Hi all,
Please excuse the n00b questions, recent convert from iOS.. and apologies if this has been covered 1000 times, I could not find what I was looking for with the search function.
I currently own an HTC Desire (Bravo GSM) running 2.2.2 which I have set to Rooted/S-Off. I've been reading about Cyanogenmod and want to give 7.2 a go however I would like to have the option of being able to restore exactly what I've got currently i.e. retaining the Rooted/S-Off without having to go through Revolutionary again etc if at all possible.
There are plenty of guides detailing how to install Cyanogenmod which look straightforward, and I've seen mention of restoring to stock being easy, however there isn't much in the way of info regarding retaining my current Rooted/S-Off status and how to actually perform the restore. I've installed ClockworkMod/Nandroid and have copied the contents of the SD card to my PC as I understand the SD card is cleared during Cyanogenmod's install.
If anyone could give me an insight on whether my aims are possible and a quick guide to restoring (ie, which files I'd need to chuck back onto the SD card to restore), I'd be most grateful.
S-off, root, cwm recovery, SD card partition and the radio survive every time you install a new ROM. You don't/can't back them up. When you do a nandroid backup, it backs up all your data (apps, messages, etc).
Since you already took a nandroid backup, you're good to flash cyanogen mod. Just ensure you've partitioned your SD card correctly and full wipe is done before flashing.
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Dont forget, download gapps to flash after the rom.
Gentlemen, I can see why this forum is so highly regarded. Thank you.
Could anyone let me know if a guide exists to restore from the Nandroid backup?
I would also recommend 4ext recovery, its way better than CWM recovery.
And just so u know if uv made a nandroid backup using CWM recovery, u wont be able to restore it with 4ext recovery (if that makes sense)
So first thing, google 4ext recovery, download and install the "4ext recovery updater app" then open the app and flash 4ext recovery. Once thats done ul have to backup all important files etc + nandroid backup and save to PC coz ul need to partition ur sdcard and that will wipe everything.
Theres a guide in my sig for partitioning with 4ext.
After reading this some time ago, I wonder why everyone wants or needs S-Off.
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/P1i8qzLfkTm
mzrdisi said:
After reading this some time ago, I wonder why everyone wants or needs S-Off.
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/P1i8qzLfkTm
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U need s-off because the desire internal memory is piss poor and with s-off u can change ur hboot to maximize data/user memory. Also u can use fastboot commands, flash radio etc etc.
Desire internal memory partition is 250/40/147 (system, cache,data) so if u flash a custom rom that is only 80mb then ur wasting 170mb in system partition so by using a custom hboot u can maximize ur data partition. Like if u use a rom like mildwild and the rom is 80mb then u can use a hboot that i made where the partition layout is 90/5/342 so ur not wasting any mb
jmcclue said:
U need s-off because the desire internal memory is piss poor and with s-off u can change ur hboot to maximize data/user memory. Also u can use fastboot commands, flash radio etc etc.
Desire internal memory partition is 250/40/147 (system, cache,data) so if u flash a custom rom that is only 80mb then ur wasting 170mb in system partition so by using a custom hboot u can maximize ur data partition. Like if u use a rom like mildwild and the rom is 80mb then u can use a hboot that i made where the partition layout is 90/5/342 so ur not wasting any mb
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That's a great point. And now I realize I posted my response in the completely wrong forum, somehow. Haha
mzrdisi said:
That's a great point. And now I realize I posted my response in the completely wrong forum, somehow. Haha
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Haha i was wondering coz u posted a link for the htc One. The htc desire, u really need s-off but for newer devices u dont (not sure if u can even s-off them anyway) coz they all have enough memory and an unlocked bootloader is enough in my opinion.
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Hi guys, noob help needed.
Sat back for a while and eventually took the plunge yesterday to root and try some custom ROMs and all went fine - thanks to all those who put the time in for the tutorials and tools.
I've come from Stock Orange and the battery life was great which I know others weren't reporting, but since using the custom ROMs I've noticed an increased drain - I need good battery life for my working day.
I've got fake flash and nandroid to make it easy to skip between ROMs, but the stock HTC ROM I want to use for work (no Orange bloatware) is a .exe installer.
So, my noob question - if I run this, will it unroot my phone? Or will I just be able to flash a custom ROM via Fake Flash after?
Second question is - do I need to wipe any data before I run nandroid restore? I read somewhere (can't remember where) that there were SMS issues if you didn't? If so, what exactly should I wipe?
Final question - there seems to be differing opinions on what is the best set-up for the storage card format/partitions. Any recommendations on the 'correct' guide before I sort out Apps2SD?
Thanks in advance for your help
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Basically if you flash an unrooted stock rom, that is what you will have. A stock desire with no root.
What custom roms have you tried? Most should actually increase battery life.
No need to wipe anything before doing a nandroid restore. It's a bit like windows system restore. It replaces everything back to the way it was at the moment you did the backup.
As for A2SD, if you are using a 2.1 rom then you need an EXT partition on the SD card. Froyo or 2.2 roms don't need the EXT partition, but some now use it as most people don't like googles version of A2SD. An EXT partition of 512MB and the rest FAT32 is normally recommended.
socktug said:
Basically if you flash an unrooted stock rom, that is what you will have. A stock desire with no root.
What custom roms have you tried? Most should actually increase battery life.
No need to wipe anything before doing a nandroid restore. It's a bit like windows system restore. It replaces everything back to the way it was at the moment you did the backup.
As for A2SD, if you are using a 2.1 rom then you need an EXT partition on the SD card. Froyo or 2.2 roms don't need the EXT partition, but some now use it as most people don't like googles version of A2SD. An EXT partition of 512MB and the rest FAT32 is normally recommended.
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Appreciate your reply - the unrooted Stock ROM = not rooted, makes sense to me now!
I'm running deFroST now and the battery usage is probably 50% higher... It seems to be the luck of the draw.
Thanks for info on no wipe needed and partitioning.
All the best.
Hi had the official 2.3 RUU installed on my Desire, I have used Reveloutinary.io to S off my phone, i have now r0oted my phone.
I have created an ext 3 partition on the SD card and took a nandroid backup.
The info i really need is my HBOOT v is 6.93, i want to install the "[ROM][15/08][STABLE][Sense2.1+3.0 GB]InsertCoin CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.1.1" on my phone, the question i have is can i simply flash the ROM straight on the phone, or will i have to downgrade the ROM to an official 2.2 RUU first.....
Sorry for the noobness but this is my first post ever so please go easy on me.
If you successfully s-off'd you dont need to downgrade anything, just copy the ROM to the SD Card and for this particular ROM make sure your ext partition is atleast 1GB.
Then Full Wipe/Factory rest + Cache wipe + Dalvik Cache Wipe in recovery.
Now flash the .zip file, after turning off signature verification (should be under "install from sdcard")
Also make sure you download right version of the ROM.
Stock A2SD version if you didnt changed HBOOT, and CM7 version if you changed your HBOOT to CM7.
Also if this is your first ROM, then take a look if you have any WIFI/GSM problems after you booted up, if so it means you might need to update your radio to 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23 (search forum for it, there are guides how to flash it too), if you dont have any issues then just ignore it.
Thank you so much for your help, will try it tomorrow and see how i get on.
I jumped the gun and tried it, i took an online backup using My backup pro and whe i have come to restore all of my apps and settings it has restored nothing.
Is there anything i have missed off this?
Sorry no idea i have no experience with My backup pro.. using Titanium Backup.
as i'm not so much into these flashing stuff, here's a very simple question...
i wanted to flash a new hboot because the small data partition is rly annoying me, even with a2sd++
so only problem that i have is now, can i flash a new hboot that simple or do i have to reflash ROM, do a full wipe or something like that?
my desire is s-off @leedroid HD port, rooted for sure...
thanks for any answers
Make a complete nandroid backup, flash new hboot via fastboot, go back to recovery, wipe everything and restore backup.
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so nandroid backup includes all app installations and settings, but not the partition table(hboot)? also, isnt it problematic to restore the backup into a new hboot, as the partition spaces have changed?
and another question: do i get problems if i have some apps moved to sd card with android system a2sd?
It will cause problems if your /system is bigger than /system on your new partition table. Which hboot you use now and which you plan on using?
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So, I'm planning to finally S-OFF, mainly for the extra internal storage, and the extra speed since I won't be needing my ext3 parition any longer, so just to get some things straight -
1) I am currently on the latest Oxygen ROM, is it OK to S-OFF with this ROM?
2) I've made a nandroid backup of my ROM for restore, thing is, once I re-partition without an sd-ext, what happens when restoring the nandroid? Because when restoring, it needs to restore sd-ext... What do I need to do?
Thanks
As far as I know, Oxygen has a built in a2sd enabled when it sees that you have an EXT partition and might mess up Alpharev's (and or Revolutionary's) S-off process accourding to their site. I suggest you flash CM7 rom temporarily then S-Off with this installed since natively it doesn't support A2SD.
I'm not sure about the 2nd question. My logic tells me that I leave the ext, and do a nandrestore because it will obviously look for an ext partition to flash the data files back. The problem is once, restored and rebooted I don't know if there is a command or zip file you can flash to undo the a2sd and transfer the data from the ext to the data partition of the phone.
It would be better to go do a fresh reinstall of the rom and use titanium backup to restore your apps back.
Thanks, I probably will do the long TB restore process.
Re. the ROM issue - Will flashing Leedroid 2.5.0 Froyo ROM be good enough? As it seems to be pretty stock-ish.
Quoting Alpharev.nl
Requirements:
The only requirement right now is that the ROM you're running is rooted.
As techniques such as 'data2ext' have been popping up, these might disturb our finely-tuned flashing process.
Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files.
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For my understanding as long as the ROM doesn't use data2ext, or 'anything'2ext out of the box it's good to go. I've S-off with Cyanogenmod rom on my phone so I can only speak from what I experienced.
hi all.
first off, i did use search but the info i was searching was all over the place and did not answer all of my questions. and they are:
1. stock bravo partitions are as follows: 250-40-147, if i'm not mistaken? why does titanium backup show system 262MB, and solid explorer 250MB? which one should i believe?
2. if i'm to create custom hboot for my installed rom (stock prerooted odexed GB), can i also shrink cache to say 5MB, and transfer the rest into data? would it make problems with installing apps from play store, or from .apk's on SD (since it's stock rom)?
for third question little info first. currently i've got 204MB occupied out of 250MB (as it's shown in solid explorer), or 214MB free out of 262MB (as it's shown in Titanium backup). i've trimmed the rom to my liking (unneeded apps, widgets, wallpapers, ringtones, HTC IME) and this is the free space i've gained. obviously it would be great if i could transfer that space into data partition.
3. is it possible to make nandroid backup and restore it to custom made hboot? (i think i found that it is, but confirmation doesn't hurt )
4. does anybody have working 210 or 220MB system hboot? i'm a bit scared that i could brick my device, since thalamus said it could happen if the hboot generator produces faulty hboot (there is a way to check, i know, but still...)
thx in advance, people!
My sig theres hboots and no a nandroid doesnt backup nor restore hboot. So do a nandroid backup, full wipe, change hboots, full wipe again then restore nandroid.
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thx, mate. that's what I thought, restore nandroid INTO custom hboot which was flashed before that.
EDIT: it worked. a lot of free space now in combination with stability and smoothness of stock GB. thx again! cheers!