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[Q] Cannot get internet via Wifi tether anymore

I hope I'm in the correct forum...
I have rooted and flashed VirusROM on my HTC EVO 4G. I used to be able to use Sprint's Hotspot app to tether Wifi to my carputer. I was using it Thursday on the way to my in-law's place for Thanksgiving. I left and then could not get it to work again. The computer connects and the signal is at full strength but all browsers say "Page cannot be displayed" and my weather updates down load anymore. I tried using other computers/devices and all connect but none show an internet connection. I can use Google Maps, send/receive pics and videos, and use the internet on my EVO but I cannot share it. Did Sprint cut me off? Is there a setting I mistakenly changed?? I was under the impression that I can tether for free when its rooted. I even download to different tether apps and got the same results. Anybody have any suggestions? Any and all help would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks in advance...
-Greg

Although I am not using wifi tether, I am using the built in wireless tether through Miui. It is working flawlessly on my Mac. I suggest you change your SSID and maybe your password. If no success delete your network settings and try again.

casual864 said:
Although I am not using wifi tether, I am using the built in wireless tether through Miui. It is working flawlessly on my Mac. I suggest you change your SSID and maybe your password. If no success delete your network settings and try again.
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I've never heard of Miui. I'll try that next. I already tried changing the SSID, the passwords, and even the encryption type and nothing worked...I'm gonna go back and try it all again. Thanks for the input, dude!!

Didn't know Miui was a ROM...I like the way I have everything set on Virus so I was hoping to not have to change ROM's. Thanks again though! Please keep suggestions coming, guys!

greg.dassing said:
I hope I'm in the correct forum...
I have rooted and flashed VirusROM on my HTC EVO 4G. I used to be able to use Sprint's Hotspot app to tether Wifi to my carputer. I was using it Thursday on the way to my in-law's place for Thanksgiving. I left and then could not get it to work again. The computer connects and the signal is at full strength but all browsers say "Page cannot be displayed" and my weather updates down load anymore. I tried using other computers/devices and all connect but none show an internet connection. I can use Google Maps, send/receive pics and videos, and use the internet on my EVO but I cannot share it. Did Sprint cut me off? Is there a setting I mistakenly changed?? I was under the impression that I can tether for free when its rooted. I even download to different tether apps and got the same results. Anybody have any suggestions? Any and all help would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks in advance...
-Greg
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Try this link, not sure which one will work for you but the pre-14 works for me. Just try each one untill you find one that works on your ROM, sorry I can't point you to ont that I know will work on that rom. I know the link says Nexus one but they will work on the Evo just fine. Most of these act just linke a router, not an ad-hoc.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list?can=2&q=NexusOne

That was one of the other tether apps I tried...that and barnacle...I downloaded and tried it again and it still didn't work...thanks for the info!

greg.dassing said:
That was one of the other tether apps I tried...that and barnacle...I downloaded and tried it again and it still didn't work...thanks for the info!
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Did you try several of the releases, I had to try several before I found one that worked. Sorry couldn't help.

ifly4vamerica said:
Did you try several of the releases, I had to try several before I found one that worked. Sorry couldn't help.
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I tried the top 3 but none worked...I don't think thats the problem though because tethering worked up until Thursday and then it stopped for all apps. I had that app working before...thanks again

greg.dassing said:
I tried the top 3 but none worked...I don't think thats the problem though because tethering worked up until Thursday and then it stopped for all apps. I had that app working before...thanks again
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One last ditch effort, try changing the channel to channel one in one of the wireless tether app, just saw a post where this fixed the problem for some people. Good luck

ifly4vamerica said:
One last ditch effort, try changing the channel to channel one in one of the wireless tether app, just saw a post where this fixed the problem for some people. Good luck
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Sprint's HotSpot and Wifi Tether don't give the option and Barnacle was already set on Channel 1 :/ Thanks though

Wireless tether is what I was talking about I use pre 14, just open the app and menu/settings, its the 4th option down.

I don't know how I missed that option. I went in and changed it to Channel 1 but no change...my roommate came home and sparked up his Incredible's hotspot and it worked perfectly of the bat...something has got to be wrong with my EVO

does your evo say that a device connected and does it show that anything downloaded under the wireless tether app mine used to get stuck at just over 1kb of data then i modded my framework_res.apk and somehow i can tether again

It does seem to stay on a very low KB like 1.1...although it does show the devices that are connected...

Mine did the exact same thing although im not entirely sure what I did that fixed this I edited the xml code for the notification bar and edited the notification bar which somehow caused my tethering to work
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chadm424 said:
Mine did the exact same thing although im not entirely sure what I did that fixed this I edited the xml code for the notification bar and edited the notification bar which somehow caused my tethering to work
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Thats the kinda luck I don't have! Hahaha!

I have the same exact problem you are having

xtshadowxt said:
I have the same exact problem you are having
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Sorry to hear that...its so damn frustrating!

Yea it is, i'm about to work on some homework, any chance if you get it working, you think you can pm me how you fixed it ? thanks in advance

Any other thoughts?? Is there a way to test to see if the actual hardware failed?

[Q] Any low cost or free 4G Tethering Options?

Ever since the last time I installed a rooted ROM (stock Sense ICS edit: gingerbread), neither Wifi Tether nor Wireless Tether will work with my laptop. The apps launch and seem to run ok, but a few minutes after my laptop connects, it then disconnects! After that it wont connect anymore unless I close either tethering app and re-start them.
I have been using PDA Net, which is fine, but the free version won't connect to secure sites. Before I give up and pay for the full version, I thought I'd check and see if there are any other option available.
My requirements are:
Works with 4G
Works with secure sites.
I would prefer a wireless solution so I can use it with my (cough) iPad as well, but that would be a luxury.
I have not confirmed that my wireless issue is due to either app. Wifi Tether used to work with my previous ROM (also a stock Sprint rooted ROM). I flashed to an updated ROM because I could not get my Bluetooth working with the last one. Now Bluetooth works, but I've lost the ability to use Wireless tethering!
I'm kind of afraid to flash to a ROM with unlocked Sprint wireless tether because I don't want something else to break!

Wireless tether 2.0.7 works on pretty much anything. Does not work on evo 3d
Sent from my MIUI.us Sensation 4G using XDA App

So are you on an ICS rom still? A lot of things still aren't working with the ICS roms, including tethering.

sitlet said:
So are you on an ICS rom still? A lot of things still aren't working with the ICS roms, including tethering.
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Actually not the case. Jaredthegreat says that his betas include native tethering. I haven't tried it out myself but he says it works.
Sent from my RamenizedEvo on Cricket.

sitlet said:
So are you on an ICS rom still? A lot of things still aren't working with the ICS roms, including tethering.
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Sorry, I meant Gingerbread.
I'm on 2.3 Android, and using Wireless tether 2.07, And she ain't working for me. That is why I'm looking for another tethering method.
Guess I'll just have to re-flash and take my chances with breaking bluetooth again. I wanted to avoid that cause when I was trying to fix my Bluetooth before, nobody here was able to help. I had to reflash then too.
This is like trying to"fix"Windows by reinstalling it. You're not really fixing anything.
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I install 2.0.7 on my customers evos all the time. Works everytime.
Sent from my Virtuous Quattro A3 ICS HTC Sensation

Why don't you try an updated version
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Isn't there a hack for for the sprint hotspot?
Sent from my RamenizedEvo on Cricket.

Try wireless tether 3.1 beta
Sent from my Virtuous Quattro A3 ICS HTC Sensation

KommodoreHeinz said:
Isn't there a hack for for the sprint hotspot?
Sent from my RamenizedEvo on Cricket.
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Yep..
10char

sitlet said:
Yep..
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I was offering that as a suggestion to the OP.
Sent from my RamenizedEvo on Cricket.

Isn't there a lil thing ^^ called search? wtf is everyone's eyes broken or something they need to move xda away from the bridge the damn trolls are swarming like someone kicked a beehive
We are legion, for we are many.

I'll go ahead and link you to a thread will appropriately address this one. Please read through the entire thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1471025

Well, I'm more puzzled than ever now.
My question asks about the existence of wireless tethering apps OTHER than WiFi Tether and Wireless Tether, specifically apps that are not restricted to non secure sites.
I spent almost a full hour searching before I posted, but I did not mention that in my question as I did not think it was pertinent.
I had already looked at the sticky about wireless tethering, but that thread discusses wireless tethering SPEED issues - not my issue. Again, my issue is loosing the connection between my phone and client (originally my laptop, but since confirmed with my iPad) when using either of the two mentioned wireless apps.
As long as the tether stays connected, I have no problem with 4G speed. But I only remain connected for two or three minutes.
And the thread Concordium linked to seems to be about bashing the original poster of that thread, so no help there either. Unless I missed something.

Wireless tether for root connects to anysite you want I use it everyday on 2 devices works just fine connecting to anything I need
We are legion, for we are many.

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Wireless tether for root connects to anysite you want I use it everyday on 2 devices works just fine connecting to anything I need
We are legion, for we are many.
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Thanks. I mentioned in my original post that both Wireless Tether and Wifi Tether are not working on my EVO.
Initially they do start and connect, but within 2 to 3 minutes they both stop tethering. I'm starting to wonder if some other app may be interfering.
Does anybody know for sure if my phone's WiFi should be running or not? Sometimes I get that "What the hell..." message.

I reread your original post and it looks like you answered your own question in your original post. It DID work until you flashed to another ROM. So common sense would suggest that it is some kind of issue with the ROM or the way it is setup. Perhaps you should take a look at that and use that in your query. If you don't want to flash something else then that's cool. But you're not going to fix your problem until you fool around with it.

Well, yes, but Like I said above, sometimes I get that "What the hell? Your phone takes over the WiFi..."
I don't know if you are familiar with that. It suggests to me that something is hijacking my WiFi radio.
Maybe I need to learn how to ask better questions.

WiFi Tethering not working on ParanoidAndroid 1.9a

Hello everyone, I recently joined this forum, as you can probably tell...:silly: Anyways, I recently installed ParanoidAndroid 1.9a for my phone. The minute I picked it up I fell in love with it. However, before I completely switched to PA, I checked some of the apps I would use the most. PDAnet was one of those few. I tried using the android wifi tether app. Though it would not work, I would check to see if there was a log to see if there were any errors, but when I go to check it, I get an error saying that there is no log. I need to use those two apps, because they are the only way I can access the internet through my PC. So before I switch to PA, is there a way I can get the Wifi Tether app working? Thanks.

I've been checking around the tether app some more, though I haven't found a fix. I tried the Routing Fix, though that doesn't work. I've tried messing with the settings though I still can't get it to work. Maybe the Wifi Tethering app won't work with ParanoidAndroid? I really want to keep PA, but if I can't use the Wifi tethering app, then I can't keep it, as tethering via Wifi or USB are the only ways I can access the internet through my PC.

No one has an answer? D:

Its in alpha and cm 10 is not done merging changes it will probally be fixed later on
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DarkBanHammer said:
Its in alpha and cm 10 is not done merging changes it will probally be fixed later on
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Oh, okay then, I'll have to find an alternative to use or just keep it...I dunno, I really need the wifi tethering, but I want to keep PA....Gotta think about this...Thanks though!

Godson777 said:
Oh, okay then, I'll have to find an alternative to use or just keep it...I dunno, I really need the wifi tethering, but I want to keep PA....Gotta think about this...Thanks though!
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edit.
built in tether works fine.

[Q] PS Vita won't communicate with any Jelly Bean-based ROM's wifi AP

So this is a bizarre situation that I hope someone might have some insight on but to be honest, I'm not expecting much
For some reason my PS Vita will connect to my phone's wifi hotspot just fine in ICS-based ROMs like CM10, however it will connect, get an IP address, and appear to communicate but time out when trying to connect to the playstation network or anything at all when using either stock Jelly Bean or any of the various edits I've tried.
I've tried about everything I can on the Vita end but there isn't a whole lot I can do there other than clear settings, try static DNS, things like that. The only thing that seems to work is using old ICS-based ROMs.
Has anyone experienced anything like this, or have any ides for deeper diagnostics I can do?

Cm10 just happens to be jellybean so did it work for cm9 or cm10 or was it working with 4.0.x and not with 4.1.x or is it just 4.2.x its not working with?
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Beamer9408 said:
Cm10 just happens to be jellybean so did it work for cm9 or cm10 or was it working with 4.0.x and not with 4.1.x or is it just 4.2.x its not working with?
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4.2 specifically, then. I forgot that both of those are Jelly Bean!

Bump in case someone else might see this and have any ideas =\

This is now one of the top results when I search for this problem
Is there anything I can do so I have enough data for a proper bug report? A netcat tool or something? How would I go about investigating this issue?

Boten Anna said:
This is now one of the top results when I search for this problem
Is there anything I can do so I have enough data for a proper bug report? A netcat tool or something? How would I go about investigating this issue?
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Any luck with this?
I'm on Verizon and just got pushed JDQ39. It was totally working in the previous version (which I think was 4.1.1 but I don't know). Now, like you, the Vita connects, gets an IP address, but can't connect to anything.

langdonx said:
Any luck with this?
I'm on Verizon and just got pushed JDQ39. It was totally working in the previous version (which I think was 4.1.1 but I don't know). Now, like you, the Vita connects, gets an IP address, but can't connect to anything.
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Same problem.someone please help

You'll have to wait for 4.3 and hope google fixed it (pretty sure they will)
sent from my Galaxy Nexus w/ Beats Audio™ by Dr. Dre

Alton (Halo 2) said:
You'll have to wait for 4.3 and hope google fixed it (pretty sure they will)
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Is there some way to report it as a bug or track the bug if it already exists? Do they use code.google.com like Chromium does?

langdonx said:
Is there some way to report it as a bug or track the bug if it already exists? Do they use code.google.com like Chromium does?
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I'm on a galaxy nexus, google results brought me here because my phone's hotspot works for all other devices, but not on my vita. I'm on 4.3
Someone tell me if 4.4 will work or what I can change, downgrade to, or possibly replace as a tethering app. I've tried all the non-root ones such as foxfi with the same results.
Update, it works with liquidsmooth ics rom 4.0.4

WiFi Tethering Still A Problem For This Device...WHY?

I know this is probably not the section for this topic but there have been several posts on it with no definitive answers....I use FoxFi WiFi Tether on all my devices without a glitch, even the new Nexus 5, but not this phone " WHY ????? ", it doesn't make sense. With this device it shows a connection to the computer but it wont allow the internet connection....I can use the USB function of the FoxFi but have to install PDAnet to work. I know TrevE WiFi Tether app is installed with most Roms and works to a certain degree but not copletely with ZVC. From what I can deduce, it has something to do with the WPA (WPA2) settings for the phone. This is obviously a Dev issue so will someone with the know-how fix this problem for everyone....Personally, I will be happy to donate to someone to get it done.....so "Brains", get a project going on it and help us out....Thanks...

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I know this is probably not the section for this topic but there have been several posts on it with no definitive answers....I use FoxFi WiFi Tether on all my devices without a glitch, even the new Nexus 5, but not this phone " WHY ????? ", it doesn't make sense. With this device it shows a connection to the computer but it wont allow the internet connection....I can use the USB function of the FoxFi but have to install PDAnet to work. I know TrevE WiFi Tether app is installed with most Roms and works to a certain degree but not copletely with ZVC. From what I can deduce, it has something to do with the WPA (WPA2) settings for the phone. This is obviously a Dev issue so will someone with the know-how fix this problem for everyone....Personally, I will be happy to donate to someone to get it done.....so "Brains", get a project going on it and help us out....Thanks...
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I never had a problem with Treve Wifi tether, although I don't use it for long at a time I just set device to galaxy nexus cdma/lte and it works. I do wish we had the native option enabled like my wifes S3 and our old Evo's, the native option is by far the best.

That's really weird.. I don't have any issues with WiFi tethering. Please request a moderator to move this to Q&A Wrong Section!!!!
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jonahly said:
That's really weird.. I don't have any issues with WiFi tethering. Please request a moderator to move this to Q&A Wrong Section!!!!
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I'm not the only one with this problem....In the Q&A section there are several posts on this with no solution. I already stated I can use TrevE wifi tether and it connects but it will not let me download torrents or other tracked downloads....I appreciate your input and please humor me by trying to download a torrent and let me know if you can. If you can, please give me your settings and which Rom and Kernel you are using. I placed this thread here to try to get better responses because no one is offering any solutions in any of the other threads.

gorillajuice said:
I never had a problem with Treve Wifi tether, although I don't use it for long at a time I just set device to galaxy nexus cdma/lte and it works. I do wish we had the native option enabled like my wifes S3 and our old Evo's, the native option is by far the best.
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Thank you for your response. I've tried every setting possible that I know of for TrevE wifi, and like I said, I can connect but it does not let me download torrents and any tracked downloads. When I was on ZV9 Lifeless it worked fine but upgrading to ZVC caused the problems. I will ask you as I asked the other responder, please try to download a torrent with Utorrent and let me know if you can. If you can I would appreciate knowing what Rom, Kernel and Wifi settings you have. Thanks.

devo3d said:
Thank you for your response. I've tried every setting possible that I know of for TrevE wifi, and like I said, I can connect but it does not let me download torrents and any tracked downloads. When I was on ZV9 Lifeless it worked fine but upgrading to ZVC caused the problems. I will ask you as I asked the other responder, please try to download a torrent with Utorrent and let me know if you can. If you can I would appreciate knowing what Rom, Kernel and Wifi settings you have. Thanks.
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Have you tried with any aosp roms using native tether?

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Have you tried with any aosp roms using native tether?
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Well actually, I've downloaded a couple thinking that would work and tried to install but I can't get data working. I even tried that "apn" fix. At first, I downloaded Kit Kat 4.4, then CM 11. After initial install I don't have any service what so ever then after the "apn" fix, I have service but no data. I've never used AOSP Roms before so apparently I have no idea what I am doing installing them. If you have any pointers I would appreciate it.
PM me if you want.

devo3d said:
Well actually, I've downloaded a couple thinking that would work and tried to install but I can't get data working. I even tried that "apn" fix. At first, I downloaded Kit Kat 4.4, then CM 11. After initial install I don't have any service what so ever then after the "apn" fix, I have service but no data. I've never used AOSP Roms before so apparently I have no idea what I am doing installing them. If you have any pointers I would appreciate it.
PM me if you want.
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It may be something with your phone then if you cant get tether on any aosp rom. Did you use Freegee to flash recovery? I only ask because the newer aosp roms some require a special recovery for them to flash correctly but if you use Freegee either recovery works just fine.

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It may be something with your phone then if you cant get tether on any aosp rom. Did you use Freegee to flash recovery? I only ask because the newer aosp roms some require a special recovery for them to flash correctly but if you use Freegee either recovery works just fine.
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I guess I'll try to install an AOSP Rom again and see what happens...oh boy :/

I flashef back to dev edition 5.0 and used Treve wifi tether to download a torrent on my wifes S3. The only thing I did was change device profile to generic wlan0 and check send netd max client cmd.
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gorillajuice said:
I flashef back to dev edition 5.0 and used Treve wifi tether to download a torrent on my wifes S3. The only thing I did was change device profile to generic wlan0 and check send netd max client cmd.
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I was hoping you could do it on this device. TrevE's works on my other phones too, just not this one.

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WiFi hotspot on aosp ROMs or custom ROM I'm using Cm11 to feed wifi to my nexus 7 from my ls970.

gorillajuice said:
I flashef back to dev edition 5.0 and used Treve wifi tether to download a torrent on my wifes S3. The only thing I did was change device profile to generic wlan0 and check send netd max client cmd.
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I know this is an issue with the OG because its the only phone FoxFi does not work on.....and Ive tried 17 different phones, all the major brands and a couple china phones too. On my old S3, both FoxFi and TrevE worked fine...Is there a built in firewall in the WiFi system of this phone? Damn i wish I knew how to rewrite script...

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I know this is an issue with the OG because its the only phone FoxFi does not work on.....and Ive tried 17 different phones, all the major brands and a couple china phones too. On my old S3, both FoxFi and TrevE worked fine...Is there a built in firewall in the WiFi system of this phone? Damn i wish I knew how to rewrite script...
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Im kinda confused now because I've download torrents on my phone and my nexus 7 using utorrent and wifi tether, I just downloaded the Scott Pilgrim vs. the World soundtrack on my nexus 7 so I know it works. I will try Foxfi and see what happens but I would guess Treve wifi would be the better option. Have you tried Treve wifi using the settings I mentioned above, I've been using treve wifi since evo3d days and never had a problem once I got it setup properly.

if we can get through entitlement checks for the tether all the others will work after that i bet. i suck at smali but there are lots of devs that done in here. any takers?

gorillajuice said:
Im kinda confused now because I've download torrents on my phone and my nexus 7 using utorrent and wifi tether, I just downloaded the Scott Pilgrim vs. the World soundtrack on my nexus 7 so I know it works. I will try Foxfi and see what happens but I would guess Treve wifi would be the better option. Have you tried Treve wifi using the settings I mentioned above, I've been using treve wifi since evo3d days and never had a problem once I got it setup properly.
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Yes, I've tried your settings. I have the DE v5 download....I'll install it again and try your settings on that Rom....do kernels have anything to do with the wifi stuff?
Thanks for continuing to try and help...

Code-Craft said:
if we can get through entitlement checks for the tether all the others will work after that i bet. i suck at smali but there are lots of devs that done in here. any takers?
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So basically you are saying it is possible to make the wifi tethering issues better for this device, just finding a Dev to work out the problems is the issue..
Like I've said before, I don't mind donating to that project if someone will step up to do it. I'm simple minded when it comes to stuff like that but would it not be possible to copy code from another LG device ( like the Nexus 5) that tether works well and just work it in?

devo3d said:
So basically you are saying it is possible to make the wifi tethering issues better for this device, just finding a Dev to work out the problems is the issue..
Like I've said before, I don't mind donating to that project if someone will step up to do it. I'm simple minded when it comes to stuff like that but would it not be possible to copy code from another LG device ( like the Nexus 5) that tether works well and just work it in?
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i was looking at another source for the sprint gs4 it is missing all the entitlement smali code in services.jar so even if you delete the entitlement code you have to sift through the other files to delete any other code that defines the entitlement code. ill pull both of them up on a diff viewer.
and see how different they really are....

gorillajuice said:
I flashef back to dev edition 5.0 and used Treve wifi tether to download a torrent on my wifes S3. The only thing I did was change device profile to generic wlan0 and check send netd max client cmd.
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I reinstalled DE 5.0 and used your settings and still get the same thing...it connects and i can download regular files but not torrents...I wonder if its a wifi setting on my computer....

devo3d said:
I reinstalled DE 5.0 and used your settings and still get the same thing...it connects and i can download regular files but not torrents...I wonder if its a wifi setting on my computer....
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OK I thought you were trying to download on your phone. On your computer you have to make sure the correct ports are open. Im not sure but I think the ports that need to be open for torrents start around 6881 and if its not open the program will try to use the next available port that can be used for torrents. Vuze makes setup easy and is much faster than bittorrent or utorrent and its not constantly downloading background stuff like bittorrent and utorrent.