I know Amazon has updated again and was wondering if this will create an issue with users of a rooted stock 6.3.1 or will it affect the functionality of the KFU for rooting? I'm not asking for myself but I'm sure many out there would like to know. I haven't run stock firmware since June 2012.
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I dot think there will be a problem. Amazon didn't say there were any security updates or anything, they just said it was performance updates and bug fixes. Well will just have to wait and see I guess
Yes it does
Sorry... I ran KFU again and it worked. 6.3.2. disable root but can be rooted again.
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I got some questions I hope you can help with. My mom has a Kindle Fire that she just got to use because she didn't have the proper internet (that's a long story).
Questions:
1. If she roots this and changes roms will she lose 'Kindle' functionality? Is there a workaround to get it back?
2. Does dual boot allow her to keep the original Kindle rom and have a custom rom?
3. She is out of town so I can't get to her Kindle right away. Does Amazon have some kind of OTA updates? Is there a way to disable them until she gets the opportunity to root? I don't want Amazon closing any security holes before the device gets modified.
Thanks!
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I got some questions I hope you can help with. My mom has a Kindle Fire that she just got to use because she didn't have the proper internet (that's a long story).
Questions:
1. If she roots this and changes roms will she lose 'Kindle' functionality? Is there a workaround to get it back?
2. Does dual boot allow her to keep the original Kindle rom and have a custom rom?
3. She is out of town so I can't get to her Kindle right away. Does Amazon have some kind of OTA updates? Is there a way to disable them until she gets the opportunity to root? I don't want Amazon closing any security holes before the device gets modified.
Thanks!
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1) Certain priveleges, like Video On Demand and Lending Library, are disabled on rooted devices. OTA Rootkeeper and other similar apps can temporarily unroot the device to access these features. I've never done it so I couldn't say how effective it is.
2) Yes
3) MoDaCo ROM, is a customized version of the stock ROM with OTA disabled and various other improvements. Like any custom ROM it is rooted, so certain priveleges will be inaccessible until it is unrooted as mentioned before. Having said that, the likeliness of getting another OTA update for this device any time soon is pretty low.
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1) Certain priveleges, like Video On Demand and Lending Library, are disabled on rooted devices. OTA Rootkeeper and other similar apps can temporarily unroot the device to access these features. I've never done it so I couldn't say how effective it is.
2) Yes
3) MoDaCo ROM, is a customized version of the stock ROM with OTA disabled and various other improvements. Like any custom ROM it is rooted, so certain priveleges will be inaccessible until it is unrooted as mentioned before. Having said that, the likeliness of getting another OTA update for this device any time soon is pretty low.
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Thanks for the reply. So you can't disable OTA on the stock rom? Does it give you the opportunity to decline the update? Like I said she just started using it so she probably doesn't have any updates on it yet.
bird333 said:
Thanks for the reply. So you can't disable OTA on the stock rom? Does it give you the opportunity to decline the update? Like I said she just started using it so she probably doesn't have any updates on it yet.
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You can disable OTA on a rooted device by renaming a certain file. Otherwise, if an OTA does come around, it can't be declined. Furthermore, OTA updates have been known to soft brick devices to a point where a factory cable is needed to fix them.
With that being said, rooted Kindle Fires, and Kindle Fires running custom ROMs, require a certain level of knowledge/maintenance to make sure everything stays running smoothly. Anyone not invested/prepared is open to certain problems resulting from it.
Simply put, having a rooted/modified device is probably not the best choice for the technically challenged.
[Edit:] Also, and this is very important, if the Kindle Fire in question is brand new or purchased since Nov. 2012, you may have a 2nd generation Kindle Fire, in which case disregard everything that has been said here because you could permanently brick the device by using any of the methods found in the these (KF1) forums.
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You can disable OTA on a rooted device by renaming a certain file. Otherwise, if an OTA does come around, it can't be declined. Furthermore, OTA updates have been known to soft brick devices to a point where a factory cable is needed to fix them.
With that being said, rooted Kindle Fires, and Kindle Fires running custom ROMs, require a certain level of knowledge/maintenance to make sure everything stays running smoothly. Anyone not invested/prepared is open to certain problems resulting from it.
Simply put, having a rooted/modified device is probably not the best choice for the technically challenged.
[Edit:] Also, and this is very important, if the Kindle Fire in question is brand new or purchased since Nov. 2012, you may have a 2nd generation Kindle Fire, in which case disregard everything that has been said here because you could permanently brick the device by using any of the methods found in the these (KF1) forums.
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I'm pretty sure it's version 1. She has had it over a year and hadn't been able to use it until now. I'll have her check the software version to be sure. Thanks for the help.
Hi all, I've had Fire TV 1's and rooted them since the day they got rooted, the main thing I use them for is Kodi and as a launcher.
I followed zeroepoch's thread and attempted root in windows but it stopped midway through, not bricked or anything, the only thing I noticed is I could not check for updates anymore (I did not disable the ota service or block in router or anything) since no root access at that point. Well I decided to spin up an Ubuntu VM and use linux to root (MUCH faster/easier btw!) I followed the video guide posted here (Thanks!) and it was a breeze.
Here's my question now though, I want to update to 5.0.4. @AFTVnews.com posted a topic about 5.0.4 but had suggessted unrooting first, then upgrading officially, then re-rooting. I"m good with doing this, I'm sure it will take some time to complete but that's fine. I'm just not sure how to go about doing this. I have kept my linux box VM, is there a guide I missed or anything? I'm sure it's similar to the rooting process I just want to make sure I do it right, don't want a brick.
Also with FTV1, xposed was working and rbox module to override launcher and this is what I used a lot of, as well as modified Kodi Confluence skin from @elmerhueso. I know xposed is not yet up and running on ftv2 but for those running Kodi, is Firestarter the best launcher replacement, even with root? Last question is, I noticed team Kodi dropped libstagefright in Jarvis, this was a major problem for the FTV1 as is was a regression in some video playback as mediacodec is not quite as mature. Is this still the case with FTV2? Or what is the reccomended version of Kodi everyone is using?
Thanks for everyones help, without your work the fire tv would be nowhere compared to what it is now!
P.S. - Any other Root programs/tips&tricks for the FTV2 now that I've successfully rooted, I'd love to hear what others are using root for on their FTV2.
I use the latest stable version of Kodi 15.2, running Konfluence skin (modded confluence), get yourself a Logitech K400 plus keyboard their great & have also a mouse touch pad (make sure you unable us debugging or your usb socket won't work). Their isn't a proper guide yet I've looked! We will have to wait I'm sure it won't be long? Their is a quick upgrade in the forums but also some have reported bricks with the "quick upgrade" , so for me I'm not taking the risk just yet, I'd rather do a longer flash of my AFTV2 than a super quick flash & end up with a "brick".
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Here's my question now though, I want to update to 5.0.4. @AFTVnews.com posted a topic about 5.0.4 but had suggessted unrooting first, then upgrading officially, then re-rooting. I"m good with doing this, I'm sure it will take some time to complete but that's fine.
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Just enable OTA via package manager then install the 5.0.4 update. It will unroot your device and you have a stock 5.0.4. Then just root as you did for 5.0.3. There is no reason/need to go to stock 5.0.4 and then rerooting. I've done 3 devices with exactly this method, no issues.
I'm sure it's safe but I would rather wait for an official guide than take a risk
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Thanks everyone!
Good info here, I'm glad to hear that re-enabling the OTA is "safe" to just go ahead and update and re-root, I thought there might be something else needed but I aired on the side of caution as I'm pretty new to the FTV2 and the rooting method used for it.
Your tips/input is much appreciated!
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Thanks everyone!
Good info here, I'm glad to hear that re-enabling the OTA is "safe" to just go ahead and update and re-root, I thought there might be something else needed but I aired on the side of caution as I'm pretty new to the FTV2 and the rooting method used for it.
Your tips/input is much appreciated!
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I don't know about OTA'ing from 5.0.3 to 5.0.4 being "safe". It SEEMS to work... but I still have some reservations about it.
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I don't know about OTA'ing from 5.0.3 to 5.0.4 being "safe". It SEEMS to work... but I still have some reservations about it.
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Same here, I recall from previous experiences in the past with many rooted devices (mainly phones or consoles) that in most cases that you don't install OTA updates straight from a rooted device because 9/10 times It leads to Bricks! Now I don't know if this would be the same with the AFTV2 but I'd unroot then install the OTA & then reroot.
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Same here, I recall from previous experiences in the past with many rooted devices (mainly phones or consoles) that in most cases that you don't install OTA updates straight from a rooted device because 9/10 times It leads to Bricks! Now I don't know if this would be the same with the AFTV2 but I'd unroot then install the OTA & then reroot.
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There any instructions to do this? I would rather do it the safer method, dont care if it takes longer thats ok. Im not sure how to full unroot, use an app or reflash stock image or something? Thanks again
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There any instructions to do this? I would rather do it the safer method, dont care if it takes longer thats ok. Im not sure how to full unroot, use an app or reflash stock image or something? Thanks again
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Hopefully someone will provide a full working guide very soon, it is almost Xmas so I can't see anyone putting a guide up anytime this week? Or Amazon doing another update until at least the end of January? So we will have to just wait. Ask in the main Root thread for AFTV2 if you like?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/root-update-5-3-0-1-to-5-0-4-3-min-t3277997 @aboshi posted this 5.0.3.1 to 5.0.4 guide. It's not an official OTA update but a few people have used it with success.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/root-update-5-3-0-1-to-5-0-4-3-min-t3277997 @aboshi posted this 5.0.3.1 to 5.0.4 guide. It's not an official OTA update but a few people have used it with success.
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Cheers mate I've seen this already & as tempting as a 3-5min flash upgrade I think I'd rather be safer with the longer root process than the quicker one, I'm not gonna jump in feet first when rooting (especially when we have no recovery yet).
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I hear ya man. I havent tried it either. Im happy with my flawless kodi streaming from my pc to my ftv and phone. Dont really see a need for the 5.0.4 update myself, since i use Firestarter anyways. Cheers bud and merry xmas.
I have a 4k fire TV box and have kodi installed etc,what's the benefits of rooting them
More features, mod the look of stuff, have more control over everything, if in the future Amazon blocks kodi, if your on an earlier update (custom firmware) you maybe able to still use (because we block the ota updates with root), get rid of ads in apps, more accessories options/mods, the list goes on.
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So I rooted my 1st Gen FireTV as soon as I got it, and I think I'm on the very first Firmware. I had blocked OTA updates and as far as I know have never updated. that being said, I don't think I've ever done much that actually used the Root functionality. The only thing I really do is use Kodi 15.1 annnnndddd thats it.
I do own an Amazon Echo, and saw that Alexa is now part of the new FTV update. Not sure if I can link them together and just boss my FTV around via the Echo or not, but I like the idea of more / updated functionality from my FireTV
Soooo thoughts? Am I missing anything great by updating and giving up Root? I have seen that I could update with pre-rooted firmware but then I would have to install CRM / Recovery, then do incrimental upgrades after installing a Bootmenu, etc. That seems like a lot of stuff I need in place and a lot of points of failure or bricking for something I'm not sure I even need =/
If so, what would you suggest is the easiest way to re-enable OTA updates? I was going to ADB and use pm enable com.amazon.dcp Thanks for any advice, by the way, I'm pretty new at this.
Well OK then =/
Well, like many things, the answer is up to you.
If you have no need for root then you have no need to for root.
I like, many others, prefer the option of having root, recovery and unlocked bootloaders.
If you don't use anything Amazon and only use it for Kodi then root will give you the ability to freeze the FireTV Launcher have Kodi set as Home.
Installing recovery and a updated pre-rooted ROM isn't too difficult and you've done the 'hard' part by having root already.
Update wise, unless you want to be running the latest versions then yes you'll have to on top of it otherwise you can just update to the current version and be done with it.
You can check back every now and then to see what the additional updates from Amazon fix or what features it adds and decide then if you want to update.
Pardon me if this is a stupid question or the wrong place - but I am new to this type of thing. Does anyone know if/when it will be possible to root a firetv version 5.2.6.0 ?
Hi. and welcome to the board.
For all things regarding the aftv, the site http://www.aftvnews.com/tag/guide/ is a good starting point.
It's also there than you can check to see if root for your software revision has become available. For starters it's always good to learn how to block on the air updates for your device asap, so that rooting vulnerabilities have not been patched already before we learn about them (which is the usual way: they got patched and we just learn about them afterwards when the new update already patched them).
As an answer to your question, there is no known way atm to achieve software root on a device with 5.2.6.0.
Yes, thanks. I actually did look at the aftvnews website and saw that my version was market in red, but it didnt give much details as to why its not do able.. it just said no possible. I was curious as to why the limitation
Which version is installed on new fire tv sticks ?
Which version is the latest one which is rootable?
If i buy a new fire tv stick today and first thing i will do, is block the ota update, can i root it or are the new sticks all unrootable, because they already have the new firmware which is not able to be rooted?
I just connected my FireTV1 with 5.0.5.1 on it. Since there hasn't been any real progress (that I know of) concerning the rooting of that device, I thought I might as well update it to the most recent version. Or should I just leave it like it is? Right now it does not get updates due to that adb trick that works up until 5.0.5.1.
Any recommendations?
Update it. I gave up hope for root on my fire TV1's. Last I knew you you could block updates on 5.2.6.0 via uninstall shell. My hope is that a new update will come out and have a easy vulnerability.