Hello fellow XDA members!
I was just wondering about OTA updates, and since there seem to be a lot of rumors around the interwebs, i figured i might as well ask. Are the OTA updates affected post root and CWM flash? And if it is, what can one do to still get OTA updates if so?
Thanks in advance!
You can reinstall the stock recovery. You will lose your root if and when you utilize the OTA.
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d3athsd00r said:
You can reinstall the stock recovery. You will lose your root if and when you utilize the OTA.
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Great thanks! Is there anyway around this without losing root and/or CWM or would i have to update through kies? One more thing, if i remove bloatware from my device, would i still be able to update through kies?
lemonbox said:
Great thanks! Is there anyway around this without losing root and/or CWM or would i have to update through kies? One more thing, if i remove bloatware from my device, would i still be able to update through kies?
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There is usually a flashable zip made available of a rom update. These are typically already rooted. Usually happens within 12 to 24 hours has been my experience. I usually just wait. Not sure abt up up updating thru Kies with bloat removed.
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Hi there,
I have a Sprint EPIC 4G Touch that is rooted. My phone is prompted me to for an OTA update to 4..0.4. I'm assuming that my phone will brick if I click update. Will it? Can I somehow stop this stupid prompting and wait for the OTA rooted version? I do like sprint roms... yeah I know.. I just want it rooted and have ICS too.
Thanks all!!
allow the update and then just reroot
Really?
bush2088 said:
allow the update and then just reroot
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Will I lose all my apps and stuff or will it just return me to upgraded stuff? sorry, I know this is dumb questioning.
The OTA will not brick your phone because it does not wipe. Once you have it upgraded the process of rooting does not delete data either.
If you attempt to download the update, during the installation process, it will fail and bump you back where you were.
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SkippyDogg said:
If you attempt to download the update, during the installation process, it will fail and bump you back where you were.
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I rerooted el29 did a manual upgrade download the official rename it update.zip place it on your sd card
Boot to recovery choose apply update from sd card
Back up your apps with titanium or my backup our find you one
Do not back up system apps
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You can stop the notification by disabling system updates with titanium backup. The worst that can happen if you download it is it won't install. If all you did was root and didn't add CWM or delete any uninstallable apps the update should install. The rooted OTA is already available from sfhub in the dev section and the stock rooted FF18 Rom has has been out for two months. We just didn't know it was the official until a week ago. Most of the custom ICS roms are now based on FF18.
Can I still receive OTA updates while rooted and custom recovery? I ask because I am not getting the notification people are talking about. I tried unrooting and it still says I'm up to date. I have TWRP recovery. U would like to receive OTAs at least until Jellybean comes out, then I'll go custom. I'm coming from a Samsung Vibrant that I was really used to updating and it seems like some things have changed since then.
HoosierFDaddy said:
Can I still receive OTA updates while rooted and custom recovery? I ask because I am not getting the notification people are talking about. I tried unrooting and it still says I'm up to date. I have TWRP recovery. U would like to receive OTAs at least until Jellybean comes out, then I'll go custom. I'm coming from a Samsung Vibrant that I was really used to updating and it seems like some things have changed since then.
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Do you have custom rom? On custom roms there is no notification about OTA updates.
I just made a guide that might help you for stock rooted roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842142
It will take you the Kies route to get your update. I also did not receive a notification.
I do not have a custom Rom. I am using the stock, root injected Rom and TWRP. I have the original recovery of I need it and OTA root keeper. I thawed out all of my frozen bloatware apps, so I should be fairly straight, besides root and recovery.
Also curious if I flash Wildchild's deodexed stock OTA update, would I still be able to get notifications or does that classify as "custom"since it's deodexed?
cybrnook said:
I just made a guide that might help you for stock rooted roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842142
It will take you the Kies route to get your update. I also did not receive a notification.
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I assume your guide method will trip the flash counter and I use Triangle away to resolve that? I used the no trip method to get root the first time, that's why I ask about Wildchild's deodexed version because I have flashable one downloaded already if all is well with future OTAs.
HoosierFDaddy said:
I assume your guide method will trip the flash counter and I use Triangle away to resolve that? I used the no trip method to get root the first time, that's why I ask about Wildchild's deodexed version because I have flashable one downloaded already if all is well with future OTAs.
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Yes, on my guide you will trip the flash counter when you install the custom recovery again in ODIN. But like you said, triangle away and your good.
Where are you located? OTAs are generally sent out in waves, by region i think. Just may not be pushed to your area yet.
And if you are rooted, you can download the updated but it will fail at install.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Where are you located? OTAs are generally sent out in waves, by region i think. Just may not be pushed to your area yet.
And if you are rooted, you can download the updated but it will fail at install.
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I'm on the west coast of the U.S. I'm sure I'm not in the wave yet, but I'm impatient (as it seems like most of us in these forums are) and I'm going to flash the deodexed version... now. Thanks for your quick replies and I'm keeping cybrnook's guide for later reference just in case.
Okay, so I flash that root injected OTA update and new modem with no flash counter trip, but now my device status is modified. Can I get future OTA notifications?
I am rooted with cwm and wicked rom v2. I got the notification and was able to download it however when it rebooted and went into cwm recovery and it says aborted and failed.
So I think if you have a custom recovery you will not be able to do ota updates but might be possible for Kies update never tried Kies so not sure
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As long as you are on a stock based rom and the ota componets are intact, you should get notified if there is an update.
The update will fail though so you have to either get it as a custom rom or update via kies or odin.
Most people say it fails because of root, but I think it can also fail due to either a custom recovery and/or having a deodexed rom. (Not 100% about that last one though)
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DocHoliday77 said:
As long as you are on a stock based rom and the ota componets are intact, you should get notified if there is an update.
The update will fail though so you have to either get it as a custom rom or update via kies or odin.
Most people say it fails because of root, but I think it can also fail due to either a custom recovery and/or having a deodexed rom. (Not 100% about that last one though)
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This +1 (fails due to custom recovery I believe)
Someone flashed me to 4.1.1 and told me not to do the OTA update when I get it and I am unsure his reasoning. I have just received the OTA update and am hesitant to do so cause he told me I shouldn't this is my build.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Na05R2kBtw8/UH99ptd4xVI/AAAAAAAAB_U/WtzCgehyO34/s512/Screenshot_2012-10-17-20-45-36.png
Please let me know if I should accept the OTA or not I am very noob when it comes to this stuff and thanks
Maybe he rooted your phone too, and didn't want the update to break root.
leppo said:
Maybe he rooted your phone too, and didn't want the update to break root.
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Is that the only reason not to accept the OTA, he did root it but that can always be redone. If I accept it I wont loose my data saved on my phone will I? I shouldn't I would think
TechnoDork said:
Is that the only reason not to accept the OTA, he did root it but that can always be redone. If I accept it I wont loose my data saved on my phone will I? I shouldn't I would think
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The update won't install. Its best to just flash a rooted version of said update.
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Which one would I use?
Rem3Dy said:
The update won't install. Its best to just flash a rooted version of said update.
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Root doesn't prevent OTA updates from installing. However, installing the update will unroot the phone unless you use something like CWM which can keep root for you.
RoadHazard said:
Root doesn't prevent OTA updates from installing. However, installing the update will unroot the phone unless you use something like CWM which can keep root for you.
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I tried the OTA but it shows an android with a Red sign in his belly. So basically I want to get my phone back to where I can get updates straight from Google and I don't need my phone rooted. Is this possible? If so I need instructions lol Much appreciated!
So I updated to 4.1.2 recently and decided I'd simply root my phone. Now today I have the AT&T updater telling me I have an update pending. I'm already on 4.1.2 and the only possible reason I could conceive as to why this is popping up is because during rooting something must have changed and that flagged the updater as me having an obsolete firmware. Anyone else getting this?
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So I updated to 4.1.2 recently and decided I'd simply root my phone. Now today I have the AT&T updater telling me I have an update pending. I'm already on 4.1.2 and the only possible reason I could conceive as to why this is popping up is because during rooting something must have changed and that flagged the updater as me having an obsolete firmware. Anyone else getting this?
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What is your current firmware
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4.1.2 Baseband I317UCALK7 Build Number JZO54K.I317UCALK7
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4.1.2 Baseband I317UCALK7 Build Number JZO54K.I317UCALK7
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The latest is actually I317UCAMA4; the ALK7 is the one right before that
Thanks, I have TWRP installed so do I have to reinstall the stock recovery and then continue the update and whatnot?
Don't waste your time with the ATT update; just flash almost any custom ROM, and you will have all the benefits plus much more...
wase4711 said:
Don't waste your time with the ATT update; just flash almost any custom ROM, and you will have all the benefits plus much more...
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I agree, but if you want to upgrade, use cf auto root to reinstall stock recovery, use full unroot in super su, then run update
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Android The Greek said:
I agree, but if you want to upgrade, use cf auto root to reinstall stock recovery, use full unroot in super su, then run update
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I've tried this, but the update still fails. Could it be my modified system files from setting up Google wallet?
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bookem11 said:
I've tried this, but the update still fails. Could it be my modified system files from setting up Google wallet?
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Could be, I always keep a stock backup jsut incase. You can always dirty flash a stock rom and see if that works
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If you are going to stick with stock, you may want to use autoruns to disable the check for updates. That way at least the notification will go away.
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I agree, but if you want to upgrade, use cf auto root to reinstall stock recovery, use full unroot in super su, then run update
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I did all of the above. Update was downloaded successfully, Phone reboot itself and started installing update. And than "updated was interrupted" message popped out. I've tried it several times with the same result.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
The update process fails at 24-26%
I've downloaded 3 times
I am rooted w/Exynos and using OTA Rootkeeper
Thanks
U need to be fully stock.
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Remove SU and OTA Rootkeeper?
Last update was ok with OTA Rootkeeper installed.
I can try.
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Use odin/mobile odin to flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975560 its prerooted
horr1blek1tten said:
U need to be fully stock.
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Not entirely, I did the OTA update while keeping root using SuperSU Pro and the root saving function. I had a similar failure at 25% when I first tried to update but found it was because I had missed a system app when defrosting. Make sure you've reinstalled/defrosted all the system apps you removed when you debloated.
As you're able to download the OTA update it means you've avoided tripping the flash counter and have been able to maintain the Status:Normal. I rooted originally with the Exynos abuse and have been using SuperSU Pro's root saving function since then to keep root through the OTA updates. It is possible but I will admit it has caused more difficulty then if I went the Mobile Oden or TWRP route.
Crap, I deleted some system apps.
Is there a list for me to compare?
razormy said:
Crap, I deleted some system apps.
Is there a list for me to compare?
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If you cant figure out what u deleted.just flash again your stuff wont be deleted. Next backup the apps your going to delete. before you do using titanium backup
deeznutz1977 said:
If you cant figure out what u deleted.just flash again your stuff wont be deleted. Next backup the apps your going to delete. before you do using titanium backup
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I just odined from the link provided.
All is well.
Thanks.
razormy said:
I just odined from the link provided.
All is well.
Thanks.
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Glad to here it.
I learned several phones back, don't ever accept OTAs. Let other people be the guinea pigs and let the devs figure out what the carrier is patching.