In here at the Thunder Canyon Brewery in Downtown Tucson Arizona.
Got some good 3G speeds.
Well not that good but fastest I've had haha.
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Slower than my avg lol. I avg 2.2down and 1.5 up consistently
I like to break stuff!
Nice.
Wish I had constant speeds like that.
Tucson is so behind.
Wish we had 4G already.
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devynbf said:
Nice.
Wish I had constant speeds like that.
Tucson is so behind.
Wish we had 4G already.
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I live in the middle of nowhere so our towers are packed beyond capacity and NV upgrades started a few months back
I like to break stuff!
I consistently get less than 10% of your download speed
At least Tucson has usable 3g. Come to Phoenix and you will average .3 mbps.
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ac16313 said:
At least Tucson has usable 3g. Come to Phoenix and you will average .3 mbps.
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Holy crap.
Sprint needs to get on this ASAP.
devynbf said:
In here at the Thunder Canyon Brewery in Downtown Tucson Arizona.
Got some good 3G speeds.
Well not that good but fastest I've had haha.
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Let's talk about pain... specifically the 2nd picture (I guess I'll get some responses like 'at least you have A signal'):
(Note that the first picture shows a speed test with LTE connected...)
devynbf said:
Holy crap.
Sprint needs to get on this ASAP.
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Yes they do , fast. What is funny is that my upload speed is double what my download is. Check it out.
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Anything below 100k is from my desk at work in downtown Portland, Oregon. Gotta love the 7/473 one. The 300k+ ones are from my living room in the burbs where I have wifi so I never use 3g there. I hope the LTE service is not so lackluster at work...
I'm in phoenix and my speeds are perfectly fine.
I would espect better speeds for paying 10 extra dollars a month for advance data. I have to use wifi most of the time when i am indoors.
drpal181 said:
I would espect better speeds for paying 10 extra dollars a month for advance data. I have to use wifi most of the time when i am indoors.
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well, my fastest speeds are at work (the tests at around 3am)
I work inside of a big steel building where sprint is basically the only carrier that gets perfect service inside my building. They've been upgrading the tower near my work a lot too. Last year I wasn't even getting half my current speed
My fastest speed might come close to matching your slowest test. The test result I see around hete are barly three digits, at 500kps down and 300up.
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Let's talk about pain... specifically the 2nd picture (I guess I'll get some responses like 'at least you have A signal'):
(Note that the first picture shows a speed test with LTE connected...)
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At least you have a signal
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I feel kind of bad for you guys... I average about 2.5 down at my house on 3g I'm Baltimore, 25+ on lte ..
Swyped from my Galaxy Note II on the Now Network
My area doesn't have lte. Lol.
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I hit this a few times.
Sent from the best phone on the planet, Apple take Note...........
My 3g tests used to go to reston... lol. A little better speeds but I get lte everywhere now...
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Really depressed
TirithXiato said:
My 3g tests used to go to reston... lol. A little better speeds but I get lte everywhere now...
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After reading all of these posts, I'm quite depressed and upset.
No LTE for Corpus Christi, TX
3g .03 mb
boo
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As you can see I don't have internet at home through Sprint. The Wifi was off. Decided to swich carriers. Already called sprint today and asked them to waive my early cancellation fee. He said he will call me next Tuesday.
You sure you had Wifi off? It shows it as on in the screenshot.
But you can check and see if Network Vision is upgrading soon in your neighborhood.
http://www.sprint.com/network
Overstew said:
You sure you had Wifi off? It shows it as on in the screenshot.
But you can check and see if Network Vision is upgrading soon in your neighborhood.
http://www.sprint.com/network
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Yes it was off. I turned it on and went back to the program to take the snapshot. Here is a pick with wifi on.
PS: I'm rocking your ICS theme in my Calk ROM btw. You are the man buddy.
I'm running ek02 ROM, desperado 1.3 ek02 kernel and ek02 modem. I'll flash el29 modem and see if I notice any difference.
I'll flash ek02 again and post the numbers.
Now I'm getting 200's to 450. There must be varying amounts of network traffic tonight. It's only 12:41am, so people are probably still awake and using the data network. You could try a different host like Naples. Sometimes speakeasy speedtest on a browser gives different numbers out of Atlanta. Wanna see a crazy ass screen shot with 4g that I think was a fluke?
Miami is a city being worked on now. You won't see improvements for another 2 to 3 months. The reason for all the decrease on speeds is due to the off loading sprint is doing right now
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Thats funny that you're disappointed with those speeds. Id be happy if I was getting that. Here is what really crappy looks like.
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Who isnt? Lol i think 80% of people that have sprint have crappy data speeds
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Guess I'm in the 20% here Dallas, TX ;p
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stargaterules said:
Thats funny that you're disappointed with those speeds. Id be happy if I was getting that. Here is what really crappy looks like.
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I get from 128 to 188 kbps all the time. I am surprised I got over 300 yesterday. But your numbers are really bad. I couldn't live with it for one day.
stargaterules said:
Thats funny that you're disappointed with those speeds. Id be happy if I was getting that. Here is what really crappy looks like.
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Why are you still on Sprint?! Lol I hate sprint's network, ans tthat's with me getting 100-900kbps most places
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I hate my speed too but I'm getting better speeds with el29
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Androidfreakz said:
Guess I'm in the 20% here Dallas, TX ;p
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Yes, Dallas has been fully updated. Or at least it is nearly finished
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docmarioce said:
I get from 128 to 188 kbps all the time. I am surprised I got over 300 yesterday. But your numbers are really bad. I couldn't live with it for one day.
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afive720 said:
Why are you still on Sprint?! Lol I hate sprint's network, ans tthat's with me getting 100-900kbps most places
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That's because I get 29% off from them through work, but I suspect I'll be ditching them shortly. It just isn't worth waiting for the upgrades to be completed. For comparison purposes. It took me 7 minutes to download a 6 MB app on their 3G. LOL. Thank god for WIFI.
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That's because I get 29% off from them through work, but I suspect I'll be ditching them shortly. It just isn't worth waiting for the upgrades to be completed. For comparison purposes. It took me 7 minutes to download a 6 MB app on their 3G. LOL. Thank god for WIFI.
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Correction. Waiting months or years to get to the point where Verizon is already at 4g wise, 3g is still a joke, even post upgrade.
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afive720 said:
Why are you still on Sprint?! Lol I hate sprint's network, ans tthat's with me getting 100-900kbps most places
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First world problems
I used to have Sprint and their slow data so I switched to the Galaxy Nexus with 4G LTE from Verizon. It puts my Comcast Cable to shame.
Buff McBigstuff said:
I used to have Sprint and their slow data so I switched to the Galaxy Nexus with 4G LTE from Verizon. It puts my Comcast Cable to shame.
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Amazing WOW
I am sitting in the same spot as last night at this time. Big difference in numbers. Perhaps people are in bed because there's work tomorrow morning?
This is this morning at my bedroom. Thanks to Wi-Fi I can check my email in my smartphone before going to work.
Buff McBigstuff said:
I used to have Sprint and their slow data so I switched to the Galaxy Nexus with 4G LTE from Verizon. It puts my Comcast Cable to shame.
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What's the point of all that speed though if your capped after a certain amount?
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What speed are you going on 4g? I about to sign up for sprint from boost and was thinking s2 or s3. I'm in Baltimore and I know lte isn't here yet so I'm waiting to see. My deposit is 50 bucks and a s2 is $50 and a s3 is $150
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In LA- I get around 16-20 MBA
In San Bernadino, I only get about 11mbs
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St Louis on a s2(4G wimax). Personally, I'd get an s3 and wait for lte though.
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Wtf are u talking about?? I travel ALL over LA and the best iv seen us 8mb...the usual is like 3-5..
derrickmd18 said:
What speed are you going on 4g? I about to sign up for sprint from boost and was thinking s2 or s3. I'm in Baltimore and I know lte isn't here yet so I'm waiting to see. My deposit is 50 bucks and a s2 is $50 and a s3 is $150
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My 4G speeds has decreased greatly here in Delaware, I used to be able to get speeds as high as in my sig (10-12mb down on my OG Evo), but since I had my 3D & now this phone its much lower, but right now I'm getting better speeds at home where I used to get horrible speeds as posted in this pic. One more thing, get the GS3 cuz Bmore will have LTE hopefully within the month or sooner.
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Are all of you guys on WiMax? Wtf haha... I get like 3.5 Mbps MAX in Chicago
The 4-8 Mbps are 4g speeds. 8Mbps when close to tower. The latest test is from somewhere I never get 4g. Tests in columbus, ohio
Here are mine in St. Paul, MN
Here's my result from 4G testing in Boston:
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Are all of you guys on WiMax? Wtf haha... I get like 3.5 Mbps MAX in Chicago
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Lol yeah I'm on WiMax, & its a damn joke, shat my girl get way better speeds (6-8 down) on her Skyrocket using Straight Talk on AT&Terrible's network
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What is 4G/Wimax? Sprint in PR doesn't have that. :banghead:
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These are my 4g wimax speeds down here in Miami
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These are mostly from my house out in the burbs or nearby in evening. Also one test is 3g on there. 4g speeds will vary quite a bit. I get lower when I'm in Austin on weekdays.
No more wimax for me but I used to get a good 10-12mbps
But 3g is decent now it was unbearable a month ago
Both xda and imgur are being stupid so here's a link
http://imgur.com/wGL4c
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3g is like 200kbps. 4g about 5mbps but kills my battery and makes my phone hot as hell. Sucks. Can't wait till Lte
My life for Aiur
No 4G service here in the USVI. Service has also been horrible lately. About 8-20Kbs during peak hours and 50-90Kbs during off peak hours. It unbearable and makes the smartphone experience suck compared to the continental US. The voice service also sounds like I am under water on over 50% of St. Croix.
Snazarian said:
Wtf are u talking about?? I travel ALL over LA and the best iv seen us 8mb...the usual is like 3-5..
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I get great speeds in west Hollywood and this is all trough the day. Same near Santa Monica and Venice beach.
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derrickmd18 said:
What speed are you going on 4g? I about to sign up for sprint from boost and was thinking s2 or s3. I'm in Baltimore and I know lte isn't here yet so I'm waiting to see. My deposit is 50 bucks and a s2 is $50 and a s3 is $150
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I would say go with the s3, the wait is not that much longer for LTE
Baltimore*
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http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
piscesjoey said:
Lol yeah I'm on WiMax, & its a damn joke, shat my girl get way better speeds (6-8 down) on her Skyrocket using Straight Talk on AT&Terrible's network
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Same here in Atlanta....my 4g is like 3-4mbs.. not even close to 10 !
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For me in good areas I get up to 2 mbps down on 3g and up to 13 mbps down on 4g.
Hey so I have a question for you guys. How fast are your 3G speeds? I'm asking because my gs3 won't go over 600 kb even at my best service. And my wifi is also extreamly slow. The wifi doesn't make sence to me Cuz my Droid x2 uses the same wifi and it gets triple the speed that my gs3 gets. Any one have the same problem or have a solution for this?
My WiFi is fine. 3g sucks.
Los Angeles 90019
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Here's our blazing 3G speeds in Raleigh, NC.
MadFlava said:
Here's our blazing 3G speeds in Raleigh, NC.
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Damn. Not even 56k.
I almost fell over when I ran this at my work...on one bar lol. Running totally unrooted stock LG8.
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Just ran the wifi one and earlier this morning did the speed test down the road from my house.
Edit: However... look at some of the other tests down below...signal blows up around here, although I keep getting told just wait for LTE... I'm waiting...
MadFlava said:
Here's our blazing 3G speeds in Raleigh, NC.
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LOL, that's about what I get when I'm roaming on your network(I'm with US Cellular). I thought it was just cause I was roaming.
I can't say the words "Sprint", "3G" and "Fast" in the same sentence without laughing (or crying) :laugh:
This is in the Denver area:
Ping: 366 ms
Down: 23 kbps
Up: 326 kbps
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LOL, that's about what I get when I'm roaming on your network(I'm with US Cellular). I thought it was just cause I was roaming.
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Nope.. its because the network here absolutely sucks. Ive done battle with Sprint for over a year about the crappy signal here and gotten nowhere.
Here are mine. Funny thing is I live in a very small town in Western New York and we got 2 Network Vision towers put up recently with 4 more on the way lol. But hey I'm not complaining
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Here's my results from around the St. Louis area.
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I'm also in St Louis, here are my 3G speeds and Wifi speeds
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Did another 3G speed test (out of the valley) and got much better results.
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I get about 600 here in phoenix. No 4g here
I've seen MAX almost 2 Mbps. Average speed is about 1. Pittsburgh area.
I just got 446 kbps this morning but 9507 kbps tonight. No 4g and 905 nightly cm10. It seems things run better a day or two after flashing. Could be my imagination.
OK forget it, I had the wifi turned on ... "if it's too good to be true..."
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I puked some coffee when I got this today. Proof that the Vision tower upgrades are a funky reality at the moment.
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I was in NYC, and got 1.9 mbs down in Queens, and the Bronx, as well as in DC last week.
Was in Atlanta for a short time today. Wish this was Jacksonville Florida lol.
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humdrum2009 said:
Was in Atlanta for a short time today. Wish this was Jacksonville Florida lol.
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Did you test the LTE in Jacksonville yet?
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digiblur said:
Did you test the LTE in Jacksonville yet?
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I tested twice and live in the heart of jax getting less than 7 the whole time.. is that normal
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digiblur said:
Did you test the LTE in Jacksonville yet?
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New test taken just now literally across the street from a sprint store haha in jax haha
32256 area
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Do you mean normal for Jacksonville or normal for LTE? As far as LTE, I guess it varies...Like I live in a spotty LTE area right now and pull anywhere between 5-9mbps but when I go down near Jerome Ave in the Bronx, I'm always pulling 20's. Today I got 33.29mbps in that same neighborhood. We'll all get there...hopefully sooner than later.
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Do you mean normal for Jacksonville or normal for LTE? As far as LTE, I guess it varies...Like I live in a spotty LTE area right now and pull anywhere between 5-9mbps but when I go down near Jerome Ave in the Bronx, I'm always pulling 20's. Today I got 33.29mbps in that same neighborhood. We'll all get there...hopefully sooner than later.
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Well I just noticed 4g come on today so I'm sure jax well only get better as towers turn on
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Lord Syrics Jr. said:
Well I just noticed 4g come on today so I'm sure jax well only get better as towers turn on
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Yep. Not a whole lot on just yet but enjoy the fact they are letting you guys test it way early.
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Lord Syrics Jr. said:
New test taken just now literally across the street from a sprint store haha in jax haha
32256 area
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Where was this? Can you map it next time via Sensorly?
I have been actively discovering lte sites in Jacksonville for a few weeks now. Is this off the i95/ BayMeadows exit?
This is the BayMeadows tower for me.
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I haven't seen Lte in jax
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humdrum2009 said:
I haven't seen Lte in jax
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Where in Jax are you? There's a lot of lte active now. Check out the Sensorly maps. (Sensorly.com or download the app from Google play.)
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humdrum2009 said:
I haven't seen Lte in jax
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Looks like 3 or 4 sites so far that people have found.
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Damn some of these lte speed tests are slower compared to Verizon/AT&T. Hopefully when the Sprint upgrades roll out a bit more, speeds will be faster.
That's from Arlington, VA.
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Ascertion said:
Where was this? Can you map it next time via Sensorly?
I have been actively discovering lte sites in Jacksonville for a few weeks now. Is this off the i95/ BayMeadows exit?
This is the BayMeadows tower for me.
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This is South side and bay meadows.. the publix there.. now I'm not getting above 6.5.. How did you get so high
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Lord Syrics Jr. said:
This is South side and bay meadows.. the publix there.. now I'm not getting above 6.5.. How did you get so high
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LTE is very signal strength dependent. EvDo RevA's (Sprint's 3G) speeds don't deteriorate unless it reaches a very low signal threshold. Next time you connect to the LTE site at Publix, open up your debugging menu and screenshot the LTE engineering screen and post it here.
With 6mbps, you have a rather low (-110dBm to -115 dBm signal strength). If your signal strength is high, then you should experience better speeds.
DarkManX4lf said:
Damn some of these lte speed tests are slower compared to Verizon/AT&T. Hopefully when the Sprint upgrades roll out a bit more, speeds will be faster.
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Sprint's in a position where they simply don't have the spectrum to deploy anything greater than a 5x5mhz carrier per market. This means LTE speeds will max out at about 38mbps, and even this is under extremely favorable conditions.
But worry not for Clearwire alone has more spectrum than Verizon does, and Clearwire, starting mid-2013 will be deploying LTE advanced on a 20x20mhz carrier! This means speeds will be up to 90mbps. Hang in there because even with Sprint's LTE maxing out at 38mbps, it's still very fast and the best part...unlimited.
Ascertion said:
LTE is very signal strength dependent. EvDo RevA's (Sprint's 3G) speeds don't deteriorate unless it reaches a very low signal threshold. Next time you connect to the LTE site at Publix, open up your debugging menu and screenshot the LTE engineering screen and post it here.
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How do I show this?
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Haha yes!! Just now at work (publix location)
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Lord Syrics Jr. said:
Haha yes!! Just now at work (publix location)
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##debug# dialer code, sprint is the password. Lte engineering screen will have everything listed there.
Nice speeds.
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But since LTE will be on every tower unlike the other carriers, there will be less people on each LTE carrier than the other guys.
And do you really need higher than 35 megabits on your phone... hell no. I'd be happy with 3 or 4!
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But since LTE will be on every tower unlike the other carriers, there will be less people on each LTE carrier than the other guys.
And do you really need higher than 35 megabits on your phone... hell no. I'd be happy with 3 or 4!
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Haha yeah I don't really see the point in it either except for downloading large files.
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I just switched from Sprint and I have to say that I'm extremely impressed. I'm in Canton, Ohio and Tmobile is faster then both Sprint and Verizon.
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Im in socal!
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this is at my house where I have awful signal... look at my bars
I wish I would have given Tmobile a chance much sooner than I did.
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I check my speed from time to time here are my latest results the .07 is when I was throttled I hit my 5gb limit on purpose.
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metro atlanta. with 4 bars best I got was 26down. 10up. with 2 bars it's around 10/1.5
Here ya go!
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How are you guys getting these speed? I'm getting an average of 3MB to 5mps down and 1mps up in Downtown LA.
Speed tests
Eastbay ca
Did get 21+
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east bay san francisco.
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ptfdmedic said:
I wish I would have given Tmobile a chance much sooner than I did.
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Same here! I just switched as well, data speeds are anywhere from 10-100x faster than Sprint. Seriously don't know why I put up with Sprint for so long...
Anyway, good to see you over here. My last phone was a Sprint Epic, so I remember you from those boards. Even used your ROM exclusively for a long time
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How are you guys getting these speed? I'm getting an average of 3MB to 5mps down and 1mps up in Downtown LA.
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I was assume it could be multiple things. Buildings in your area, interference, and the amount of ppl using T-Mobile in your area can all cause you to get less than expected speeds.
Sprint vs Tmob
ptfdmedic said:
I just switched from Sprint and I have to say that I'm extremely impressed. I'm in Canton, Ohio and Tmobile is faster then both Sprint and Verizon.
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Hi ptf, I have the Note II on Sprint and am about to go return it and switch to TMob, are you happy you did? I am only worried about differences in the phone (if there are any negatives) and of course coverage and speeds.
I love that Tmob is GSM since I do travel int. And I can get a small bus plan so my bill is only $50/month compared to $70 w Sprint.
I just replied to you in the Sprint forum
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Wind mobile in Canada where we don't have DC HSPA+ ):
My speeds are adequate for my needs...
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Mostly getting 12-16 Mbps in the area I live, most I've seen was 22Mbps / 3.5 Mbps (upload)
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Any NYC speeds test??? i wanna get this phone this week
Not too shabby
To contrast, this is on my wifi at home. For shame, Cox.