Please help me out here.
I can never find backups.
I recently realized the theres a "0" folder in every single "0" folder
And each one goes back in time a little, Which is where all of my older backups we're.
But when I make one now!
There's no backup folder.
Or anything within the TWRP folder but a weird file named TWRPS.something or something.
I deleted the 0 folder and it hasn't came back... I kinda figured it would.
I need a make a backup!!!!!
I've spent hours and hours and hours and hours setting up Paranoid Android.
YOU ALL KNOW how many per app color possibilities there are and how long it takes to make every single thing match.
Can someone please explain how the phone handles and places backups and why I can't seem to make one currently...
1. Use CWM, a lot easier IMO
2. Make sure you're using the LATEST version (6.0.2.3)
3. In 4.2.x, Google introduced the multi-user feature to Android (mainly for tablets). The first user is '0', second is '1', etc. As phones only use one user all data is moved to '0'. However, CWM still stores backups in the root (like it did in 4.1.x) so they are only visible in CWM UNLESS you use a root explorer (e.g. ES) to view the root directory and then you can find them in /data/media/clockworkmod. From there, you can delete/move them onto your '0' folder and then copy them to your PC to save space
EddyOS said:
1. Use CWM, a lot easier IMO
2. Make sure you're using the LATEST version (6.0.2.3)
3. In 4.2.x, Google introduced the multi-user feature to Android (mainly for tablets). The first user is '0', second is '1', etc. As phones only use one user all data is moved to '0'. However, CWM still stores backups in the root (like it did in 4.1.x) so they are only visible in CWM UNLESS you use a root explorer (e.g. ES) to view the root directory and then you can find them in /data/media/clockworkmod. From there, you can delete/move them onto your '0' folder and then copy them to your PC to save space
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Thank you, I guess I will switch to CWM I flashed it on a friends phone last night and it's a lot better than it was
2 years ago or so lol.
As long as your on the most current version of CWM or TWRP (loads better IMO) it fixed the nesting issues...
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0dBu said:
As long as your on the most current version of CWM or TWRP (loads better IMO) it fixed the nesting issues...
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I'm not sure what you mean by nesting but I have TWRP and evrytime I make a backup now it's not in the TWRP folder.
Nesting is the creation of 0 folders ie /0/0/0/0/0 etc. Updated recoveries prevent this so your backups will be in /0/twrp/ and not /0/0/twrp after flashing new rom
Bloods thicker than water
namtombout said:
Nesting is the creation of 0 folders ie /0/0/0/0/0 etc. Updated recoveries prevent this so your backups will be in /0/twrp/ and not /0/0/twrp after flashing new rom
Bloods thicker than water
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Okay That makes sense, I switched over to CWM and I'm on the newest version.
I read someone that backups are no longer accessable from other apps or a PC, So I can't drag em' to my laptop for safe keepings.
I see it on my phone... But once I plug up to the laptop I can't find anything.
Edit: never mind I looked up a little and saw the very detailed post by the Recognized Contributor.
Okay so I'm using the newest CWM, Along with the newest ROM manager.
apparently the only way to get my backups to my pc is to ADB pull them (not too educated in which)
Or use this backup download server which is SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!
It's still trying to recognize it, Hasn't even started downloading yet.
Anyone know a better way?
Usually I'm not so bent on having a backup on my pc but that's when I actually had a SD card.
Now that it's internal I don't trust it one bit, Google made the storage a damn maze with this 0 folder and the legacy folder and all that crap.
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As the title, is it normal if we get those folders after update to 4.2 ? Because as far as I read the problem when updating to 4.2 is only 0 folder.
I was using PA 2.54 that based on 4.1.2. I have installed latest TWRP. Then made a factory reset, after that I flashed PA 2.99. And it created those folders. Please help. Thanks.
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Ridho1 said:
As the title, is it normal if we get those folders after update to 4.2 ? Because as far as I read the problem when updating to 4.2 is only 0 folder.
I was using PA 2.54 that based on 4.1.2. I have installed latest TWRP. Then made a factory reset, after that I flashed PA 2.99. And it created those folders. Please help. Thanks.
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After reluctantly accepting the 4.2 ota, i also gained legacy and obb folders in data/media. I do have emulated showing, but im still confused at this point. Google made some waves.
bodh said:
After reluctantly accepting the 4.2 ota, i also gained legacy and obb folders in data/media. I do have emulated showing, but im still confused at this point. Google made some waves.
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and this is why I want a physical SD card in my phone... this emulated BS is driving me crazy today... over already accidentally deleted files thinking this so called linked directory was not a real directory ... it is in fact a fake directory with real actions... come on google... 1 directory to call home... not the multi linked mess of fake folders ....
/rant (GNexToro(HWv9)-TapTalk2)
Does anyone know what directories/folders are safe to delete? I have an entire duplicate of everything across two folders.
They reside here.
/storage/emulated/legacy/0/
/storage/emulated/0/0/
They are exact duplicates. Same size, etc.
Which is safe to remove? I searched for like a day on this forum, and many others. I have been trying to figure out which is safe to remove, but I am more confused now then ever. :silly:
I feel like just picking one to delete to free up space and if I muck up, I'll restore from a Nandroid.
The 0 folder is the new directory.
located at data/media/0
Created when you upgrade from 4.1.x to 4.2.1
The other folders you see are links to these folders, not duplicates of what you have stored in these folders.
Installing the latest recoverys will take care of the extra 0 folders ie 0/0/0
If you delete the folders from one of the link folders, you may delete the actual folders. They don't take up space.
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The 0 folder is the new directory.
located at data/media/0
Created when you upgrade from 4.1.x to 4.2.1
The other folders you see are links to these folders, not duplicates of what you have stored in these folders.
Installing the latest recoverys will take care of the extra 0 folders ie 0/0/0
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Hey, thanks for the reply.
I do have the latest recovery, but apparently if you updated to the latest CWM after moving to JB 4.2 you are still gonna get the folders. Updating before going to 4.2 would have prevented this. Well, this is what I get from reading other messages and forums.
So I am wondering if there is another way to sort these so it's not so confusing.
If not, I'll accept it and may roll back to 4.1, update my recovery, then flash the 4.2 rom.
and this is why I want a physical SD card in my phone... this emulated BS is driving me crazy today... over already accidentally deleted files thinking this so called linked directory was not a real directory ... it is in fact a fake directory with real actions... come on google... 1 directory to call home... not the multi linked mess of fake folders ....
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i'm still not sure what the actual presentation of the data loss that i heard about was, it wasnt people simply not finding the right path to the data was it? but i also dont get why so many people are so keen to remove a link to their internal memory. Why is it so bad for it to be there? just dont go into the folder
a lot of people seem to get that it is an exact mirror (it's just like a shortcut in windows), so just use one, and whats the bother?
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i'm still not sure what the actual presentation of the data loss that i heard about was, it wasnt people simply not finding the right path to the data was it? but i also dont get why so many people are so keen to remove a link to their internal memory. Why is it so bad for it to be there? just dont go into the folder
a lot of people seem to get that it is an exact mirror (it's just like a shortcut in windows), so just use one, and whats the bother?
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They arent exact mirrors. The fact that I have to go through four virtual SD cards to find something I downloaded that's buried in one of them. Its a total pain. Which one is the real one?
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Hey, thanks for the reply.
I do have the latest recovery, but apparently if you updated to the latest CWM after moving to JB 4.2 you are still gonna get the folders. Updating before going to 4.2 would have prevented this. Well, this is what I get from reading other messages and forums.
So I am wondering if there is another way to sort these so it's not so confusing.
If not, I'll accept it and may roll back to 4.1, update my recovery, then flash the 4.2 rom.
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From what i see, reverting back to 4.1 won't do it.
You have to go back to a particular stock 4.1 then install latest CWM recovery. untested by me. There is a guide around but i've lost the link.
For me I did a full manual wipe of everything (including SD card), then a manual reinstall of cwm and a 4.2 rom.
I have a 0 folder, but i don't have a 0/0/0 folder created when switching between roms.
Need someone clever to write a clear guide and have it stickied
I too would be interested to know if a solution has been found yet. My legacy folder is taking up more than half of my internal storage. Is it safe to delete?
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I didn't think my dirs were duplicated at first, and the other day I investigated more. One directory structure looks exactly the same, but when I went thru the diff folders and compared between the two, alot of the folders didn't have the same contents. Some folders were even empty and it's clone had data in it, settings and whatnot.
I may post a screenshot once my phone is charged.
/emulated/legacy/0/0/
Is completely different from
/emulated/legacy/0/
The data is diff sizes if you compare both of those folders.
Why Android went this way by setting user accounts/profiles is beyond me.
Here is an example pic. I am not going to take screenshots of everything tho, obviously.
On the left all the folders and data is older then the data in the directory on the right, so I am thinking it is probably safe to delete the older data.
Any ideas?
Here is another example.
What is in the legacy folder on right, is totally diff from what is on the left, but in this case, the data on the left is now the newest data, where the right has no data at all.
Just noticed /emulated/legacy/0/0/0/ also has totally diff contents then the first two I mentioned and the folders vary in size dramatically.
It's a bit frustrating.
EDIT: Added another pic.
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Here is another example.
What is in the legacy folder on right, is totally diff from what is on the left, but in this case, the data on the left is now the newest data, where the right has no data at all.
Just noticed /emulated/legacy/0/0/0/ also has totally diff contents then the first two I mentioned and the folders vary in size dramatically.
It's a bit frustrating.
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Please correct me if im wrong in my thinking. Its normal if I flash from 4.2 (for a day or to) then flash back using a nandroid to 4.1 to have a left over 0folder sitting in my main storage SDcard0?
So when im back on 4.1 I have Sdcard0/0 thats where it ends for me as of now. I flash back and forth all the time. I also get legacy folders but as of yet there always emty. The 0folders left over (mind you im on 4.1) im only testing 4.2 but the left over folder 0 does contain a lot of folders though only data is located in the duplicate android folder.
Questions so being that im on 4.1.2 again what do I do with the left over folders? Up till now I just use windows copy them over and let all the folders merge. Seems to work most the time but It can cause issues.... there gotta be better way? How come I get left over crap in a 0 folder every dang time I flash back from 4.2 to 4.1
Thats normal? Oh BTW im on newest TWRP installed from GOO. I am running Jellybam 4.1.2 I don't delete folders just merge them back into my other folders but maybe I shouldn't do this?
I dunno when im on 4.2 I don't have any issues except that I think this concept is some stupid guys idea of trying way way to hard to be smart. Smoked a little ot much weed before he came to work ya know?
Please
1. What do we do about 0 doler / legacy folder when we flash back to 4.1
2. Whats normal... what should we except when flashing from 4.1 to 4.2 assuming we have newest TWRP or CWM
3. Anything else you think you should add
4. whats your home launcher
peace
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Please correct me if im wrong in my thinking. Its normal if I flash from 4.2 (for a day or to) then flash back using a nandroid to 4.1 to have a left over 0folder sitting in my main storage SDcard0?
So when im back on 4.1 I have Sdcard0/0 thats where it ends for me as of now. I flash back and forth all the time. I also get legacy folders but as of yet there always emty. The 0folders left over (mind you im on 4.1) im only testing 4.2 but the left over folder 0 does contain a lot of folders though only data is located in the duplicate android folder.
Questions so being that im on 4.1.2 again what do I do with the left over folders? Up till now I just use windows copy them over and let all the folders merge. Seems to work most the time but It can cause issues.... there gotta be better way? How come I get left over crap in a 0 folder every dang time I flash back from 4.2 to 4.1
Thats normal? Oh BTW im on newest TWRP installed from GOO. I am running Jellybam 4.1.2 I don't delete folders just merge them back into my other folders but maybe I shouldn't do this?
I dunno when im on 4.2 I don't have any issues except that I think this concept is some stupid guys idea of trying way way to hard to be smart. Smoked a little ot much weed before he came to work ya know?
Please
1. What do we do about 0 doler / legacy folder when we flash back to 4.1
2. Whats normal... what should we except when flashing from 4.1 to 4.2 assuming we have newest TWRP or CWM
3. Anything else you think you should add
4. whats your home launcher
peace
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I use Apex Launcher but you don't see it in the images. I think you are referring to FlashFXP which is a file manager I use to move files and folders between my PC and my phone, and to move files and folders between diff folders on the device itself by connecting to my phone in two instances.
It's my understanding the "0" folders are designated for the different user accounts.
If you go to JB 4.2. and then go back to 4.1 I believe the files from your 4.2 install remain intact(Or at least the file structure). No data is actually wiped unless you intentionally do so.
Now, I am just someone who flashes casually and I wouldn't consider myself an expert. I am confident in my skills, just not at a point where I can say anything with serious conviction. So your mileage may vary.
I actually found out which set of folders were the ones in use, and I ended up doing a nandroid, and then deleting everything else on my phone to be safe. I have rebooted several times and haven't had any issues. This was a few days ago.
Remember too, if you restore from an older nandroid from a prior firmware version it will roll back whatever kernal you currently have, etc. It basically brings your phone to the exact state it was in when you did the backup.
Good luck with whatever you do! :cyclops:
AHHHHHHH All my precious data on internal sdcard GONE. All because of the stupid linked legacy folder! I was just trying to delete 1 duplicated (or so I thought) mp3 file, then Google had to come into the action and screw everything over!
I'm done! I'm done with all this BS. I can't even sleep properly! Just let me enjoy my summer
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AHHHHHHH All my precious data on internal sdcard GONE. All because of the stupid linked legacy folder! I was just trying to delete 1 duplicated (or so I thought) mp3 file, then Google had to come into the action and screw everything over!
I'm done! I'm done with all this BS. I can't even sleep properly! Just let me enjoy my summer
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If you just deleted one file... how did literally all of your data get erased?
I... what
tritonesub said:
If you just deleted one file... how did literally all of your data get erased?
I... what
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I deleted the undetectable, sneaky, linked legacy/emulated folder because it was in /sdcard. So it portrayed itself as another folder, but in it's entirety was the /sdcard itself masquerading as emulated/legacy causing ones mind to think it is an expendable piece of foolery. Linked folder(/sdcard->emulated) contains emulated folder which links sdcard, but it was placed in sdcard so it's entire existence is invalid. Inception eh.
gpfnzl said:
The 0 folder is the new directory.
located at data/media/0
Created when you upgrade from 4.1.x to 4.2.1
The other folders you see are links to these folders, not duplicates of what you have stored in these folders.
Installing the latest recoverys will take care of the extra 0 folders ie 0/0/0
If you delete the folders from one of the link folders, you may delete the actual folders. They don't take up space.
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thank you for this, finally i found where to hunt down the folders taking up space on the storage and delete that ****, now i have more room on the internal memory.:good:
tomh1979 said:
thank you for this, finally i found where to hunt down the folders taking up space on the storage and delete that ****, now i have more room on the internal memory.:good:
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Could you give us all a pointer as to which folders you found safe to delete--I'm sure that we could all do with getting that bit of extra storage??
Hey,
I went back to 4.1.2 (JellyBam) after using 4.2.1 (PA ROM). But there's a 0 folder inside my internal memory folder which leads to all my real files (music, pics etc etc).
So it's like.
-sdcard0
.....-0 (Folder)
..........-DCIM
..........-Downloads
..........-Music
..........-Titanium Backup
..........-etc etc etc
.....+'Music' which is empty
.....+'Downloads' which is empty
.....+etc etc etc
I searched on XDA, but the only solutions I found were:
1. copy every file to my computer, delete the 0 file (or not) and then put the copied files from my computer onto my phone. But there was no progress in the copying process as it was freezing.
2. Format everything, recovery, and some other things I didn't understand.
So I came here asking for help. Hopefully someone knows any other answer.
P.S. I know I can just chance the location of my backed-up files from TB, so there's no problem in that case.
But it is just annoying and sometimes it confuses me.
Thanks in advance :good:
I'm thinking of the same I'm not digging 4.2.1 that much.
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I believe in 4.2 the /0 folder is the new location for the pseudo SD card instead of under /storage/
That's 4.2+ file structure to support multiuser and mentioned in dozens of threads. Just learn to live with it. Google knows what they're doing.
Meh well that's gonna be 4.2.1 for me...this is way too annoying with the files and folders
Rapydax said:
Meh well that's gonna be 4.2.1 for me...this is way too annoying with the files and folders
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how is it annoying? you dont see really anything different other than going 1 more folder deeper.
Zepius said:
how is it annoying? you dont see really anything different other than going 1 more folder deeper.
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Because change is bad obviously. Especially when it adds features.
Zepius said:
how is it annoying? you dont see really anything different other than going 1 more folder deeper.
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I went back to CM10 (4.1.2) from CM10.1 (4.2.1) and just found it easiest to backup all my files and format the storage. Windows wasnt seeing the storage correctly until after I did that.
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I went back to CM10 (4.1.2) from CM10.1 (4.2.1) and just found it easiest to backup all my files and format the storage. Windows wasnt seeing the storage correctly until after I did that.
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How'd you do this? I'm curious to try the cm10.
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What recovery are you using?
The issue is with resets and CWM recovery. The problem is your app back ups get covered under 0,0,0 and can't be restored, music apps can't see music, gallery can't see pics etc.
Switch to TWRP Open Recovery and the 0 problem goes away.
Best way to get your SD back in line is to use your PC to move everything back up where it should be. Hope this helps, freaked me out when I thought I lost my SD.
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I think some of you aren't understanding the OP's question. He doesn't dislike the /0 file structure (or maybe he does, but I don't think that's the point he's making), he just doesn't want to keep it when downgrading to 4.1.2. That's perfectly understandable to me, and actually something I've been thinking about for a couple weeks.
OP- You have a few options. I think the simplest is to go ahead and flash a 4.1.2 ROM, then use a file explorer on the phone to cut from the /0 directory and paste straight into the main sdcard directory. Option 2 is to use a PC and cut and paste the same thing, but I don't know how quick it would be. Another possibility is to copy everything off your phone onto your PC, then format the storage on your phone, then copy everything from the PC back to /sdcard/. This is probably the cleanest and safest option, but also slowest. I'm sure there is also a way to do it with ADB, where you cut and paste from /0 to /sdcard/, but I'm no good with ADB so somebody else would have to give you the commands. ADB is most likely going to be the fastest method as far as file copy progress, but that's only a guess. I'm sure there are several other options I'm not aware of, but those are the ones I've thought of while thinking of doing this on my phone.
Good luck! Let me know which works for you and how it works........
I went back to a 4.1 ROM at one point and it did not immediately move everything back where it could be seen even with the latest recovery. I found that the easiest fix was to plug the phone into my computer right after the first boot and then move the data to the right folders with adb. Very quick and painless. TWRP does the fix going from 4.1 to 4.2 very nicely.
Downgrading to 4.1.2 from 4.2.1
I'm downgrading because I'm have a ton of blue tooth issues. I'm currently backing up my SD to my laptop then from win explorer I'll copy everything from /0 to the top SD directory. It's not any fun at all.
I wonder how many people will actually use the multiple users on their phone/tablet?
\m/
:cyclops:
Tablet - maybe
Phone - probably not
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Hi all, I just wanted someone to help me with some confusion I have about the internal memory of the galaxy nexus
I'm aware there's obviously no SD card however inside the storage section there seems to be a folder called sdcard0 which has all my usual sub folders in it. However, when I tried to restore with TB after flashing a ROM earlier I couldn't and when I checked it was because the TB folder on sdcard0 was completely empty, as well as all the others. What I also found was that there is a sub folder like all the others, except it's called "0" and has exactly the same folders as sdcard0! This is where I'm confused, the TB folder inside 0 has all my backup data but in the app it doesn't recognise there's anything to restore and some help on this would also be appreciated if anyone could help me with this issue and maybe explain how this 0 folder has been created I'd be very grateful, thanks again
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Use the search function next time.
Sdcard0 is related to 4.2+ multi user feature. 0 is essentially admin. Having multiple 0 folders means you flashed a 4.2 rom on an outdated recovery that didn't handle it correctly. Move the folders into the main 0 and delete the extra. Then update your recovery.
4.2 have multiuser support and the 0 is for the first user.
Though it is only on tablets you can actually create other users, at least on stock
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what the other guys said!
path forward: either update your recovery and then manually move over all the data from sdcard0/0 to sdcard0/ or if you dont want to do that you can simply open TiBackup and change the location of the folder of the backups. Option is available in TiBackup Preferences.
DZYR said:
what the other guys said!
path forward: either update your recovery and then manually move over all the data from sdcard0/0 to sdcard0/ or if you dont want to do that you can simply open TiBackup and change the location of the folder of the backups. Option is available in TiBackup Preferences.
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That's terrible advice. The extra 0 folder will only cause issues down the road and should be gotten rid of asap.
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That's terrible advice. The extra 0 folder will only cause issues down the road and should be gotten rid of asap.
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In addition to this, it was bad advice as it was suggesting the file structure change be done at the sdcard0 level. The entire SDCard file structure is based out of /data/media. This is where the manual changes should be made (for instance, moving everything from /data/media/0/0/0 to /data/media/0). After making the change, reboot. The fuse mount points and symlinks will then properly reflect the change. It's always safest to make this drastic of a change at the base, physical data location, rather than on a fuse mount point or a symlink of a fuse mount point.
Also, as previously suggested, update your recovery. The current versions of CWR and TWRP have this issue resolved.
I have been having a bit of a problem with my Galaxy Nexus and its driving me nuts because of the storage situation..
Up until a couple weeks ago, I had the latest (at that time) version of AOKP on the phone (4.1.?, JB build 2 possibly). Then, around the first of the year, they updated to their 4.2 version JB-MR1 Build 1. The first time I installed the ROM, I installed it with the wrong GAPPS, ICS vs JB, and the phone went all haywire. I tried to get into the SD card to check which GAPPS was installed, but there were SO many force closes, I couldn't do anything. I rebooted into recovery, tried to go to my SD card, but ALL my info was gone. Basically a clean SD card.
So, I within minutes, I restored back to what I was on and everything was happy. No problems. I then downloaded the right GAPPS, installed the new ROM and GAPPS and everything worked great. Happy happy joy joy..
Today, I went to do a restore and remove some old backups and again, there is a second SD card. There is the normal one, and one labeled under /0/ in the directory.
I can access that directory while in recovery, but cannot with root explorer (or via my computers explorer) to erase it. The problem is, I think it is doubled up my photos and media, and now the card is full..
So, long story just to ask, how can I get rid of this other SD card directory? When talking with a co-worker, he mentioned it creates another directory when a second profile gets created..something I never did.
Any thoughts on how to get this removed so I can have my space back?
MikeDaub said:
I have been having a bit of a problem with my Galaxy Nexus and its driving me nuts because of the storage situation..
Up until a couple weeks ago, I had the latest (at that time) version of AOKP on the phone (4.1.?, JB build 2 possibly). Then, around the first of the year, they updated to their 4.2 version JB-MR1 Build 1. The first time I installed the ROM, I installed it with the wrong GAPPS, ICS vs JB, and the phone went all haywire. I tried to get into the SD card to check which GAPPS was installed, but there were SO many force closes, I couldn't do anything. I rebooted into recovery, tried to go to my SD card, but ALL my info was gone. Basically a clean SD card.
So, I within minutes, I restored back to what I was on and everything was happy. No problems. I then downloaded the right GAPPS, installed the new ROM and GAPPS and everything worked great. Happy happy joy joy..
Today, I went to do a restore and remove some old backups and again, there is a second SD card. There is the normal one, and one labeled under /0/ in the directory.
I can access that directory while in recovery, but cannot with root explorer (or via my computers explorer) to erase it. The problem is, I think it is doubled up my photos and media, and now the card is full..
So, long story just to ask, how can I get rid of this other SD card directory? When talking with a co-worker, he mentioned it creates another directory when a second profile gets created..something I never did.
Any thoughts on how to get this removed so I can have my space back?
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Android 4.2 has a multiuser framework.
The "0" folder you are seeing is the first user.
Although it's only possible to create more users on tablets without tweaks
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Lord Yurij said:
Android 4.2 has a multiuser framework.
The "0" folder you are seeing is the first user.
Although it's only possible to create more users on tablets without tweaks
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Am I crazy saying that it could be taking up a couple gbs of space on my card? It seems that since this started up, my SD is almost full.
Any idea how to merge, or remove that? I can only access the 0 folder while in recovery, and no other time.
They put in symlinks to the folder so you can access it from different directories. The information shouldn't be doubled unless you personally did it.
Reading this might help you understand:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107194
Lord Yurij said:
Android 4.2 has a multiuser framework.
The "0" folder you are seeing is the first user.
Although it's only possible to create more users on tablets without tweaks
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eqjunkie829 said:
They put in symlinks to the folder so you can access it from different directories. The information shouldn't be doubled unless you personally did it.
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Thanks for the everything and helping me understand...
I did not copy over anything to that directory, and in fact cannot even access it outside of Recovery. It just looked to me that things were copied over by the file structure, which is why I thought it duplicated things. It just seemed odd to me that when all this happened, my SD card seemed to get much fuller..
Thanks again..
MikeDaub said:
Thanks for the everything and helping me understand...
I did not copy over anything to that directory, and in fact cannot even access it outside of Recovery. It just looked to me that things were copied over by the file structure, which is why I thought it duplicated things. It just seemed odd to me that when all this happened, my SD card seemed to get much fuller..
Thanks again..
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Late but useful info for "the next guy". When you install 4.2 its creates a multi-user environment, correct. And you do loose half your space (assuming it was full when you upgraded). Here's why. In 4.2 there is only /data/media which is where your internal SD card (sdcard) is symlinked to (ie: the actual location of your files). When you install 4.2, all of /data/media is copied to /data/media/0 for the first user, then /data/media/11 for the second user, then /data/media/12 for the third user and so forth. Each user gets their own /data/media directory which has all the files that the single user had in 4.1 For each user you add, say its only yourself, you just lost half your space because /data/media still exists but now so does /data/media/0 (a duplicate copy). So you sdcard's space is divided by the number of user accounts your system has installed in 4.2. Hope this clarifies things.
elfaure said:
Late but useful info for "the next guy". When you install 4.2 its creates a multi-user environment, correct. And you do loose half your space (assuming it was full when you upgraded). Here's why. In 4.2 there is only /data/media which is where your internal SD card (sdcard) is symlinked to (ie: the actual location of your files). When you install 4.2, all of /data/media is copied to /data/media/0 for the first user, then /data/media/11 for the second user, then /data/media/12 for the third user and so forth. Each user gets their own /data/media directory which has all the files that the single user had in 4.1 For each user you add, say its only yourself, you just lost half your space because /data/media still exists but now so does /data/media/0 (a duplicate copy). So you sdcard's space is divided by the number of user accounts your system has installed in 4.2. Hope this clarifies things.
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Thanks. After a bunch of research, that is what is happening, and why my phone is always full of "stuff" now.
Now, if I could only access the /0 folders from my desktop...then I would be set..
MikeDaub said:
Thanks. After a bunch of research, that is what is happening, and why my phone is always full of "stuff" now.
Now, if I could only access the /0 folders from my desktop...then I would be set..
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you do. its what you see when you plug your phone in.
if you have a old recovery and are flashing roms, it will create multiple /0 folders.
Zepius said:
you do. its what you see when you plug your phone in.
if you have a old recovery and are flashing roms, it will create multiple /0 folders.
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If that is the case, I would like to access the standard folder, the copy, or original, or whatever the none /0 folder is..
MikeDaub said:
If that is the case, I would like to access the standard folder, the copy, or original, or whatever the none /0 folder is..
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then you need root to explore /data/media/
Zepius said:
then you need root to explore /data/media/
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Right. I would just find it handy to do via my desktop...
MikeDaub said:
If that is the case, I would like to access the standard folder, the copy, or original, or whatever the none /0 folder is..
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"/data/media/" and "/storage/sdcard0/" or even just "/sdcard/" are the same thing. You dont have copies of files on your phone. If you delete it in one location, it deletes in the other because they are the same. You have the "0" folders on "storage/sdcard0" as well. If you do happen to have copies of files, you can organize it all on your computer if you plug in your phone.
MikeDaub said:
Thanks. After a bunch of research, that is what is happening, and why my phone is always full of "stuff" now.
Now, if I could only access the /0 folders from my desktop...then I would be set..
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So i was on g2 apps v5.5 rom for some time when all of a sudden my media stopped scanning, i wasnt sure why, rescan media apps werent working either, so i decided to flash a new rom and i chose candykat, since then all of my files that i used to have, pictures, videos, etc have completely vanished. i cant locate the files in 7 zipper, es file explorer, and media scan apps still bring me nothing. Yet my internal storage still has the same amount of space used that it did before, and also when i go into CWM and choose install a zip it shows all the folders and things that i am missing, but that is the only place i see the folders but i dont have access to my files from cwm. Also i have noticed that when i am on 7zipper looking through files my internal storage says storage/emoulated/0 and i have no idea what the emulated is about, if anyone has any info or knows what im talking about please to help, Im not too great with phone stuff but i am okay, so if anyone has any simplified steps to give me on how to fix this issue it would be appriciated, thank you.
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Just do some searching mate. And use ROOT EXPLORER and give it access.
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So i was on g2 apps v5.5 rom for some time when all of a sudden my media stopped scanning, i wasnt sure why, rescan media apps werent working either, so i decided to flash a new rom and i chose candykat, since then all of my files that i used to have, pictures, videos, etc have completely vanished. i cant locate the files in 7 zipper, es file explorer, and media scan apps still bring me nothing. Yet my internal storage still has the same amount of space used that it did before, and also when i go into CWM and choose install a zip it shows all the folders and things that i am missing, but that is the only place i see the folders but i dont have access to my files from cwm. Also i have noticed that when i am on 7zipper looking through files my internal storage says storage/emoulated/0 and i have no idea what the emulated is about, if anyone has any info or knows what im talking about please to help, Im not too great with phone stuff but i am okay, so if anyone has any simplified steps to give me on how to fix this issue it would be appriciated, thank you.
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The way Kitkat makes the "SDcard"/"Internal Storage" directory is different from how it was on Jelly bean. <--EDIT: By this, I mean that the directory path is different.
The card is reading that X amount of data is on the card, yet you can't see it because your files are technically still there, but under the old directory path.
There are a couple of ways to fix this, but the EASIEST (IMO) way is to first restore a JB Nandroid backup (you can backup your KK ROM first if desired). First thing you'll notice is that the files will be there again. Now, plug your phone into your computer and copy all the files to it.
Reboot into recovery and format the internal SD. It's best to do it from within recovery, because otherwise, JB will just recreate the JB file structure and immediately start saving stuff to it. So when you get to KK, there will once again be the old structure hidden and with some files taking up space.
Now either reflash your KK rom or restore your KK backup.
Boot it up and copy your files back to the phone.
*I ran into this same issue after flashing KK for the first time. This is the exact process I did to resolve it.
Another way is to use a root file browser and locate the old directory and copy everything over to the new one. However, I think this might take quite a long time since the phone can do this only so fast.
spexwood said:
The way Kitkat makes the "SDcard"/"Internal Storage" directory is different from how it was on Jelly bean. <--EDIT: By this, I mean that the directory path is different.
The card is reading that X amount of data is on the card, yet you can't see it because your files are technically still there, but under the old directory path.
There are a couple of ways to fix this, but the EASIEST (IMO) way is to first restore a JB Nandroid backup (you can backup your KK ROM first if desired). First thing you'll notice is that the files will be there again. Now, plug your phone into your computer and copy all the files to it.
Reboot into recovery and format the internal SD. It's best to do it from within recovery, because otherwise, JB will just recreate the JB file structure and immediately start saving stuff to it. So when you get to KK, there will once again be the old structure hidden and with some files taking up space.
Now either reflash your KK rom or restore your KK backup.
Boot it up and copy your files back to the phone.
*I ran into this same issue after flashing KK for the first time. This is the exact process I did to resolve it.
Another way is to use a root file browser and locate the old directory and copy everything over to the new one. However, I think this might take quite a long time since the phone can do this only so fast.
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Okay, thank you, I will try that soon and see if it works.