basically the same so i haven't wiped anything(except dalvik cache) when flashing new rom, so everything will stay the way they are, and no ned to restore anything, if that's the case.
What comes to the stuff on SDcard, it will be just fine, if you want to back up your pics/music/vids, etc from your sdcard, just copy them to your computer.

easiest way to restore apps

From thunderbolt ? Without tibu and root? Market didnt sync

bump?.............

The Market doesn't sync your apps from one phone to another. You need to have selected the option to back up the info on your phone and have restore on.
You can find this in the Back-up and Reset menu

Ves said:
The Market doesn't sync your apps from one phone to another. You need to have selected the option to back up the info on your phone and have restore on.
You can find this in the Back-up and Reset menu
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thanks but I have both phones set to backup and auto restore....so you're saying your apps installed on your nexus from your old phone?

Yes almost all apps installed except for a few (Flash 11, Adobe Air, Adobe Reader). Most likely because they weren't compatible.

Ves said:
Yes almost all apps installed except for a few (Flash 11, Adobe Air, Adobe Reader). Most likely because they weren't compatible.
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Adobe Flash 11 is supporting ICS. Came out yesterday.

Yeah I can't seem to get titanium backup or mybackup pro to restore any of my apps, I'm rooted with custom rom verizon lte version
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So... this whole Google back-up thing; It restores all my (compatible) apps AND the data associated with them? ...
So If I flash a new rom... can/should I rely on this cloud backup thing to get my apps/data back, and is there advantage to using Titanium instead (other than not having to download the files)

Dmw017 said:
So... this whole Google back-up thing; It restores all my (compatible) apps AND the data associated with them? ...
So If I flash a new rom... can/should I rely on this cloud backup thing to get my apps/data back, and is there advantage to using Titanium instead (other than not having to download the files)
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I remember JBQ from Google talking about this on twitter a couple weeks ago. The option to let apps restore from the market with data is available for every dev to put in their apps, but very few actually use it.
I personally wouldn't rely on the market to restore the apps with data. For most apps, it won't restore data, just simply re-download the app fresh.

Why can't you use tibu? Put the tibu folder on your galaxy nexus and proceed to use tibu.. worked for me
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My GN automatically downloaded all my apps when I first signed in. Obviously this didn't include any previous settings. If this failed you could always try installing app brain on your old phone,syncing and then doing the same on your GN.
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Dmw017 said:
So... this whole Google back-up thing; It restores all my (compatible) apps AND the data associated with them? ...
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What martonikaj says is true. I've read it as well. The devs of apps just aren't that into it for some reason. It only restores the apps, not the settings (at least from the third party applications).
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Adobe Flash 11 is supporting ICS. Came out yesterday.
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I know, I was talking about prior to the flash release 4, days ago.

Advance Data Restore After Upgrading To ICS

Am I the only one having an issue with a advance restore of data after upgrading to a ICS rom? How do I go about just restoring contacts,sms and other data without causing a boot loader problem.

uwantjosh said:
Am I the only one having an issue with a advance restore of data after upgrading to a ICS rom? How do I go about just restoring contacts,sms and other data without causing a boot loader problem.
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Restore your GB backup and go to the playstore and download sms backup and call log backup apps. They work great and save everything in xml format. And you cant restore data from a GB rom to an ICS rom.

One easy way I always do to backup my contacts and sms is go into contacts, then select options and tap backup and backup to sd card.
Then factory restore/ install a new rom and then just restore your contacts from your sd card.
Hope I helped you out.

titanium backup will work in most cases. restore app first, and if you absolutely must, restore data for apps one at a time in case any apps dont play nice.

Thanks guys
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For reference when the ROM has a different base, you should avoid advance restoring because well... Different base. You can usually restore user apps+data with back up apps though
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hi im new to the forum and the android world, but isnt you can synch all your contact with Gmail , and when you add your gmail account all your contacts will be there? also apps i believe you can move to SD and files as well and just when loading t the new ROM will be there when you mounted the SD. please correct me if im wrong .
i used to be a iPhone user and itunes let you do your back up is a way to do the same with the android where you just hit one buttom and everything gets backe up and to restore is also 1 click

colombian.jam said:
hi im new to the forum and the android world, but isnt you can synch all your contact with Gmail , and when you add your gmail account all your contacts will be there? also apps i believe you can move to SD and files as well and just when loading t the new ROM will be there when you mounted the SD. please correct me if im wrong .
i used to be a iPhone user and itunes let you do your back up is a way to do the same with the android where you just hit one buttom and everything gets backe up and to restore is also 1 click
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Yes contacts sync through google
No, apps will not carry over between roms regardless of their location. Look into titanium backup or similar apps
Again, titanium backup. For one click restores, you'll need the pro version. Well worth it.
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Can I Recover An App File From A Nandroid Containing Titanium Backup ZIP???

I flashed the Eclipse 2.1 ToroPlus ROM last night coming from a stock AOSP 4.2....did the usual Titanium Backup before the flash.
Did the factory reset 3 times as well as format system 3 times like I do EVERY time I change ROMs (using latest TWRP)...
However once I booted this ROM everything (folders) was gone...like when you revert to factory with ODIN...just the basic files were in my root...
I never had this happen before...
the problem with this is I was using "Safe Notes" to keep ALOT of Admin info/passwords for numerous websites I do the upkeep on, as well as some bank info, money owed to me by others, etc....
Now, I DO have a bunch of CWM nandroids from previous backups...is there any way to go into one of these nandroids and extract the files for "Safe Notes" from a Titanium Backup "backup zip" to slip into the directory for the app?
I've done it before with a SafeNotes backup I made but that's long gone now...
I have backups of all the WidgetLocker, UCCW, music, etc. but I NEED NEED NEED to get the Safe Notes info back...
Like I said I've never had this happen before except for when I intentionally wipe everything via ODIN when returning to factory condition...I wasn't expecting it...
Also, what could cause this problem??
Was it because I came from 4.2 back to 4.1.2??
When I booted up after installing the new ROM I went to re-install my apps through Titanium Backup but they weren't there...perhaps that had something to do with the gapps package?
I thought that might be the case so I installed the 4.2 gapps package and still nothing in TB....
perhaps install CWM and restore one of the latest nandroids to recover the Safe Notes file/info?
if I could extract it from a ZIP from inside one of the TB/nandroid backups that would be sweet...but if restoring a nandroid is the ONLY option I guess I'll have to do that...
I *REALLY* need the info on that Safe Notes file...hope someone can help...

This is a great question, I lost my notes somehow with TWRP trying to upgrade to BAKED blackbean 7 on my Galaxy S3. Have you found a solution yet?

Titanium backup can restore apps and data from backups. Hit menu (3 dots) go to extract from nandroid backup. Hopefully it will have it. Some apps store information in other places and when that is the case it's lost. Should do the trick though
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Ever find a solution? I lost my SafeNotes data as well and NEED to get it back...

VonEsch said:
Titanium backup can restore apps and data from backups. Hit menu (3 dots) go to extract from nandroid backup. Hopefully it will have it. Some apps store information in other places and when that is the case it's lost. Should do the trick though
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StevePSK said:
Ever find a solution? I lost my SafeNotes data as well and NEED to get it back...
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If you have a nandroid backup and root you should be able to use TiBu or Nandroid Manager to restore your app data.

curti.nogg said:
If you have a nandroid backup and root you should be able to use TiBu or Nandroid Manager to restore your app data.
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I have both, but when I try to restore data for the app, SafeNotes then has what appears to be an empty data. I'm not sure if the database was stored somewhere else. I made a nandroid but lost my SafeNotes data after ODIN. I have tried to look around (mostly in the data folder) for a file I can use with SafeNotes' restore database option, but nothing seems to work :/.

[Q] Easiest way to "clone" two HTC Ones?

Hi all, I'm switching from Verizon to T-Mobile. After hours of searching, bricking, then recovering my HTC One (don't try flashing a T-Mobile radio to a VZW phone...) I've come to the conclusion I need to buy a T-Mobile HTC One.
I have my device set up the way I like it, with custom launcher, the way things are arranged, etc. Is there an easy way to clone my Verizon One to the T-Mobile One I eventually buy? Without having to reinstall everything and reconfigure all the settings? Thanks.

Use titanium backup to make a backup of all your personal apps and data (do not backup system apps or vzw apps). Then, copy your backup folder on your sd card from titanium backup to your pc. Once you get your t-mo one rooted. Install titanium backup and move your previous backup to the t-mo one. If you have titanium paid you can actually store your backup to a cloud and then download that backup to your new device. Hope that helps. That's how I've been doing things for years. I had a nexus 7 I setup the same way.
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Might want to look into the built in htc backup and restore feature built into the one.

Or pop in tmo sim and it should work
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disconnecktie said:
Use titanium backup to make a backup of all your personal apps and data (do not backup system apps or vzw apps). Then, copy your backup folder on your sd card from titanium backup to your pc. Once you get your t-mo one rooted. Install titanium backup and move your previous backup to the t-mo one. If you have titanium paid you can actually store your backup to a cloud and then download that backup to your new device. Hope that helps. That's how I've been doing things for years. I had a nexus 7 I setup the same way.
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That may be how I try doing it. Any ideas on how to transfer a few gigs of music and movies between the two? Without an SD card, I can't think of a way to do it faster than transferring it all to a cloud or computer.

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That may be how I try doing it. Any ideas on how to transfer a few gigs of music and movies between the two? Without an SD card, I can't think of a way to do it faster than transferring it all to a cloud or computer.
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That is probably your only option. You might even use your pc to put all your music and data into a zip. I have had trouble in the past transferring that much off of the phone not zipped up.
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You could also use an app called Nandroid Manager https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.bkrestore. It allows you to restore apps and their data from a nandroid backup, along with many other things.

cmlusco said:
You could also use an app called Nandroid Manager. It allows you to restore apps and their data from a nandroid backup.
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That sounds pretty cool. I might check that out
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Also just an fyi there is another cool app called Online Nandroid Backup https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup, which allows you to do a nandroid backup while still booted to the os. No need to boot to recovery. The only reason i mention it is that the two apps kind of go together and link to each other from within the apps.