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Hi,
I was wondering if anyone in Toronto area would know a place to buy the HTC Desire Z that isn't from Bell?
Or if it is from Bell, contains no Bell software (unbranded) and is unlocked?
I've been looking and haven't had any luck.
and has anyone noticed that Rogers is falling behind in the phone model area? Their phones are kind of getting outdated...
Thanks!
I uphave one unlocked with rogers....yeh there wayy behimd in terms of android. I suggest checking out kijiji.com or look at ebay or craigslist. If all else fails pm me and ill find you some online.
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I purchased an unlocked/unbranded Desire Z on Ebay to use in the states on the AT&T network. It was a North American Version which had the correct 3G bands for ATT. Had a good seller and good experience but the phone was quite pricey. They go for anywhere between $550 and $650 US.
I would suggest buying it from Bell via FutureShop or BestBuy.
You don't have to get a plan if you do that, plus they offer their extended warranties which still cover you if you root the phone, etc (though you should still make it appear stock).
You can flash the official WWE ROM which is basically stock HTC Sense. It won't have the Bell apps, and you don't need to root or anything to flash the WWE ROM (I think). You just need to make a 'goldcard' which is just a specially formatted SD card.
rewen said:
I would suggest buying it from Bell via FutureShop or BestBuy.
You don't have to get a plan if you do that, plus they offer their extended warranties which still cover you if you root the phone, etc (though you should still make it appear stock).
You can flash the official WWE ROM which is basically stock HTC Sense. It won't have the Bell apps, and you don't need to root or anything to flash the WWE ROM (I think). You just need to make a 'goldcard' which is just a specially formatted SD card.
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Yeah I was gonna buy one from Bell, but I don't know any trustworthy sites I can buy the unlock code from, which was why I opened this thread, but anyone here know one?
Nighte said:
Yeah I was gonna buy one from Bell, but I don't know any trustworthy sites I can buy the unlock code from, which was why I opened this thread, but anyone here know one?
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Be careful, because G2 owners have found big problems when they unlock their phones, like not being able to connect to any network after that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835673
Cellunlock.net with the code bbrocks50 for half price. You can find the phone listed a couple different ways. Either by first looking up htc or by first looking up bell. One is chapter than the other. I paid 15.
Zero issues unlocking. I think the issues are limited to g2.
I'm unlocked with Telus currently..and I used HTCsimUnlowNow.com. Seemed to work fine..the only thing was it was initially $15, but then I had to send them another $10 (after paying the 15) because of the Bell carrier or some excuse. So far i've had no problems..and i'm even able to use my BB data plan with the HTC despite Telus telling me it most likely wouldnt work lol.
I was wondering if I'm able to remove Bell's software using a program (TitaniumBackup, for example) or do I have to go through that whole process of flashing this and that to unbrand it?
And how bothersome is the Bell software?
..Although I'm gonna do it anyway but I don't have time right now to mod the phone.
You need root and it takes a lot of time to do it with titanium. It's easier to flash the wwe rom. But the apps aren't too annoying. The lack of htc locations is annoying
To elaborate on my last msg (which I wrote in a rush)..
It's more painful and takes longer to remove the apps manually as you need to root and then use Titanium's force remove method, one by one, which reboots the phone each time and takes forever.
Alternatively you could root and then S-OFF and delete those apps with the root file manager.
Or, the easiest/quickest way imho is to borrow/make a goldcard, download the euro HTC Sync, the WWE Rom, and run the ROM install program. It does the rest of the work for you
I was gonna go buy the phone today but Bell won't sell it unless I go on a plan.
I called up several different places, all the same reply, they won't let the phone go unless it's going out with a plan.
Does anyone know where I could buy it in and around Toronto?
Nighte said:
I was gonna go buy the phone today but Bell won't sell it unless I go on a plan.
I called up several different places, all the same reply, they won't let the phone go unless it's going out with a plan.
Does anyone know where I could buy it in and around Toronto?
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I asked at our local Best Buy (Oshawa) yesterday and they said they can sell the phone without a plan, no problem.
I bought mine today, you can buy it at WirelessWave or Telephone booth for the retail price.
I did notice the timestamp on the text messages are incorrect though, does anyone else have this problem?
I bought mine brand new on ebay for $375, t-mobile branded.. paid $15 to unlock it.
I suggest watching for a cheap one on ebay, maybe even try to bargain with some sellers.
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I suggest not buying from bell, or anything that is compatible with bell, unless you need it for ATT US or in Australia. Reason is that they use the wrong frequencies for use in Canada and would lock you to ROBELUS (the old evil phone companies). The US version of the vision is better... still compatible with robbers, but also with the best things that have happened to telecommunications in canada.... ever.
It sounds like we should start an exchange:
T-Mobile/Wind compatible phones exchanged for Bell/Telus/Rogers/AT&T compatible phones...
I'm on AT&T and I'd love to find the Bell Desire Z for purchase at a reasonable price. All the prices I've seen are ~$650 but the phones retail price is $500. Maybe I'm just not used to Canadian taxes... can my Canadian brethren enlighten this ignorant American as to how much the phone would cost unsubsidized after taxes?
You can get them straight from Bell for $565, with tax (13% on 499.95). If you look on kijiji and CL you can get them anywhere from $400-$500.
I bought mine yesterday for $480, no tax, and factory unlocked. It was brand new and sealed and came with a receipt for the warranty.
A lot of people are fooled into paying $600-$650 for an unlocked phone because sellers try to tell them that it costs $80-$100 to unlock it. But if people would take the time to look they would find you can get it unlocked for $25.
MyNameIsWepeel said:
A lot of people are fooled into paying $600-$650 for an unlocked phone because sellers try to tell them that it costs $80-$100 to unlock it. But if people would take the time to look they would find you can get it unlocked for $25.
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You can get it locked for free now, thanks to the fantastic work of scotty. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390
I'm on Rogers and I'm having a heck of a time trying to find out. Everyone wants to charge an arm and a leg. Trying to trade my Xperia X10 and some cash for a Desire Z.
Can a bad esn phone move to another carrier and be used normally?
What does bad esn mean
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No it wont transfer to another carrier, and it is caused from a phone bill not being paid, or a phone being lost or stolen and reported to the carrier. If you flash a phone to another carrier or use have it unlocked, then the phone will work on other networks, just not the network the esn was banned from, until the bill has been paid
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No it wont transfer to another carrier, and it is caused from a phone bill not being paid, or a phone being lost or stolen and reported to the carrier. If you flash a phone to another carrier or use have it unlocked, then the phone will work on other networks, just not the network the esn was banned from, until the bill has been paid
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Not unless it's sprint. sprint will refuse any bad esn's
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No it wont transfer to another carrier, and it is caused from a phone bill not being paid, or a phone being lost or stolen and reported to the carrier. If you flash a phone to another carrier or use have it unlocked, then the phone will work on other networks, just not the network the esn was banned from, until the bill has been paid
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Best answer i think, let me see if I understood!
You can unlock the phone, and then flash a ROM. And the NOT original carrier would work.
Is there something like that with IMEI/GSM?
I have been searching for a cheap note 2 n it seems that bad ESN phones are the cheapest....
So my question is If i buy a sprint bad ESN note 2 will it work in India with a CDMA connection... Will I have to unlock or flash it before using it...???
And if yes can anyone point me to the right thread or a tutorial...
Thanks in advance...!!
merchant91 said:
I have been searching for a cheap note 2 n it seems that bad ESN phones are the cheapest....
So my question is If i buy a sprint bad ESN note 2 will it work in India with a CDMA connection... Will I have to unlock or flash it before using it...???
And if yes can anyone point me to the right thread or a tutorial...
Thanks in advance...!!
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you would have to flash it. you will need your new carrier's prl and 3g connection port e.g. (123)[email protected] then just use qpst and configure, or find someone over there to do it for you
I would suggest you buy a World Phone with a bad ESN so that it has a GSM slot , even though it has a bad ESN you will be able to use it using a indian GSM sim card !
SO dont buy a Sprint/Verizon Phone with bad ESN ! Verizon's new phones with 4g capablity are GSM radios enabled so you can buy those
Hi guy,
please, let me know if I read right thing...
I can buy a phone with bad esn and use phone with normale sim card gsm ?
or I must unlock the phone buying code on line?
must I flash phone with another firmware ?
are these instruction valid for all verizon phone ?
Thank you so much
I sorry for my bad english and ignorance
Paolo
You're better off just buying a phone with a good ESN, if you plan on using CDMA in the States. Otherwise, if you plan to use GSM then just get a new Nexus 4 or Galaxy S3 (they're cheap now.)
The reason bad ESN phones are cheaper is because people use them for parts.
Unless your phone is an international phone, it won't have a sim card in it. Verizon in the states runs on cdma.
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frostedunit said:
...it won't have a sim card in it.
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Just to clarify this better, *MOST* US CDMA phones (Sprint, Verizon and many else) have SIM cards built-in and you can't swap. Besides, quite a few of them doesn't support AT&T / T-Mo's HSPA+ at all, so swapping another SIM (likely HSPA) usually makes no sense.
For example, in China here, the Epic 4G Touch from Sprint is modded to expose its SIM slots, making it possible to swap SIMs, but because E4GT isn't a "global phone", it lacks HSPA+ support and can only use CDMA SIMs (in China, that is, China Telecom).
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So hold up ...
Can i buy an S4 with a bad ESN from At&t and then unlock it (there are free and paid for solutions) and then use that same s4 on tmobile ?
The main question is within the USA do different networks share banned IMEI and ESN lists ?
Xplic1T said:
So hold up ...
Can i buy an S4 with a bad ESN from At&t and then unlock it (there are free and paid for solutions) and then use that same s4 on tmobile ?
The main question is within the USA do different networks share banned IMEI and ESN lists ?
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No. You have to use a device that has the proper network type (GSM vs CDMA) & frequency range.
Plus, how are there any bad ESN S4's already? The damn thing is brand new.
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No you can not use a bad esn phone in usa ! Blacklists are shared by networks .. Dont waste your money.
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Can i buy a Samsung S2 from at&t with bad esn and unlock or flash another ROM to use it in Europe ?
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I say yes
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Apparently no one HAS TAKEN A BAD ESN phone and successfully flashed to another ROM carrier...otherwise there would have been tons of comments by such a person on this thread by now. ;-/
I can add that anyone wanting to use the s4 active on TMobi (i537 or i9295) will not be satisfied because you can NOT use the TMobi wifi calling and you can not tether. You will also have to go through a process to add HSPA frequency in order to get a decent data and voice signal in most locations around the midwest. AND with the i9295 international... you will not be able to use LTE/4g data speed networks!
I'm selling my unlocked and rooted i537 right now for $175 because I want my TMobi wifi calling and tethering back. I did not find out about these issues until after I had already bought the phone. Anyone interested? hit me up....
So my friend has a dilemma here. He bought a Galaxy S3 off craigslist a while back. Now one month later his phone was locked by AT&T because it was reported stolen by the person he bought it from. Is there anything he can possibly do? He has already called AT&T and they refuse to unlock the phone, he can't use it whatsoever on his AT&T service.
Unless I'm wrong, he's pretty much screwed.
Whenever a purchase on craigslist is made you must always insist on the person giving a receipt signed by both of you. Your friend seems to be Sol.
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Is there more to the story you're not telling? What is there incentive for doing this?
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I wasn't aware ATT blocked IMEI like VZW/Sprint block ESNs. That's unfortunate about your friend's phone.
Sell it to someone internationally if you can unlock it.
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Sell it to someone internationally if you can unlock it.
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A family member of mine in the caribbean, Trinidad to be specific purchased a factory unlocked TMO version Samsung Galaxy S3 from someone and now they seem to be having trouble with making and receiving calls on their network (Bmobile is the network there). I told my cousin that he may have purchased a stolen phone and the IMEI may have been blacklisted but I didnt think that was possible internationally? Could there be another reason like the network is not compatible; Bmobile is in the process of setting up HSPA+. The phone is also rooted. Could that be a problem also? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Also he has been receiving a software update from TMO, the 94mb one. Could updating the software make it work?
So check this out.... I am an AT&T user and back when the HTC HD2 came out for T-Mobile I bought it from a friend when they signed up for a new contract. Got an unlock code from Ebay and have been using it for the past 2 years without having to have a data plan, never got added automatically to my plan like i have heard happen to others? And I'm wondering why? Is it possibly cuz its a T-Mobile phone? Or is it cuz I still have an old "Cingular" SIM card? I am curious about this because right now, Wally World has a special sale on the phone at $249, plus a $100 gift card, which will bring the phone down to $150 basically, so a pretty damn good deal for a phone just out on the market. And I'm plan on getting it this week, I was wondering if any of you would be able to tell me if at some point if i was able to get a T-Mobile version of the Samsung Note 2 if i could slip my SIM card into it and then be able to cancel my DATA plan, if i told them i went back to a Motorola Razr or something, which worked when i got my HD2? Or will AT&T be able to see that i have a smartphone? Is it the newer smaller SIM card, that will tell AT&T that I have a smartphone, or will the phone it self be what sends info to the servers or whatever that tells AT&T I have a smartphone? Or do you think this method of getting a T-Mobile phone and using an AT&T SIM card will work and I won't get stuck with a DATA plan? Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi so I have no need for the Data plan it will be going to waste.
The newer phones, including this one, use a micro-SIM.
I think it is because you have a phone that is not sold by AT&T that they can't tell what it is, so you would probably be forced to get a data plan if you get the AT&T Note II. I would think that regardless of the sim card you have it would still report your phone model to the network, but I really don't know anything about that, so hopefully others can chime in.
I have been using an unlocked Xperia Pro on AT&T and they don't seem to have a clue what it is or even that it is a smartphone, so I could probably do whatever I want with the data plan.
If you got the international version of the Note perhaps you would not have to have a data plan.
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I think it is because you have a phone that is not sold by AT&T that they can't tell what it is, so you would probably be forced to get a data plan if you get the AT&T Note II. I would think that regardless of the sim card you have it would still report your phone model to the network, but I really don't know anything about that, so hopefully others can chime in.
I have been using an unlocked Xperia Pro on AT&T and they don't seem to have a clue what it is or even that it is a smartphone, so I could probably do whatever I want with the data plan.
If you got the international version of the Note perhaps you would not have to have a data plan.
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I'm wondering if it has something to do with the IMEI? If it isn't listed in there network or something? Maybe I will be alright? I don't know... But back when I got the Tmobile HD2 I went from a Motorola Razr to the HD2 just fine and wasn't automatically enrolled into a data plan, like some others people on at&t were that got the same phone. I don't know how I wasn't, but I'm happy I wasn't and was hoping to find out how to avoid it again. Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi, I don't need to throw away, $15 to $30 extra a month when I'm not even going to use the Data network very often. I have been going just fine with my HD2 with no data plan, just using Wi-Fi.
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The newer phones, including this one, use a micro-SIM.
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Right, I know I'll have to get a new SIM card and that is what kinda worries me, I don't know anything about the SIM cards. I was just curious if my older "Cingular" SIM card is what was helping keep me stay under the radar of them not knowing I have a smartphone, or if its because, the HD2 phone I have is from Tmobile and not in their system, so it can't recognize it? I went from a Razr to the HD2 and it still shows as a Razr in my account. An when I get the Note 2 phone, hopefully from Tmobile sometime, I was hoping I can still get away with not having to add a Data plan if i can find out how to avoid it...
Its all in the IMIE ... I was using a Galaxy Nexus overseas on a dumb phone plan because they didnt have the IMIE in system they couldnt tell it was a smartphone but they have cracked down on it now. Only phone that seem to be making it through the loop hole is overseas ones that are not very popular. If you switch to the AT&T version you will 100% be put on data plan if you choose a note 2 from say Rogers there is a slight chance you could sneak under the radar and not need it but for how long no one really knows.
I've seen people come in with T-Mobile phones or international phones and they don't register as a smartphone with the IMEI. So no data is required with unlocked phones.
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hiii_imkris said:
I've seen people come in with T-Mobile phones or international phones and they don't register as a smartphone with the IMEI. So no data is required with unlocked phones.
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Do you work at an AT&T store or something? Just curious, cuz it kinda sounds like it from the way you worded that reply. I've read on other threads that AT&T does checks or sweeps every now and then, that might detect a smartphone? Have you heard about that before, not sure what they meant by that?
Okay so I found galaxy note 2 from a craiglist deal, popped in sim card, everything worked great as its a tmobile version but said per seller that it was unlocked. 30 minutes later after the deal my device had been blocked from network use. My sim would no longer work in my older phone, so I called and got that fixed, but I now have a stupid nice phone that im using for a paper weight. Obviously the person who sold it to me either knew it was reported lost or stolen, or reported it after selling it to me, its whatever it happens right.
What are my options? I really want to be able to use this phone and spent a lot of money on it. I appreciate all input.
Try using another sim card I suppose
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I did, I even went to the AT&T store and they gave me a new sim card and it worked, made calls, surfed the web for like 10 minutes and the same thing happened.
pr0cl1v1ty said:
I did, I even went to the AT&T store and they gave me a new sim card and it worked, made calls, surfed the web for like 10 minutes and the same thing happened.
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the only thing you can do is have the seller call att or tmobile, what ever its branded and tell them they found the devise and att can unblock the imei
Sounds like u was scammed.
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Only other option may be to try it on the other carrier. If it's a TMo phone, try it on ATT and vice versa.
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darocsfinest1 said:
the only thing you can do is have the seller call att or tmobile, what ever its branded and tell them they found the devise and att can unblock the imei
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Yea, I've been trying to figure out how to lookup the original buyer of this phone.
pr0cl1v1ty said:
Okay so I found galaxy note 2 from a craiglist deal, popped in sim card, everything worked great as its a tmobile version but said per seller that it was unlocked. 30 minutes later after the deal my device had been blocked from network use. My sim would no longer work in my older phone, so I called and got that fixed, but I now have a stupid nice phone that im using for a paper weight. Obviously the person who sold it to me either knew it was reported lost or stolen, or reported it after selling it to me, its whatever it happens right.
What are my options? I really want to be able to use this phone and spent a lot of money on it. I appreciate all input.
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If it is locked. Unlock and use through other carrier either tmobile or something that uses tmobile network mvno. If u have att note 2.
Its starting to look like its just not safe to buy this phone off Craigslist...
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Its not this phone. Its any phone. Run the numbers before you buy like a good consumer
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I don't know if you guys have reading comprehension problems or what... Dude said he used on tmo for 30 minutes and then got blocked, and then did the same thing with AT&T. For those of you that don't know AT&T and T-Mobile now share their blacklists, meaning it will not work on any carrier that uses any of those towers. Sad to say your best option would be to sell to an international user on celltraderonline. Be very clear that it is on the US blacklist and will not work with AT&T, T-Mobile or their sister carriers.
Have you tried any T-Mobile or AT&T MVNO's like Simple Mobile or Red Pocket? That might work. If not your pretty much screwed. Unless you use it in another country.
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JOSE89178 said:
Have you tried any T-Mobile or AT&T MVNO's like Simple Mobile or Red Pocket? That might work. If not your pretty much screwed. Unless you use it in another country.
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Wow, I guess you didn't read my post above yours.
I have been "burnt" also with buying a T-Mo Note 2 on Craigslist. I used my phone for 2 mos before it got blocked from T-Mo. I used the dialer tricked and unlocked the phone and now using it on Straight Talk Att sim. But you are right you can't use it on T-Mo network or any of the mvnos. You can only use it for ATT mvnos. I get 4g speeds and everything.
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Wow, I guess you didn't read my post above yours.
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Wow, I guess two people can't answer at the same time.
The posts are just three minutes apart.
I guess you read my mind lol. I never saw your post. I never would of posted something double and make myself look like a fool CD they were less then 3 min apart. So excuse me :banghead:
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I have been "burnt" also with buying a T-Mo Note 2 on Craigslist. I used my phone for 2 mos before it got blocked from T-Mo. I used the dialer tricked and unlocked the phone and now using it on Straight Talk Att sim. But you are right you can't use it on T-Mo network or any of the mvnos. You can only use it for ATT mvnos. I get 4g speeds and everything.
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if the phone has been imei blacklisted it will not work on any united states gsm service that includes straight talk... highly doubt you have a blocked phone working on straight talk
I had another thread going about being blocked on imei.
I just called tmobile and talked to them for about thirty minutes about my situation.
A quick summarization of the conversation is:
- The previous owner has been accused of fraud so that is the reason of the blocked IMEI.
- Can't do anything to unblock it, unless the previous owner retracts ther dues or whatever it is that needs to be payed.
- No third party unlocking will work.
Well for me, I fortunately have his information such as address and phone number and the text conversation still logged on my old phone. Luckily I called him today as a private number to check if he's phone still worked and still does, thank god.
Now I'm planning on calling him up tomorrow and, professionally, tell him my situation. When I met the guy, he didn't seem like a bad guy but hey, never judge a book by it's cover eh.
If he refuses any of these or won't agree to a median than I'll have to take legal actions.
That's my plan that is. I am not going to let $600.00 go to waste on a blocked phone! I'm taking this guy all the way.
*#06#
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not sure but can't you get rid of your IMEI by flashing a bunch of times? I had this happen with my SK4G, my IMEI number under settings was a bunch of 0s. When I called up T-mobile and asked for an unlock code for the phone, it didn't work because my IMEI was screwed up. I ended up having to alter some Hex file in order to unlock it