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[App] 2BOrange - Install any kernel (Voodoo, SpeedMode, Infusion...) without computer

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2BOrange
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Hi everybody,
I have made a free application to install any kernel on your SGS very easily.
The idea is that there is a website where kernel are uploaded with a script and an application to:
- search
- download
- install it on your phone.
The application and the website are not limited to install kernell but I think it is a good way to try it.It can execute any script in the android shell.
So I have made some script for some kernel, there are so much that I have not the time to make one for each of them.
To make a script is very easy, I have attached an example of one I have uploaded on the website. If you need to attach a file, put it in a zip and upload both (the script and the zip) through the upload form on the website,
The address of the website is:
http://www.2borange.com/
A general thread on XDA (not dedicated to kernel on SGS) about the application:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14875954#post14875954
You need to create an account to upload but it is not mandatory to just search, download and install a kernel.
Please keep me informed if everything work or not. I have only test it on my phone.
For the author of the kernels: I am sorry to have not yet informed you of the sharing of your great work, I will do it for sure when I will have done enough test to offer you an interesting way to share your work.
For the user: if you have time, don't hesitate to upload some scripts, it is free and easy to do...
Thank you for everything,
Michael
LIST OF KERNEL AVAILABLE AS OF JUNE, 27:
- Galaxian
- Infusion Kernel Faster Fusion Reaction
- Semaphore Kernel JVH - JVP
- SpeedMod Gingerbread
- TalonDEV
- TEGRAK lagfix- Voodoo kernel installer
- Voodoo kernel JVP
Don't hesitate to upload some new firmware. A model of script is provided below as attachment

niceee something to look foreward to

Neldar's SGS Kernel Flasher
is not locked to any web-site.
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O-T said:
Neldar's SGS Kernel Flasher
is not locked to any web-site.
Sent from my GT-I9000
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This allows you to actually find a kernel, download it and flash it as well. The Kernel Flasher is just for kernels already on your sd card.

O-T said:
Neldar's SGS Kernel Flasher
is not locked to any web-site.
Sent from my GT-I9000
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Thank you for your message.
I did not know about this application. I have read the description and I can tell you the purpose of mine is totally different.
I have understood that Nedar application is to install a Kernel that you have already downloaded and copy on your SDCARD.
The purpose of my application is to download automatically a script and a zip file, and execute the script.
So there are 2 main differences between these two applications:
- my application get files you need directly from the cloud (Internet), so it is like a deposit of files
- my application is not limited to kernel installation, it is just a usefull example to show people how it works, but it can do more, really lot more tasks.
However, because the application of Nedar is dedicated to one particular task, it has option I have not yet implemented in mine. By example, I have not yet construct a script to backup the kernel in an update.zip file, which could be very usefull.
So they are really very different. I hope I will be able to construct more script, but may be the biggest difference with any dedicated application is that anyone can participate to my project without any knowledge in Java programation.
You just have to know a little bit about shell to be able to share your work with others.
THAT IS THE REAL PURPOSE OF THIS APPLICATION : SHARING!

Amazing concept!
Thumbs up for the foresight for such a nice project. If enough effort is put I can see in next couple of months, the whole, ROM, Kernel, Modem flashing automated.
Right from finding the correct software till installing them and may be some debugging and fault finding as well!
Will definitely donate in case the project takes off the way it should!
Great work Snoopy!

Loving the concept of this!
As omzworld was saying, if this grew into a script that could automatically install your ROM/kernel/modem etc. that would be awesome, especially for people who are new to flashing.
Now, here's another suggestion that may or may not have been thought about already..
Is there any way to make the app look at your phone and use that as a basis for roms, kernels etc. ? If that was possible, anyone and everyone would be using your app to flash because they would know that bricking their phones would be almost impossible.

omzworld said:
Amazing concept!
Thumbs up for the foresight for such a nice project. If enough effort is put I can see in next couple of months, the whole, ROM, Kernel, Modem flashing automated.
Right from finding the correct software till installing them and may be some debugging and fault finding as well!
Will definitely donate in case the project takes off the way it should!
Great work Snoopy!
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lttldvl said:
Loving the concept of this!
As omzworld was saying, if this grew into a script that could automatically install your ROM/kernel/modem etc. that would be awesome, especially for people who are new to flashing.
Now, here's another suggestion that may or may not have been thought about already..
Is there any way to make the app look at your phone and use that as a basis for roms, kernels etc. ? If that was possible, anyone and everyone would be using your app to flash because they would know that bricking their phones would be almost impossible.
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Thank you for your interest.
The thing I need now is not money, donation,etc... but report of test and ideas of improvment.
By the way, I only have a samsung phone, and I am wondering if there are possibilities to install kernel in other phone only by using the shell, have you an idea ?
Second question: have you an idea how to proceed to install an entire ROM through the shell ? I suppose the phone has to be rebooted before installation begin and lauche in a recovery mode, but how to make it automatic like in ROM Manager?
Thank you for your help!

omzworld said:
Amazing concept!
Thumbs up for the foresight for such a nice project. If enough effort is put I can see in next couple of months, the whole, ROM, Kernel, Modem flashing automated.
Right from finding the correct software till installing them and may be some debugging and fault finding as well!
Will definitely donate in case the project takes off the way it should!
Great work Snoopy!
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What is the way it should take for you?
I need ideas

lttldvl said:
Loving the concept of this!
As omzworld was saying, if this grew into a script that could automatically install your ROM/kernel/modem etc. that would be awesome, especially for people who are new to flashing.
Now, here's another suggestion that may or may not have been thought about already..
Is there any way to make the app look at your phone and use that as a basis for roms, kernels etc. ? If that was possible, anyone and everyone would be using your app to flash because they would know that bricking their phones would be almost impossible.
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I have already included a kind of filter based on brand, model of phone and firmware version plus sdk version, do you think it could be more precise?

Fixed script on server, should work on every phone now

Hey snoopy33, why do you have not yet updated this page?

[Q] [Q} ROM Vs Theme

Hi Guys,
Kinda n00b question:
Whats the difference between a ROM and a Theme? I'm running SimplyHoney 3.8 on my SGS, which I understand is a ROM. I want to apply a new theme, but from the installation guides it looks like its installing a ROM... so:
1. Will installing a theme wipe my apps and configs?
2. Whats the actual difference?
3. Do I need to get a theme to match my ROM?
I'd really appreciate answers, or directions to where should I ask this.
Many thanks,
SoundFX3D

1. Theme will only affect the appearance.
2. Rom is sort of like a package with all the features and tweaks included by the developer(s) which also has its own theme.
3. In the case of SimplyHoney, its has a blue theme. You can choose to flash another theme if you don't like blue. Just make sure its compatible with your rom version.

And no themes almost never wipe data so all your apps will remain.
Also on the subject of Simply Honey if you install a theme that you don't like or doesn't function as expected you can simply re-flash the Simply Honey rom and it wont wipe as it auto detects. You be right back where you started.
Sent from Simply Honey, Loved by Humans, Envied by Trolls! Using XDA premium of course.

basicly almost all so called roms out there are themes with kernel attached
90% or more files inside their 200mb packages are matching stock ones
but that way new user thinks, hell lot of good job i will donate =)
most of roms claims best stability, best speeds everything best
while speed depends on kernel used and system version basicly
so you have same insides in every each one of them with one of few kernels out there
only thing that difers them is theme used
everything is more or less placebo

Thanks a million u guys

$omator, I think that when you get a room you get a theme + kernel + android stuff + some apps that work well together (or should). So developers should have some credit.
Buy it is true that a 100% real rom is something like cyagonenmod.
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most of files are same as in stock trust me

$omator said:
basicly almost all so called roms out there are themes with kernel attached
90% or more files inside their 200mb packages are matching stock ones
but that way new user thinks, hell lot of good job i will donate =)
most of roms claims best stability, best speeds everything best
while speed depends on kernel used and system version basicly
so you have same insides in every each one of them with one of few kernels out there
only thing that difers them is theme used
everything is more or less placebo
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well, Only thing I will agrre on is , the kernel builders and themers do NOT get enough credit for there work compare to rom builders, thats sad but again huge 'unknown difference between guy that make the voodoo stuff and guy that just compile it .
For the rest I disagree .. plain and simple , the way the framework files are handled when modified and how junk files/ids values present depends on the builder , the updater script, optimization of pngs, deodexed zip aligned , the init.d script chosen to go with the kernel are 90% of what makes a rom , on first boot when your dalvik is created the rom stability is created, some badly themed apks wont even run on first boot they require already present dex files so the system can correct the errors after the initial first boot (witch is long ) themers dont have to worry about that , but throw there files ina stock deodexed rom and flash iit full wipe letssee if your phoen runs smooth 'just becuz its 'JVQ with the latest OMG kernel.... 10% is placebo no doubt .. certainly not 90%%%
of course they are some rom chefs that take the work of others theme it and call it there ROM thats another story...
btw dont you run stock rooted kernel on odexed rom ??? if so thatwoudl lead me to believe you are VERY biased ....

DAGr8 said:
well, Only thing I will agrre on is , the kernel builders and themers do NOT get enough credit for there work compare to rom builders, thats sad but again huge 'unknown difference between guy that make the voodoo stuff and guy that just compile it .
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same with galaxian kernel, it is bunch of features from every other kernel + bugs
bugs that are bugfixed every single day and new final version is delivered, that is said by him the best fastest stable bugfree and so on ....
this guy claimed 170$ for fixing bugs that he have made and that could be ironed in betatesting process if he would conduct one and features from other kernel devs basicly ;]
his thread lacks of current sources - i am suprised that his thread still exists and he is not kicked out
DAGr8 said:
For the rest I disagree .. plain and simple , the way the framework files are handled when modified and how junk files/ids values present depends on the builder , the updater script, optimization of pngs, deodexed zip aligned , the init.d script chosen to go with the kernel are 90% of what makes a rom , on first boot when your dalvik is created the rom stability is created, some badly themed apks wont even run on first boot they require already present dex files so the system can correct the errors after the initial first boot (witch is long ) themers dont have to worry about that , but throw there files ina stock deodexed rom and flash iit full wipe letssee if your phoen runs smooth 'just becuz its 'JVQ with the latest OMG kernel.... 10% is placebo no doubt .. certainly not 90%%%
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agree about the wipe, does not agree that optimizing zipaligning and all that are necessary
still majority of copied files are intact that is what ive ment
and those roms are basicly themes as if you would take the custom kernel out that is what your left with, a theme - that is my opinion i will try to hold on
DAGr8 said:
of course they are some rom chefs that take the work of others theme it and call it there ROM thats another story...
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or they leave old version of apps just because 'they still work on new version"
what is basicly reverting their theme/rom to a previous firmware revision
because those new files in most cases contain aside of some language bugfixes
a real bugfixing or optimization of code - but hey one say, it still works with the old one =)
DAGr8 said:
btw dont you run stock rooted kernel on odexed rom ??? if so thatwoudl lead me to believe you are VERY biased ....
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nooo i tested few kernels back in the days
i know hardcore makes something special

Interesring discusion, I am learnig a lot.
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[GUIDE]simple tips choosing a custom ROM

I've seen a lot of new member here. I hope this thread might help them decide what ROM are best for them and reduce the number of question. however, I won't mention any rom in this forum to keep this thread from my subjective point of view. you should see the development section by yourself to find your best suited rom for you.
OK. lets get straight to the topic. this is some things that you should consider when you choose a custom rom. I'll divide the guide into three main parts two make everything is easy to understand. the parts are performance, style, and additional consideration.
##PERFORMANCE##
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1. debloatware
debloatware is a process to remove considered useless apk from the system. every rom has different degree of debloatware. a hight degree debloatware means you'll have only use a little of ram space for system app. however we'll lost some of sync function like kies synchronization if we remove all bloatware from the system. make sure that you still have all the app you need from stock rom in your custom rom.
2. deodexed vs odexed
Most of custom rom available is deodexed rom while our stock rom is half deodexed rom. I'll try to explain it in most simple way. First of all, we should understand that mostly every app in android consist of three part, *apk files, *dex/odex files, and lib files.
ODEXED rom means that *dex file needed to run the app is extracted from the apk file and placed in same folder with the apk files (/system/app). the positive side, it is tend to more stable and consume less internal memory and a execute faster. it is also faster since the system doesn't have to build dalvik cache at boot process. the negative side, it makes the app uncostumizable (cannot apply custom themes) and need more space in system partition.
DEODEXED rom means that *dex file needed to run the app is extracted from the apk file and placed in /data/dalvik-cache. the positive side, the app can be themed (full customizable) and consume less system partition. we could put more app in /system/app in deodexed rom. the negative side, it consume a lot of internal memory. the system also might a little bit slower since the system need to build a lot of dalvik-cache when the phone start.
3. custom kernel
a custom kernel could give you a huge boost of performance. for the most basic one, you should choose a kernel with init.d support. we'll need it to run a lot of performance tweaks. if you're seeing a custom kernel, you should look into these point:
- custom governoor
custom governoor will give you a lot of option to set your device performance. you can set the performance as hight as possible or save your battery as long as possible by set the correct governoor.
- custom scheduler
its almost same with custom governoor. however it manage I/O on your device. it won't give you a huge boost on performance but you should consider it as your main consideration.
- droidwall support
- a2sd and swap support
- additional feature
- bug and rom compatibility
not all custom rom compatible with all custom kernel. make sure that your custom kernel is compatible with your rom.
4. performance tweak availabilty
for a basic consideration, make sure that your rom have a performance tweak. otherwise, you'll got only a themed rom with stock performance. if you're a performance person, make sure your rom is have these tweak.
- memory management optimization
- hsdpa optimization
- kernel and I/O optimization
- gps optimization
- internet speed optimization
these tweaks are could be found at build.prop, init.d, sysctl.conf, and gps.conf.
5. additional tweaks
there are also some additional tweak you should consider if you want to install a rom. the commonly used are:
- bravia engine
- sound enhancement
6. performance app
some ROMs offer performance tweak app like ROM manager inside it. you should consider these app if you're a performance person
##STYLE##
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1. theme
this is a very subjective topic. you should choose a rom with a topic suit with your style.
2. degree of customization
every rom has certain degree of customization. if you're a themed person, you should consider these point for your rom.
- EDT tweak for statbar customization
- ROM'S lab
- customizer app
- theme availability
3. ROM special app
some of ROM have special app for their rom. they're specially developed for only certain roms and comes with special names and various function. these app will give you a huge power for style and performance customization.
##ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION##
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1. update availability
some ROMs are good but they're left undeveloped. you won't get an update for your rom. you should choose a rom with a continous update from the dev to ensure you get the best rom for you.
2. dev support
not all ROM maker are really a dev. some of them just a wannabe dev with a theme modified rom skill. you can't expect them to solve the bug in their rom. you should choose with a good reputation and high skill.
3. rom size
this is not a huge issue. if you have a slow internet connection, a smaller rom is better for you. smaller rom also means a big degree of bloatware. the system will be lighter than the other rom.
4. rom base
some of rom are using old firmware (--KL) while some other are using newer firmware(--LB or newer). you should aware of these stuff since not theme and mod available in our forum are compatible with all firmware. new firmware will give you more stability but in most case you can't have custom bootanimation.
5. multilanguage
this is not a huge issue but you should consider it as well. not all rom support japanese, chinese, arabic, spain and latin fonts.
DISCLAIMER: REMEMBER THAT YOU'LL NEVER GET ALL IN ONE PACKET ROM. ALL ROMS HAVE THEIR STRENGTH POINT. YOU CAN'T EXPECT ANY DEV TO MAKE "A PERFECT" ROM FOR EVERYONE. IF YOU DON'T SATISFY WITH YOUR ROM REMEMBER THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS CUSTOMIZE YOUR ROM BY YOURSELF.

Reserved for dunno
just in case

This thread really help me to create my own custom rom with world best future ......... many many thanks for the great thread .....
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If i use to create odexed rom is it support all tweaks ..
And if i costmize only systemui /firmwork * (deodexed)
With odexed rom its support or not...
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if you want a customizable theme you can make your systemUI.apk as a deodexed apk. if your apk have classes.dex inside it you'll need to delete systemUI.odex from your system.

Can i add a link to this in FAQ bro?
This is basic but very useful for newbies

yes sure...

which rom in your openion is preferrable
which hit high ends

explodeaamir said:
which rom in your openion is preferrable
which hit high ends
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wat r ur expectations from a rom?

explodeaamir said:
which rom in your openion is preferrable
which hit high ends
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that is an unending debate, anyway for me
stability - stock ROM

I already have all my tweaks needed for my rom. If anyone asked "what rom do you like?" I'll answered "just a stock rom but with a better graphic and sound driver". however, I'm afraid we've to build it from source to get it

More questions
Great explanations bro, specially for nobs like me
My questions are:
1- How can I know if the ROM totally support Arabic-Language?
I live in Saudi Arabia and My SGY comes with XXLC1 stock ROM.
2- Is there any other stocks than XXLC1 ROMs I can use and still support Arabic and Modem-settings in my region?
I notes that most if not all custom ROMs based on Different stocks than mine.
I know, it sounds like I answered my first question in the second one, but still I need more clarifications.
3- Now I'm using REMIX ROM with [email protected] Kernel, based-band S5360XXLC1. Still, I can't have full Arabic interfaces and
my browsers cant read Arabic too. I wounder why?
Sorry for the very nob questions and Thank you very much.

Few questions about building your own rom

Well cyanogen 7.2 is out. Repost, because I posted in the wrong section previously.
I think I'm going to build a lightweight rom go launcher based rom off of it. First try ever I've done a lot of experimenting.
I intend on removing languages, apps that I never have had any remote desire to use (vpn, fmradio, that kind of thing), and create a basic high performance mod.
I'd like to incorporate the tiamat kernel somehow. Also I'd like to force smartassv2, and custom calibration settings, but I'm having a bit of a hard time finding where those settings are saved in the zip.
Does anyone know where the file is saved, for adjusting autobrightness defaults?
I'd would like to zipalign it, and if I can, odex it.
Also I am going to try to run PNGout on all of the PNG files.
Anyone have any suggestions on best tools to do all of these things from a windows or ubuntu based linux perspective? I know how to remove the APKs, and using PNGout seems pretty straight forward.
I'm not opposed to recompiling, if thats the best method to odex.
Also, any suggested performance optimizations?
Build.prop flags?

There are plethora of tools in the chef section.
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Angelus359 said:
Well cyanogen 7.2 is out. Repost, because I posted in the wrong section previously.
I think I'm going to build a lightweight rom go launcher based rom off of it. First try ever I've done a lot of experimenting.
I intend on removing languages, apps that I never have had any remote desire to use (vpn, fmradio, that kind of thing), and create a basic high performance mod.
I'd like to incorporate the tiamat kernel somehow. Also I'd like to force smartassv2, and custom calibration settings, but I'm having a bit of a hard time finding where those settings are saved in the zip.
Does anyone know where the file is saved, for adjusting autobrightness defaults?
I'd would like to zipalign it, and if I can, odex it.
Also I am going to try to run PNGout on all of the PNG files.
Anyone have any suggestions on best tools to do all of these things from a windows or ubuntu based linux perspective? I know how to remove the APKs, and using PNGout seems pretty straight forward.
I'm not opposed to recompiling, if thats the best method to odex.
Also, any suggested performance optimizations?
Build.prop flags?
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The best tools to use to start learning to make create your own roms is use the kitchen,it will zipallign and deodex all that good stuff,like the guy above me said, theres alot of other guides and tools here that will help you with your venture....

[Q] Android Moding for Newbies

So i'm computer programmer and i develop programms, in C#,Pawn,mSL,PHP... A bit C. Mostly in C-Type languages.
And i was wondering , since i don't have much a background for linux Operating Systems, is there any guide in order to create your own Android ROMs, Mods, Like PAC , or Caynogen Mod, or ParanoidAndroid, AOKP ... or even combine them like pac did. I'm allready aware that in order to do that i need to learn this to procceed. Since i know how to develop applications and i know the programming stuff i would like to have for example a Unique Mod for my Phone, something that i can build it exactly to my needs.
PAC ROM is a very good one, but it has a lot of limitations, such us Lack of Radio FM, 2MP Cammera, and so on. Anyway is there any tutorial,guide or whatever in order sto learn the basics about compiling the new Android Base, and how can i embed a mod, or modify its system.?

For kernel side its very easy, just download kernel source, ramdisk, a toolchain, and kernel kitchen or use the Sony script.to pack .elf files
Once you got this just start edit what you want, compile, pack the zimage with a ramdisk and next pack it to .elf.
Finally flash it
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Be sure to check out this - http://xda-university.com/
It is very good for learning new stuff
There are many guides around here on XDA which tell us how to build roms from source too. Good luck:laugh:

Thank you for your help guys. Appriciated it.!