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Running CM10.1 Quattrimus B4, with WIND Kernel 1.2 and CrossBreeder flashed. Running SnapDragon BatteryGuru + Green Power Premium.
syahirashri said:
Running CM10.1 Quattrimus B4, with WIND Kernel 1.2 and CrossBreeder flashed. Running SnapDragon BatteryGuru + Green Power Premium.
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Extended or stock battery?
mattman86 said:
Extended or stock battery?
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stock
syahirashri said:
stock
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Wow! That's impressive. I may have to try out your configuration there.
hmm, looks impossible as for me.
7-10 hours with 10.1 - as much.
now on miui.. but mb we are using our devices differently)
whats the screen on time?
arda99 said:
whats the screen on time?
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This.
Any phone can idle away for hours in a pocket...
Exactly, I've gone over two days when I didn't touch my phone
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mattman86 said:
Wow! That's impressive. I may have to try out your configuration there.
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i get better battery life using your rom bro
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my battery stats are posted at this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980541&page=23
1d 12h 34m on a battery light to moderate usage. flip to page 23 to see the screenshots
EDIT: note that my screen time is FAR higher than the guy who posted this, mine is 20% of the battery his is 7% that means i had 3x the screen time.
arda99 said:
whats the screen on time?
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not sure but its medium usage, checking messages, on play store, facebook, twitter, browser, etc.
KronicSkillz said:
i get better battery life using your rom bro
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my battery stats are posted at this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980541&page=23
1d 12h 34m on a battery light to moderate usage. flip to page 23 to see the screenshots
EDIT: note that my screen time is FAR higher than the guy who posted this, mine is 20% of the battery his is 7% that means i had 3x the screen time.
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lol this wasn't a contest.
syahirashri said:
not sure but its medium usage, checking messages, on play store, facebook, twitter, browser, etc.
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that is complete bull your screen usage is only 7% that is not even light usage don't lie please it doesn't help anyone
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syahirashri said:
lol this wasn't a contest.
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no it's not a contest, but that doesn't explain why you're lying
because its not a contest should i let you mislead people into copying your setup when your blatently lying through your teeth?
who does that help other than your ego
unless maybe you enjoy wasting people's time, who will try to copy your setup after you tell them it's medium use. then they can't figure out why they can't get the same battery life only to eventually realize u were full of it. only to waste hours of other people's valuable time
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7% screen usage is probably like 15-20 min of screen time over a day, how is that medium usage, please explain, either that or you have your brightness on 1 and are using your phone in the dark. either way its extremely misleading i don't see what you gain from any of this.
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syahirashri said:
not sure but its medium usage, checking messages, on play store, facebook, twitter, browser, etc.
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can you please explain to everyone the miracle of having medium usage when your screen and wifi are taking the same amount of battery consumption.
lmao rofl lololol
the graph on yours also says a lot, there are is not a single period where your battery drops off, this means your screen was not on for more than a few seconds at a time, you might think you can post battery stats and then lie about how you got them, but numbers and graphs don't lie, they say more than you think. the fact is the stats you posted are not even remotely good, and you lied about them to make them seem good. i'm going to try to run a cycle with similar usage to yours, i bet dollars to donuts that with 0 battery saving applications running on my phone i get 10 hours more than you at 30%, ill post it but it'll take a day or a few depending on if i can manage to leave my phone in standby that long rofl
and i'm not trying to win a contest i'm trying to actually help people who want to extend their battery life, not send them on a fools errand to install an unstable release of a rom that isn't even known for it's battery life. furthermore when i was trying to get more life out of my phone i ran into too many people that gave me horrible advice and wasted my time, i don't want to do that to other people. i've had this phone since it was released in canada, i've tried aftermarket batteries, battery saving apps, and listening to too many ppl who lie, only to learn how to properly read battery stat posts and that most if not all battery saving apps actually use more battery then they save by constantly polling the phone for information.
the real way to get more out of your battery is making sure your battery is working properly (calibrated and hasn't received any heat dmg)
running a bloat free rom and monitoring any extra apps to make sure they aren't waking up your phone when they shouldn't be or using more battery life then they should be to perform the task you got the app for. part of this is understanding which of the phones services you will never use, and removing system apps which are unneeded (using proper backup procedures and researching which apps can be safely removed)
running an efficient kernel.
using common sense when setting the multitude of customizable settings in apps and system of any android phone. things like setting email to sync realtime push or every minute, instead of every 10 minutes. (realtime push consumes about 30-50 times more battery then 10 minute sync)
using a reasonable brightness setting. The screen on this phone is amazing and is one of the features of the phone, but not only can this kill the battery fast when set too bright, the highest brightness settings are never needed unless in direct sunlight or a really bright day.
voltages / overclocking / underclocking while these settings often can help or hinder battery life, it's important to keep in mind what the phone is like stock. this cpu is fast duel core but already runs warmer than most, so although you can get more speed from overclocking i think most people don't need the speed, (talking about this phone in particular) but many do it anyways because people like to say my phone is overclocked. underclocking can be a battery saver and doesn't produce the same potential overheating risks. (an important note is that while overclocking might not do immediate damage to a cpu it can still limit the lifespan of the cpu if it is always running hotter that it should be. undervolting can help a little with battery life but some say can cause instability, i don't know enough about it to have an informed decision, but personally i don't worry too much about these. i'm running whatever the default settings are on mattmans liquidnitroV6
mobile data setting
especially for someone who doesn't use data often, or doesn't require larger amounts of data when using it, reducing this settings to 3G is a good option for saving battery, especialy if your phone is set to constantly look for an LTE connection when you don't live near an LTE network (i've heard rumors this is really bad for battery but haven't personally tested it to verify) for me, i leave my phone on gsm/cdma with cmda prefered. i never turn LTE on unless i'm in an LTE area and i want to watch streaming videos or something.
if you have a battery saver app that shows up on battery usage higher than 5%,uninstall it, personally i would say uninstall all of them, but i haven't tried all of them so i'm not going to pretend i know that every one of them is bad, but i've seen people that think a battery saving app is doing them a favor when it's pulling 10-20% of their battery life, i think i already mentioned this but it's the one that blows my mind the most.
I guess I'll post mine tonight when it dies, though my battery life seems to have gotten worse lately.
At this moment I am at 82% with it being off the charger for 3h25m. Screen-on time 26min. Some browsing & email along with some phone calls.
At that rate I should get 19hrs of normal use... BUT in order to get that I am running Green Power Premium, CPU Sleeper, Greenify and I used BuildProp Editor to make a few tweaks (see below). So, it is hardly running optimally.
This is with the CM10.1 2-21-13 nightly build and Wind 1.3 kernel. Governor = conservative, CPU set at 192/1728. I am running an eBay "2010mah" battery, but I honestly doubt it has much more capacity than the stock unit.
The build.prop tweaks I added:
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=1
pm.sleep_mode=1
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=180
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KronicSkillz said:
if you have a battery saver app that shows up on battery usage higher than 5%,uninstall it, personally i would say uninstall all of them, but i haven't tried all of them so i'm not going to pretend i know that every one of them is bad, but i've seen people that think a battery saving app is doing them a favor when it's pulling 10-20% of their battery life, i think i already mentioned this but it's the one that blows my mind the most.
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I would agree with this statement on some of my previous devices, however this phone seems to be horribly inefficient at radio communications, especially with CM10/CM10.1. I don't know if it's my firmware or what. I've been running the latest v20 from that thread with the compilations. I get dramatic increases in battery life using GPP or JDU, because the data radio seems to suck down power like a fatty with a Big Gulp.
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OK, I'll bite.
Is it really necessary to call him a liar? Or call him about his ego? All for a 7% screen time. I don't get it.
Perhaps the purpose of this thread is, maybe, compare the stats using all other ROMS. If the one you are using has better battery up time, then, good for you. If you have one to share, post it. No arguments necessary.
Post it here if you want to give some battery saving tips, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781762
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OK, I'll bite.
Is it really necessary to call him a liar? Or call him about his ego? All for a 7% screen time. I don't get it.
Perhaps the purpose of this thread is, maybe, compare the stats using all other ROMS. If the one you are using has better battery up time, then, good for you. If you have one to share, post it. No arguments necessary.
Post it here if you want to give some battery saving tips, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781762
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THIS! Jeez, this thread is meant for sharing, that's all I intended.
Just discovered a bug in my current install of CM10.1... I lost the ability to snap screenshots... weird. I need to wipe/reflash anyway so no big deal.
Before I wipe, here are my stats from today's fairly steady use:
24% remaining; 9hr 21m on battery
Top 5 battery consumers:
25% - Voice Calls
22% - Screen
13% - Chrome
10% - Android OS
8% - Wifi
Screen on time: 1hr 33m 52s
Call time: 27m
Voice calls certainly plow through battery! Any way to reduce that?
here is an example of what i mean
KronicSkillz said:
here is an example of what i mean
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see how if i sleep my phone as much as you, i get 12 hours out of 1/5th of my battery, that is like 100 hours on standby, if i did what you did at let it drain to 30% on 7-9% screen usage it would take 2-3 days for me to get there, all i was saying if your so keen on sharing and such, you would have been honest and said it was light usage, i was gonna let mine drain to 30% like this but i can't even stand not using my phone this much.
my frustration was because you seemed to be purposely misleading people
sorry not 100 hours around 60 is more accurate <-- edit
mpsantiago said:
Just discovered a bug in my current install of CM10.1... I lost the ability to snap screenshots... weird. I need to wipe/reflash anyway so no big deal.
Before I wipe, here are my stats from today's fairly steady use:
24% remaining; 9hr 21m on battery
Top 5 battery consumers:
25% - Voice Calls
22% - Screen
13% - Chrome
10% - Android OS
8% - Wifi
Screen on time: 1hr 33m 52s
Call time: 27m
Voice calls certainly plow through battery! Any way to reduce that?
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If you select 2g only that should reduce your in-call battery usage.
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Lately, I noticed my battery has been dying much faster than normal. I got the phone maybe like 3 weeks ago, and it was lasting longer. I'm not sure if it's some app I downloaded or just the bad radios in 4.0.2 causing me to keep searching for signal, but it's definitely impacted how much I use my phone.
Anyone know what's going on? Or if theres some known issue with this?
Attached are some pictures of the running applications and the battery charts.
8.5hrs with 31% is pretty good to me.
You should look at my battery, 5hrs down to 16% (I have all active sync disabled, turned of 4G AND screen brightness only at like 5% for the entire time.)
*sigh*
If you look that is almost all standby time, which should be lasting way longer.
That's not horrible but you should look into what's waking up your phone so often.
Whats your screen-on time there? It looks like its really low.
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MilkPudding said:
8.5hrs with 31% is pretty good to me.
You should look at my battery, 5hrs down to 16% (I have all active sync disabled, turned of 4G AND screen brightness only at like 5% for the entire time.)
*sigh*
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You have a major hardware or software issue. That is not normal.
martonikaj said:
That's not horrible but you should look into what's waking up your phone so often.
Whats your screen-on time there? It looks like its really low.
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It was at about 25 minutes of screen-on, but the keep-awake on the android OS was an hour. Could this be the culprit?
jadesocket said:
It was at about 25 minutes of screen-on, but the keep-awake on the android OS was an hour. Could this be the culprit?
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Well look at your "awake" bar. Something is consistently waking the phone. Just syncing email etc wouldn't keep it awake that long. Its another app.
Use something like "BetterBatteryStats" to monitor microscopically whats waking the device.
Thanks, I'll use that app and post results.
Another thing is I looked at the cell standby, and it told me that 25% of the time it did not have signal. Could searching for signal cause the intense battery usage?
jadesocket said:
Thanks, I'll use that app and post results.
Another thing is I looked at the cell standby, and it told me that 25% of the time it did not have signal. Could searching for signal cause the intense battery usage?
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yes, absolutely
90% of battery problems are either user installed app or radio related so far on the nexus thread
jadesocket said:
Thanks, I'll use that app and post results.
Another thing is I looked at the cell standby, and it told me that 25% of the time it did not have signal. Could searching for signal cause the intense battery usage?
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Looks like you had some times of bad signal based on your screenshots, but not the entire time.
Bottom line your phone should be idling much better than that. Granted I'm on GSM and not LTE, but when I turn off my screen and let it idle (i.e. forget to plug it in over night) the graph is almost flat. It will idle forever. Yours is not seeming to do that.
reboot..
I reboot my phone twice a week. It works really good.
Battery after a reboot and 9 hours standby. 96%
Without a reboot 70%
Big difference..
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martonikaj said:
That's not horrible but you should look into what's waking up your phone so often.
Whats your screen-on time there? It looks like its really low.
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You have a major hardware or software issue. That is not normal.
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After much testing, I found out the anti-theft feature in Avast! is causing the massive battery drain. It prevents the phone from going to sleep.
Ow that sucks well out with that app, I use avg very good. Also I get an average battery usage of 3hours screen on time.
That's with most syncs on also wifi and GPS are always on.
Usually its bad apps that can't handle ics
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I'm also using Avast but I think my awake pattern fairly falls in line with the screen on pattern. Twice out of the 2 months I've owned my nexus the battery has drained really fast - normally I will get about 28 hours. Any ideas?
I have always felt that stock has offered the best battery life in both standby and active. I re installed 100% stock rooted with this method (thanks reddevil) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052321. I also installed the LG Optimus fast dormancy tool that I found on another XDA forum and can be downloaded here: https://drive.google.com/fe/m?gsessionid=WZD8FPkXXWpJWcFV3xyoCg# and this is what I acheived:
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Swetnes said:
I have always felt that stock has offered the best battery life in both standby and active. I re installed 100% stock rooted with this method (thanks reddevil) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052321. I also installed the LG Optimus fast dormancy tool that I found on another XDA forum and can be downloaded here: https://drive.google.com/fe/m?gsessionid=WZD8FPkXXWpJWcFV3xyoCg# and this is what I acheived:
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Which battery are you using? Stock or extended?
mattman86 said:
Which battery are you using? Stock or extended?
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Stock... Sweet huh? I found that by disabling fast dormancy it makes a huge difference in standby battery drain. Unfortunately it only works on stock (all versions). Without it the internal timer is always waking up the phone to check on network status which really isn't needed. I also have gotten away from using the hi-cap so on could use cases
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How much screen time?
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Cam R said:
How much screen time?
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I actually didn't look maybe a little less than an hour. Did surf for a while and paid some bills a few phone calls and the flat spot on the graph was over night so it would say very light use. I usually use my phone a lot more but forgot my charger at work so I was deliberately used it conservatively. The dashes below the graph are the wake times.
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I'm getting pretty much the same with data turned off (sync for 5 mins only every hour) and not using the phone (2-3 % discharge per hour).
But the thing is, when i actually use the phone (screen, web browsing) it discharges like 30-40% per hour (non-stop use). I feel this is wrong, is it?
Fast dormancy fix applied.
burma said:
I'm getting pretty much the same with data turned off (sync for 5 mins only every hour) and not using the phone (2-3 % discharge per hour).
But the thing is, when i actually use the phone (screen, web browsing) it discharges like 30-40% per hour (non-stop use). I feel this is wrong, is it?
Fast dormancy fix applied.
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We have almost no adjustments that can be made with screen on. Maybe some tweaking here or there. My biggest concern was power drain with screen off. I set out on this quest when I first got the phone in May and it had Gingerbread and I was draining like 5% / hr with the screen off. CM9 was better but horrible with screen on. I found stock to be the best balance but until I found this FD app it was still draining 1-2% per hour now it's like every 2 - 3 hrs. To get back to your question.... Is it normal? Well yes and maybe it really depends on what you are doing.. Surfing the Web... Not so much. Talking on the phone.... Playing games, etc heck yes that is normal. Try adjusting screen brightness and also an app like juice defender that can dynamically adjust cpu & screen.
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dude if 24% of ur battery is standby that means you didn't use the phone... i can get 24h on standby too, and i don't run juice defender etc...
KronicSkillz said:
dude if 24% of ur battery is standby that means you didn't use the phone... i can get 24h on standby too, and i don't run juice defender etc...
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You are missing the whole point of my posting. I was promoting the capability to improve the Nitro's battery life while in standby. We Nitro users can get all the battery life we can get and it is up to you if you want to reduce stand by battery usage by over 50% by using this FD toggle app. I would suggest trying this app for 2 days and use your phone like you normally do then two days without it and see for yourself if you have better battery life. Just a heads up with the app DISABLE must be selected for it to work. Pay special attention to Android System power usage vs Cell Standby power usage. If Android System is more than Cell Standby you will have greater power usage with screen off.
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my point was i get better battery life than that with no battery saver and no fast dormant tool, i use liquid nitro v6 and callibrate my battery every other week, right now this is what my usage reads.
35% battery remaining.
Usage
36% screen
18% standby
13% android os
8% phone idle
7% android system
5% media server
5% wifi
4% voice calls
3% bluetooth
2% power amp
2% google chrome
Time 1D 0H 55M 45s On battery (still35% remaining)
this battery will still last another 10 hours, total usage will be around 36 hours and i used LESS standby/idle time than you, hense i'm getting far more out of my battery with less mods. im running V20c liquid nitro V6 wind kenerl v3.0 with NO BATTERY APPS (battery apps usually consume as much energy as they save sometims more sometimes less depending on system environment) the stock battery saver on this phone doesn't even turn on until 30% battery so mine hasn't turned on yet, but all it does is disable whatever services u want once phone reaches 30%. if you want to get more out of your battery, just run an efficient rom, calibrate battery properly (ask me if u need info) and be smart with what apps you install.
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i'm gonna let the battery run under 5% then take a screenshot
The FD tool actually doesn't stay resident it initiates a script that starts at boot but I would be interested in the other tools you have used as it might also work on other OS's as I am playing with 10.1 right now. One word of caution I have been told by devs on this site that battery calibration does more harm than good. Also I haven't been able to run v6 phone keeps rebooting
One more thing what battery are you using and what was your on screen time? Well I guess that's two
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One word of caution I have been told by devs on this site that battery calibration does more harm than good.
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Yeah these batteries don't like to go all the way to zero. I've owned 9 android devices and have tinkered a lot- the conclusion I've drawn is that you get a nice placebo effect from "calibrating" the battery.
i tested 3 batteries, their life on standby and running video from 100% to 0% and all 3 batteries had better life after calibration, in every test. call me crazy but it seems to work. the only explination i can come up with is that people don't do it properly. i got my battery wipe procedure from this page: i did exactly what he said to calibrate my battery i tested 3 differant batteries and it helped all 3 one of them got 15% more life on video playback and 35% more on stanby after calibration.
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacking-guides/14714-how-optimize-battery-life-speed.html
step 3 is battery calibration. EDIT -> this step is found under section 2b Operation System.
note: i am not agreeing with everything on this thread i'm just saying that i tested batteries after using those steps for calibration and they all performed better after.
side note: it would be interesting to test what the battery lifes would be if i was to wipe the battery stats in CWM whent he battery was 50% charge. then let randomly charge it without doing the proper full discharge and recharge, and see if that ruins that battery life. i suspect that it would, and this is why people think it harms the battery, im not an expert this is just an assumption. my testing was not extensive enough to prove this only to prove that the batteries i was using had better life on the roms i tested them on in both video and standby after calibration.
few things i want to point out.
i used my phone more (less standby and more screen usage)
i got longer battery life.
i didn't waste 7% of my battery on juice defender
i used more apps and media tools.
i'm using stock battery and my rom is linked in sig
i had wi-fi or data on 24/7 sometimes both
stock battery.
as i respect other peoples opinions my science background leads me to lead towards strong evidence until i see stronger evidence supporting another theory.
here is battery at 7%
*edit* for the purpose of this test i turned off the stock battery saver (the thing that turns off wifi etc under 30%) at 32% so it never even came on
just fully charged it last night, play a bit, battery was at 90% when i went to bed, wifi was on, i even had the juice defender installed.
when i got up this morning (6 hr sleep), the battery has 50% left! when i check the battery usage, Cellular Network is the one used battery most, says 30%, then Phone idle came second with 25%. is that normal? ( I don't think so...) even the phone in idle mode it used that much battery? and even i don't have a SIM card in the phone, the Cellular Network still consuming battery?
Sounds like it was searching for the network all night. I would hope it'd be smart enough to just stop, but apparently not! I'm sure it'd sleep like a baby in airplane mode.
crisahan said:
just fully charged it last night, play a bit, battery was at 90% when i went to bed, wifi was on, i even had the juice defender installed.
when i got up this morning (6 hr sleep), the battery has 50% left! when i check the battery usage, Cellular Network is the one used battery most, says 30%, then Phone idle came second with 25%. is that normal? ( I don't think so...) even the phone in idle mode it used that much battery? and even i don't have a SIM card in the phone, the Cellular Network still consuming battery?
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If the radio is on it'll consume power - and with no SIM card inserted, unless you enter airplane mode, it'll leave the radio on for emergency calls.
Might even consume MORE power in that configuration. I've noticed that Qualcomm devices often behave badly in terms of power consumption when they don't have a SIM.
Yep, way more. I work in AK and you often leave coverage, do so without going in to airplane and the battery will plummet as quickly as if you are on an active call because your phone is constantly searching for a network. Some phone will search for a while and then take a break and resume after a set interval. These are not as bad but you're still way ahead of the game going to airplane until you get in coverage.
Some people are not aware that you can go into airplane and then turn on WiFi after.
Anyone else have OppoKinectService.apk show up as a major contributor towards battery drain? When I look at my battery consumption history its always between 30%-40%. Does anyone know what that app does or controls?
Isn't that the service which controls the off screen gestures?
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AngryHapposai said:
Isn't that the service which controls the off screen gestures?
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Not sure to be honest. I have all gestures turned off and yet I still have the drain. Only gesture I have enabled still is knock on/off. That can't account for that much drain. Unless they are still working out the kinks in color OS
You're either out our you're in because enabling one requires the phone to standby for a potential input every bit as much as enabling them all. You do benefit from killing the voice because the phone no longer has to keep a live mic going or use cycles trying to parse out whether you did or did not use the trigger phrase.
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Anyone else have OppoKinectService.apk show up as a major contributor towards battery drain? When I look at my battery consumption history its always between 30%-40%. Does anyone know what that app does or controls?
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Yes, I posted on the Oppo Google+ community yesterday on this very thing. My battery life is atrocious! I even reloaded the phone after a few days (to rule out an app). I have tried everything under the sun to improve the battery performance, even turning the LTE off and going with Edge service - made very little difference. I love the hardware, but this is ridiculous. I understand each phone has its nuance, but there is a limit. Thankfully, Oppo included an extra battery. Perhaps with this freebie, they acknowledge battery drain? Thankful for the rapid charger too. I hope a firmware release is on the way that will address the battery drain issues.
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You're either out our you're in because enabling one requires the phone to standby for a potential input every bit as much as enabling them all. You do benefit from killing the voice because the phone no longer has to keep a live mic going or use cycles trying to parse out whether you did or did not use the trigger phrase.
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I've done a hard reset and disables all gestures so will run it for a day and see.
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Yes, I posted on the Oppo Google+ community yesterday on this very thing. My battery life is atrocious! I even reloaded the phone after a few days (to rule out an app). I have tried everything under the sun to improve the battery performance, even turning the LTE off and going with Edge service - made very little difference. I love the hardware, but this is ridiculous. I understand each phone has its nuance, but there is a limit. Thankfully, Oppo included an extra battery. Perhaps with this freebie, they acknowledge battery drain? Thankful for the rapid charger too. I hope a firmware release is on the way that will address the battery drain issues.
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I don't get poor battery life by any means. I got 13+ hours yesterday with 7+ hours of on screen time. I just want to know where that drain is coming from and if it can be avoided and yield better battery life.
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I've done a hard reset and disables all gestures so will run it for a day and see.
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I don't get poor battery life by any means. I got 13+ hours yesterday with 7+ hours of on screen time. I just want to know where that drain is coming from and if it can be avoided and yield better battery life.
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Wow, 7 hrs screen time is incredible. You must have everything off, Greenfield, etc...
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Wow, 7 hrs screen time is incredible. You must have everything off, Greenfield, etc...
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At that point I still had the knock on/off gesture enabled. I just had other gestures off. After disabling the knock feature I noticed the OppoKinectService stopped appearing in my battery manager so I guess that solves that.
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I've done a hard reset and disables all gestures so will run it for a day and see.
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I don't get poor battery life by any means. I got 13+ hours yesterday with 7+ hours of on screen time. I just want to know where that drain is coming from and if it can be avoided and yield better battery life.
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Screenshot please :fingers-crossed:
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Screenshot please :fingers-crossed:
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Shows a little over 6 hours. I didn't take another screen shot before reseting and recharging the phone but by end of it I was right at 7 hours.
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Shows a little over 6 hours. I didn't take another screen shot before reseting and recharging the phone but by end of it I was right at 7 hours.
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Thanks, do you also have one of the history details?
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Thanks, do you also have one of the history details?
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Nope
So what's your secret @dc82?
Strange you have the OppoKinectService listed in your battery stats, I have all the gestures on and never see that.
But I, and I think many others, aren't seeing anywhere near the screen battery time you're getting.
What else have you configured/disabled? Which software version?
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So what's your secret @dc82?
Strange you have the OppoKinectService listed in your battery stats, I have all the gestures on and never see that.
But I, and I think many others, aren't seeing anywhere near the screen battery time you're getting.
What else have you configured/disabled? Which software version?
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i normarlly have over 3hrs screen on time during my 1st week with 7a.
phone used time from 17~30 hrs depends on my usage. but generally i think the battery is very good.
and strangely enough, when i leave the phone idle (during my sleep) , it seems to drain faster than when i use the phone during the day? anyone else have the same experience?
Yes, the reports on poor standby are so ubiquitous that I'm pretty sure the rare few who are claiming otherwise don't know what they are talking about or are mistaken. It was mentioned in every single review that bothered to mention standby at all so you can figure you have a known issue(s) affecting all devices.
I'm sure this question has been asked before. But I'm coming from an iPhone so Neff help with this.
As soon as I start using the phone in the morning when it's connected to WiFi. Within a second of using it or 2 minutes if we're being realistic. The phone loses 2%. Is this normal ? Coming from an iPhone where 100% would last at least 20-30 mjnutes. I can't seem to find anything draining my phone either !
I think a longer observation period (a full day / through the night) will give a better idea of how your battery performs. Use the default power settings or other batter monitoring application like GSam Battery Monitor and compare it against other users here.
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I think a longer observation period (a full day / through the night) will give a better idea of how your battery performs. Use the default power settings or other batter monitoring application like GSam Battery Monitor and compare it against other users here.
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If did that across the whole day yesterday let me show you the result. I usually charge when the phone gets to around 35-40%
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I'm sure this question has been asked before. But I'm coming from an iPhone so Neff help with this.
As soon as I start using the phone in the morning when it's connected to WiFi. Within a second of using it or 2 minutes if we're being realistic. The phone loses 2%. Is this normal ? Coming from an iPhone where 100% would last at least 20-30 mjnutes. I can't seem to find anything draining my phone either !
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I just got my phone & I'm having the same issue, I read online that after a few charging cycles we should have alot better battery life
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I just got my phone & I'm having the same issue, I read online that after a few charging cycles we should have alot better battery life
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Had about 3-4 days worth this end will keep an update here. So far not bad been intense usage for about 2-3 hours lost about 25 percent. Could be worse
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Had about 3-4 days worth this end will keep an update here. So far not bad been intense usage for about 2-3 hours lost about 25 percent. Could be worse
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Well that's alot better than what i'm currently getting so there's hope
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If did that across the whole day yesterday let me show you the result. I usually charge when the phone gets to around 35-40%
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Well that's 3.5 hours of screen on time and you're at 45%. That doesn't look bad to me.
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Well that's 3.5 hours of screen on time and you're at 45%. That doesn't look bad to me.
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Okay just making sure I'm getting the full potential of the phone Lolz reviews kept saying 6 hours but that's assuming they let it get to zero
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Okay just making sure I'm getting the full potential of the phone Lolz reviews kept saying 6 hours but that's assuming they let it get to zero
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Any update?
Got nearly 20 hours off charge with moderate usage throughout the day with a mixture of WiFi and 4G. Turning power saver at 50. Phone had 33 per cent left by end of day.
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Any update?
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Look above
MyNameIsRamo said:
I just got my phone & I'm having the same issue, I read online that after a few charging cycles we should have alot better battery life
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Urban myths and old wives tales. Cycling the battery doesn't "improve" battery life on a Li ion battery. What you are possibly doing is making the battery meter more accurate (placement of the "high" and "low" flags that correlate voltage with "full" and "empty"). But its just a means of measurement, and this doesn't affect the battery life itself. Meaning, it doesn't "improve" battery life any more than messing with the fuel gauge in your car would increase or decrease the amount of gas in the tank.
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muzia22 said:
As soon as I start using the phone in the morning when it's connected to WiFi. Within a second of using it or 2 minutes if we're being realistic. The phone loses 2%. Is this normal ? Coming from an iPhone where 100% would last at least 20-30 mjnutes.
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This doesn't mean anything. The battery % is just an estimation based on battery voltage remaining versus how the phone "thinks" you are going to use it. Comparing 98% on Android versus 100% on iOS is apples to oranges. There is no standard for this, or reason to believe they are in anyway comparable.
As previously noted, 3.5 hours screen-on time with 55% drain (45% remaining) is very normal, even good. A lot of things affect battery life, not least of which is how you use your phone, and cell reception in your area. You will see a wide array of variance in the battery life people get. And since yours seems actually pretty good, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Urban myths and old wives tales. Cycling the battery doesn't "improve" battery life on a Li ion battery. What you are possibly doing is making the battery meter more accurate (placement of the "high" and "low" flags that correlate voltage with "full" and "empty"). But its just a means of measurement, and this doesn't affect the battery life itself. Meaning, it doesn't "improve" battery life any more than messing with the fuel gauge in your car would increase or decrease the amount of gas in the tank.
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This doesn't mean anything. The battery % is just an estimation based on battery voltage remaining versus how the phone "thinks" you are going to use it. Comparing 98% on Android versus 100% on iOS is apples to oranges. There is no standard for this, or reason to believe they are in anyway comparable.
As previously noted, 3.5 hours screen-on time with 55% drain (45% remaining) is very normal, even good. A lot of things affect battery life, not least of which is how you use your phone, and cell reception in your area. You will see a wide array of variance in the battery life people get. And since yours seems actually pretty good, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Thanks [emoji3] it was actually &37 percent but that's still pretty good with the battery save g options available I should be able to exceed a full day in the event of an unplanned night out !
To be fair, I feel like Apple designs their phone where their first 20% will take forever to drop but as soon as it passed that point it falls to 0. And yes I've seen it shut down at 10, turned it back on it's at 2. Where as this phone's last 15% seems to take forever to drop.
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id say thats pretty good life outta the battery. the more you use it the more its gonna drain. and those getting like 6 hours of screen on time are strictly on wifi at an office or something. if your out roaming with LTE and the such your probably not going to get 6 hours...
Intense usage on 4g with lots of camera usage and uploads music and a few phone calls. So far so good! Had more than enough when I got home to leave without changing I case I needed it
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To be fair, I feel like Apple designs their phone where their first 20% will take forever to drop but as soon as it passed that point it falls to 0. And yes I've seen it shut down at 10, turned it back on it's at 2. Where as this phone's last 15% seems to take forever to drop.
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I feel the M8, and my past Android phones take a disproportionate amount of time to drop the first few % as well. Maybe not as much as what you are mentioning for the iPhone (couldn't personally comment). May have to do with the saturation charge that occurs when the battery nears full (in fact, you should actually leave your phone on charge for some time after it says full).
Also, the battery meter on any phone is far from accurate. It often can't really be trusted with be within 5 or even 10%. So that would explain why you saw it "jump" down 8%.
Yeah my point was that all these phones' measure battery differently and not exactly accurate so you shouldn't compare Apple to oranges. Oh and the jump in percentages was referring to the iPhones. If anything Android tends to jump up when turned back on lol.
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Hi guys my lg g4 is draining battery about 1% a minute when in use. Simple things like texting or web browsing cause this. This is a serious problem. My previous phones never did this. I dont know if this is hardware or software related. What can be the solution? Samung s6 has a smaller battery but outperforms the G4. My brothers iphone 6 plus has better battery life too. So i want to know what is wrong with the G4 which has the biggest battery out of the two.
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Same problem for me.. have to use spare battery and power bank when I'm not home. Drains super fast.
Also, you can't compare to iPhone as the software is super optimized and the hardware not the same (power friendly CPU and not the same amount of RAM). Plus they added some features to improve battery life.
I can tell, as my bro owns an iPhone 6 Plus too, the SOT is insane.
While doing same activities for 1 hour, my G4 is down at 75% and his iPhone is ~90%. On a day away, his phone lasted without problem while I struggled with my equipment to get 6 hours of SOT.
Meh.
Well the iphone aside but lets compare the galaxy s6 for instance. It has a more powerful cpu and smaller battery but still outlasts the g4. I don't know what is causing this. The operating systems are the same. Both running the latest os possible but getting different battery performance. I believe its a hardware problem more than software. What do you guys think? Can it be software problem?
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Something is wrong then gyus. I get almost 1h SOT from 100% to 90% web browsing.
Maybe is some rouge app or something else.
agree with chaki-, I'm currently ad 75% with 1h screen on time using HSDPA/4G connection. something is messing up your device.
you could try factory reset and monitor your battery life without installing any app to check whether it's a hardware battery problem or not.
Im running the latest os possible. I dont get how samsung s6 can have longer battery life compared to the g4. We have a bigger battery plus the s6 has a more hungry cpu. So how is that possible?
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I have found that Google photos does drain mine. I have to keep going into that app and change to backup on charge only. Otherwise it just keeps going and going. Battery drain with that is like 2% a minute
I understand you might have to disable certain apps etc but im talking about general use. Straight compare with the galaxy s6 our battery performance lacks. I dont see how that is possible. We should have much better battery life compared to most phones.
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I dont know if this is hardware or software related. What can be the solution?
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Neither do we so start posting your battery usage screens. preferably at the end of a battery cycle. no point posting at 80% or 50% left we want to see what it is at 10% or whatever low point at which you decide to recharge.
do you see any items above 'screen' in the battery usage list. if so, click them and screen shot them too.
You did not mention whether your usage is wifi or data, mixed ? what is the split.
Oh and is this a new device you just got. How many recharge cycles have you had so far.
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bel57 said:
Same problem for me.. have to use spare battery and power bank when I'm not home. Drains super fast.
While doing same activities for 1 hour, my G4 is down at 75% and his iPhone is ~90%. On a day away, his phone lasted without problem while I struggled with my equipment to get 6 hours of SOT.
Meh
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ok. when you posted your graphs here, i noticed something.
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Screen discharge on is 119% and when its off its 57% (!)
why ?
do you have many widgets that are updating. what about your wall paper. Is it custom, how big is its file size ?
This is just one thing that is killing your battery every time the screen is off and when it is on.
Try removing widgets and using a very minimalist wall paper, run it a couple of cycles and then tell us what your screen discharge figures are.
Also, you can't compare to iPhone as the software is super optimized and the hardware not the same (power friendly CPU and not the same amount of RAM). Plus they added some features to improve battery life.
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iphone has an auto-lock feature which allows it to sleep without being disturbed. There are equivalents in android but not built into the system.
it also allows to restrict apps from refreshing in the background. If you can do the same you will get the same result if not better.
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do you have many widgets that are updating. what about your wall paper. Is it custom, how big is its file size ?
This is just one thing that is killing your battery every time the screen is off and when it is on.
Try removing widgets and using a very minimalist wall paper
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Just a few widgets used with Smartbulletin display and the stock one with clock+weather. Also, wallpaper is Sony default animated, I got the apk working from my previous Z3. Color is black.
On the other side, boot is managed so only few apps can start and ops too thanks to Xprivacy + hidden menu.
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Just a few widgets used with Smartbulletin display and the stock one with clock+weather. Also, wallpaper is Sony default animated, I got the apk working from my previous Z3. Color is black.
On the other side, boot is managed so only few apps can start and ops too thanks to Xprivacy + hidden menu.
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Do an experiment, remove ALL widgets and use a simple wall paper. not live. file size of wallpaper must not bigger than 50kB.
Do two charge cycles. post your screen discharge on/off. also post your gsam.
I most of the time use 4G. However my point is a straight comparison to the S6. With both running the latest os possible and same usage style. So i dont understand how the s6 comes out on top with a more hungry cpu and smaller battery. What is wrong with our device? You would think we should have better battery life compared to the s6 or even the note 5. Its upsetting to see the phone lack in battery performance
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I most of the time use 4G.
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This will kill a battery quickly if the signal isn't good. Relying on signal bars isn't enough
The way to tell how good your 4G signal is to go to settings->general->about device->status-> look for signal strength
there will be a figure there in dBm. How much is it ?
Its not a signal problem. I have already isolated that from the start. My comparison was with the s6. How can it last longer when we have a less hungry device with bigger battery
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Its not a signal problem. I have already isolated that from the start.
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How much is the dbM ?
My comparison was with the s6. How can it last longer when we have a less hungry device with bigger battery
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Because something is draining your battery faster than on the other device. As to what that 'something' or 'something's remains to be determined.
state your sot and total run time.
Btw how long have you had this device ? how many times have you charged it.
2 months i had it for.
http://www.androidorigin.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-vs-lg-g4-battery-life/
I can see lg g4 is not power efficient like the s6. So we can never get the same battery life as the s6. Even though we have a bigger battery. This is really unfair.
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2 months i had it for.
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what is your avg sot/run time. when on wifi and when on data. second time i've asked this basic question.
in two months what have you tried to do to improve battery life.
I tried to minimise brightness to about 30%. Deleted all the extra apps. Updated to the latest os. Updated all the apps on the phone to latest available. So something is wrong with the G4 in general. From what i read on the tests professionals have done is that the G4 isn't efficient like the s6. So this must be totally a software related problem. Os is not optimized to be efficient. This device has let me down in regards to battery life. I would most likely want to go with another device probably the xperia z5 premium. However i dont know how the g4 would perform with the marshmallow update. That is something we have to wait and see. Hopefully LG do a better job at it this time.
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Did you try a factory reset.
I tried resetting too. I dont know whats causing it
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