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Since the AT&T GSIII) and T-mobile GSIII) are basically the same phone I wounder if the AT&T version will work on T-mobile 3G/4G. Similar to the way the AT&T Galaxy Note works on T-mobile 3G/4G. I was gone probably by the phone out right to use on T-mobile. AT&T has it for 550.00 where as T-mobile has it for 630.00.
I don't think so because att phone doesn't support mobile's aws band but idk if you could flash a modem. I did that on my note but the speeds were horrible. But yea t-mobile is expensive I just paid 680$ for my s3 today at my retail store..
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I don't know, i'm wondering the same thing. the phones are identical. I think it's a very high possibility that there will be rom/radio/ kernal combinations in the future that will cater to t mobile radios that we will easily be able to flash. Just unlocked mine, I think i'm gonna have faith in US GSIII development, identical hardware and eventual full cross compatibility.
As far as I know, the Att has an lte modem and the tmo doesn't. I read that even when tmo launches LTE it won't work with the gs3. But, the tmo has att hspa+ support 1700mhz and should work with att 3g no problem.
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Has anybody tried popping a Tmobile sim in an AT&T GS III?
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The modem for lte or hspa+ is built into the msm8960. In theory they should be interchangeable
Would be interesting experiment for someone with rooted phone to try loading the alternative kernel/baseband then applicable sim.
Keeping fingers crossed,
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The modem for lte or hspa+ is built into the msm8960. In theory they should be interchangeable
Would be interesting experiment for someone with rooted phone to try loading the alternative kernel/baseband then applicable sim.
Keeping fingers crossed.
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Think it was done by tsp and failed. Also how do you know the mms8960 works on T-Mobile's 1700 band? So far no evidence.
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There is snapdragon s4 whitepaper that states modem can do lte cat3, and dc-hspa+ cat24.
Elsewhere states that the rf for common freqs range 700-2600.
Do not have link handy.but try developer.qualcomm.com
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What I don't get is why t-mobile would use a different chipset if the 747's msm8960 was compatible with 1700 aws. Especially since t-mobile is spending billions to refarm right now to make all gsm devices compatible with their network. It just doesn't make sense. Until there's confirmation, there are reasons to have doubts.
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There are some reports on xda that t999 variant used the msm8260 which is similar chipset but NO LTE.
I would be interested in link wrt tsp attempt at baseband flash, especially which s3 was used.
I find surprising samsung would bother with these build variants.
Does not bode well for FM....
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There are some reports on xda that t999 variant used the msm8260 which is similar chipset but NO LTE.
I would be interested in link wrt tsp attempt at baseband flash, especially which s3 was used.
I find surprising samsung would bother with these build variants.
Does not bode well for FM....
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He spoke about trying to flash the t-mobile s3 radio in another thread earlier with no results. Returned his and ordered the t-mobile variant. I ordered a skyrocket myself. So far it doesn't look good. But of course with radios nothing is concrete. All we can do is flash their files and hope something sticks.
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He spoke about trying to flash the t-mobile s3 radio in another thread earlier with no results. Returned his and ordered the t-mobile variant. I ordered a skyrocket myself. So far it doesn't look good. But of course with radios nothing is concrete. All we can do is flash their files and hope something sticks.
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Has anyone tried injecting the modem.bin of T999 to the i747M CWM flash ready file and has their phone network unlocked with T-Moblie/Mobilicity/Wind sim?
There are at least two "versions" of the MSM8960, one with the LTE support, one without. The TMO version has the MSM8260A modem, which can be verified with getprop from the terminal. In essence, the TMO version does have the newer S4 (Krait) CPU, but it does lack the LTE hardware. So, no, the phones are not identical. The TMO version does support AT&T HSPA frequencies though, but the ATT version does not (at least in the default configuration) support TMO HSPA frequencies. Whether that can be changed or not, I don't know.
From "getprop" in terminal:
ro.board.platform - msm8960
ril.modem.board - msm8260a
What does the AT&T version say?
When Amazon first posted the AT&T version on their site I read a review about it saying it would work on T-Mobiles network for voice but not data.
When Amazon first posted the AT&T version on their site I read a review about it saying it would work on T-Mobiles network for voice but not data.
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What they undoubtedly meant was that you would only get plain old GSM (EDGE, GPRS, etc.) with the AT&T version on T-Mobile, due to the lack of proper frequency support for T-Mobile's network. Still voice and data, just slow as hell by today's standards. However, the T-Mobile version fully supports AT&T frequencies for HSPA (no LTE though).
I'm about to upgrade my mytouch 4g to S3. But I'm wondering if S3 will support future LTE network. I've heard that in future 3G network will use 1900 band and lte will be implement on 1700/2100. Can S3 support LTE in future? If not, I'll probably wait for next year to upgrade my phone. THanks.
I think the only carriers version that does not is tmobile.
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No, it will not support the LTE network. It is not included in the SoC of the phone.
Oh. That sounds pretty bad to me. But I thought tmo uses 1700/2100 for its lte network and MSM8960 has lte chip correct?
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Oh. That sounds pretty bad to me. But I thought tmo uses 1700/2100 for its lte network and MSM8960 has lte chip correct?
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This phone doesn't have an MSM8960. It has an MSM8260A.
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I saw a pic of someone using a vzw s3 in china on HSPA+ getting 10 Mbps I don't know if anyone has tryed unlocking a vzw s3 and using it on tmoble to see if it works on there HSPA+ I do know its going to be global ready by the of the year via a ota update hopefully with jellybean but it might be something worth looking into
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I feel bad for the horse named LTE.. js
I saw they are planning LTE implementation in early 2013. Does anyone believe that? And where? Granted, they need to be able to compete so they've got to act relatively quickly, but in my experience HSPA+ ain't bad. I'm imagining I'll be ready to upgrade my S3 by the time LTE matters (Metro West Boston). Whatchya'll think?
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I saw they are planning LTE implementation in early 2013. Does anyone believe that? And where? Granted, they need to be able to compete so they've got to act relatively quickly, but in my experience HSPA+ ain't bad. I'm imagining I'll be ready to upgrade my S3 by the time LTE matters (Metro West Boston). Whatchya'll think?
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Whooosh? Lol
Yes T-Mobile is slowly adding lte, the same band at&t uses. But like others have said, our T-Mobile version does not have the hardware to support it. If anything we need to use the at&t version, but we'll be missing the h+ bands.. so it's a clear cut from edge to lte... probably going to be spotty.. i would rather just stick with h+ or use s4
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Whooosh? Lol
Yes T-Mobile is slowly adding lte, the same band at&t uses. But like others have said, our T-Mobile version does not have the hardware to support it. If anything we need to use the at&t version, but we'll be missing the h+ bands.. so it's a clear cut from edge to lte... probably going to be spotty.. i would rather just stick with h+ or use s4
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What? The guy asked a different question..
And T-Mobile is deploying LTE on their AWS bands I'm pretty sure, not 700mhz.
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What? The guy asked a different question..
And T-Mobile is deploying LTE on their AWS bands I'm pretty sure, not 700mhz.
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Yes. That's correct. TMO is deploying LTE on AWS 1700/2100 and use 1900(from ATT) for their H+ network. So that's why I'm a little confused here.
If let's say tmo finished upgrading, would the phone without 1900 band still be able to use the hsdpa+ network? I guess I have wait until they finish the upgrade.
I'm starting to believe Samsung are pushing these S3 phones away to release a newer S3 or something. $50 for a S3 with 2 year contract is ridiculously cheaper than any other recent phones on the market. It may be cheaper than S2. Companies usually do these type of moves when getting rid of something to present something newer (maybe the Note II) but to answer your answer, no. T999 doesn't support LTE but LTE does need AWS spectrum which T999 has.
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Whooosh? Lol
Yes T-Mobile is slowly adding lte, the same band at&t uses. But like others have said, our T-Mobile version does not have the hardware to support it. If anything we need to use the at&t version, but we'll be missing the h+ bands.. so it's a clear cut from edge to lte... probably going to be spotty.. i would rather just stick with h+ or use s4
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Its kinda silly that it doesn't. Here in Canada we have a company called Telus and they have the SIIX and it has LTE & it will connect to WIND (another carrier in Canada) which has the same AWS band as T-Mobile.
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Yes. That's correct. TMO is deploying LTE on AWS 1700/2100 and use 1900(from ATT) for their H+ network. So that's why I'm a little confused here.
If let's say tmo finished upgrading, would the phone without 1900 band still be able to use the hsdpa+ network? I guess I have wait until they finish the upgrade.
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Oh yeah, i totally mixed things up, sorry about that.
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MSM8960 chip supports LTE. can someone check.
So what qualcomm chip does this Tmo S3 have? Based off this teardown link its at:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/cr...s-easy-open-case-difficult-to-fix-display/666
And that chip has LTE capability look at the S4 plus specs http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/s4/specs
Has anybody opened the phone to double check?
We've already had this discussion when the phone was first released. The short answer is no.
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I saw a pic of someone using a vzw s3 in china on HSPA+ getting 10 Mbps I don't know if anyone has tryed unlocking a vzw s3 and using it on tmoble to see if it works on there HSPA+ I do know its going to be global ready by the of the year via a ota update hopefully with jellybean but it might be something worth looking into
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I'm on a Tmobile Galaxy S3, in boston, getting 11Mb down on my phone with wifi turned off.
Hi guys,
I'm wondering should i go for the HSPA+ on the galaxy note 2, since i hear it's more battery friendly ?
Dose the Galaxy note 2 international version support HSPA+ 1700 ? and LTE ? i really tried to figure out the differences but i couldn't.
I'm using my simple mobile in Austin, TX and they are pretty cheap and offer HSPA+ 1700, which i'm willing to go for and trade LTE for battery. is this a good idea?
Your thoughts about the white vs gray ? ,, gray looks cool
im in the us, which is a good site to order from? ,, should i buy or is it wiser to wait?
Thank you guys in advance and please help
Fellow Austinite here also excited for the Note II! I'm gonna wait for the T-Mobile version. It's going to have support for their HSPA+ network and is future proofed with LTE when T-Mobile starts deploying that, so you should be able to choose which radio you want on.
From an article I read several weeks back when the TMobile Note2 was first leaked, the TMobile version will only support HSPA+. It won't even support TMobile's LTE, when the get around to building it. So I'm waiting to see if the ATT version will cover TMobile's frequencies or how modem flashing works out.
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From an article I read several weeks back when the TMobile Note2 was first leaked, the TMobile version will only support HSPA+. It won't even support TMobile's LTE, when the get around to building it. So I'm waiting to see if the ATT version will cover TMobile's frequencies or how modem flashing works out.
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According to FCC
The note II on t-mobile WILL support their LTE and it will be future proof.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mo...s-through-the-fcc-is-future-proofed-with-lte/
T-Mo seems to be the version to get!! love their use of DC-HSPA
Thanks guys! You're the best,
definitely waiting for T Mo's and getting the best of both worlds
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Get the HSPA+. It is more battery friendly like you said, and HSPA+ is actually comparable to LTE.
LTE has its MAJOR benefits. I love LTE but right now, I'm gonna jump on the HSPA int'l version first.
Guess I'm waiting for the TMobile one. Also curious how flashable the modem is. It would be nice is the differences between all the phones was only a flash.
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Get the HSPA+. It is more battery friendly like you said, and HSPA+ is actually comparable to LTE.
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Is the International version currently out compatible with HSPA+ 1700 that t mobile and simple mobile are currently providing??
If yes, where can I get it from?
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Is the International version currently out compatible with HSPA+ 1700 that t mobile and simple mobile are currently providing??
If yes, where can I get it from?
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No, but remember that T-Mo is changing their 1900 Edge band to HSPA+. If you wait a couple of years than it will be compatible with T-Mo H+.
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Guys,
I so want to buy the note 2 like today. However T-Mobile has no coverage in my area. If I buy the phone at full price I can get it unlocked. Am just wondering if T-Mobile note will work on at&t lte Or hspa+.
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Guys,
I so want to buy the note 2 like today. However T-Mobile has no coverage in my area. If I buy the phone at full price I can get it unlocked. Am just wondering if T-Mobile note will work on at&t lte Or hspa+.
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The phone does support HSPA+ on AT&T out the box since the bands are included. The phone also has T-Mobile LTE frequency as well, but is said to be locked down by software since T-Mobile does not have LTE up and running yet. I believe T-Mobile and AT&T do use the same frequency for LTE. Only way to know if someone unlocks their device and puts in an AT&T sim.
According to AnandTech review it WILL support ATT LTE. So how does a non-Tmobile user unlock this phone??? I want to use on ATT.
From the review...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6386/samsung-galaxy-note-2-review-t-mobile-/9
One of the most interesting things about the Galaxy Note 2 on T-Mobile is that it literally is the same hardware as the AT&T Note 2 with LTE. Sure, the model number is different, but the T-Mobile Note 2 includes support for LTE bands 17 (which AT&T uses) and 4 (AWS, which AT&T has specced devices out for and T-Mobile has confirmed it will deploy LTE on). This is to my knowledge the first T-Mobile handset with overt LTE support, and thus a solid future-proof purchase if you’re determined to have a T-Mobile handset that will work with the carrier’s upcoming LTE on AWS plans.
In addition, if you unlock the handset there’s no reason it shouldn’t work on AT&T’s LTE network that I can see. I managed to unlock the T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2 but not before leaving the AT&T LTE market in Dallas. It does however work as expected on WCDMA 1900 in my own market on AT&T after unlocking.
Will the Note 2 work on streight talk as well?
I'm curious if the note II would work on att's 3g network. I'm with Sprint atm but I'm constantly roaming due to poor coverage so I'm assuming it won't be long till they nix my contract and paying $100+ for limited data is just ridiculous to me so I was going to go with TMobile but they only have.edge coverage around here no 3g so I was hoping if I went with TMobile I could use AT&T towers and actually have a decently priced plan with real service.
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sats.mine2k4 said:
Guys,
I so want to buy the note 2 like today. However T-Mobile has no coverage in my area. If I buy the phone at full price I can get it unlocked. Am just wondering if T-Mobile note will work on at&t lte Or hspa+.
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Im in the same boat im going thru the same thing I have both simplemobile/tmo and Att for work and i played with the international version and ofourse it was fine with my Att sim i didnt try my simplemoble/tmo sim at the time but im hearing the tmo version is exactly like the att and international one so imma just use my work phone/att to save some money(I use google voice so it doesnt matter what phone i use same number) and plus im suppose to get a discounted price so lets say i can possible be very happy this weekend!! but imma take the chance all the info i read states it will work with Att hspa+network so well see soon! if nobody tries it before me...
I took the plunge...
I bought the TMOB version
Cellunlocker.net unlocked it (I selected the international note 2 option)
Pooped in my at&t sim
No LTE!!!
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ekerbuddyeker said:
I took the plunge...
I bought the TMOB version
Cellunlocker.net unlocked it (I selected the international note 2 option)
Pooped in my at&t sim
No LTE!!!
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Lol @ "Pooped in my at&t sim"!
ekerbuddyeker said:
I took the plunge...
I bought the TMOB version
Cellunlocker.net unlocked it (I selected the international note 2 option)
Pooped in my at&t sim
No LTE!!!
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did u get hspa+ atleast? im thinking of getting note 2 from tmobile and using at&t
It says 4G
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It says 4G
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thats good. hspa+ is all i need
how much was it to get it unlock
$25
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$25
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thanks.
LTE band might just be software locked since T-Mo has yet to get LTE, FCC filings showed LTE capability. YMMV
So how does one unloxk that?
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Hacked radio. Prob be a while for that though. Need att radio drivers most likely.
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additional evidence that it's LTE enabled (technically)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6386/samsung-galaxy-note-2-review-t-mobile-/9
not sure how to "unlock" the LTE functionality
Well I am enjoying the device. Im Missing LTE in NYC where 4G is not great!
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Well I am enjoying the device. Im Missing LTE in NYC where 4G is not great!
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Make sure your using the right APN....... if your not using the right APN you won't get lte
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Most likely your going to need the At&t radio just how At&t note 1 worked on t-mobile 4g by flashing the radio... maybe even a full on rom from at&t version since all the phones now come with the same hardware
Have an AT&T i317 unlocked with a T-mobile data sim.
I've done the tweak to enable the 3G/4G bands, a la http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068041
But now T-mobile added LTE in a few markets. I drove through one and suddenly got no data access. This is with "preferred network mode" set to LTE/WCDMA. If I switch to GSM/WCDMA, all is well (it sticks to the HSUPA and H+). So clearly it thinks it's on LTE but the phone can't access the T-mobile LTE.
I'm using Cyanogenmod 10.1, android 4.2.2, which also makes the model number show GT-N7105 instead of i317.
any tweaks to add the LTE? do i need to dump CM and use a diff ROM? do i need to go back to stock first to do any of this? (Right now, I can no longer dial *#7284#)
Thanks!
I am having a similar issue, I have a sgh-i317 with aws mod and the phone is not picking up t mobile lte even when placed next to a sgh-t889 that is getting it. Lte works with att sim but not working with tmobile sim. Any help would be great. I have tried many roms and modems and reflashing aws mod. Roms inculde jedimaster13/14 jedi x13/14 both att and tmobile versions and clean rom and stock 411 and stock 412
I figured it out see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...2-sgh-i317-t2877487/post55453837#post55453837
Does the AT&T version have LTE? If it doesn't have the capability, but he modem is telling it to access it when it sees it, that might be why it dropped out completely. I'm mostly curious to see if AT&T LTE devices can use t-mobile's LTE network because I want to get an s4 active and I don't want to lose LTE by making that switch.
Try this for me, instead of that model number you have. Change it to the T-Mobile model#. Which is going to have to b done thru the build prop. Then reboot. Then go try and c if you pick up lte.
Because I just flashed a AT&T Rom on a T-Mobile GN2. And I pick up lte just fine with my AT&T SIM in there! And no AWS MOD what so ever. But the MODEM is still TMO, it'll always b TMO. Flash a att modem on a TMO GN2. Brick city.
Let me know what happens just curious!!
Edit: the Rom I flashed was SKY NOTE 9. No modem included!!!
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I don't have any solution for the question but I do have a question of my own.
Why do I keep reading of people buying att devices for t mobile, why not just buy the t mobile version?
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LittleRedDot said:
I don't have any solution for the question but I do have a question of my own.
Why do I keep reading of people buying att devices for t mobile, why not just buy the t mobile version?
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WELL, here's your answer.
Maybe they getting the device at a cheaper price. Which would make someone but it. Instead of spending a lot more to have have the carrier brand you need. FYI
Both the phones are exactly the same. Besides the model# and done bloat. Like I said above, if it's unlocked it'll work, with both carrier's. So why not have that option to switch... and one more thing being able to take the phone internationally, and pop a SIM inside and ya have service. No roaming !!!
Just my 2¢® 2 you're question...
Att now has prepaid lte plan almost same as tmobile only .5 gb less of data everything else the same at 60 dollars . Plus att has better coverage well at least in the areas I frequent .
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diamantericos said:
Att now has prepaid lte plan almost same as tmobile only .5 gb less of data everything else the same at 60 dollars . Plus att has better coverage well at least in the areas I frequent .
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THANX for the info...:thumbup:
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I don't have any solution for the question but I do have a question of my own.
Why do I keep reading of people buying att devices for t mobile, why not just buy the t mobile version?
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When a t-mobile version is available, I do buy it, but with ATT exclusives, that's not an option. For instance, I want the s4 active for its water resistance. T-mobile will soon offer the xperia Z, but when you compare the features and perormance, the s4 active is better, so for the money i'm willing to spend on a smartphone, i'd rather have the s4 active.. the hardware is capable of t-mobile LTE, but it still has to be configured properly with firmware and software to use the radios correctly. Since radios are some of the hardest pieces of firmware to alter, it's worth doing this investigation / collaborating to find work-arounds.
I didn't get tmobile lte on my at&t note 2 until I flashed the new at&t radio. That's all that had to be done. I'm using Skynote9 too. I did the aws mod again so I could get h+ 4g speed enabled and now is a flawless tmobile phone. Let me know if it works for you.
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update to my lte problem with t mobile
check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...2-sgh-i317-t2877487/post55453837#post55453837