Hiya,
My phone is a work phone and I've rooted it and installed Cyanogen rom on it, however encryption doesn't work as part of that rom. For me to be able to use the phone as a work device I need to encrypt it. If I tell it to encrypt the phone it never seems to do anything, I get the green android appear and that's it I have left it overnight before and it never seems to complete or give me any kind of progress bar. Any ideas how I can fix this please ?
Regards,
Martin
brayman said:
Hiya,
My phone is a work phone and I've rooted it and installed Cyanogen rom on it, however encryption doesn't work as part of that rom. For me to be able to use the phone as a work device I need to encrypt it. If I tell it to encrypt the phone it never seems to do anything, I get the green android appear and that's it I have left it overnight before and it never seems to complete or give me any kind of progress bar. Any ideas how I can fix this please ?
Regards,
Martin
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if you want to know something then ask in the rom thread....but where do you tried to encypt it? in the settings or where? and which encrypt do you mean? it should work nicely
I'm assuming here you are trying to add an account as either Exchange or a Google Apps domain controlled by your employer and thus you are getting the security pop-ups telling you to add a PIN and encrypt the storage. What you'll find that really sucks is that once encrypted you can't flash updates to CM through the recovery anymore.
Try this app: Enhanced Email $9.99.
It will let you sync without needing to enable all of the security features on your device. I highly recommend you stick with a PIN code though!
Sorry for the self-advertisement: but encryption does work in my 4.2 AOSP ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013506
Note that you should switch to the 'bigdata' layout in order to avoid any data leakage by an unencrypted sdcard.
One-X-master said:
if you want to know something then ask in the rom thread....but where do you tried to encypt it? in the settings or where? and which encrypt do you mean? it should work nicely
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I thought I did, ok. Yes if I go to settings and encrypt on the phone that way and it doesn't work.
navalynt said:
I'm assuming here you are trying to add an account as either Exchange or a Google Apps domain controlled by your employer and thus you are getting the security pop-ups telling you to add a PIN and encrypt the storage. What you'll find that really sucks is that once encrypted you can't flash updates to CM through the recovery anymore.
Try this app: Enhanced Email $9.99.
It will let you sync without needing to enable all of the security features on your device. I highly recommend you stick with a PIN code though!
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Yes that's exactly It, Our work email is on Google now so its the Google apps problem. I don't mind if I cant flash updates as I haven't found any problems with the latest nightlies for a long time. I may try that if there is no other solutions dont really wanna spend my own money getting my work email working .
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Hi fellows,
So i bought that S810 beast and i am fully enjoying it
Only one of a sudden, i found a bug which i thought it might not be that annoying, but it turned out to be freaking me out
I can not remove the lockscreen protection back to the normal slide lockscreen for an unknown reason that i failed to discover.
It says,
Disabled by administrator, encryption policy or credential storage
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I have nothing in the administrators, my internal storage is not encrypted and i haven't touched that credential thing!
So i guess that the only way out is to "clear the credential storage"
Now the question is, is there any way out of this problem rather than factory reseting the phone or clearing the credentials?? If not, then can anybody tell me what are the side effects of deleting the credential certificates ? AFAIK it affects VPN stuff, which i never used on my phone and i am sure i won't use it! Are there any other side effects?
P.S. I am not rooted no need to void my warranty, yet
Thank You!
Did you set up your phone to sync with an Exchange account?
kwolf said:
Did you set up your phone to sync with an Exchange account?
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What do u mean by "Exchange account" ??!
I have my google account, whatsapp account and a facebook account to be in the sync ...
Microsoft exchange email. Usually used for business.
kwolf said:
Microsoft exchange email. Usually used for business.
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No i don't have microsoft exchange account.
Here is my list of accounts i have in the attached screenshot
Anyone can help me with that ?
If no one knows the culprit
Maybe some one can tell me what are the side effects of clearing the credential storage ??!
What apps are granted device administration privileges? Maybe here would be a good start to look at...
ademmer said:
What apps are granted device administration privileges? Maybe here would be a good start to look at...
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AcDisplay, Greenify, Android device manager only
Nothing special
Screenshot attached!
Try removing AcDisplay from your device.
Might be AcDisplay indeed. Have you tried to remove it?
fernandezhjr said:
Try removing AcDisplay from your device.
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ademmer said:
Might be AcDisplay indeed. Have you tried to remove it?
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Well this issue was there before i install the apps
Only android device manager was there once i detected the incident
However i will try to remove them and see if there is anything changed
You could also reboot into safe mode, see if that solves the problem (which would indicate that an installed app is the source). To go into safe mode, press and hold the power button until the power menu appears and the touch & hold 'power off' until prompted to reboot into safe mode.
computerslayer said:
You could also reboot into safe mode, see if that solves the problem (which would indicate that an installed app is the source). To go into safe mode, press and hold the power button until the power menu appears and the touch & hold 'power off' until prompted to reboot into safe mode.
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No luck
Should i just clear the credential certificates ?? What are the side effects??
Mostafa Wael said:
Hi fellows,
So i bought that S810 beast and i am fully enjoying it
Only one of a sudden, i found a bug which i thought it might not be that annoying, but it turned out to be freaking me out
I can not remove the lockscreen protection back to the normal slide lockscreen for an unknown reason that i failed to discover.
It says,
I have nothing in the administrators, my internal storage is not encrypted and i haven't touched that credential thing!
So i guess that the only way out is to "clear the credential storage"
Now the question is, is there any way out of this problem rather than factory reseting the phone or clearing the credentials?? If not, then can anybody tell me what are the side effects of deleting the credential certificates ? AFAIK it affects VPN stuff, which i never used on my phone and i am sure i won't use it! Are there any other side effects?
P.S. I am not rooted no need to void my warranty, yet
Thank You!
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Navigate to /data/system/password or gesture (Pattern) and delete that entry depending on what type of password you have, reboot done.
If you are unable to get into the phone you will be able to do this using the file manager within TWRP.
PS: Not 100% if it'll fix the isse due to an app locking down the phone but it certainly removes the pin / pattern or password from your phone, so should work.
dladz said:
Navigate to /data/system/password or gesture (Pattern) and delete that entry depending on what type of password you have, reboot done.
If you are unable to get into the phone you will be able to do this using the file manager within TWRP.
PS: Not 100% if it'll fix the isse due to an app locking down the phone but it certainly removes the pin / pattern or password from your phone, so should work.
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I am not rooted and i have nothing custom installed
Can this be done via adb ?
Mostafa Wael said:
I am not rooted and i have nothing custom installed
Can this be done via adb ?
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Ah i see, sorry mate, then no you need root access to be able to see lower level files.
In all fairness, I would say to back up your data and flash another ruu / rom, or even factory reset the device and be careful what you install, I'm assuming that it's something to do with an app you have installed or an email which needs to lock down your device.
I would do that, back up, wipe and go lightly with the installing of apps until you find the culprit, if that doesn't work then I would flash another RUU.
But I imagine it will.
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Ah i see, sorry mate, then no you need root access to be able to see lower level files.
In all fairness, I would say to back up your data and flash another ruu / rom, or even factory reset the device and be careful what you install, I'm assuming that it's something to do with an app you have installed or an email which needs to lock down your device.
I would do that, back up, wipe and go lightly with the installing of apps until you find the culprit, if that doesn't work then I would flash another RUU.
But I imagine it will.
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Ohh, then i need some free time
Thanks for the help
As a workaround, i used smart lock
I set up home as trusted place and turned on body detection
Sweet! Password when needed only
Mostafa Wael said:
Ohh, then i need some free time
Thanks for the help
As a workaround, i used smart lock
I set up home as trusted place and turned on body detection
Sweet! Password when needed only
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Nice one.
click thanks instead of saying it fella Glad you're back up and running.
Actually it turned out to be even better with Smart Lock options like trusted devices "when connected to my bluetooth speakers/handsfree" and trusted place "put my home address here" and also turned on the "body detection"
In this way i am prompted to type my PIN only when needed :good:
Thanks for the help guys
Mostafa Wael said:
Actually it turned out to be even better with Smart Lock options like trusted devices "when connected to my bluetooth speakers/handsfree" and trusted place "put my home address here" and also turned on the "body detection"
In this way i am prompted to type my PIN only when needed :good:
Thanks for the help guys
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Body detection? Crazy that. Will be checking that out, cheers
Hi, there!
I heard there is a method for the S8+ where you can root your phone without tripping Knox. It isn't the best root method and it has its limitations, but it would do just fine for my needs.
Is there such method for the S9+?
Thanks!
Anyone?
CapBlackShot said:
Anyone?
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No
*Detection* said:
No
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And no developers are planning to create one, that we know of? I only need root to make Cerberus a system app. In case the smartphone is stolen and gets hard reset, the app will still be there, hidden. But without root it seems impossible.
CapBlackShot said:
And no developers are planning to create one, that we know of? I only need root to make Cerberus a system app. In case the smartphone is stolen and gets hard reset, the app will still be there, hidden. But without root it seems impossible.
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KNOX is an e-fuse, once tripped that's it forever, no reversing, nothing devs can do
FRP lock is your hard reset security, unless they know your Google login they cannot access the device anyway
And if they have the knowledge to flash certain firmwares and bypass the lock, your system root app wouldn't be of any use either anyway, so....
*Detection* said:
KNOX is an e-fuse, once tripped that's it forever, no reversing, nothing devs can do
FRP lock is your hard reset security, unless they know your Google login they cannot access the device anyway
And if they have the knowledge to flash certain firmwares and bypass the lock, your system root app wouldn't be of any use either anyway, so....
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That's very interesting. Can't believe I never heard of this before.
Will the device actually get wiped and then ask for my Google account or will it ask for my Google account before getting wiped? If the first option I mentioned is true, then Cerberus will be gone and I still won't be able to locate my cellphone in case it gets stolen, I'm assuming.
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That's very interesting. Can't believe I never heard of this before.
Will the device actually get wiped and then ask for my Google account or will it ask for my Google account before getting wiped? If the first option I mentioned is true, then Cerberus will be gone and I still won't be able to locate my cellphone in case it gets stolen, I'm assuming.
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It will get wiped first, it asks for the Google account because it was wiped from recovery and not from inside of Android, meaning anyone could have done it
It will not allow anyone past the Google account request, similar to when iPhones are locked to iCloud, you can wipe it as many times as you like but it will always request the Google account
For example, I steal your phone with Cerberus installed, I cannot access your phone so the most likely thing I`ll try is factory reset from recovery, this will wipe the phone and request your Google account login to access it again, which I do not have
Next thing I would try (If I knew about it) was flash stock firmware over the top, which will wipe again this time removing your Cerberus app, but again it will not prevent the Google login request
Final thing I would try would be FRP bypass to get past your Google account login, and if they manage that they have access to your phone, but it is wiped and Cerberus is gone
End of the day, no mod/app will survive the phone being flashed as the system partition is replaced with stock again, and the wipe will reset the data partition where user apps and data are
Best thing to do is enable the Google security settings for find my phone, lock and erase, and enable it to send GPS of last location when the battery is getting low, that way you can track it online until it is turned off/wiped
I have this tablet which is being restricted to use due to Knox. It appears to be for some vendor. It takes over the device even though it's not connected to the internet and doesn't allow me to do anything with it. I have read all the threads I can find and tried every possible option through Odin to install new firmware.
I understand this model is a giant pain due to Verizon and I may not be able to root this for customization. But is there not a way to get a factory clean firmware on here that doesn't have this Knox vendor customization? If not, is this good for anything or just throw it in the trash?
popguru said:
I have this tablet which is being restricted to use due to Knox. It appears to be for some vendor. It takes over the device even though it's not connected to the internet and doesn't allow me to do anything with it. I have read all the threads I can find and tried every possible option through Odin to install new firmware.
I understand this model is a giant pain due to Verizon and I may not be able to root this for customization. But is there not a way to get a factory clean firmware on here that doesn't have this Knox vendor customization? If not, is this good for anything or just throw it in the trash?
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Same issue but I added another user and it works fine because knox isn't running device admin. Owner doesn't work and either does usb debugging. I'm thinking of calling know for remote support.
I beat frp on this same tablet before
popguru said:
I have this tablet which is being restricted to use due to Knox. It appears to be for some vendor. It takes over the device even though it's not connected to the internet and doesn't allow me to do anything with it. I have read all the threads I can find and tried every possible option through Odin to install new firmware.
I understand this model is a giant pain due to Verizon and I may not be able to root this for customization. But is there not a way to get a factory clean firmware on here that doesn't have this Knox vendor customization? If not, is this good for anything or just throw it in the trash?
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Can u create a geust user account ? If so activate this accou t log into that account download the apk and run the very popular one click root app that i wont say but kinda rhymes with bingo shoot any ways run the apk (it wont root your device) and instal it the run the root app itll get to 99% and then quit but the entire device will be like outta the box new as far as the os goes you wont have frp lock or anything
Sorry for the run on sentence and idk how old this thread is but anyway and shout ouf to whoesever red car is with lisence plate xda guy in canada just not the country
Grimlinkush said:
Can u create a geust user account ? If so activate this accou t log into that account download the apk and run the very popular one click root app that i wont say but kinda rhymes with bingo shoot any ways run the apk (it wont root your device) and instal it the run the root app itll get to 99% and then quit but the entire device will be like outta the box new as far as the os goes you wont have frp lock or anything
Sorry for the run on sentence and idk how old this thread is but anyway and shout ouf to whoesever red car is with lisence plate xda guy in canada just not the country
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Thank you for the response. This is still very much an active question for me.
I'm able to create the user account, install and start the install for the mentioned apk. However, it stops at 90%, and I get this error "Root Failed" Error Code 0x166508. It recommends I use the PC version, but USB Debugging is disabled in main account and I can't even access Developer tools for this new account.
Additionally, I'm unable to use the Home button. I get the following message "Security policy prevents use of Home key"
Seems like no matter what is suggested, there is something new that is blocking this from being used.
Is it possible to use the Shield TV without a Google Account?
Does somebody know a way?
Maybe with a custom firmware?
I want to know that too. I had a foster device but I find not an clearly answer yet. do you?
EDIT:
Perhaps this could help us.
EDIT2:
surprisingly I found a key-kombo to get an special menu. You just need to put ↑ ↑ ← ← on the remote. Then you can choose to skip-login. Now we need to know more.
dunno y u wouldnt want goog signed in.. i suppose if u get thrugh setup then can ust adb sideload stuff
Instead of sideloading stuff you can use Aurora store to get all the updates you need and more.
Just once you need to sideload the store: AuroraStore_3.1.5.apk
Source
So it is possible to use the device without a google account then?
I even went a step further and rooted my stock OS shield and deleted all the bloatware that came with it. Then installed only jellyfin (alternative to plex) to stream from my home NAS + put the device on its own VLAN without internet access.
Even this process requires a google account to setup.. WOuld be nice if I could just remove that google requirement if Im not even planning to use it on the internet
cHECKjAM said:
So it is possible to use the device without a google account then?
I even went a step further and rooted my stock OS shield and deleted all the bloatware that came with it. Then installed only jellyfin (alternative to plex) to stream from my home NAS + put the device on its own VLAN without internet access.
Even this process requires a google account to setup.. WOuld be nice if I could just remove that google requirement if Im not even planning to use it on the internet
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See my EDIT2 here. Just use the key-combo.
Without google means in this case that you never connect your device with google.
← ↑ ← ← not work android 8.1
Sorry, forget to mention that you need the shield dev rom.
Perhaps with non-dev and magisk root it could be possible to Flash an apk from the dev Rom but atm it is just possible to skip the Google login with the official nvidia dev-rom.
Greetings by Idijt
I find it if you first set it up with account you just go in and delete the account and turn off auto login.
I have both versions dev and retail both work the same as for deleting the account and turning off the auto login.
Make sure you turn developer tool on though
I dont know about newer firmware versions, but i remember going through the initial setup and skipping everything that gave that option until the create google account screen, where i couldn't go any further, i simply pulled the power plug, put it back in , and i was able to skip the google account creation.
Obviously i dont recommend folks pulling the power cord while system is runing on a regularly basis, didn't seem to be any ill affects, but i would suggest that you have nothing hooked up to the shield like harddrives and such just incase.
I cant remember for sure, but i think there is a way to force a reboot through a connected keyboard and key combination (search engine) while system is running which is a more elegant solution if possible
my shield 2019 pro got an ota today.. i backed it up and can upload it if anyones interested.. seemed to have quite a bit of fixes for audio and some issues on vizio tvs etc
I_did_it_just_tmrrow said:
Sorry, forget to mention that you need the shield dev rom.
Perhaps with non-dev and magisk root it could be possible to Flash an apk from the dev Rom but atm it is just possible to skip the Google login with the official nvidia dev-rom.
Greetings by Idijt
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perhaps if they already got it set up to do that they probably already bypassed it.. just sayin lol
elliwigy said:
my shield 2019 pro got an ota today.. i backed it up and can upload it if anyones interested.. seemed to have quite a bit of fixes for audio and some issues on vizio tvs etc
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You can do a:
Code:
adb shell pm list packages -f
zxhwk said:
I find it if you first set it up with account you just go in and delete the account and turn off auto login.
I have both versions dev and retail both work the same as for deleting the account and turning off the auto login.
Make sure you turn developer tool on though
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Yes, this is an option but you need to create an Google account. Yes, you can delete this after the setup but you probably keep it. I dont want to create an account and I dont want to share my informations with google.This should be the last possible fix for this.
banderos101 said:
I dont know about newer firmware versions, but i remember going through the initial setup and skipping everything that gave that option until the create google account screen, where i couldn't go any further, i simply pulled the power plug, put it back in , and i was able to skip the google account creation.
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That sounds nice! Can you tell us what os version and what device you are running?
banderos101 said:
I cant remember for sure, but i think there is a way to force a reboot through a connected keyboard and key combination (search engine) while system is running which is a more elegant solution if possible
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If you find the key-combo, pls tell us. I dont find anything.
ByTheWay:
I uninstall a lot of google services/apps. I will do a
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adb shell pm list packages -f
for you, later this day with my google packages where still left on my device.
Yes I know you do not want to share neither do I . I just made a bogus account and never use it that is all
I use a custom Hal launcher on them because I could never get Nova launcher to work correctly
Both of mine ever since I got them Both are Model P2897 and have 8.0.0 security patch DEC 2018, kernel 4.9.109-tegra-g4fa2f5b [email protected] #1, Sun mar 3 15:08:57 PST 2019. , Build OPR6.170623.010.3507953_1441.7411, Shield SW Version 7.2.3(30.6.131.70)
@zxhwk what kind of modification does it have? The HAL Launcher.
banderos101 said:
I dont know about newer firmware versions, but i remember going through the initial setup and skipping everything that gave that option until the create google account screen, where i couldn't go any further, i simply pulled the power plug, put it back in , and i was able to skip the google account creation.
Obviously i dont recommend folks pulling the power cord while system is runing on a regularly basis, didn't seem to be any ill affects, but i would suggest that you have nothing hooked up to the shield like harddrives and such just incase.
I cant remember for sure, but i think there is a way to force a reboot through a connected keyboard and key combination (search engine) while system is running which is a more elegant solution if possible
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This does not work. I tried a lot to skip the google-login with non-dev rom without success.
Option A:
flash the current dev rom and to the mentioned key-combo to skip the login
Option B:
just type in a fake or real google login and login. Then disable the account.
I_did_it_just_tmrrow said:
This does not work. I tried a lot to skip the google-login with non-dev rom without success.
Option A:
flash the current dev rom and to the mentioned key-combo to skip the login
Option B:
just type in a fake or real google login and login. Then disable the account.
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it can only b skipped on dev firmware
elliwigy said:
it can only b skipped on dev firmware
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Yes it can only be skipped on dev firmware. twhen I guess I would say that the "SetupWraithPrebuild.apk" checked the some system files, perhaps the build.prop and if you not running the a dev-rom you can not skip-google login with the key-kombo.
But some good news are that Steel01 released an experimental LOS16 (pie) rom.
See here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82142523&postcount=432
thanks for the participation, i thought i was really the only one who didn't wanna login with a gmail account since it took some months for your replies.
i created a new throaway gmail account in the meantime, but it was not easy because google requires a sms verification in my country. i had to use one of these sms websites for that.
nearly all televisions and branded boxes with the android tv os let you skip the google account login during the initial setup.
since nvidia does support this product quite well with constant software updates, they'll probably consider to implement this feature in an upcoming firmware update if we are vocal enough on their official forums and request the 'skip login' frequently?
@uigger @I_did_it_just_tmrrow
How did you guys create throw-away google accounts.. I could never get any of those SMS verification services to work.. I think I tried like 20 different numbers there. All are used already..
I would also love to try lineageOS on the shield but project seems to not update at all since many months and also dev is not answering in forum anymore.
You think it still works good on 2019 shield Pro ? Is it safe to try it and easily revert to default if not.. ?
Hi Guys. My device is SM-950F and I was able to root with the Latest TWRP and Magisk 20.1 .
My installing sequence was;
flashing TWRP after enabling OEM UNLOCK
flashing the encryption and lock bypass zips through TWRP right after restarting to recovery.
Installing Elementx 2.11 together with MAGISK 20.1 via TWRP
Finally Restarted the system without choosing the option to install TWRP App
Set up all welcoming pages without setting up any accounts because I already have my backup ready via Smart Switch
I tried to set up my Samsung Account with the correct password afterwards, it showed me the agreement and so on... pressed agree and it said " Process Failed" and sent me back to login page and this loop continued whenever I wanted to set Samsung Pass as well.
I tried to set up Lock Screen with fingerprint which forced me to set up either pattern,pin or password in the beginning. I setup the pattern but couldn't back it up on Samsung cloud so LockScreen does not stay on what I set because of that I guess . When you set a pin , it doesn't accept your pin either as well as password. As if it is not enough , when you restart your phone you are faced with the restart loop where the sim card pin screen appears and disappears after 10 seconds same thing. You can not start your system unless you go back to recovery and flash an official rom again
Is there something I should do after restarting the system like installing Ex Kernel Manager app which I figured is not a free app and enable something within the app or download a patch within Magisk Manager for Samsung not to see the root. Because without rooting everything works flawlessly on the same rom :crying:
Please help!!!
Update: Ok guys I solved it. After researching and trying some other new things I found out that I needed to use TGP Kernel instead of Element X which fixed all my problems
I hope someone else might also benefit from this thread because it drove me crazy to not to be able to use my phone for 1 week ...
By the way I will not give his name but someone wanted me to contact him directly via hangout and asked me to send them some screenshots and so on and when I asked him why he wanted to help me via hangouts but not here so that everyone could benefit from the solution he said that he is using a server to fix problems. I guess some hacker trying to benefit from people's difficult situations. I blocked him immidiately. Do you guys think I am wright ? Should I expose him to you guys or to the admins ???
uraz said:
By the way I will not give his name but someone wanted me to contact him directly via hangout and asked me to send them some screenshots and so on and when I asked him why he wanted to help me via hangouts but not here so that everyone could benefit from the solution he said that he is using a server to fix problems. I guess some hacker trying to benefit from people's difficult situations. I blocked him immidiately. Do you guys think I am wright ? Should I expose him to you guys or to the admins ???
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Do not do anything outside at xda. I had the same thing where somone wanted to help on on hangouts using telegram. Just dont talk with them
uraz said:
By the way I will not give his name but someone wanted me to contact him directly via hangout and asked me to send them some screenshots and so on and when I asked him why he wanted to help me via hangouts but not here so that everyone could benefit from the solution he said that he is using a server to fix problems. I guess some hacker trying to benefit from people's difficult situations. I blocked him immidiately. Do you guys think I am wright ? Should I expose him to you guys or to the admins ???
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Do not do anything outside at xda. I had the same thing where somone wanted to help on on hangouts using telegram. Just dont talk with them
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Telegram is a bit different in groups. But yea most of these guys will want some form of payment. A lot of us use Telegram now just cause of the quickness and capabilities