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I've bought Desire 4 days ago.
I've been running in some battery problems a lot. I've heard that battery should have 4-5 full draining and charging before having its max capacity, but I have a life span of about 16-20 hours of battery with Wi-Fi on.
How i found out that: Yesterday I went to the country and messed around with my gps and navigation (never used one, so felt like a little child with a brand new shiny toy). So the battery went dead and i charged it almost full. When i got home i turned the wifi on. Didn't manage to connect to my home network, due to Android still not supporting Ad-Hoc networks (sharing through my notebook) so i didn't bother more and used my data plan, but forgot to turn off the wifi.
In about 2 hours, the battery was nearly 60% from 90. When i went to see what's draining the battery I saw it was the Wifi. I turned it off and since last night, up to now (about 14 hours) the battery is 50% (only 10 percent for 14 hours).
Is there any way to make the phone not scan so agressively for Wifi when it's on ? I'm comming from iphone and it didn't matter too much if i had my wifi on or off there.
First of all, what you're experiencing is normal.
In fact, dropping only 30% with 2 straight hrs of heavy use is actually quite impressive.
If you don't want your device to scan for wifi, turn it off. Simple as that. Keep the WiFi setting widget on one of your homescreens for easy access.
It wasn't heavy use I killed all apps and left it there. 30% are just from WiFi scanning.
I know I must turn off wifi, i have the widgy button, but sometimes i just forget i have to shut it down. (Though that's a bit killing, since i didn't have to do this on my iPhone. Actually this is the only shortcoming i can think of now, great phone. Seems i have to get used to killing extra stuff )
Sadly i couldn't find an option to tell it to scan on rarer occasion, just to help absent-minded people like me.
Try downloading "Y5 - Battery Saver" from the Market.
It automatically switches WiFi on and off depending on your location (as determined by cell location, not GPS).
It allows you to leave WiFi in locations where you know you have WiFi, and automatically switches it off when you leave those locations.
I've installed it, but not exhaustively tested as yet as I've not really been out of WiFi coverage since I installed it.
Regards,
Dave
Try getting the WiFi On/Off widget from the market.
It lets you turn off the WiFi with one touch. Will save you a lot of battery when not using it.
@Gana1991 - i've already noted that i have the widget (no need to download from market)
@foxmeister - thanks, i will try that. (I have been secretly thinking about some app with this function )
indeed, there is a WIFI widget builtin.
If you really want another widget, check the WiFi Toggle by "JQ Soft", nice design.
The Y5-Battery Saver is nice....it seems to work properly.
But i am affraid it was causing some problems here, so i uninstalled.
I will reinstall and do some more tests.
WI-FI usage is actually much better than using the network which drains the battery more.
But deffo only have on when using, not all the time.
Or you'd use the standard HTC energy widged or the android wifi switch wich can be found @ widged -> settings -> wifi
Put the HTC battery widget on the screen, not only does it show what % you have left but selecting the widget pops up a small menu where you can adjust display, turn on /off WiFi, GPS and Bluetooth, vey handy indeed
I leave my WiFi on all the time at home because of the data constantly changing between G/3G it drains the battery amazingly fast. leaving WiFi on helps me save battery and keep a data connection. I took my phone off charge at 9 this morning, WiFi has been enabled all day and I have 80% battery.
once the battery has had a week or 2 of charging it will run loads better. also charging with the phone switched off gets you a bit more juice because of a firmware problem.
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Put the HTC battery widget on the screen, not only does it show what % you have left but selecting the widget pops up a small menu where you can adjust display, turn on /off WiFi, GPS and Bluetooth, vey handy indeed
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Where is this battery widget? I cant find it anywhere.
Oops, didnt know i had to look for it on the market. Found it.
Go settings, wifi, menu button and this brings up advanced settings. From there you can disable wifi after 15 mins of inactivity. When the phone wakes wifi kicks in. I have data turned off, wifi turned off, but if I forget to turn wifi off after using it, it's not too bad as it will be deactivated.
What's that widget called? All I can find is the power widget.
Ok found it
Only seems to be a meter though, no adjustments?
Go settings, wifi, then WiFi settings, then press the menu button,. From their you can select advanced WiFi settings.
When i got home i turned the wifi on. Didn't manage to connect to my home network, due to Android still not supporting Ad-Hoc networks (sharing through my notebook) so i didn't bother more and used my data plan, but forgot to turn off the wifi.
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If you were using your data plan then your wifi wouldn't be on as the phone turns it off when your connected via 3G, it only uses one or the other not both at the same time.
That's the way it is on my Desire.
I've not used WiFi at all today yet apparently its consumed 25% of my battery. I've got it switched off via widget and its also set to disable after 15 minutes of inactivity.
Any thoughts?
thanks for any help
It's just occurred to me that perhaps the percentages run and run and are not reset after a charge?
Anyone know how it works?
Hi everyone!
I'm using OpenDesire 4.0.4, and while it's more or less the perfect ROM for me, I'm getting a little annoyed at the WiFi. As the ROM is based on CyanogenMod, it has the same WiFi behaviour: When the screen turns off, the WiFi enters power saving mode, regardless of the apps that are active at the time, or the amount of traffic over WiFi at the time.
The problem here is that any application that's using WiFi pretty much just stops as soon as you turn the screen off.
1. Sipdroid during a call: Massive packet loss as soon as the screen turns off. You may hear a garble or two, but nothing intelligible.
2. SwiFTP and other FTP servers: Connecting to the FTP server and navigating to folders takes ages when the phone is in standby. Transferring files is more or less impossible (times out)... Everything's fine when the screen's on. If you transfer a big file and turn off the screen during the transfer, you basically pause the transer - turn the screen back on and the transfer goes back to full speed
3. Market: If you turn off the screen while a lot of apps are going to download, like after pressing "Update all" for a few apps, more often than not they'll just fail in the background.
Now, I could beg and ask the ROM developers (Kali for CyanogenMod on Desire, or AdamG for OpenDesire) to just change this behaviour, but it seems that most people are happy with the situation, as it causes the WiFi to use very little battery on standby... so I'm asking if anyone knows how I could change this myself. Is it even possible to do this at runtime without baking it into the ROM directly?
Or am I SOL until (or rather unless) AdamG or Kali takes pity on me?
I'd love to hear some input - hell, maybe I'm just doing it wrong ... Thanks in advance!
PS: Yes, my WiFi Sleep Policy is set to Never, and the Desire DOES stay connected when the screen is off. Just in a very low power mode...
-edit- Should have searched, sorry: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752856
-edit2- Looks like there really isn't a fix for this... Anyone found a way to completely disable PSP on the Desire/Nexus WiFi?
I'm on the same ROM as yourself. What value is your "screen-off lock screen delay" set to?
In my observations, the transfer in the state you mention still persists albeit at a very slow rate and the WiFi chip is certainly placed in the LOW power state, although on.
I'm unaware of any workaround but what I use myself when transferring bulk 1-7GB files through WiFi from my PC/Laptop, which is to change the value of the screen lock delay at screen off under Settings>OpenDesire>User Interface>(last option) to a high figure, like 10-30m, depending on how long I'm expecting the transfer to take. It's a trade-off but you'll still save over 95% of the power since your screen is off but the WiFi/SD/CPU remain working as when the screen is on. Maybe you've tried this already?
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That's not a bad idea... brb testing .
-edit- Didn't work
As soon as the screen times out, my transfer speed drops to nearly 0 - even with the lock delay set to 30m... :'(
OK, that's confusing. I'll be back by tonight or morning... I have much testing to do on this since for sub-20mins, my connection runs plus 200Kbps according to the PowerTutor log in such a state. Usually it would drop to 0.3-8Kbps when the screen switched off.
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OK, that's confusing. I'll be back by tonight or morning... I have much testing to do on this since for sub-20mins, my connection runs plus 200Kbps according to the PowerTutor log in such a state. Usually it would drop to 0.3-8Kbps when the screen switched off.
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Mine drops to practically 0. So low that due to overhead, FTP transfers pretty much stop completely...
I've seen that the linked kernel module provides a temporary workaround for you guys now. During the course of my testing your concern I basically found my WiFi module isn't ever turning off nor switching any connections off - it's always awake and can always transfer some data. Even in the LOW state it is connected at 24Mbps. Whatever I did I couldn't change this behavior on 4.0.4. Time for another wipe...
OD has many user preferred options baked in working fine alongside the conventional options so it'd probably be best suited for a toggle of this feature to be implemented for you guys (if at all possible). Not sure if that WiFi module power state behaviour is write-able and changeable on-the-fly before a reboot, should be, as it's only changing a hardware state.
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The new Wifi module is working perfectly here. No more performance problems, and my power consumption has actually gone DOWN. Probably because I have a bunch of connected apps running in the background and PSP is very inefficient for that.
Also, the delays in Chrome To Phone and Appbrain web installs are gone...
I'm loving this fix...
I have set the Wifi policy to "Always on".
Many times (but not every time) when my One X goes into sleep mode, all data connections don't work. I notice it because I feel so strange there is no notification from Whatsapp and Line as usual. So, I press the power button and see no data connection at all. After a few second, 3G data connection appears but no wifi. Wifi then replaces 3G a few second later.
It usually happens and I feel so annoyed as I lost communication with my colleagues when One X is sleeping.
Is there somewhere in "Setting" that can override the "Always on" in Wifi policy? If I miss it, please let me know.
I feel very disappionted with my One X as it contains a lot of bugs.
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I have set the Wifi policy to "Always on".
Many times (but not every time) when my One X goes into sleep mode, all data connections don't work. I notice it because I feel so strange there is no notification from Whatsapp and Line as usual. So, I press the power button and see no data connection at all. After a few second, 3G data connection appears but no wifi. Wifi then replaces 3G a few second later.
It usually happens and I feel so annoyed as I lost communication with my colleagues when One X is sleeping.
Is there somewhere in "Setting" that can override the "Always on" in Wifi policy? If I miss it, please let me know.
I feel very disappionted with my One X as it contains a lot of bugs.
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It's happening to me too, it's very frustrating because when turned on it show as connected while it's false.. and i'm unable to browse/etc without re enabling wifi manually.
Same issue on the One S. This is most likely a driver related problem or something. I think the next firmware update should fix this, but if anyone of you can provide a hotfix or something I wouldn't be sad
Getting the exact same problem.
I have not noticed this so far.
same problem with wifi....and in the nights my Data also gets switched off after sometime of inactivity...couldnt find any setting related to that....do any of you know any hidden setting for it?
Yeah it happening to me as well. It could be kernel related.
Same Here
Mine is opposite, I want it to sleep on screen off but it keeps reverting to always on. Quite frustrating as it is the major cause of my battery loss
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Mine uses less battery with wifi on then normal 3g/4g
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Mine uses less battery with wifi on then normal 3g/4g
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yeah same here, i've tested both over night and less battery used on wi-fi than 3g
I cant connect to my home wifi, it show connected then disconnect immediate
it no usaable now in my house
I just noticed this, too. Really annoying when you suddenly stop getting any notifications for E-Mails etc.
This is also not fixed in 1.28 :/.
I seem to only have this during the night hours, though. Like there is some sort of "Quiet Hours"-function but they forgot to put it in the settings >_<
I think this is the special Sleep Mode kicking in, and the WiFi Always-On is overridden by it.
When I turn the screen off, I can still ping my One X over the network. However, after some time (maybe 5-10 mins) it no longer responds and has dropped its WiFi connection.
The Always-On WiFi option has only ever applied to when the screen is off. The sleep mode thing is new and not related to android itself - an HTC hardware thing by the look of it.
Maybe it's fixable in the driver software, but I believe the "WiFi always on" function is behaving correctly - it's the new sleep state that is breaking it.
I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like.
If someone has the time, try setting up a PC to continuously ping the One X and see if it keeps it from going in to sleep mode.
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I think this is the special Sleep Mode kicking in, and the WiFi Always-On is overridden by it.
When I turn the screen off, I can still ping my One X over the network. However, after some time (maybe 5-10 mins) it no longer responds and has dropped its WiFi connection.
The Always-On WiFi option has only ever applied to when the screen is off. The sleep mode thing is new and not related to android itself - an HTC hardware thing by the look of it.
Maybe it's fixable in the driver software, but I believe the "WiFi always on" function is behaving correctly - it's the new sleep state that is breaking it.
I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like.
If someone has the time, try setting up a PC to continuously ping the One X and see if it keeps it from going in to sleep mode.
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Hello Dave,
Your analysis is quite impressive,
I also started dealing with this from "Special Sleep Mode" perspective.
I have got the FOTA, find data in my signature, and still suffering from the same issue.
To summarize my findings let me brief it:
When I first got the update, the problem seemed to be solved
I kept connected to my home WiFi router for several hours and got notifications from Whatsapp and Twitter
I thought the problem was solved and the bug was fixed, as I kept seeing my OneX on the WiFi Client on my router's managing interface on my PC
I shut down my phone, WiFi was on, and turn it back on
WiFi kicked in and connected with no problems,
An hour after, I sensed something wasn't good, notifications were silenced
I unlocked my phone and checked the status bar to find there were no DATA connections at all, nothing, no WIFi no Mobile Data, the usual bug
Now I started to think,
I Have got this problem after a full shut down, and at a battery below 15%
One thing to add,
I turned my phone off with WiFi enabled and when turned it on WiFi kicked in.
Now I am monitoring on the following basis.
I clicked all WiFi hot spots previously saved on my OneX and chose to "FORGET"
Connected to my preferred hotspot
Monitoring the WIFI, with battery over 15%, seems to be very healthy, more than an hour on sleep mode, and WiFi is on, uninterrupted and VERY CONNECTED
I will keep monitoring the behaviour till battery fall under 15% and will report back
I'll make sure to turn off WiFi before shutting down my phone if I have to, this is to eleminate the other variable and keep concentarting on one variable "Battery percentage"
A point to add:
On my previous Gingerbread SensationXE, there was an option on Settings> Battery to control phone's behavior and stop background sync and other activities when battery fall below a pre-defined percentage.
Default was 15%
I can't find this option on my One X, IceCream Sandwich
That's why I started to analyse the problem from the perspective of "Special Sleep Mode - Below 15%" bahaviour.
I will report back as soon as I have results.
Thank you
Update:
Started to experience same issue when battery falls below 50%.
All DATA gone down, no WiFI and no Mobile Data.
Charged my phone to 73%, "Forget" all WiFi network.
WiFi off
Monitoring Mobile Data only.
Mobile data gone down after 30 minutes sleep mode, 73% battery
Connecting to WiFi, and started monitoring WiFi
WiFi + Mobile Data gone down after 30 minutes.
Power down phone, and then on, 73% Battery, WiFi off
Monitoring Mobile Data only.
Failed, and disconnected
Failure
I've done a Factory Reset !!!
Update:
No problems on WiFi, nor Mobile data whatsoever for the whole day until battery falls below 10% !!!
WiFi disconnected after exactly 15 minutes, Mobile data kicks in, then disconnected as well !!!
I turn on the screen after 20 minutes to find NO DATA CONNECTION of any kind.
Mobile data kicks in, WiFi replaces mobile data, and start receiving all data dependent notifications!!!
I have the same problem, wifi is turned off sometimes when screen is locked.
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I have the same problem, wifi is turned off sometimes when screen is locked.
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Hello Pabson,
Thanks for sharing.
Would you provide more information about your phone's software number, your location (Region, not specific).
Thanks again.
Same here, tried several roms and the same happens with every ROM out there. What is more, I cannot connect to WIFI at work (WPA PSK) but I can connect perfectly to my home WIFI network.
Hopefully this is not a hardware fault and will be fixed.
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Same here, tried several roms and the same happens with every ROM out there. What is more, I cannot connect to WIFI at work (WPA PSK) but I can connect perfectly to my home WIFI network.
Hopefully this is not a hardware fault and will be fixed.
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If it happens on every single rom you you installed, then apparently this is a hardware fault.
What "Base" do the Roms, you installed, created on?!
I mean based on what version of RUU?
same problem here.
I mis the "power saving mode" options like in android 2.3
It might idd have something to do with power savings mode kicking in.
I bought myself Arc S, it came loaded with .62 firmware. On my initial run, battery ran for about a day, later on for two or maybe even three days. Then I started to work in another country. As far as I remember, battery life was the same, even though the network was not (where I work now is 2G only, in my home country 3G). Then one day messed around with a Xperia S apps, did a stupid mistake and started to get force closes with launcher. I had to repair software.
Since the software reinstallation, my battery life degraded to less than a day without even touching it. Therefore I installed Battery Monitor Widget, to see, what is going on. I noticed, that battery drainage is about 70-110 ma in average, as far as I know, it should be much lower (under 30ma?). I have to say, that I tested this with .62, .42 firmware and it's all the same. When I turn phone to airplane mode, energy consumption lowers to under 5ma - which is normal i guess.
It began to bug me even more, as we bought small alarm clock with radio. I noticed, that when this alarm clock is on, despite from 2 other phones our room, my Arc S is the only phone, which makes this kind of searching-for-signal or calling speaker interference (noise coming out of speaker). My phone does that all the time, even in idle mode. This can be also heard when we have our TV on on. So, if I don't want to hear that, I have to unplug the alarm clock or put my phone into airplane, which sucks.
I asked a guy next building, if he has the same problems with Arc S, and he says that his phone can live up to 5 days with one charge (is connected to the same network provider), so I guess it is not network related?
I wonder, is there a possibility, my phone's radio is broken somehow? Or it was faulty, and firmware reinstall somehow broke it to the end? So that is draining battery all the time - looking for signal? Any way to fix this? Flashing different base bands did not help, tried that already...anybody knows a fix for this, apart from returning it to my provider - since I'm 4 months away from my country
Anybody heard for any similar problem with Arc S?
Thanks in advance! (if needed, I can also post battery usage screenshot, but I think it's not much of a help)
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Then I started to work in another country. As far as I remember, battery life was the same, even though the network was not (where I work now is 2G only, in my home country 3G)
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That seems like the issue here if I'm understanding you correctly. If you don't have 3G service where you currently are, and you did not turn off 3G, your phone will constantly try and find a 3G signal.
Airplane mode fixing the issue makes this seem even more likely. Try disabling 3G and see if it helps.
Problem is, that's what I did almost instantly when I came here, I set it to GSM only. One thing I noticed right now, when I check into About phone, under Mobile network type, my Arc S has: UNKNOWN, where my friends HTC says EDGE. Maybe here lies a problem? Why my phone can't detect network type?
Incredibly, I found the reason for my drainage and signal search. When I came into that country where I work now, my provider offered me to turn off data transfer (provider turns it off for me). Of course I did not want any unintended data transfer, so I turned it off by sending sms to service number. After I reinstalled software (that was my first reboot here), phone couldn't find network type for that reason, and was searching for it all the time. Yesterday I allowed data transfer by sms again, phone found EDGE network, can't hear any more noise on our alarm clock and battery drainage is about 4% per 8,5 hour. Excellent
I hope this helps anyone out there with drainage problems.
I think you can also turn off/disable data transfer/traffic with the Data traffic widget, if you want to avoid using data.
xperia arc s
hold up, i dont understand. so im pretty sure i have the same problem. get about 17 hours with berely using my phone on any rom/kernal/firmware. even with data turned off, betterbatterystats shows 'noor unknown signal' and 'no data conection'? i sued to able to get 3 or more days out of my phone??
I think there is an application, which might be keeping the phone alive.
dout it, still drains after a complete rom wipe
Hey guys I have searched and searched for a remedy for my problem, first off here is what I am running on my i9250:
ROM: Beanstalk 1.190
Kernel: KUBO-AK r46
Baseband: I9250UGLL1
Now the problem is this, all data (wifi and cell data) randomly disconnects when my battery is anywhere lower than 50% and gets increasingly annoying the lower it gets. I do not have any powersaving features enabled and yes I have changed the advanced settings in Wifi (Keep wifi on during sleep: checked to Always, Avoid poor connections: Unchecked, wifi freq band: 2.4ghz only, wifi optimization: unchecked; i guess that is a powersaving feature as well)
Still the problem persists. The other problem is, it happens to my cell data as well, when I wake the phone up (when it is under 50% or so) I see that only then the cell data starts to reconnect, and then I get all my whatsapp messages and emails all at once. (same goes with the wifi) Keep in mind though, when I have the phone plugged in and charging the wfi or cell data are active when the screen is switched off. The problem only occurs when the battery is below 50%.
Is there anything I can do about this, it gets really annoying because I have to wake the phone up and keep the screen on, in order to get messages. I know there is a widget that keeps the wifi active regardless of the battery level, but what about the phone data when I am out and about. I need to stay connected especially with emails and whatsapp because that is how clients stay in contact with me and it sucks when they send messages and I get nothing and they have to wait for me to check or wake up my phone for the data connection to re-establish whether it be on wifi or data.
Anyone knows how to fix this problem?
No one?
Have you tried changing your kernel? Sometime kernels can have weird affects on your device.
İ think this is one of kernel problems. Battery section is controlling by kernel. Find a kernel and use smartassv2 with sio.
Yes, I swapped around a few kernels and same effect. I really am at a loss.
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Yes, I swapped around a few kernels and same effect. I really am at a loss.
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it happens to me as well, not sure about the 50%, but when I am at home with 3G and wifi on very often if i turn on the phone the signal bars are grey and not blue and it seems that connectionwas lost during sleep and is being turned on again
btw, I am on stock 4.2.2
Try to format /system. And reflash. İf its not work, flash stock rom and flash custom rom. İm not sure if it will work.
Believe me, I have tried every wipe and every rom/kernel combo that is humanly possible
Then problem is hardware thats what I thought. Unfortunately. Technical support helps.