[Q] Phone won't turn on (Stock AT&T) - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

Hi all -
I have an AT&T GS3, completely stock, non-rooted.
This morning, I was scrolling through my launcher, and my thumb accidentally hit Media Hub. It started to load, and then the screen went blank. I just figured it got hung up or something. So I did a battery pull, and restarted the phone. It took a bit longer to restart than usual. Once booted, it then re-booted itself. And then it just died. I can't remember what my battery level was, but it was about 50%.
So while I was doubtful that the battery was dead, I put it on the charger and let it sit for awhile. Nothing.
I've removed the SIM card. I've tried different chargers. The battery feels cool to the touch after being on the charger for awhile... so I'm not sure it's charging. If I plug it in with the battery removed, the red LED comes on. With the battery in, no LED.
I've tried holding the power button in, I've tried to get it to boot in download mode, etc. But I can't get it to do anything.
If I plug it into my computer, it beeps... and lists QHSUSB_DLOAD in the Device Manager.
I tried Googling, but all of the "Sudden Death" type articles/posts are international variants that have the Exynos chip. Haven't seen anything for the US variants.
Any thoughts? Suggestions?
Thank you!

Did you try any alternate battery, like the one from your friend's phone? I feel its a case of "dead" battery.

Unfortunately, none of my friends have a GS3...
I suppose I could make the 45 minute trek to the AT&T store and see if they have a battery I could test out. Not fun, but if it's something as simple as a faulty battery, then it'll be worth it.

Check on Amazon... I think you could get a test one for less than 10 bucks, far less than you might spend elsewhere...

Castaway78 said:
Unfortunately, none of my friends have a GS3...
I suppose I could make the 45 minute trek to the AT&T store and see if they have a battery I could test out. Not fun, but if it's something as simple as a faulty battery, then it'll be worth it.
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Make a call to the at&t store to make sure they'll look at your phone and can fix or replace it. If so, make the journey. You are stock and not rooted. You have nothing to sweat (warranty-wise).

xBeerdroiDx said:
Make a call to the at&t store to make sure they'll look at your phone and can fix or replace it. If so, make the journey. You are stock and not rooted. You have nothing to sweat (warranty-wise).
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I ended up doing just that. Turns out, there's a AT&T Repair Center about an hour away, so I went there. The folks there were really nice, and apologized for the inconvenience. They tried a different battery, and a few other tricks they have, but no go.
So, they swapped it out, (with a refurb I'd imagine), and now I have the pleasure of reloading and resetting everything. Argh.
The worst part about it all is that I lost all my game progress, and a lot of my random saved images. My camera images were thankfully synced with Dropbox. I wish Dropbox would sync more than just my camera images... I might have to look into a 3rd party app to do just that.
What I'm kicking myself for is that about a week ago, I downloaded Carbon, which can backup my apps and data on non-rooted devices. But I didn't run the backup yet. D'oh. That will teach me. I miss my Titanium Backup that would automatically back up my apps to Box while I was sleeping. But I need to root for that. I was thinking about it lately, but I really want to try and stay stock/non-root. We'll see now!
Thanks y'all!

diablo009 said:
Check on Amazon... I think you could get a test one for less than 10 bucks, far less than you might spend elsewhere...
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Yeah, I know it's cheaper... but sometimes it's worth spending the extra money to have it today. It turned out to not be the battery, but if it had been, I'd much rather pay the extra money to have one today, instead of waiting for a replacement to arrive. Even overnight, since it's Sunday, the soonest I could get one via Amazon would be Tuesday.

Castaway78 said:
The worst part about it all is that I lost all my game progress, and a lot of my random saved images. My camera images were thankfully synced with Dropbox. I wish Dropbox would sync more than just my camera images... I might have to look into a 3rd party app to do just that.
What I'm kicking myself for is that about a week ago, I downloaded Carbon, which can backup my apps and data on non-rooted devices. But I didn't run the backup yet. D'oh. That will teach me. I miss my Titanium Backup that would automatically back up my apps to Box while I was sleeping. But I need to root for that. I was thinking about it lately, but I really want to try and stay stock/non-root. We'll see now!
Thanks y'all!
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I have two tasks in Tibu that run every night - one for new apps and new versions, and one for all apps with changed data... and I make sure I sync all this to TiBu every weekend, or maybe twice a week.
One more thing, set up your TiBu to backup data to external SD. This way even in case of failure, you could always take the card out. Same for camera too... set it up to save images and videos to external SD.

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[q] super bricked!

I've been rooting and working with custom roms for a long time (couple of years at least). I started with WinMo, and since I got my Evo the day they came out, I've been doing it in Android. I can also use ADB, and can typically recover from pretty much any problem on my Evo. (not claiming to be an expert) HOWEVER...
A couple days ago I loaded the latest Fresh ROM on my phone, and ran out the door while it was loading. Got in my car, the Evo started to reboot after applying the ROM, and zzzZZZIP! The thing went dead. And I mean REAL DEAD. The led which usually shows the charge level as not lit. I pulled the battery and tried to turn it on after replacing it. No go. Nothing when holding down vol while pressing power... nothing. When I got home I tried a wall charger, still no light, no boot, no drive with !, nothing. When the wife got home, tried her Evo's battery... same kind of nothing. USB connection to PC gives no adb access, no fastboot access,... you guessed it, nothing.
Sprint doesn't replace it if you didn't buy the warranty. Called HTC, of course they'll happily replace it, as long as it wasn't rooted. So I have a two part question.
Firstly, because I want my Evo back NOW! No, two days ago! LOL Is there a way to fix it?
Second, if I send it in, is there a way for them to know I rooted it?
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Have you tried a different battery? That one may be fried. Just a suggestion.
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fdb8231 said:
Have you tried a different battery? That one may be fried. Just a suggestion.
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Thanks for the quick response! Yep, tried that. I thought maybe I had one of the USB port issues that didn't allow me to charge the phone, but alas, my wife's fully charged battery couldn't boot it (or do anything), and my battery worked fine in her Evo.
I also disassembled the phone to check solder connections both on the battery connector and the usb port... both looked totally fine.
Well, if you pay insurance on it you could always accidentally lose it and report it lost or stolen.... that's what I would do, but that's just me....
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Yeah, I'll weigh my options. I think I'll send it to HTC first. I really don't think they can read the internal memory in this condition. I think it is probably fried. It is too late for the Sprint TPE (warranty), but but I might be able to finagle a squaretrade warranty. It will take time though. I thought about having a friend list it in eBay as a buy it now for what a new one costs, buy it from him (he give me my money back), and wait whatever period squaretrade requires, and file a claim. They're great, and I should have bought a squaretrade warranty from day 1. I've had it on the two phones prior and had to use it on one of them. They're easy to deal with and cheaper than any other options. Plus, its more flexible since they don't replace the phone, they issue you a refund for it (which would give me the option of switching phones, not that I would).
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I've been rooting and working with custom roms for a long time (couple of years at least). I started with WinMo, and since I got my Evo the day they came out, I've been doing it in Android. I can also use ADB, and can typically recover from pretty much any problem on my Evo. (not claiming to be an expert) HOWEVER...
A couple days ago I loaded the latest Fresh ROM on my phone, and ran out the door while it was loading. Got in my car, the Evo started to reboot after applying the ROM, and zzzZZZIP! The thing went dead. And I mean REAL DEAD. The led which usually shows the charge level as not lit. I pulled the battery and tried to turn it on after replacing it. No go. Nothing when holding down vol while pressing power... nothing. When I got home I tried a wall charger, still no light, no boot, no drive with !, nothing. When the wife got home, tried her Evo's battery... same kind of nothing. USB connection to PC gives no adb access, no fastboot access,... you guessed it, nothing.
Sprint doesn't replace it if you didn't buy the warranty. Called HTC, of course they'll happily replace it, as long as it wasn't rooted. So I have a two part question.
Firstly, because I want my Evo back NOW! No, two days ago! LOL Is there a way to fix it?
Second, if I send it in, is there a way for them to know I rooted it?
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
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Are you certain the battery isn't fried? Also, make sure the SD card is fully seated and secure. With the battery OUT, connect your EVO to it's power supply and then reinsert the battery. Sometimes, after doing so, you will see the LED light up. If not, try again. If it still does not, try getting to the Hboot screen by pressing the down volume button while also pressing the power button.
I am pretty sure I tried that. I pulled battery while plugged in, put battery back, no difference. The first thing I thought was that it was a bad battery connection, because the phone has never worked with the battery out, but plugged in. The battery MUST be in to work. So I disassembled it to check the battery and USB connection solder points, and they look fine.
I called a reputable mobile phone tech and he said he has seen this a few times with rooted Android devices. He said he doesn't think they will be able to read the internal memory, or probably won't go through the effort it would require to (pull the internal memory out and put it in a reader).
Just pull all your root files off the SD card cause that is a dead give away that it is rooted.
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Insurance
Going through HTC is going to be a waste of time. Their turn around time is 30 days... And thats if they dont discover the rooting and therefore actually replace it.
Your best bet is sucking it up and paying the $100 deductible for Asurion insurance... If you order on their website www.phoneclaim.com they will overnight for free. However I have heard of it being back-ordered, in which case you will either wait, or be one of the lucky guys who gets a brand new one.
In regards to them seeing your internal memory, I would say its 50/50. They can recover that sort of stuff, but at the same time, HTC is way more lenient with rooting/mods than other manufacturers.
Good luck
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Just pull all your root files off the SD card cause that is a dead give away that it is rooted.
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As it turns out, when you send your phone to HTC, you have to pull your battery cover, battery, microSD card, and any other "accessories" you have off, and keep them. They only want the phone without any of these items. I asked the guy, "you don't want me to ship the batter OR even the cover with the phone, but separate?" He said, "no, they are yours to keep. if you send them to us, they will not be returned." LOL! If they replace the phone, I'll have spare parts! Yaaay! I left my screen protector on it, in case they can fix it, they won't scratch it. Love my Evo y'all!
Yah the same exact thing happened to me when i first got my evo (the first day it came out). Absolutely no sign of life, but got it through best buy and just went back with no insurance or anything and she gave me another one on the spot.
Yeah if it won't even power, they won't bother. You are straight unless by some miracle they actually get it working.
TEP is a godsend.
I'm supremely surprised no one has popped in to say "WRONG SECTION AMAGADWTFBBQ!"
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I'm supremely surprised no one has popped in to say "WRONG SECTION AMAGADWTFBBQ!"
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That would be so barbaric and elementary - so many capitals and so much hostility!
To the OP:
Wrong section, jackhole.
It will probably cost you $35 without the insurance. If one store doesn't work, try another.
Yeah, just smash it on the floor and claim a new one
$100.00 ..thats it.
Where to post this?
I had a feeling this was the wrong place to post this, but not sure where else to do it. General maybe?
SORRY! ;-P
I wouldn't have a problem if an admin moved it to the right place.
Do did you make a decision to send it in?
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Do did you make a decision to send it in?
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Yeah, with fingers and toes crossed.
Well, I don't think they'll find out. Cuz I'm in engineering, and they could try to overvolt the phone [in an attempt to turn it on] but too much a risk of frying the circuits. Also no sdcard so they can't see your files...and way too much work to disassemble...so I think you're good.
Thanks man, that really is reassuring. I'm kind of on pins and needles over this. I can't afford ANYTHING, much less to buy another phone (I was laid off Jan 1).
I've been desperately trying to learn to program in Java, for Android. Both should provide me with more flexibility financially. I'd rather work as a contractor than FTE any day, but sysadmin type work is hard to find these days. I didn't expect to enjoy programming as much as I am, which is a pleasant surprise. Java isn't so hard. ;-)
I hope to get my Evo replaced under warranty. Then I hope to get more income by the time the new Evo 3D comes out! Not to sideline this thread, but what do you guys think of that thing? I'm also wondering if the new Evo View 4G would work as a phone replacement, just using Google Voice to replace cell service. Most new cars have bluetooth built in, and otherwise can use a bt headset (even stereo headphone type), so you never have to hold it to your head anyway.
Sorry, I guess I spaced posting my results. The did not know out had been rooted. They just replaced the motherboard and sent out back.
Unfortunately, they downgraded me from hw version 003 to 002. There were also two soft key lights out and I sent it back. Even though I complained about the version difference they still put another v2 in it. I called US public relations and came close to getting a hwy v3 board in but in the end it didn't happen. All they really care is that they made the device work.
Moral of the story is, if your Evo is dead-dead, send it to htc, and now you know what to expect.

Well my phone just went bye bye

I dont know what happened. Running stock everything
All of a sudden the phone shut off and now it vibrates every 2 seconds. Have tried everything to get it on.
When you put the battery back in, it shows the load up screen and then half way through, shuts itself off and just vibrates once every 2 seconds. Really annoying.
Called T-Mobile and having a replacement sent tomorrow.
ITALIANNYC said:
I dont know what happened. Running stock everything
All of a sudden the phone shut off and now it vibrates every 2 seconds. Have tried everything to get it on.
When you put the battery back in, it shows the load up screen and then half way through, shuts itself off and just vibrates once every 2 seconds. Really annoying.
Called T-Mobile and having a replacement sent tomorrow.
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That sucks. Good that they are replacing it. What was the last thing you were doing before it happened?
VoiD_Dweller said:
That sucks. Good that they are replacing it. What was the last thing you were doing before it happened?
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Yeah I have PHP protection with them so I always have warrenty and insurance together. Its alot easier trying to get an exchange when your phone wont turn on because they dont make you do 1000 different things lol, was off the phone within 5 mins. Tried being slick and saying " Well you know if their arent any S2 in stock, you can always send me the s3 if you like ".. Didnt work =[ They had s2 lol
Anyway, nothing really. Was just typing, put the phone down, then the screen went off like it always does, then when I tried to turn it back on to unlock it, it happened.
This happened a few weeks ago but the vibrating lasted for a couple of mins ten ended up turning itself back on. Now its just not turning itself back on at all. Just stuck with the vibrate.
Am I losing everything on it now or will it automatically back up on my gmail account?
I knew I shouldnt have saved all those pix on the phone and not the sd card lol
ITALIANNYC said:
I dont know what happened. Running stock everything
All of a sudden the phone shut off and now it vibrates every 2 seconds. Have tried everything to get it on.
When you put the battery back in, it shows the load up screen and then half way through, shuts itself off and just vibrates once every 2 seconds. Really annoying.
Called T-Mobile and having a replacement sent tomorrow.
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Is this a thing with this phone? Got the same problem two days ago. Cant send to tmobile, any idea anybody?
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ITALIANNYC said:
Am I losing everything on it now or will it automatically back up on my gmail account?
I knew I shouldnt have saved all those pix on the phone and not the sd card lol
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Sorry, unless you had some kind of auto upload set up ( I set mine up through Dropbox and Google + ), those pictures are likely lost.
Google doesn't automatically sync pics unless you have Picasa, I think?
Russian smashed across the interwebz from my T-Mobile Galaxy S2.
Sounds like the power button might be stuck.
I gotta say, I HATE UPS. I dont know why T-mobile uses them. You get overnight delivery and of course they ring the wrong bell and do not come back. I live on ground floor and they up and ring top bell. Fed EX of course would always come back. Thank fully the overnight delivery was basically be free, but that sucks. I also wish they would just leave the phone sometimes but they never do, even though it is not sig required. ( Drivers Discruction )
Gotta wait till Monday now.
sux brohim
had the same thing happen to me. this was back when i was dong the stock ICS update through (hang myself) Kies. Thankfully T-mobile sent me a new one at no charge and i didn't pay for the shipping either. either battery fried or something in the phone. seems to have been a fairly rare but known prob with the t989.
i always seem to to get the units that are within the .05% of defective units, no matter what company i buy from.
Here's to hoping you get better luck with the next unit! :raise a beer:
Quick question
I have used GB for my gs2 from the beginning and never upgraded to ICS.
I am worried that the replacement they send will have ICS in it. Simply put, will it be easy for me to put GB on the phone when I get it.
You can root and flash a gb Rom
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You can go through odin and follow the tutorial on galaxys2root.com to unroot and ffash to stock GB. Link provided. The power button may have been stuck on yours but congratulations on getting it replaced. Just follow that tutorial and it will get you to stock 2.3.6 GB with no root or anything done, completely stock.
http://galaxys2root.com/t-mobile-ga...ck-t-mobile-galaxy-s2-sgh-t989-android-2-3-6/
Was messing around with the power button today pushing it 100 times and it finally turned on. Figures it would turn on when I'm getting a new one on Monday. Least I now backed up all my pix and contacts. Now point in keeping this one though, probably gunna happen again. Keeping the new one.
Wow another S2 down with a defective power button. I just had to send my out to get fixed for the same problem. This is become more common
So I received the phone today. Came stock with 4.0.4.
I plug it into my computer and kies gives me this
" Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies "
What the hell is that all about.
Oh and when I made my first call, I heard the people on the other end, but they did not hear me. I had to battery pull. It sucks because that was an issue with my phone on GB, figured it might have been fixed with ICS. Guess not. It really makes me sick that this happens. Sometimes I call someone and I hear nothing at all. Its happened with both GB and ICS. When the hell are they going to issue a fix for this crap.
First thing that I noticed and do not like is that when I use the keyboard, the phone vibrate heptic or w.e is not as strong as it was with GB. Also the voice on the other end sounds more muffled and more can like than GB. Not sure if thats the phone though
I keep reading that ICS stock verison UVLH1 ICS 4.0.4 is the Official tmobile and best ICS rom for stock
The phone they sent me is Baseband Version UVLI1.
I cant find anything on this version. What is it?
ITALIANNYC said:
I dont know what happened. Running stock everything
All of a sudden the phone shut off and now it vibrates every 2 seconds. Have tried everything to get it on.
When you put the battery back in, it shows the load up screen and then half way through, shuts itself off and just vibrates once every 2 seconds. Really annoying.
Called T-Mobile and having a replacement sent tomorrow.
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Time for upgrade maybe you can convince them to send you S3
I had to just replace my S2 with a new one from t-mo because I had tons of problems with my original phone once it upgraded to ICS. "Hanging" goodbye (didn't want to shut off unless you took out the battery, even after the buzz - which tells me that I may possibly had a stuck on/off switch too), lost the phone's internal driver so that the phone can be plugged into my PC, internet and processes became S-L-O-W-E-R than molasses, and more.
I'm assuming that, since all the S2's now have ICS on them shipping out, Samsung may have added a little additional processor power or something in order for it to run efficiently on ICS. All I know is that it runs a little faster than my original S2 did. And no problems - SO FAR.
P.S. UPS really does suck - they tried to deliver twice to my house, didn't leave one of those sticky things that said they were there, and I finally wound up going to a UPS service facility where I had to wait over one hour to get my new phone.
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I had to just replace my S2 with a new one from t-mo because I had tons of problems with my original phone once it upgraded to ICS. "Hanging" goodbye (didn't want to shut off unless you took out the battery, even after the buzz - which tells me that I may possibly had a stuck on/off switch too), lost the phone's internal driver so that the phone can be plugged into my PC, internet and processes became S-L-O-W-E-R than molasses, and more.
I'm assuming that, since all the S2's now have ICS on them shipping out, Samsung may have added a little additional processor power or something in order for it to run efficiently on ICS. All I know is that it runs a little faster than my original S2 did. And no problems - SO FAR.
P.S. UPS really does suck - they tried to deliver twice to my house, didn't leave one of those sticky things that said they were there, and I finally wound up going to a UPS service facility where I had to wait over one hour to get my new phone.
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I am not really happy with it. Seems slower to me. Not as smooth. Still sometimes the person on the other line cant hear me, and vice versa with the battery pull, but I had that with my old phone and GB also. If I am going to have it either way though, id rather just stay smoother with GB.
What did your new one come with? Mine is UVLI1. Kernel 3.0.8

Random shut downs?

Hi guys. Haven't been here in a while. My daughter is now saying her cap. glide is randomly shutting itself down- not related to low battery. It happened 3 times in one week. When she powered it up the battery was fine. The phone is about 9 months old. I think it has a 12 month warranty. At least on the samsung site it says 12 months. We got it from ATT with contract renewal.
I read that the regular Captivate had this problem. Did it flow over into the glide? Haven't found anything about it. I assume ATT will replace with a refurb if anything.
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Hi guys. Haven't been here in a while. My daughter is now saying her cap. glide is randomly shutting itself down- not related to low battery. It happened 3 times in one week. When she powered it up the battery was fine. The phone is about 9 months old. I think it has a 12 month warranty. At least on the samsung site it says 12 months. We got it from ATT with contract renewal.
I read that the regular Captivate had this problem. Did it flow over into the glide? Haven't found anything about it. I assume ATT will replace with a refurb if anything.
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I use mine pretty heavy and havent noticed any problem i assume that you are running the phone completely stock and if so i would suggest that you download samsung kies from samsungs site and run it then plug the phone in and it will ask you if you want to update the phone it may run better on the newest firmware that there is other wise i would download avgs free antivirus app and run it to see if there are any apps that might be to blame i would post links but to avoid spam i am not allowed
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I use mine pretty heavy and havent noticed any problem i assume that you are running the phone completely stock and if so i would suggest that you download samsung kies from samsungs site and run it then plug the phone in and it will ask you if you want to update the phone it may run better on the newest firmware that there is other wise i would download avgs free antivirus app and run it to see if there are any apps that might be to blame i would post links but to avoid spam i am not allowed
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Thanks for your response. Yes, it is stock rom, but I have it rooted with CWM recovery on it. I don't think kies can update it due to CWM. And it's in another state. LOL. But good to know you don't have the issue. As for running antivirus, my daughter does not even know what that is- she barely runs it on her computer. If I ever get my hands on it I will try your suggestion for AV.
Could be a battery issue... mine did the same, and when I took out the battery it was slightly swollen.
Thanks for that. I'll have her check it out.:fingers-crossed:
Interested in your solution
My wife's Captivate Glide just started having random shutdowns last week. I came over looking for a "return to stock" thread hoping that putting a new OS might help when I saw this thread. I've been reading xda on the GalaxyII boards since getting mine last year so have some familarity with xda. Wife prefers to not update OS so I want to avoid ICS. She had AVG installed and I added Lookout to scan with it also and can't seem to find an issue with those. The problem for her mainly manifest itself when she has the internet turned on. The phone will basically act like the battery is critical and do a shutdown even if it is over 50 percent. power up with the cord in and it still shows good charge. If I find something that works I'll post it here also.
I have random shutdowns/boot cycles too. I've narrowed it to a hardware issue. I was running rooted stock rom, but also ran liquidsmooth and now on aokp rom, and its still happens.
I posted a topic a couple weeks ago, asked if anyone has any experience replacing the power button..its not that it sticks, but if pressed the wrong way in the wrong spot, the phone goes into endless boot mode, with the samsung logo up for about three sec, then black, then samsung logo, then black.
The timing is rarely the same. There's no debris or gunk. Its not battery. Its not overclock issue. Its something to do with the phyical power button.
Can I diasble power button using key remapping?
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Having the same problems with my Glide, and I really do think it's a hardware issue since my battery looks fine. After reading many threads here and elsewhere, I'm resigned to the fact that it can't be fixed, but more suggestions are welcome.
My daughter has had this phone for almost a year and it just started happening to hers. She is very hard on her phone. 5000 texts/month with alot of drops. She just might have abused it to near death. lol.
Random Boot
Hello guys;
I think I'm having same or very similar issue.
My phone is randomly shutting down; some times is in cyclic restarts.
Did you guys came up with a solution to this problem?
Thanks
sashusmom said:
My daughter has had this phone for almost a year and it just started happening to hers. She is very hard on her phone. 5000 texts/month with alot of drops. She just might have abused it to near death. lol.
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5000 texts per month?
Does your daughter know how to speak or is she only familiar with written language?
If you're on a stock rom, it's almost certainly a bad battery.
Battery voltage will drop when it's hot or if it's damaged. When you turn it back on, the phone says you still have plenty of power left.
What the phone is really doing is making a guess about how much battery life it has left.
It knows the voltage. Now, if you know the voltage a battery is producing with no load, you can get sort of an idea of how much more life you can get out of it. The phone keeps track of this (roughly) and tries to guess. It's also not going to let the battery drop too far down below 3.6 volts, it will shut it off for safety, because if you truly completely discharge a lithium battery, you can't charge it. (there are tricks to get them going again, but it's bad for them.)
And a damaged battery can have plenty of volts, but once you put it under load it will drop sharply. The phone will power down to protect the battery, or it just won't be able to stay on any longer.
Anyway, pull your battery. Make sure it isn't bulging. Pick up a spare off of ebay for $10 and see if it is better.
Or if it's under warranty, just take it in.
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5000 texts per month?
Does your daughter know how to speak or is she only familiar with written language?
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Lol.... Sometimes it's only 3 thousand. But you are right. The art of communication is being lost on this generation of kids who rely on computers, tablets, and smartphones. Instead of calling, they text about everything.
My daughter is graduating:victory: with a double major- Theatre and speech (performance) so we know she can talk and sing and psychology with ambitions to get a masters in dance therapy to work with autistic kids.... If broadway does not work out Any directors or producers out there need new talent?? :fingers-crossed:
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If you're on a stock rom, it's almost certainly a bad battery.
Battery voltage will drop when it's hot or if it's damaged. When you turn it back on, the phone says you still have plenty of power left.
What the phone is really doing is making a guess about how much battery life it has left.
It knows the voltage. Now, if you know the voltage a battery is producing with no load, you can get sort of an idea of how much more life you can get out of it. The phone keeps track of this (roughly) and tries to guess. It's also not going to let the battery drop too far down below 3.6 volts, it will shut it off for safety, because if you truly completely discharge a lithium battery, you can't charge it. (there are tricks to get them going again, but it's bad for them.)
And a damaged battery can have plenty of volts, but once you put it under load it will drop sharply. The phone will power down to protect the battery, or it just won't be able to stay on any longer.
Anyway, pull your battery. Make sure it isn't bulging. Pick up a spare off of ebay for $10 and see if it is better.
Or if it's under warranty, just take it in.
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Very informative. Thank you. She did pull the battery and it was fine. It is about a year old. I got her 2 replacements and she just doesn't use them. I will suggest that she switches to a new one- although they are almost a year old too, but unused- I charged them up once before i gave them to her.
phone saga continues!!!
:silly: Well, my daughter being sooooo poor that she couldn't buy herself a BOX of tissues(cough-cough), she was pulling toilet paper from the dorm bathroom and plop! OOps!! Her phone fell into the drink! (toilet bowl!!)
She knew enough to pull the battery and used a blowdryer to start the dry out process, and put it into a bag of rice. Didn't leave it in long enough and tried to power on- did a little dance, and it died. I thought she fried it, but she put it in rice again- battery pulled and slid in the open position.
2 days later she called us on it- (today) and it seems to be working!!!:victory:
So, Rice saved the day again! :silly::good::highfive::fingers-crossed:
We'll see how long it lasts. I bought a cheap go phone last nite on att for $21 as a temporary replacement. Maybe it won't be needed.
Help!!
Hard to believe my glide is begining to give problems. After flashing a stock kernel on spike55 jb 4.2 rom,i started getting random app crashings. So i sought to revert by flashing back the original jb ROM,but it got worse. Now i was uable to get network and my baseband version displayed unknown also i had random reboots.
At this junction, i realised i had to revert to stock. So i got a stock ICS rom from sammobile, flashed it via odin and whala! Problem seemed solved. So i flashed CWMR and reflashed jb 4.2.
Afterward, all seemed well not until the random reboots came back. So here i was thinking about my phone being tired of all the flashing and wanting to be on stock. I went back to stock, but the random reboots still lingers.
Though i have a feeling the problem is with my power rocker cos only a little tap pops up the power menu.
At this junction, i dunno what to do. I'll be very grateful if i can get any real assistance from anyone. Thanks a bunch in anticipation.
So I thought I'd post again. Daughter home for good. Started complaining about her battery again. I found her 2 spare batteries that were never used. Had her make the switch.
Then I looked at the removed battery. It was slightly swollen. You had to look straight down to tell. Looking at it flat, it seemed to be fine. But put it on end and it had a slight bulge. So it was a battery going bad. We caught it before the phone was damaged.
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Hello!!! Back again My daughter ran on macadam and her unprotected cap. glide plopped out of her sweatshirt pocket and hit hard. A small hairline crack in the screen, but it pretty much killed the digital panel. She had it for 18 months and for her, that's a record. But she loved the phone.
We just got a new one unlocked one off amazon for $138. No contract renewal for her.
If anyone is still reading this thread, her OS is 2.3.5 or 6. Is it worth updating to ics? We don't have kies installed so it will be a job to get everything installed, get drivers working, etc. She will be happy with GB. Last time I made the change to swap external and internal sd cards and she had no problems.
So is ICS worth the effort? Battery life? Can the sd swap trick work? Any advice will be appreciated. Presently it is new and stock.
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So is ICS worth the effort?
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..it might even have come with ICS, the UI differences to GB are very slim.. Can't say more because stock roms are far inferior to the beast called P.A.C.man ROM :laugh: :good:
Really depends if she is tech savy and will explore the depths of customizability and usage... If so, http://pacman.basketbuild.com/index.php?dir=main/i927/nightly/ is the next place to go
Nightly builds 'been broken for 10 days now but should be fixed soon by awesome @kick buttowski :good:
And on a rooted phone, Titanium Backup can import/export SMSs and contacts supposedly even over to a different rom. (Still struggling a bit getting all my contacts ported from the sony xperia system, but..)
Oh by the way, one of them plastic hard cases is about 5$ on the bay
...It's not water proof though
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..it might even have come with ICS, the UI differences to GB are very slim.. Can't say more because stock roms are far inferior to the beast called P.A.C.man ROM :laugh: :good:
Really depends if she is tech savy and will explore the depths of customizability and usage... If so, http://pacman.basketbuild.com/index.php?dir=main/i927/nightly/ is the next place to go
Nightly builds 'been broken for 10 days now but should be fixed soon by awesome @kick buttowski :good:
And on a rooted phone, Titanium Backup can import/export SMSs and contacts supposedly even over to a different rom. (Still struggling a bit getting all my contacts ported from the sony xperia system, but..)
Oh by the way, one of them plastic hard cases is about 5$ on the bay
...It's not water proof though
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Nice to see people are still using this phone. As far as the case- I must have bought 5 of them for her. She didn't want them on her phone. Now that she paid for her own replacement, she may rethink that one! lol. She is not tech saavy at all, so custom builds are not her thing. I didn't even do the mods on this phone that I did on her original. Thanks for your input. OH, it's still GB.

[Q] Major problem with my stock ATT E980

Okay, I originally got this phone as an upgrade over my HTC Inspire in July. It worked great, minus a few random reboots every once in a while (if I left it in my pocket for a long time or if it was really hot in my car it would do this, but that was it). Then, about a month or two ago, I rooted it and installed a custom ROM. I noticed that a bunch of my files were missing from my internal SD card, but I wasn't too worried about it. Then my phone started acting really weird and got stuck in a bootloop. I was able to boot into recovery, but I ended up using the LG Flash Tool and went back to bone stock. Still had the issue, except I noticed that my signal would drop, and then it'd get stuck in the bootloop. So, I contacted AT&T warranty and they sent me a replacement. Now the same thing is happening to this one. It gets warm, loses cell signal, then reboots, sometimes a bootloop. This phone hasn't been rooted at all, it's been left stock. So I contacted AT&T and the guy in warranty said he thinks it's the battery, but he didn't have any in stock so he couldn't send a replacement. So I was thinking it was the battery and called LG after it seemed to get worse. They told me that they could replace the battery free of charge if I send in the one I'm using first. Since this is my only way of communication, I contacted AT&T again, and they're sending me another replacement. (Said if this one screw up too, they'll give me a different phone all together). The guy had me download some AT&T remote support app and he looked at the battery health and said it's reading fine, and that because it's reading fine, he didn't think it was the battery. :|
Here's the weird thing, about two weeks ago, it went into a bootloop. I took out the battery for a minute an tried to put it back in. Nothing. I plugged the charger into it and it basically told me that it didn't have enough juice to power on. (battery was at ~40%). So I took the battery back out and tried again. This time it came on.
Then last friday, I was jammin out to music while I was working, it would reboot when I unlocked the phone. (battery was in upper 90%'s). I plugged the charger in while it did this and everything came up as it should. But after taking it off the charger and trying to do more work, it happened again and again.
Like I said, this phone is straight from AT&T and has not had anything flashed onto it by me, hell I never even disabled all the AT&T bloat this time. I've tried a hard reset, and it didn't help. Does anybody know what would be the cause of my problems? I really like this phone and really hope I can get this figured out.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, the phone still has its IMEI number and it has the value pack update.
Got the second replacement in the mail today. It hasn't screwed up yet, but only time will tell.
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Got the second replacement in the mail today. It hasn't screwed up yet, but only time will tell.
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Wow hope this works for you. I just got 3 Optimus G Pro's on 12/30/13 and all 3 of them to date have not had any issues. 2 black and 1 white. 2 which are running stock. 1 stock which has had a bunch of the bloatware yanked (that we could get off of it). 1 stock which has had nothing pulled, everything left the way it is. And the 3rd one (which is the one I use) which I rooted to CyanFox 4.4.2 and later to CM11 4.4.2 Nightly and haven't had any issues like the ones you've explained.
Good luck though hopefully your issue is gone. Seems like a nice reliable phone (minus LG not wanting to support it furthermore ).
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Wow hope this works for you. I just got 3 Optimus G Pro's on 12/30/13 and all 3 of them to date have not had any issues. 2 black and 1 white. 2 which are running stock. 1 stock which has had a bunch of the bloatware yanked (that we could get off of it). 1 stock which has had nothing pulled, everything left the way it is. And the 3rd one (which is the one I use) which I rooted to CyanFox 4.4.2 and later to CM11 4.4.2 Nightly and haven't had any issues like the ones you've explained.
Good luck though hopefully your issue is gone. Seems like a nice reliable phone (minus LG not wanting to support it furthermore ).
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I really hope my issues with this phone are done too, I really love this phone. If I don't have any issues, it's going to get rooted and updated to KitKat. Otherwise, I'll try to get AT&T to give me a MotoX or a HTC One.
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I really hope my issues with this phone are done too, I really love this phone. If I don't have any issues, it's going to get rooted and updated to KitKat. Otherwise, I'll try to get AT&T to give me a MotoX or a HTC One.
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Yeah I like this phone with KitKat. Looks like a larger Nexus 5
Only problems i'm having with CM11:
1. ATT Visual Voicemail will install but upon playing voicemails program will freeze and crash
2. Tried Google Voice however you can only hear the voicemails through speakerphone, headsets, or bluetooth. Voicemails will no play through earpiece.
3. CM11 doesn't have Screen Recorder yet (Which CyanFox did although CM11 is still fairly fresh).
4. I would like to have the LG Camera app back! Dual video recording and some of those other features are gone with the android stock Camera app. Need to look into porting that back over to KitKat (if I can).
That's bout it though...
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Yeah I like this phone with KitKat. Looks like a larger Nexus 5
Only problems i'm having with CM11:
1. ATT Visual Voicemail will install but upon playing voicemails program will freeze and crash
2. Tried Google Voice however you can only hear the voicemails through speakerphone, headsets, or bluetooth. Voicemails will no play through earpiece.
3. CM11 doesn't have Screen Recorder yet (Which CyanFox did although CM11 is still fairly fresh).
4. I would like to have the LG Camera app back! Dual video recording and some of those other features are gone with the android stock Camera app. Need to look into porting that back over to KitKat (if I can).
That's bout it though...
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Haha yeah, this phone is beautiful with stock Android, I just end up missing certain touches that LG puts in their overlay.
BTW, this phone is doing the same thing as before. I strongly believe it's the battery b/c when it went into a bootloop, I took out the battery it was warm, so I put it in front of the AC for a minute to cool it down and it's been working fine since. So, I'm going to call AT&T and see if they will send me a battery, and if they can't, I'm going to have to send this one in to LG and be without a phone for a week...:'(
UPDATE: AT&T told me "since we have tried everything else-hard resets, replacement phones- and nothing worked, we will send you a battery since it's the only thing that has stayed persistent through this ordeal. We just got some in stock and are sending one your way. If the problem continues to persist, we will replace the phone again." IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!
Just curious, but what if I continue having this issue after I get my new battery? Should I try a similar mah zero lemon battery or just have att give me a different phone altogether?
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Just curious, but what if I continue having this issue after I get my new battery? Should I try a similar mah zero lemon battery or just have att give me a different phone altogether?
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i think there is an issue with the battery and whatever cable you use to charge the phone.I had to Lge980 when I used a thin cable I have in my room sometimes it did not charged at all and or shut down itself even when the battery had half charge ,sometimes it showed full charged but if I plugged the phone to a thicker cable connected using the oem charger or a usb 3.0 port at my laptop it showed the real charge level at 1/4 charge.I myself could't do anything since I got the phone second hand but as long as I used thick cable connected to a oem charger usb 3.0 or eben 2.0 I had no had any issues.
how'd it go?
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Haha yeah, this phone is beautiful with stock Android, I just end up missing certain touches that LG puts in their overlay.
BTW, this phone is doing the same thing as before. I strongly believe it's the battery b/c when it went into a bootloop, I took out the battery it was warm, so I put it in front of the AC for a minute to cool it down and it's been working fine since. So, I'm going to call AT&T and see if they will send me a battery, and if they can't, I'm going to have to send this one in to LG and be without a phone for a week...:'(
UPDATE: AT&T told me "since we have tried everything else-hard resets, replacement phones- and nothing worked, we will send you a battery since it's the only thing that has stayed persistent through this ordeal. We just got some in stock and are sending one your way. If the problem continues to persist, we will replace the phone again." IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!
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I've had the exact same problem with my E980 and the refurb they sent me. Contemplating a battery replacement now. Did a new battery fix your boot loops?
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Okay, I originally got this phone as an upgrade over my HTC Inspire in July. It worked great, minus a few random reboots every once in a while (if I left it in my pocket for a long time or if it was really hot in my car it would do this, but that was it). Then, about a month or two ago, I rooted it and installed a custom ROM. I noticed that a bunch of my files were missing from my internal SD card, but I wasn't too worried about it. Then my phone started acting really weird and got stuck in a bootloop. I was able to boot into recovery, but I ended up using the LG Flash Tool and went back to bone stock. Still had the issue, except I noticed that my signal would drop, and then it'd get stuck in the bootloop. So, I contacted AT&T warranty and they sent me a replacement. Now the same thing is happening to this one. It gets warm, loses cell signal, then reboots, sometimes a bootloop. This phone hasn't been rooted at all, it's been left stock. So I contacted AT&T and the guy in warranty said he thinks it's the battery, but he didn't have any in stock so he couldn't send a replacement. So I was thinking it was the battery and called LG after it seemed to get worse. They told me that they could replace the battery free of charge if I send in the one I'm using first. Since this is my only way of communication, I contacted AT&T again, and they're sending me another replacement. (Said if this one screw up too, they'll give me a different phone all together). The guy had me download some AT&T remote support app and he looked at the battery health and said it's reading fine, and that because it's reading fine, he didn't think it was the battery. :|
Here's the weird thing, about two weeks ago, it went into a bootloop. I took out the battery for a minute an tried to put it back in. Nothing. I plugged the charger into it and it basically told me that it didn't have enough juice to power on. (battery was at ~40%). So I took the battery back out and tried again. This time it came on.
Then last friday, I was jammin out to music while I was working, it would reboot when I unlocked the phone. (battery was in upper 90%'s). I plugged the charger in while it did this and everything came up as it should. But after taking it off the charger and trying to do more work, it happened again and again.
Like I said, this phone is straight from AT&T and has not had anything flashed onto it by me, hell I never even disabled all the AT&T bloat this time. I've tried a hard reset, and it didn't help. Does anybody know what would be the cause of my problems? I really like this phone and really hope I can get this figured out.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, the phone still has its IMEI number and it has the value pack update.
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If you want to stay on stock i recommend going to jellybean TOT 10k and rooting and installing a custom recovery back up the rom, and flash hkfriends kernel, and see what happens if you raise or lower your phones voltage, that might be the problem with it rebooting.
THE NEW BATTERY SOLVED THE ISSUE, BUT ONLY FOR A SHORT TIME. I upgraded to an HTC One M8 since, and haven't had hardly any problems with it, aside from the death star's BS
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THE NEW BATTERY SOLVED THE ISSUE, BUT ONLY FOR A SHORT TIME. I upgraded to an HTC One M8 since, and haven't had hardly any problems with it, aside from the death star's BS
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Thanks for the response. I talked to the techs at an AT&T direct service center and they told me it's a common problem with the Optimus Pro. I'm on my third one in 8 months now and this one started randomly powering off within 15 minutes of when I took it out of the box three days ago.
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Thanks for the response. I talked to the techs at an AT&T direct service center and they told me it's a common problem with the Optimus Pro. I'm on my third one in 8 months now and this one started randomly powering off within 15 minutes of when I took it out of the box three days ago.
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Yeah. My issue was the battery for sure. Make them replace the battery and it should temp solve the issue
From what I read on the first e980 i had these phone tend to have a hardware problem where the power button is creating the same issues as OP. Some refurbished e980s have the hardware problem solved.

Marshmallow broke my phone so I...

Installed CyanogenMOD and it still resets, locks up and has other performance related issues.
I did an OTA update to Marshmallow originally. This corrupted my SD card and then caused about 10 resets a day, ranging from when I was using it lightly to heavily or even when it was sleeping/screen off. If I woke it up it would reset or I could feel it reset when it was in my pocket.
First thing I did was a factory reset. I tried other tricks such as swapping out the battery, SD card (or none at all), clearing cache, etc.... Nothing worked. So I tried installing CyanogenMOD, and I failed. But I got the phone back to BPA1. I updated back to marshmallow via my computer and the Verizon software updater.
About a day later the resets and lockups came back. I kept it light of apps but did slowly begin to reinstall some of my usuals (from the play store).
I had some more time so I tried installing Cyan again and was successful. It took a long time to load and optimize but it worked. I used gapps mini and the only step I did not follow in the guide was I did not install xposed.
It's been running for about 12 hours and has hanged, locked up and rebooted on me multiple times. Chrome even locks up (it will stop resounding, I'll get the message asking if I want to wait or close at the same time it starts responding again.)
When it reboots, it still takes forever and even optimizes apps (that I assume have already been optimized). I've seen two boot screens for it, one the little alien guy and the other with gears turning. It did the gears the second time I booted and then I haven't seen them again.
I'm not sure what my next step should be. Maybe I'll try reflashing Cyanogen. I have a feeling it's a hardware issue at this point, but I'm open to ideas. Are there any good diagnostic tools that could help my situation?
The phone is out of warranty and I'm sure that now that I've installed Cyanogen, the warranty was voided anyway. It's a shame because this phone was perfect up until the marshmallow update. I probably had 5 lockup/boots in the year or two I've had it.
Why are you using cyanogenmod in the first place. The support for that has ended. Go to the lineage os nougat thread and use that instead.
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Why are you using cyanogenmod in the first place. The support for that has ended. Go to the lineage os nougat thread and use that instead.
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Admittedly, I did not even know about lineage until my phone was wiped with no OS. I did a quick Google search for it but could not find a Verizon note 4 mod. Now that I am not pressured to find a fix, I'll research it a bit more. Thank you.
I tried EmotionOS and NSeven, but both share the same error.
Emotion FCs random processes sporadically and then when my cell/data switches to Searching, it crashes multiple processes until the UI (trebuchet is default for Emotion?) and/or settings FCs and I have to restart. I am also stuck on 3G on that platform. I'm guessing network connectivity / switching is the root of the problems.
Nseven installed and right at the Welcome Screen where I pick my language, Google Play Services started crashing. I only had the option to click OK and then every 5 seconds after that, it kept crashing. I set up the phone, restarted and Google Play Services started crashing again. I am in the process of restoring back to Emotion, as it is the most stable platform so far.
I tried a new SIM card, hoping this was the problem but to no avail.
Does anyone have any other suggestions? I'm guessing its hardware at this point, but since it happened on an OTA Update and I can reproduce the same errors every time, I'm hoping there's still an option left for a fix.
Holy crap. As I was typing this and restoring Emotion, it fully installed and booted. I have 4G! I don't know if that will fix the FC issues, but I have regained a little hope!
I'm still getting FCs and restarts. The more I use it the more it happens, but at least with EmotionOS, It's more limited. Only about 3 or 4 a day compared to 10-20.
I'll try one more flash and I guess tough it out until my contract is up in April.
I can't help you with EmotionOS (haven't tried it yet), but if you want to stop the Google Play Services crashing in NSeven you can make your way to Settings - Applications, then select Google Play Services - Permissions and give it all permissions. It's a bit of a chore to get there when the warning pops up every five seconds, but it will stop once you do that.
So my plan is up and I'm probably switching away from Samsung after this incident. Looking into the pixel or XL. If the v20 is out for Verizon, I might get that but I'll see what looks good when I go to the store today or tomorrow.
I think I've narrowed down my issue to a heat issue. I fixed the 4g and Google play crashes but my phone still locks up or apps start a cascade of crashes. If I power down, I can't restart the phone. If I restart, it powers down but does not turn back on. I remove the battery for 10+ seconds, put it back in for 10+ seconds and it won't turn back on. I'll leave the battery out for minutes to an hour and its a crap shoot.
I can only boot normally or to download mode. TWRP no longer loads. I tried reflashing it and I get a no pit fail. I'd probably look into fixing this but at this point it's not worth it.
What I discovered works is putting the battery and phone on a cool surface, putting the battery back in and placing that on a cool surface and then try to boot up. However, neither my phone nor the battery feel warm to the touch. So that indicates to me something is either off in the sensors, preventing it from turning on or more likely it's a power issue or at least a hardware issue, preventing a constant current or something along those lines. Dips in power could explain apps crashing and the system inexplicably turning off. It would also explain why I can't turn it on easily.
It's really a shame because I liked this phone so much and if the new note was out, I might give it the benefit of the doubt. But last night my Samsung tablet decided to install the updates I've been putting off because they're the same ones that broke this phone. So timing wise, I'm done with Samsung and will try a new brand. Only issue I see with pixel is it doesn't have a removable battery so hopefully I don't run into this issue on that device!
Thanks for all the help xda. If it was a solvable problem, I'm sure I could have fixed it with your help.
Final entry.
I got the v20, and spent a day trying to get my note back to factory. I thought I was doing something wrong, but eventually flashed a kernel, recovery, bootloader and then full Rom (I think it was BPA1 but it could have been CPF3, I don't have it in front of me). I was getting error after error, no PIT partition, mmc check fail, use the Samsung Recovery Assistant, and a few others (again, it's not in front of me so I may have gotten it wrong). The big one was a write disk failure when I was trying to flash the full Rom. I fixed that by flashing kernel, bootloader, recovery, then sticking the battery and the phone on the freezer for ~5 minutes before trying to flash the full Rom.
I updated via USB after that using recovery assistant. Probably completely unnecessary, they just needed to get to the factory reset screen, but when I bought my phone, I couldn't trade in the note because i couldn't turn it on. They gave me $86 for it. Anything less and i would have considered just taking a hammer and microwave to it. Good riddance!
Still a little sad, I loved this phone right up until marshmallow dishonored and killed her.
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Final entry.
I got the v20, and spent a day trying to get my note back to factory. I thought I was doing something wrong, but eventually flashed a kernel, recovery, bootloader and then full Rom (I think it was BPA1 but it could have been CPF3, I don't have it in front of me). I was getting error after error, no PIT partition, mmc check fail, use the Samsung Recovery Assistant, and a few others (again, it's not in front of me so I may have gotten it wrong). The big one was a write disk failure when I was trying to flash the full Rom. I fixed that by flashing kernel, bootloader, recovery, then sticking the battery and the phone on the freezer for ~5 minutes before trying to flash the full Rom.
I updated via USB after that using recovery assistant. Probably completely unnecessary, they just needed to get to the factory reset screen, but when I bought my phone, I couldn't trade in the note because i couldn't turn it on. They gave me $86 for it. Anything less and i would have considered just taking a hammer and microwave to it. Good riddance!
Still a little sad, I loved this phone right up until marshmallow dishonored and killed her.
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I know a lot of people are blaming software, but I'm fairly certain that the problems in many cases are caused by failing hardware. I went through many of the same trials and tribulations with my Note 4 (except I never rooted the phone). I finally contacted Samsung Customer Support and sent the phone in for repair. They replaced a lot of the hardware including the motherboard and returned the phone in "like new" condition. I've been using it for a few weeks now and the performance is flawless.
I was planning to get either the V20 or the G6 if I wasn't able to get the phone fixed. How do you like the V20?
I'd agree that it's most likely hardware and having to put everything in the freezer for it to when confirms it for me although I have no real expertise to say so. But I'd argue that the update created the hardware issue, it was night and day with the update. It was working 100% and then directly after the update to marshmallow, it started having catastrophic issues. Oh well, it's nice not having to pull the battery every hour or so.
V20 is pretty nice. Having used EmotionOS for a few months the switch to the Nougat was pretty smooth. The xda forums for it are a little more limited but I didn't start messing with my phone until it broke and I'm hesitant to try with a new phone given my limited knowhow.
To be honest it's not a big difference in day to day usage from the note 4. Which I like!
+ I never used the finger print scanner but really like it on the v20. I didn't bother with a screen lock before but now I'm protected and have a just as quick access.
-the grip is too slick, I feel like I will drop it. The note had that rougher back which I liked better. A case or a replacement cover should fix that though.
+ I like this top menu screen, I have quick access to a few select apps or can turn the flashlight on or whatever. I'd like it more customizable, I find I switch screens too much when trying to just pull my top menu down. If I could put everything on one tab and combine their special buttons (ie the flashlight button) with apps, it would be perfect.
-the back button and menu button are switched. I can probably customize that but I don't yet know how and by the time I figure it out, I will have relearned that habit. It actually is probably a better placement for how I hold the phone but I'm a big fan of choices.
+ upgraded camera, sound, storage. I don't notice the screen size difference, but it is a lighter phone.
-bloatware
All in all its a good shift from the note 4. I'm happy to be off of Samsung and still have the same basic user experience.
trickyvinny said:
So my plan is up and I'm probably switching away from Samsung after this incident. Looking into the pixel or XL. If the v20 is out for Verizon, I might get that but I'll see what looks good when I go to the store today or tomorrow.
I think I've narrowed down my issue to a heat issue. I fixed the 4g and Google play crashes but my phone still locks up or apps start a cascade of crashes. If I power down, I can't restart the phone. If I restart, it powers down but does not turn back on. I remove the battery for 10+ seconds, put it back in for 10+ seconds and it won't turn back on. I'll leave the battery out for minutes to an hour and its a crap shoot.
I can only boot normally or to download mode. TWRP no longer loads. I tried reflashing it and I get a no pit fail. I'd probably look into fixing this but at this point it's not worth it.
What I discovered works is putting the battery and phone on a cool surface, putting the battery back in and placing that on a cool surface and then try to boot up. However, neither my phone nor the battery feel warm to the touch. So that indicates to me something is either off in the sensors, preventing it from turning on or more likely it's a power issue or at least a hardware issue, preventing a constant current or something along those lines. Dips in power could explain apps crashing and the system inexplicably turning off. It would also explain why I can't turn it on easily.
It's really a shame because I liked this phone so much and if the new note was out, I might give it the benefit of the doubt. But last night my Samsung tablet decided to install the updates I've been putting off because they're the same ones that broke this phone. So timing wise, I'm done with Samsung and will try a new brand. Only issue I see with pixel is it doesn't have a removable battery so hopefully I don't run into this issue on that device!
Thanks for all the help xda. If it was a solvable problem, I'm sure I could have fixed it with your help.
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I have had the exact same problem with my note 4. It wouldn't last 30 seconds at a lock screen from a cold battery before it would start boot looping, and the longer you left it in, the worse it got. Google told me I needed a new battery from several other forums and places I read. So I ordered one and replaced with a genuine Samsung one direct from them, and it didn't change anything.
I figured out it was heat related and I had it sit on an ice pack and it would run and work fine as long as the ice pack held out, about 2 hours. I've down graded, flashed, rooted the boot loader, installed a recovery console, flashed to different versions, all have the same problem. So I've kind of reserved myself to the fact it must be a hardware problem. Perhaps it was caused by the update, but nothing software change wise seems to be able to fix it. Did wake-loc fix as well. I've spent the last week with mine trying everything in the world and every evening having it on the ice pack hooked up trying whatever I could think of or read up on doing, and basically as soon as it warms up, it starts doing it again.
Heres a pic; http://imgur.com/a/5L64V
In my experience, it gets worse and worse. The day I bought my v20, I tried to trade it into Verizon but couldn't even turn it on in front of the rep. I thought I had timed the new phone perfectly but still wanted the $80! Fortunately I got it working after the weekend and just stuck everything in the freezer before I walked to Verizon.
trickyvinny said:
In my experience, it gets worse and worse. The day I bought my v20, I tried to trade it into Verizon but couldn't even turn it on in front of the rep. I thought I had timed the new phone perfectly but still wanted the $80! Fortunately I got it working after the weekend and just stuck everything in the freezer before I walked to Verizon.
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Just out of curiosity, what phone did you wind up going to?
The LG v20 and so far so good!

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