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[Q] Memory management

Hi Arc Users,
Do you guys encounter low memory after long period of usage? It seems like the memory does not free up after using the phone for a long time. I mainly use the phone for FB, Camera and messaging.
When the phone hits like 50+MB ram or so it starts to slow down and if it goes lower than 40MB my home screen starts to lag and the app icons take a few secs to load every time i return to home screen. I'll usually reboot the phone but its quite a pain considering the boot timing for my phone is rather long, like close to 1 min.
What are the possible solutions? I've heard that advanced task killers are unnecessary for Gingerbread. If thats the case, how do I free up more memory or have better memory management for the Arc?
Am a first time android user, appreciate any advice from you guys
Thanks!

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Root is the solution. Delete apps and services which you do not use.
I haven't any problem either when free ram goes down to 30MB and i don't use a taskiller.

Just what are you doing when you run out of ram? Never did I run out of ram yet. Running ram hungry games will free up more what is needed as I experienced. When I return to homescreen, it takes a while (around 2 secs) because it will free up ram from the game, then load the homescreen launcher from start/scratch.

Same here but my Arc works fine, even with 30-40MB RAM, so it isn't a real problem.
But it would be nice from SE to make 400-450MB of the 512MB RAM available for the user.
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Flo95 said:
But it would be nice from SE to make 400-450MB of the 512MB RAM available for the user.
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What? That is a completely pointless excercise if you understand how ram is handled by the os.
You need to root and remove bloat, check ya settings etc to get better performance. I found letting things constantly access the network was a juice eater, I don't want fb to check every 4 seconds, I update it when I want to read it lol
I use a task manager, but only because I like to see what is running and using resources. I rarely actually kill any apps, just occasionally a few things I rarely use. Even then it fills the space with other stuff.
:edit: sorry flo95, that sounded a bit crappy, no bad attitude was intended.
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This is the solution...https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&feature=search_result
not a task killer... a memory manager that enhances googles memory management.

mariolouis said:
Just what are you doing when you run out of ram? Never did I run out of ram yet. Running ram hungry games will free up more what is needed as I experienced. When I return to homescreen, it takes a while (around 2 secs) because it will free up ram from the game, then load the homescreen launcher from start/scratch.
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I do not play games with my Arc. I just used facebook, MSN, Camera and messaging occasionally throughout the day. Medium usage.
It runs smoothly for several days but maybe after a week or two, the RAM starts to get low.
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This is the solution...
not a task killer... a memory manager that enhances googles memory management.
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Thanks! Working so far... will monitor after a week or so.

Try a cache cleaner also will free up some space for ya
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I use battery guard as a task killer. It comes with a widget where you can see the available amount of ram.
I'm happy about it. Though a lot of people say a task killer doesn't help I have no negative experience using this one... and I never go below 130 ram.
I still think it does help to close tasks that otherwise keep running in the background... But I'm new on android so I could be wrong.

Hey guys
Have you tried this script
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111145
maybe this can help w/o having to install apps or task-killers. Should work on Xperia Arc but I don't guarantee it.

That script seems to do basically the same thing as auto memory manager.. (per my previous post..)..
PS.. I currently have mine set to aggressive.

[Q] about nfs hot pursuit?

when i play this game, it just come into intro n go out to home screen...
i know if it's RAM issue, cause i have only 125 mb left ram, can you give advice to get more RAM?,
i used supercharger v6, it's make my xplay smooth, but my ram is not enough to play that game, and i don't want to unistall some aplication, give me some advice, please....

http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2011/02/02/android-force-moving-apps-to-an-sd-card/
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mathacer said:
when i play this game, it just come into intro n go out to home screen...
i know if it's RAM issue, cause i have only 125 mb left ram, can you give advice to get more RAM?,
i used supercharger v6, it's make my xplay smooth, but my ram is not enough to play that game, and i don't want to unistall some aplication, give me some advice, please....
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Why only 125MB left, what all apps are you running, I am running Stock kernel w/o any RAM tweaks and I generally have about 150 - 175Megs of Free RAM.
With this the Game runs pretty smooth and have seen no issues so far, just check the avail memory before starting game in Settings and stop some apps which u don't need and then run the game.
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Root your phone then install titanium backup or systemCleanUp from maarket and delete widgets and system apps that you don't use
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Try this app Ram Managerand choose HARD GAMING and apply it then run NFS (needs root)

i had that problem to try to reinstall
greets,
Nickholtus

m2maddy said:
Why only 125MB left, what all apps are you running, I am running Stock kernel w/o any RAM tweaks and I generally have about 150 - 175Megs of Free RAM.
With this the Game runs pretty smooth and have seen no issues so far, just check the avail memory before starting game in Settings and stop some apps which u don't need and then run the game.
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Xperia-Play said:
Root your phone then install titanium backup or systemCleanUp from maarket and delete widgets and system apps that you don't use
OR
Try this app Ram Managerand choose HARD GAMING and apply it then run NFS (needs root)
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ICXPlay said:
i had that problem to try to reinstall
greets,
Nickholtus
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I use stock launcher, some widgets in 3 home screen includes timescape widget, pictures widget, music, n some shortcut, aplication in background: kaspersky mobile, call recorder, equalizer, n task killer n fb inside xperia...
i try to instal launcher pro n make it default launcher, i get 200 Mb free Ram, but still can't play this game ...
try to reinstal .apk n redownload data, but no clues, still can't play, wtf...
any advice again?

[Ask]Hiw i can Optimize my RAM

Hi i want to ask
How to optimize my phone RAM i use v6 supercharger but my ram is still 163mb
I use 4 messenger Catfizz,Line,yahoo,facebook
Thanks before:beer::beer:
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Use adrenaline engine
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Technically, it's hard to tell the difference performance-wise. Android does it's own memory management, but also it won't hurt anyone if you try RAM tweaks and see the result for yourself.

Chamiakas said:
Technically, it's hard to tell the difference performance-wise. Android does it's own memory management, but also it won't hurt anyone if you try RAM tweaks and see the result for yourself.
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remove facebook, yahoo, and all other apps that runs on the background,
even if you have v6, the apps still runs in the memory
no matter what ram tweak you do if you have background hog memory apps and due to the limitation of our device you shall fail

deathnotice01 said:
remove facebook, yahoo, and all other apps that runs on the background,
even if you have v6, the apps still runs in the memory
no matter what ram tweak you do if you have background hog memory apps and due to the limitation of our device you shall fail
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I did not quite get that you said there, but I didin't encounter a single problem due to low RAM. Of course it can be because I don't usually run a lot of apps at once.

Thx but i very loves facebook app
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if you are much conscious about ram then never use and go product they are the hogger beast
check every app's ram consumption then you their alternative with less ram consumption
if you love ics keyboard, then there are 2, one uses about 10 mb and other uses about 20 mb

Chamiakas said:
I did not quite get that you said there, but I didin't encounter a single problem due to low RAM. Of course it can be because I don't usually run a lot of apps at once.
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even if you don't run the app, they actually run on the background doing things you don't know, consuming your battery and your ram

Death notice can u make a theme for M.U.R v2 with blacksense?thanks
:beer::beer::beer::beer:
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deathnotice01 said:
even if you don't run the app, they actually run on the background doing things you don't know, consuming your battery and your ram
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Well, thats true, but the RAM is meant to be cached (fully used) for quickly launching the desired application.

Best way to optimize RAM for starters is to monitor your background, cached and running processes well. First, freeze stock background running bloatware using TB. Mainly DRM content (some say it messes with ringtones and stuff but I never experienced that), wsynclmps, syncmIDs, maps (unfreeze it only when needede), software update(this really doesnt help and is waste of RAM+space), pico TTS , TTS service(these two are for voice to text conversion and are literally not much used), samsung account(is waste compared to play store), two email ones (use gmail app these dont help much), social hub , samsung push service.Choose adrenaline engine if you want multi tasking and v6 if you want more free ram.You can mix both of them but its risky and needs some scripting skills to remove the conflicts they make and highly NOT recommended.

Chamiakas said:
Well, thats true, but the RAM is meant to be cached (fully used) for quickly launching the desired application.
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completely agree with this one. less ram is not alway a good news in android system since it has unique RAM management. for quick acces and less RAM r/w some of app is stored in RAM's cache. SGY's default ram setting is already good enough for multitasking and gaming option. if you want a better performance in your device you don't need lesser RAM. instead of it you need a better memory and app management.

Thnks i use lessly ram now 121
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[Q] Lag in Games with NXT 1.3 Rom on Xperia Play

Hello to everyone, i have installed a custom rom for my Xperia Play with Locked Bootloader, the Custom Rom is NXT 1.3 and its performance in games was excellent newly installed, but when i started to install my apps or restore my apps the performance felt. So i thought that was ocurred cause was filling up the internal memory, so I put most of the applications on the SD card and some go to the ROM, but the performance doesn't improve as well, i read and a i have try different things like install Ram Manager Pro to free more RAM in games, to Use Task killer for Tasks in Ejecution and i dont see an considerable change in its performance. So Can i do for play more smooth?
The another thing is the NXT 1.3 have Busybox and support for scripts Init.d but i try to use an option for swap but maybe my stock kernel dont support it and another option for max size aplication's data in Ram Manager Pro ask me for busybox as if i didnt installed it, and i don't know why.
Thank yo
PD: Sorry for my poor English cause my native language is Spanish. XD

you need to overclock your rom.
here is the link for download No-frills CPU Control (i use this one): https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wOSwiaXQuc2luZW8uYW5kcm9pZC5ub0ZyaWxsc0NQVSJd
After download that overclock it to: Max - 1,709 Ghz | Min - 249 Mhz | Governor - smartassV2 | I/Oscheduler - sio

Bullsh*t with overclocking. My phone runs smooth in the games with 800-900 MHz. Just flash lupus gb kernel...
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olokos said:
Bullsh*t with overclocking. My phone runs smooth in the games with 800-900 MHz. Just flash lupus gb kernel...
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i use doomlord kernel.

A Question
But if i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel i cant to overclock cause i cant change kernel. is there another option for improve the game experience with the NXT 1.3 Rom or another???

I know this might not help but could you tell me how good heavy 3d gaming was when you first installed the ROM. Did you play games like GTA:VC/GTA 3/Modern Combat 3/4 / Batman Dark Knight Rises etc without NO LAG or with minimal lag? Im on dixperia 2 and out of the 3 ROMs ive been on, its provided me with the good performance although it does slightly lag when doing heavy 3d gaming...

Nxt Light 1.3
I was experiencing the same issue. I am using the light version of the custom ROM, and it was blazing fast upon installation. Now that all of my games are installed, it is slightly slower than it was before, not very noticable though. If it helps, before playing a game, I use Es Task Manager to clear up about 200mb of memory so more is available for the games. My bootloader is locked as well. I wish there was a stable ICS on the Xperia Play. The ICS user interface, in my opinion, is much smoother than gingerbread.

Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S

Dont use any task killer!!! This has been discuss throughout XDA in any android dev. All custom rom hav init.d support & they hav thier own set of minfrees'. Using task killer/manager will conflict with all the roms' tweak. Capish!!!
Regards,
Sdojoin

lash1co said:
Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S
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My phone using NXT 1.3 has 204-215Mb free almost the times.

lash1co said:
Well i played games as Nova 3, Modern Combat 3, Pes 2012, Fifa 12, Asphalt 7 and i felt the rom really smooth but later when i had all my apps restored and time after working with the rom, definitely the was slower than rom newsly installed, now i have lag in all games :S. I have Advance task killer installed and when i'm going to play i free memory with the task killer, i used chainfire with Qualcomm and i free cache memory, but i never have 200 Mb free only when i reboot. Cause the services are restarted and the Ram memory is fill up really fast and i dont know why and what i can do :S
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Many task managers are there just to run ads, they can eat up your battery, the programs will try to load in the free ram, it will kill it and over and over.
Install LBE (in my signature), it have the feature to prevent user and system programs from autostarting, although there might be other lighter apps that does this. Leave the ram management to android, just clear the ram before you launch a game.
You could try and watch what programs use up the most ram and see if you can replace it worth lighter apps. Launchers and widgets tends to, especially weather ones. I use holo launcher with light widgets only.

sdojoin said:
Dont use any task killer!!! This has been discuss throughout XDA in any android dev. All custom rom hav init.d support & they hav thier own set of minfrees'. Using task killer/manager will conflict with all the roms' tweak. Capish!!!
Regards,
Sdojoin
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Thank you man, but i have another question if i have Ram Manager Pro running for "Harder Gamming" it is going a trouble with the NXT rom? cause that to free RAM too but i have lag too. The Task killer i used only for free ram before i play, or maybe can you tell me how can i do for boost my gamming experience on NXT rom in my XP with locked bootloader. Thank you people for your support!

eksasol said:
Many task managers are there just to run ads, they can eat up your battery, the programs will try to load in the free ram, it will kill it and over and over.
Install LBE (in my signature), it have the feature to prevent user and system programs from autostarting, although there might be other lighter apps that does this. Leave the ram management to android, just clear the ram before you launch a game.
You could try and watch what programs use up the most ram and see if you can replace it worth lighter apps. Launchers and widgets tends to, especially weather ones. I use holo launcher with light widgets only.
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Thank you, can you tell me what apps can i use for improve the gamming experience in XP or maybe boost the XP with NXT rom cause i have almost 20 apps and i have 100 mb free on Internal Memory, the Rom Memory with 35 Mb free, but the RAM fill up fast and i only use the defalult launcher of NXT Rom with Static Theme and a few widgets like Timescape, Photos/Videos, Searchbox and Music. But i feel the rom less smooth than newlsy installed, Thank you for answering!!!

Dont do anything. Just use it as is. If it gets laggy, reboot, wipe cache/dalvik-cache. Solve. Custom rom hav init.d support. That alone is enough to giv u the perf u need. Any other ram management app will only eat ur intrnal mem & ram at the same time. Just find some init.d & build.prop tweak all over XDA. Its impossible to "NOT" find any. Cheerio.
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sdojoin said:
Dont do anything. Just use it as is. If it gets laggy, reboot, wipe cache/dalvik-cache. Solve. Custom rom hav init.d support. That alone is enough to giv u the perf u need. Any other ram management app will only eat ur intrnal mem & ram at the same time. Just find some init.d & build.prop tweak all over XDA. Its impossible to "NOT" find any. Cheerio.
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Sdojoin
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Another question my friend what app can i used for cache/dalvik cache (For no reboot all time XD) and i can't use swapping on Stock Kernel? cause i cant in my XP with NXT ROM with locked bootloader. Thank you!!!

U can use swap if u need'em. As for cache/dalvik-cache, there's an init.d tweak for it. U just gotta find it. I think dixperia 2 hav'em. Did u tried that rom before?? If dont, mybe u should giv it a try. If not try finding them tweaks.
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Sdojoin

sdojoin said:
U can use swap if u need'em. As for cache/dalvik-cache, there's an init.d tweak for it. U just gotta find it. I think dixperia 2 hav'em. Did u tried that rom before?? If dont, mybe u should giv it a try. If not try finding them tweaks.
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I've tried to install a swapper but when i verify if it is running on memory use the swap space are in 0 like if i didnt install the swapper or if it isn't running, what can i do? The another question is this:
I found a tweaks collection and i want to try that but i dont know if that could generate conflict with the tweaks of the NXT ROM have with it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456777
Somebody said games are better installed in internal memory than SD Card, that is right? by the way what configuration or tweaks or apps you used for games like Nova 3, Asphalt 7 or Street Fighter IV? Thank you for answering!!!!

Remember i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel :S.

lash1co said:
Remember i have locked bootloader and by that stock kernel :S.
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Then your stuck with your limited "options."

chery2k said:
Then your stuck with your limited "options."
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So nothing can i do? :S. And if i put apps in Rom Memory (Rom's Space) will generate lag or no? Cause i thought in the posibility to move the apps in SD Car and Rom Space for more space on internal memory....

[Q] RAM question

Whenever playing Star Blitz it usually starts out ok then slows down and eventually force closes. I found out that the game ate up so much RAM.
I was thinking of using RAM swapper. Would it be any good?

zaku2s said:
Whenever playing Star Blitz it usually starts out ok then slows down and eventually force closes. I found out that the game ate up so much RAM.
I was thinking of using RAM swapper. Would it be any good?
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what i would recommend is to kill all apps before playing the game, have a good cpu profile combo remember unused ram is wasted ram and the android system is built so that if it needs for ram it automatically closes other background programs to accommodate ram usage. swapper on my opinion also degrades sd card life.

I have already closed other apps and have around 200mb free RAM. However after the game crashed I found out that Star Blitz is already occupying 150mb of my RAM. I less than 50mb of free RAM left when the game crashed.

zaku2s said:
I have already closed other apps and have around 200mb free RAM. However after the game crashed I found out that Star Blitz is already occupying 150mb of my RAM. I less than 50mb of free RAM left when the game crashed.
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ok heres what i will do i will try this game and let me see what i can do to help you out :cyclops:

fritzbored said:
ok heres what i will do i will try this game and let me see what i can do to help you out :cyclops:
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Thanks!!
BTW I am running on Lupus v6 and Aurora Play 8.1
Update:
I tried a different ROM (NXT 1.3) and it hasn't crashed yet.