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Google should create icloud-like app backup system

Seriously, this is the only thing that makes me root. I used to root for a whole bunch of other stuff, but I've been getting so busy as of late, where flashing just has not been feasible for my time.
On the iPhone, you are able to go into the iCloud settings menu, and tick on or off each and every app+appdata that you want to backup. This puts the data in the cloud, but that part I don't really care about, I'm fine putting the backup data on my 32gb worth of storage. The drive support would be an excellent bonus.
Alas, I don't think it'll happen for a long while... and therefore god bless Titanium Track & his amazing backup app. Although sometimes problematic, it is a handy app.

Google I/O is in a few weeks. Maybe they'll announce something similar.
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The thing is, Google already does this, the issue being hardly any apps take advantage of it, and there's no transparency about which apps do and don't do it.
Since they already do it, I'd hope they just clarify and setup a standard for it.

Yeah, like was said earlier, Google provides a way for apps to include data as a part of the backup that is used when restore. I'm not sure why app developers don't take advantage of it however.

bozzykid said:
Yeah, like was said earlier, Google provides a way for apps to include data as a part of the backup that is used when restore. I'm not sure why app developers don't take advantage of it however.
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Well i tried it and Titanium back has never backed up my entire backup to box, drive, dropbox...It always fails like 10/15 min after starting to upload... "shrug"

Big disadvantage of not having a function similar to icloud
Hi
I love the icloud feature on iOS. If you get a new iphone or ipad, you spend 2 minutes getting everything transfered from old phone/tablet to the new one. Making it very easy to upgrade to newer models.
Why doesn't Android/Samsung give the same functionality? Now I am afraid, if I loose my Galaxy S3, I loose all the settings/apps and stuff. I know there are some rather complicated ways to root and back up, but I want an easy method, where the phone makes a cloud back up, everytime it is connected to wifi, and plugged in, just like iCloud.
In Galaxy S3, there is a feature called device backup with samsung account (which cupposibly should do the same thing), but it keeps coming with some connectivity error.
Could/would anyone help me with this?
Thanks..
Keeping it real.

keepitrealdude said:
Hi
I love the icloud feature on iOS. If you get a new iphone or ipad, you spend 2 minutes getting everything transfered from old phone/tablet to the new one. Making it very easy to upgrade to newer models.
Why doesn't Android/Samsung give the same functionality? Now I am afraid, if I loose my Galaxy S3, I loose all the settings/apps and stuff. I know there are some rather complicated ways to root and back up, but I want an easy method, where the phone makes a cloud back up, everytime it is connected to wifi, and plugged in, just like iCloud.
In Galaxy S3, there is a feature called device backup with samsung account (which cupposibly should do the same thing), but it keeps coming with some connectivity error.
Could/would anyone help me with this?
Thanks..
Keeping it real.
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I clicked "backup camera to dropbox when on wifi" so every picture i take is backed up. and google already saves my contacts and wifi passwords. Not sure what else you need saved, apps?
Also android cant do that because all the phones are different, with different incompatibilities with software. Apple phones are easy because apple makes the phones and the software. Where as android, google makes the OS while the manufacturers make the phones. This is why some get features like that but only for their phones. Android is fragmented.

Android also downloads and installs the apps you had installed before if you choose " backup with Google and restore". I think That's what it says.. All you have to do is sign in with your gmail account. Same with contacts.
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niamul said:
Android also downloads and installs the apps you had installed before if you choose " backup with Google and restore". I think That's what it says.. All you have to do is sign in with your gmail account. Same with contacts.
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But app data doesn't get synced up. That's bad.

impu153 said:
But app data doesn't get synced up. That's bad.
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My wife's iPhone app data does not seem to be backed up.
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As has been mentioned before, this already exists. Google has had it for a while now. The problem is that app developers have to implement it. If there is an app you want to take advantage of that, the only solution would be to harass the app developer until they add it.

This already exist. The reason why no one really knows about it is because Google doesn't brag about it.
They have more stuff then apple and it's better then apple's system.
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They have more stuff then apple and it's better then apple's system.
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Team Google 4 eva!

Darunion said:
I clicked "backup camera to dropbox when on wifi" so every picture i take is backed up. and google already saves my contacts and wifi passwords. Not sure what else you need saved, apps?
Also android cant do that because all the phones are different, with different incompatibilities with software. Apple phones are easy because apple makes the phones and the software. Where as android, google makes the OS while the manufacturers make the phones. This is why some get features like that but only for their phones. Android is fragmented.
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Hi. Thanks. Yes I agree woth you on that, But What I want is a feature like icloud. where I all the apps, and other data are preinstalled after a factory reset and reinstall. Samsung does have a feature called Device backup. Don't know if it does the same thing..

keepitrealdude said:
Hi. Thanks. Yes I agree woth you on that, But What I want is a feature like icloud. where I all the apps, and other data are preinstalled after a factory reset and reinstall. Samsung does have a feature called Device backup. Don't know if it does the same thing..
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at least some third part applications can do that ...

Is using an app like Lookout even necessary?

How many people use apps like Lookout that scan your phone and supposedly offer ant-virus protection? Are they even necessary?

Don't think you'll find many that do. Other than corporate security reasons. All of is crackflashers don't stay on the same system long enough to warrant such a measure
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I like lookout for the scream feature....my wife loses her phone all the time and if I send the code through lookouts website the phone makes a loud siren sound even when on silent or vibrate. As far as the antivirus I really dont use it

I use lookout not for the scanning feature, but for the lost phone/lock/wipe features.You never know when you might need it.

Not absolutely, i use Eset Mobile on the N4, used it for many years allready om my pc`s. Better safe than sorry. And always look at the permissions you are about to give to an app when installing.

I used Lookout for 2 years on my HTC Desire then decided to uninstall it about 6 months ago. Can't say I've missed it.
I've not put it on my N4.

Common sense, and checking permissions is much more important than an anti virus imo. Google play store already has the bouncer that scans all the apps. Most of these malware apps that users install come from people not willing to cough up a few dollars for apps and getting said apps from third party sites, and torrents often repackaged with malware, and imo it looks good on them. Support the devs, don't be so cheap, and pay for apps (not directing this at anyone here, just saying). Use the Playstore, or somewhere reputable like XDA and check permissions, there's no reason a wallpaper would need access to your contact list and private info ect. Never used an antivirus on a phone and i likely never will.

i use lookout because i need to install apks from other sources..
i need to install apks from other sources because google play does not allow apks like adaway..
i buy apps from google play.. but ads? no way..

A little off topic here but Rom toolbox by JRummy has an adblocker, i wonder if Google will make him pull the app

I use avast... Dont know if it works, but being a windows user, i think im mentally ill, and insecure.
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carnage017 said:
I use avast... Dont know if it works, but being a windows user, i think im mentally ill, and insecure.
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hahahhaha, Awesome man, made my morning. :good:

ScumDroid said:
A little off topic here but Rom toolbox by JRummy has an adblocker, i wonder if Google will make him pull the app
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No, he's taking care of that before they pull it: https://twitter.com/jrummy16/status/312368614059692033

overhauling said:
No, he's taking care of that before they pull it: https://twitter.com/jrummy16/status/312368614059692033
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i guess i wont be updating rom toolbox anymore

ROM toolbox adblocker was never as good as AdAway anyway.
As far as apps like Lookout go, I'd never use an anti-bvirus scanenr etc. I use Cerberus in case I lose my phone so I can track/find or wipe it.

waste of RAM and space for antivirus apps... dont pirate apps and just download apps/games from the play store and you'll be fine.

Getting Rid Of Google Completely

Possible to free a ROM of everything Google? I have read a few articles but nothing really specific. I see Google as intrusive personally.
Edit: To clarify what I mean. Stop all the data mining,tracking,etc. That's pretty much it. I know its a Google is,and as such only so much could be removed but at least it would limit the intrusiveness. Not looking to go stealth,anonymous or some paranoid tin hat sh*t lol. Maybe a safe indy app store or even just side load, no syncing to any of googles crap whatsoever, no anything that allows Google to get my info. I figure my carrier is good enough in that area as far as tracking important data such as location for 911,etc.

If you delete your Google account from your phone, most apps will most likely act up, but that is one way to do it. I haven't tested, but since you brought it up i think I'm gonna give it a go right now

Lol moist..Sounds like a winner to me.

Was thinking of going all apkmania.com lol joke people...maybe juice it up with some yahoo love lol. Never mind..I guess Google just owns me at this point.

Seems like my android phone loves Google
Lol
Apps downloaded from the Google market just don't have good behavior with out being able to synch. I.e. xda premium that i use for staying up to date. Doesn't.

actually i took your advice and deleted my google account,play store,google services framework,google one time userinit,..EVERYTHING. rom still running great. im using yahoo mail with no geolocation services and using custom weather location in rom with all location except what you got to have on turned off and i actually have 162 mb free ram versus 129 before and can see a difference in battery life and speed of rom. all the bookmark sync,contacts sync..all of that garbage deleted from rom. i did it because in my own personal opinion its none of googles business who my contacts are,what my calendar appointments are,what websites i like to go to or anything else for that matter...sell me the damn phone..stay out of my life...thats the deal lol

I'm gonna do a fresh flash with slim ROM and test
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Tried it on stock/modified-by-me BTW

Weird... its awesomely working with slimbean!

I really like the convenience of google "knowing" my bookmarks and contacts cuz I know I couldn't keep up with all of that... but it seems you guys are on to something...?

Just make a copy of current contacts to sdcard im still trying to figure out the calendar delima

f-droid open source market has local calendar to create a local calendar in your phone
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you could install a rom without the gapps, pure aosp is completely free of google stuff

a cm. aokp doesn't give out your data to Google.. a rom doesn't in short..
it's the gapps which does it... if you're on a custom rom then don't flash gaaps all would be fine..
but on stock and you want to be secure you will need tp get rid of the libs and all the Google thing's...
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lilrob1213 said:
I really like the convenience of google "knowing" my bookmarks and contacts cuz I know I couldn't keep up with all of that... but it seems you guys are on to something...?
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Exactly, its not like google is a man who will terrorise you be because it knows your contacts names. Its just a computer system storing your data. Idk what's there to freak out
paarthdesai said:
a cm. aokp doesn't give out your data to Google.. a rom doesn't in short..
it's the gapps which does it... if you're on a custom rom then don't flash gaaps all would be fine..
but on stock and you want to be secure you will need tp get rid of the libs and all the Google thing's...
sent from my sexy Nexy
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This too. True.
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russellvone said:
Just make a copy of current contacts to sdcard im still trying to figure out the calendar delima
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this one has been an issue for me as well. i keep tons of appointments and none of the crap ive found really provide the two things i need in a good calendar. 1. a customizable full month widget 2. full featured agenda
google calendar is crap and doesnt even have a month widget,android pro widgets has a great month widget but its all heavily dependent on google calendar to work at all unless you are just using a month widget without any other use in it. and its bloated with crap widgets like facebook,etc..and i cant find a decent replacement any where on play store. think i will try f-droid.

Curtis1973 said:
this one has been an issue for me as well. i keep tons of appointments and none of the crap ive found really provide the two things i need in a good calendar. 1. a customizable full month widget 2. full featured agenda
google calendar is crap and doesnt even have a month widget,android pro widgets has a great month widget but its all heavily dependent on google calendar to work at all unless you are just using a month widget without any other use in it. and its bloated with crap widgets like facebook,etc..and i cant find a decent replacement any where on play store. think i will try f-droid.
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Did you try aCalendar - Android Calendar: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsIm9yZy53aXRob3V0aGF0LmFjYWxlbmRhciJd
Hope it helps! :fingers-crossed:

Using an app from google play store defeates the purpose lol

russellvone said:
Using an app from google play store defeates the purpose lol
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It's just to see what it is and what it does...
You can get it here:http://www.tapirapps.de/en/index.html or from many other sources if you google it...

Does anyone have the Google Maps .apk from BEFORE they updated the layout?

The new Maps is very buggy and missing a lot of features i use. (not talkin about Latitude. i don't use that)
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Maps (old layout) 6.14.4
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pjsv96

Lieu10ant said:
The new Maps is very buggy and missing a lot of features i use. (not talkin about Latitude. i don't use that)
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I dont have it off hand, but just download any rom older than a few weeks and extract it from system/app. Just make sure the play store isnt set to auto update your apps though

i've been running liquid smooth and it didn't come with maps apk in the rom, I had always downloaded it from the play store...
I would really like the apk for maps as well

Go to team blackout's website. They have an inverted version.
[email protected]'$ [email protected]@XY

Or just Google "Google maps apk" I'm sure an older version will show up.
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Is the new one THAT bad? What do y'all think?
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I've got a pretty recent one. I'll try to remember to post it when I get home.
A lot of people have had several issues with this latest update. Google was forced to revert at least one change within a couple days of its release.
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Maps 6.14.3
Here you go. Google Maps 6.14.3. Pulled from the latest T999V update released a week or so ago. Extract it first!

Lieu10ant said:
The new Maps is very buggy and missing a lot of features i use. (not talkin about Latitude. i don't use that)
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Agree bro..
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Just go in to settings> application manager> all tab> Google maps then uninstall update
So simple...
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yeah. that option isn't available on my phone.
my sister hated the new update, but the "uninstall updates" WAS available on her phone. wonder why it's not avail on my phone.
but anyways, thank you SO MUCH for the link!
most roms don't come with google based apps, they all use the "gapps"

Edit: found a newer version. i think this was the most recent version before the new layout
6.14.4
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pjsv96
oh how beautiful the UI looks. thank god i have it back.

Fyi guys, someone around here said google released another update that fixed a lot of issues people had. Cant remember who or where, but figured I'd mention it.
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I uninstalled it completely ..and refused the update. The new update was very buggy and seem to constantly send data back . But just the fact that a force feed us this version pissed me off . One of there main things Google did was removing Latitude (as of Aug. 1st ) . Which I used a lot to keep track of my kids and family, the technology is still there but can only be used on Google Hangout (very buggy). But who really knows why it is they do this things like this...Just buggy.

I have just reverted it on the desktop as well, such a relieve to have the old stuff back.... at least while they let us.
I came looking here to revert the phone apk (blackout is the easy way and awesome). Google messed up sooo bad on this one. Like I search for a chain, and it shows me them one at a time with me having to swipe through them (in seemingly random order as some are up to 40mi away sandwiched in between others that are 2-4mi away, and the one that is only 0.7mi away is 10 swipes away). The old maps just shows you a map with YOU in the center and pins for the 10 results closest to you. When I am "on-the-go" why would I want to instead have the map of the first result you choose at random, which may or may not include my location, and then have to swipe through results while I mentally figure out where each one is in relation to me??? It is just ludicrous! The new maps may be great for casual browsing at home, but I use maps for location-based productivity, there are plenty of other apps for Where should I go / eat / buy. Make the new Maps for tablets and leave my phone and desktop Maps alone (or make them more productive, not less!!!)
Other examples of failure:
- I tell it to navigate somewhere and it shows me a full screen route-list, even if there is only one. Then, after I select that route I want, it shows me that route and I have to click Go before the navigation actually begins. The old version: I instantly get navigation and can choose alternate routes if I want. The new version is dangerous to use while driving. The old one is 100% hands free. WTF Google?
- You used to be able to use Google Now to say "Map of ..." or "Navigate to ..." which does not work correctly anymore.

Have you reported all of this to google?
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DocHoliday77 said:
Have you reported all of this to google?
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Yes, through multiple different PCs/Apps. I just did a survey they sent to me for switching from New to Old on Desktop.

Cool, hopefully enough people will complain and they will fix it.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Cool, hopefully enough people will complain and they will fix it.
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I'd like to see that, but I doubt it. Likely they'll look at us and ask why we havn't updated our phones.
Really wanted to thank the folks on here who pulled the APK, Maps 7 just doesn't work at all on my EVO 3D, it flickers, the prompts are scrambled, it can only function in landscape mode... this is on top of the, slower, feature hidden, beauty update nonsense. So thanks again.
Dogan
I've played beta games with less bugs than this ****e.

I have the old Maps, and I've tried multiple copies of Google Now, but still when I say "Navigate to Target" it shows me Google results for that search instead of opening Navigation and auto routing to the nearest Target.
I really, really miss "Map of [...]" and "Navigate to [...]". I want to be able to do this from google now which is always one button away, not have to open the map program first, click search, then click mic, then say "Target", then click the nearest one, then click navigate. (at least it is not 4 more steps anymore like it was with the new maps)
Please, can someone figure out how to get this simple command working as it used to?
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Edit: Nevermind I guess... mine just started working again. I complained here and in one other thread, then I tried "Navigate to Texas" as I was going to post a screen shot of how that same search that worked for another didn't work for me, and to my surprise it worked. Now it is working every time just how it used to. Very strange. I swear it was not working for me from like 2 months ago until 30min ago. I'm just glad it is back.

Get rid of freakin GOOGLE PLAY SERVICES

Let me make this clear, this thread is not about getting rid of Google services but google play services....
Being a GNEX user we have cherished so many updates from 4.0.1 to 4.4.4, courtesy of some gr8 devs and teams. Every update gave us the courage to give a sarcastic look at some of the flagships still lagging behing, but deep down inside every power GNEX user knew that those updates aren't making the phone better simply bcoz its not designed for it.It all started with the arrival of brutal "Google Play Services".
TBH we all got scroogled however we are not ashamed of it coz if a service is good then there is no point in not using it, but the experience we get across different devices creates a different opinion about the entire service and thats what happened with play services..
Taking google play services out of ur phone gives u hell a lot of advantage but the right alternatives. I decided to take it out of my GNEX and now i am one of the Happiest men on the planet who uses open source apps wherever possible.
I am about to list the alternatives i used and the experience i got....
I am a LiquidSmooth or Vanir user combined with the dirtyness of DirtyV kernel, F2FS, ART, xlouder patch...
Market : Since i dont flash Gapps no Play Store but FDROID is gr8, clean and simple. For apps unavailable at FDROID i use APKLEECHER
Browser : Of course Firefox and Lightning browser both available in FDROID. I use firefox for some impt. stuffs like mobile banking, etc and lightning browser for daily browsing that includes social networks fb, g+.
Music Player : Ur choice but i am a huge lover of Noozy. :angel:
Video Player :VLC available at FDROID :highfive:
Office Apps : Office Mobile, Microsoft does a gr8 job there.
Email Client : AOSP or K-9 mail available at FDROID
Proxy : Obviously Orbot by Guardian Projects available at FDROID
IM Clients : It was easy for me since most of my friends dont use Hangouts but whatsapp...pls for the sweet love of god please try Telegram available at FDROID. It got encryption too and open source. I am working on migrating my friends to Telegram. Also i do use ChatSecure available at FDROID for my gtalk and facebook accounts chat... :fingers-crossed:
Now comes the most impt part,
Cloud,Contacts and Cal Syncs : This is the hardest part u can come across, i had my solution OWNCLOUD
i have a raspberry pi and i turned it to an OWNCLOUD server, easiest way is to Check out ARKOS if u have a rpi or beaglebone black. With that OWNCLOUD i can instantly upload photos, videos just like g+ and also using an app DAVDROID at FDROID u can sync ur calender and contacts to ur Mobile. :good:
Maps : I use OsmAnd which is an ON/Offline maps app where u can download data to ur phone. Its pretty decent for finding directions but dont expect the sophistications of GMAPS, btw i m happy with OSMAND but at some situations i do use maps.google.com at firefox. :victory:
Youtube : Viral Lite downloaded with apkleecher.com...much better than Youtube. :cyclops:
Search : DuckDuckGo available at FDROID. Google Now will be one huge feature u got to sacrifice
Any free apps can be downloaded from apkleecher.com.
Btw regarding the updates : FDROID apps can be updated easily but others, yeah i know thats pain in the ass but thats a sacrifice you got to make to get rid of play services.
After these things i got a fluid phone with extra 45mins of SOT on maguro..
THE DRAWBACKS : In the recently concluded GOOGLE I/O, google nailed the fragmentation issue by announcing that from now on all security patches will reach via Google play services which enables to secure even 2.3 devices.
However those updates will definitely added to the AOSP branch which our beloved DEVS will make use of
please comment if u have any ques and try getting rid of play services and have fun......

Thanks for sharing this info. I'm going to follow your instructions. I'd like to see a "new system" by replacing all the pieces

pvkiniyan95 said:
....but deep down inside every power GNEX user knew that those updates aren't making the phone better simply bcoz its not designed for it. It all started with the arrival of brutal "Google Play Services"....
....After these things i got a fluid phone with extra 45mins of SOT on maguro....
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Can you please explain in detail how exactly "those updates" aren't better?
Also would like more detail on what "fluid phone" means?
If your getting an extra 45 mins SOT, then what are the other details?
-Total SOT
-Total time between charging 100%-4%
-background data updates
-push email on/off
-BT/Wi-Fi/NFC on/off
-brightness level/auto
-type of usage pattern #/%'s for texts/calls/gaming/browsing
Eg.
I'm running an 18 month old PA2.57 4.1.2 ROM, w/Zen kernel.
Nova homescreen weather/stock widgets auto update every 30 mins.
Auto app updates over data only, got unlimited plan so never use Wi-Fi.
Auto brightness on.
BT always on since it connects to car everyday streaming audio/calls for 30 mins.
Max. 2h SOT
Time between full charge 8-9h's.
Couple of texts/calls(max 10 daily)
25% gaming
75% browsing
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Thanks a lot for this man, so should we just delete phonesky apk from the zip and contacts and calendar sync and then just install fdroid and move on?
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I haven't been using gapps for a long while (I actually removed everything associated with google, except maps), and my battery life has improved dramatically. For anyone (like me) who really misses the play store, there's a great alternative, which has most of the apps from there and has a built-in updater, so your google play apps will be detected and updated. Here it is

isajoo said:
pvkiniyan95 said:
....but deep down inside every power GNEX user knew that those updates aren't making the phone better simply bcoz its not designed for it. It all started with the arrival of brutal "Google Play Services"....
....After these things i got a fluid phone with extra 45mins of SOT on maguro....
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Can you please explain in detail how exactly "those updates" aren't better?
Also would like more detail on what "fluid phone" means?
If your getting an extra 45 mins SOT, then what are the other details?
-Total SOT
-Total time between charging 100%-4%
-background data updates
-push email on/off
-BT/Wi-Fi/NFC on/off
-brightness level/auto
-type of usage pattern #/%'s for texts/calls/gaming/browsing
Eg.
I'm running an 18 month old PA2.57 4.1.2 ROM, w/Zen kernel.
Nova homescreen weather/stock widgets auto update every 30 mins.
Auto app updates over data only, got unlimited plan so never use Wi-Fi.
Auto brightness on.
BT always on since it connects to car everyday streaming audio/calls for 30 mins.
Max. 2h SOT
Time between full charge 8-9h's.
Couple of texts/calls(max 10 daily)
25% gaming
75% browsing
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TBH if u r using 18 month old rom then probably u r in a wrong place.
Sorry...
May be I can answer a few ques
If u have experienced KitKat on gnex then u would probably know about "those updates" "fluidity"
I m running Liquid smooth 3.1 and
WiFi always on and ocassional 3g (10 mins),NFC off, BT when needed, Location when needed, Sync always on, little phone calls like 15 mins, brightness I'll adjust manually always, I don't play games at all but I browse hell a lot, music 30mins, time between charges 10h and sot 2hrs max,
After those things now time between full charges even last a day and sot is 3hr
Edgarngg said:
Thanks a lot for this man, so should we just delete phonesky apk from the zip and contacts and calendar sync and then just install fdroid and move on?
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After flashing a rom don't flash gapps, install fdroid and u r good to go.....BTW I m talking only about KitKat ROMs...
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pvkiniyan95 said:
isajoo said:
TBH if u r using 18 month old rom then probably u r in a wrong place.
Sorry...
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Is that really all you took from my post?
I've tested every single ROM and the ONLY one that runs "fluid" like for me WITH Google services is the 18 month old ROM.
LOL
Now could you try and answer my question, w/details?
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latenightchameleon said:
I haven't been using gapps for a long while (I actually removed everything associated with google, except maps), and my battery life has improved dramatically. For anyone (like me) who really misses the play store, there's a great alternative, which has most of the apps from there and has a built-in updater, so your google play apps will be detected and updated. Here it is
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There are lot of 3rd party stores like appbrain, 1mibile market as u mentioned, I tried it recently it's gud but there are few security issues when u use them. As I mentioned security patches are about to be sent through GPS, without them I won't trust any 3rd party app store except FDROID....BTW we r free to choose and I got to admit that 1mobile is pretty but I felt the laginess after few days, during app installs phone lagged heavily just like in play store..
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pvkiniyan95 said:
Is that really all you took from my post?
I've tested every single ROM and the ONLY one that runs "fluid" like for me WITH Google services is the 18 month old ROM.
LOL
Now could you try and answer my question, w/details?
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Post edited, check it, hope I answered ur ques
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pvkiniyan95 said:
There are lot of 3rd party stores like appbrain, 1mibile market as u mentioned, I tried it recently it's gud but there are few security issues when u use them. As I mentioned security patches are about to be sent through GPS, without them I won't trust any 3rd party app store except FDROID....BTW we r free to choose and I got to admit that 1mobile is pretty but I felt the laginess after few days, during app installs phone lagged heavily just like in play store..
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Well, unlike the play store I can at least greenify 1mobile to prevent drain:good:
Anything is better than gapps

latenightchameleon said:
Well, unlike the play store I can at least greenify 1mobile to prevent drain:good:
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Yeah u could, If u are nightly flasher u r gud to go
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@pvkiniyan95 Buddy, I've been wanting to do this for so so long. Read a lot about it, but read that some games and apps need google services to work. I got a lot of games on my device, for my son. Did you encounter any app that wouldnt work?
Also, I've got a couple dedicated servers to my disposal. Can they be used to create my owncloud service?
I really am all geared up to do this.

Hetalk said:
@pvkiniyan95 Buddy, I've been wanting to do this for so so long. Read a lot about it, but read that some games and apps need google services to work. I got a lot of games on my device, for my son. Did you encounter any app that wouldnt work?
Also, I've got a couple dedicated servers to my disposal. Can they be used to create my owncloud service?
I really am all geared up to do this.
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honestly i dont play games at all in my gnex besides afaik Games dont depend upon google play services completely, they are just optional to store scores on cloud, i think games might work. Regarding owncloud, yes u could if u have a domain to, head over to owncloud.org and they have a good guide over there....:fingers-crossed:

Thanks for this!

Telegram is really fast and has no delay since it doesn't depend on Google cloud server. But on 1mobile there's a newer version of it. I guess that one drains more battery that the old one at fdroid. I really love it I think I'll tell my friends to migrate. But which version of it is better. It's kind of conflicting having fdroid and 1mobile at the same time
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Telegram is really fast and has no delay since it doesn't depend on Google cloud server. But on 1mobile there's a newer version of it. I guess that one drains more battery that the old one at fdroid. I really love it I think I'll tell my friends to migrate. But which version of it is better. It's kind of conflicting having fdroid and 1mobile at the same time
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I don't trust 1mobile, I'll suggest to go with fdroid one
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pvkiniyan95 said:
I don't trust 1mobile, I'll suggest to go with fdroid one
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In terms of security overall? So updating one by one checking on apkleecher would be the only option? Because fdroid only detects some of the apps. My battery has improved though, so I think I might not go back to Google services maybe until I get a new phone with larger battery. And even then I'll give it a second thought
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Edgarngg said:
In terms of security overall? So updating one by one checking on apkleecher would be the only option? Because fdroid only detects some of the apps. My battery has improved though, so I think I might not go back to Google services maybe until I get a new phone with larger battery. And even then I'll give it a second thought
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I am mostly trying to move to open source apps, also u can use the apps without updating as long as we want coz they will be stable and work well...nowadays most of the apps notify u when there is an update, spend a few mins in the weekend to update them...technically I felt 1mobile is just another Google play service coz they all work with Google analytics ads etc etc etc....choice is urs
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I didn't know there were that many people who didn't like running gapps. I don't really have any issue using gapps and google play, but it's nice to know there are other options out there. Thanks for sharing this.

Is not that we don't like them. Is what they do to our battery what we don't like.
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I haven't been able to sync my contacts to owncloud. Can you point me to a good tutorial on how to do that. Also jabber account. It's all new to me
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