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1) What is: Nandroid, Titanium Backup, Rom Manager, Estrong Manager, AmonRa
to be specific - do I need all of them or just 1-2 of them?
2) What is the difference?
I read some perfer Clockwork Recover while other says there has been issues with it but AmonRa hasnt.
3)Answered
4) Do I really have to WIPE every time I switch (Flash) Rom?
I have read few posts that mention they don't do it and never had an issue.
What is the purpose of Wiping?
5) AOSP?? huh new jargon (working on it)
6) Answered
7) Confirm if im doing this right:
Download (new-rom.zip) - move to sd card - do one of the following: (nandroid, titanium or both?) - turn off phone, turn on to recovery mode, wipe (optional?), factory reset (optional?), wipe cache/delv (optional?), install zip, yada yada yada...?
8) What happens if I get (insert ROM) and open it's zip, remove the stuff I want out than rezip and load? good idea or bad idea?
9) What is a Launcher? how many types of Launcher are there? Adw, Pro, X, Y, Z?
I'll think of more later on. Sorry for the massive noob question. Im constantly reading the dev section forums and seeing several jargons im not fully understanding and alot of apps that some uses over the other.
dude, these are beyond noob questions.
every question in your post can easily be answered with a few minutes of searching.
I'm almost tempted to answer your questions but you need to learn this stuff, and not by having it spoon-fed to you, not to mention the subject matters you ask about would take a great deal of my precious time to explain. You read enough to get your phone rooted without bricking it, keep up the reading.
We all learned a ton of new stuff when we first got into android phones. Those with LINUX experience had a shorter learning curve, I for one had zero experience with LINUX. And most of us learned it by SEARCHING and READING. The more of this stuff you learn by your own research the better, you will have an actual understanding of how these things work.
If you want I will answer ONE of the above questions, in depth. Your choice..
Im constantly reading and I getting alot of contradiction answers. Thus im trying to break each one apart on pro/con. I guess my main concern that a search won't find an answer would be:
6) How do I get access into the Internal Memory?
caused I have searched using (internal storage, internal memory) and been unable to find an answer to it.
grrgrrgrr said:
Im constantly reading and I getting alot of contradiction answers. Thus im trying to break each one apart on pro/con. I guess my main concern that a search won't find an answer would be:
6) How do I get access into the Internal Memory?
caused I have searched using (internal storage, internal memory) and been unable to find an answer to it.
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Get a file explorer. They work very similarly to explorer windows in Windows. You'll be able to see the file structure, remove files you don't want, add ones you want, move stuff around (which is especially useful for managing your sdcard)
I prefer Root Explorer, but it's a paid app. If you want a free option just to get your feet wet then get Astro File Manager from the market and start poking around just DO NOT DELETE ANYTHING unless you KNOW what it is and KNOW you don't want it anymore.
One tip regarding removing apps.. if you're not sure what the outcome will be you can add something like ".bak" to the end of the filename which essentially makes the file invisible to the system without removing it yet.
Although if it's a system critical apk then you might get a boot loop, in which case you will need a nandroid backup ready to restore.
what im currently doing now is constantly flashing 2.2 stock
I read titanium removes apps and I learned Sprint Zone = promotional.apk that is required to stay on to use *2 *3 dial...
But the .bak thing is nice, basically if I can't remove it, I still be able not to see it.
now as far as the .bak is concern - where do I rename it from? from the root explorer app? just long press it & rename the .xxx to .bak? or .xxx.bak?
you do not need sprint zone for anything
rename or remove files using a file explorer, and I don't know what you mean by "if I can't remove it".. you can remove any file using a file explorer
I usually just add .bak to whatever extension is already there. So if you're using LauncherPro and want to see if removing rosie.apk causes any problems (it wont, you can do without it just fine as long as you have another launcher installed) rename it to rosie.apk.bak and reboot
alright, btw I tried astro and it only shows me the folders/app of my SD card.
Im not looking to mess with those.
I want to view the Internal phone memory and possibly the Bios.
Second, with Astrofile - Let's say Amazonmp3 - im able to find that but within the stock2.2 rom.zip - removing from that zip wont change anything though unless I re-flash it, correct?
I am under the impression, once I flash a rom.zip, I can remove that rom.zip out of the sd card. the info is stored internally or in the bios. That is where I want to get acess to.
I know through titanium - if I find amazonmp3 and un-install from there, it removes from my phone.
there is no bios on android
astro's default view is the sdcard, you can go up one level and see all the system folders
yes, once you flash the rom you can remove the rom's zip from your sdcard but you might as well leave it in case you need to reflash it
Hi all,
I have been a winmob user for over 5 years and i know pretty much everything about them. (see join date) Though 3 days ago i got a a8183 desire.
My god i have a lot to learn about Android. Winmob seemed so much simplier to pick apart with registry and custom roms.
Anyways i have been reading thread after thread for days yet i still have a couple of questions that i cannot get clear answers for.
I have a a8183 telstra desire running on optus. I have updated to the latest offical 2.2 ROM. (Everyone mentions OTA (over the air) though i downloaded it and installed thru windows).
So i would appreciate if someone could help me out with my questions/assumptions.
1. From what i have read you cannot r00t a froyo OS. Is that right? Though i have found an app z4root that will do it temporarily until reboot. Unrevoked doesnt seem to work.
2. To change system files you need not only root though you need the clockworkmod recovery part of the bootloader. (eg. to replace HOST file for adblocking).
3. You need permanent r00t to install the clockworkmod (so i cannot do this).
4. You cannot remove default ROM apps from your phone without the clockworkmod.
5. You need clockworkmod to install custom ROMs.
So from what i gather.. r00t is good. though really only cause it gets you the clockworkmod recovery which is where you can really hack it.
And to get this i need to downgrade to 2.1, r00t, clockwork then use a hacked rom for 2.2?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
hi sage, i too came from windows mobile so i know how you feel, lucky for me i jumped on the android bandwagon earlier with the htc hero, after i got bored with my HD1, anyway your wrong on quite a few points, so i'll point you in the right direction.
1) the latest version of unrevoked (www.unrevoked.com/recovery) is more than able to root the froyo roms, its a one click app and can root your device in minutes
2) to easly modify system files you need s-off (this is equivalent to HSPL on wm devices) after you have rooted, you need to search for alpharev, this is a linux live cd, you just burn it and boot it and it will security unlock your device.
3) when you download and run unrevoked, it will not only root your device but insatall the latest version of clockworkmod recovery. (just hold vol down and power when your device is off to access hboot, and choose recovery from the list) so unrevoked kills 2 birds with one stone
4) to remove the apps in the /system/ partition there are 2 ways, from recovery using adb, or if you flash the s-off mod, you can remove them directly from your device using a file manager.
5) yes you need clockworkmod or another custom recovery to install custom roms, but now you know how to do it, thats not a problem
Hi Sage,
If you're looking for an easier way to get rid of all the Telstra apps (more like a blob of links really ) on your phone you may want to try one of the stock HTC WWE ROMs. It's clean and you can flash it via exe, just like in WM. The latest RUU I believe is the 2.29.405.2. Also, be aware of the risks of rooting your phone.
thanks for your response guys
Ok so i am now r00ted and running Leedroid's WWE ROM! (thank you!) it was actually pretty easy.
I think unrevoked was failing cause i was using a USB HUB.
OK so now i just want to remove some more of the default apps that come with it.
So i will try alpharev to security unlock my device. (is this permanent or if i reflash my rom it will come back?)
once i have done this i can then delete anything i like thru r00t explorer?
At this stage i am trying to just make some more room for apps. As a number of them wont move to SD Card.
A couple of last questions if i may. I have an new SD Card on order. Am i able to simply copy everything from my existing SD to my new and then swap it over in my phone and it will all be ok? Or do i need 'clone' it with some tool?
Where in the system paths do i remove 'shortcuts' within all apps? (or even simply rename them.)
Much appreciate your help. Android is growing on me. I especially love adb logcat!
ok.. i am now security off'd alpharev worked a treat.
i am now using r00t explorer to try and delete items from /system/app though they come up read-only so i cannot delete them
i take when i get to remove these the phone will have more stoage space for apps yeah?
i also still cannot find where the all apps shortcuts sit! (so i can rename/remove).
and lastly now i have the alpharev bootloader so gonna google how to change that
i did use the Leedroid apps2sd ROM. though most of my apps are still going to phone memory and i cant move them across.
Is there a fix for this? i guess once i work out how to delete these read-only files ill be ok anyway.
Unfortunately removing system apps wont give you more space to install apps, they are stored under a different partition, /system and /data are not on the same disk so you can save as much space on /system as you want but it won't affect /data at all.
With running out of space you have a few choices:
Go to settings..applications..then manage and move as many apps to SD as you can. This is fro-yo apps2sd, not all data is moved and not all apps can be moved, so you will probably run out of space again anyway.
Or
Reboot into recovery and partition your sdcard to create an ext partition, when you boot your rom ALL apps will be moved to the ext partition leaving lots of free space. Backup your sdcard before you partition it, you will lose all data.
Sage said:
ok.. i am now security off'd alpharev worked a treat.
1) i am now using r00t explorer to try and delete items from /system/app though they come up read-only so i cannot delete them
2) i take when i get to remove these the phone will have more stoage space for apps yeah?
3) i also still cannot find where the all apps shortcuts sit! (so i can rename/remove).
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1) Press on Remount as R/O, this should allow you to delete/replace system stuff & ringtones, fonts...etc.
2)No, because apps install to data/apps & not system/apps.
3)You mean like the applicatiuon menu when we used to delete shortcuts or rename them? Hahaha man that was sooooooooooooo long time ago for me. Anyway, the applications installed are displayer & you can't hide them or rearrange them like Winmo. You might want to try Launcher Pro to hide apps in the apps drawer.
If you need more info, ask freely because 2 years ago I went through the same
mr.r9 said:
1) Press on Remount as R/O, this should allow you to delete/replace system stuff & ringtones, fonts...etc. Typo..You meant R/W
2)No, because apps install to data/apps & not system/apps.
3)You mean like the applicatiuon menu when we used to delete shortcuts or rename them? Hahaha man that was sooooooooooooo long time ago for me. Anyway, the applications installed are displayer & you can't hide them or rearrange them like Winmo. You might want to try Launcher Pro to hide apps in the apps drawer.
If you need more info, ask freely because 2 years ago I went through the same
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Hmm..actually the new MTD partition table hack should be able to free space on the /system, adjusting partitions with less for /system and /cache and more for /data/app should give enough space..Though I'm not sure if he wants to try this right now, since it's considered an advanced task and maybe he'd like to get more accustomed to Android before attempting it? His wish though..
And well, there's yet another method to remove system apps, other than the other two methods. This is to modify the zip file of the custom rom to remove the actual apks from /system and reflashing it on top of the actual flash..
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And well, there's yet another method to remove system apps, other than the other two methods. This is to modify the zip file of the custom rom to remove the actual apks from /system and reflashing it on top of the actual flash..
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Ohh yes indeed. OP, you can edit the zip before installing it to your device. You can remove/replace application in system/data and fonts...etc. Just remember to change signature verification to off in your recovery.
my god. i have spent days on this baby and im only barely scratching the surface
much appreciate all your help guys!
ok.. so its time to use app2sd i hear that app2sd+ is better though? (it moves more data to SD yeah? appcache?)
i only have 2Gb microsd right now so i might wait until i my 8GB arrives before i flash a new ROM and start again (again!)
i also noticed these online kitchens. http://cookmyrom.co.cc
which look great! tho they are still a version behind the leedroid i am using tho its a good way to get rid of some default apps.
i certainly like the idea of reparitioning the default disk though not quite ready for that yet especially when app2sd+ sounds much more straight forward.
i am dumbfounded that you cant remove 'shortcuts' from the All Apps! or even rename them!! my god. i would think that was first thing available on such an open source OS.
So i have now created a folder called "Folder" to reduce the clutter.. and now i guess i cant even rename it!?? and if i create another one its called "Folder" too!
lol.. this OS is so advanced yet some basic stuff seems to be overlooked.
I did try launcher pro though it removed my HTC Sense (which i like). So i might need to keep looking for an app to help organise my All Apps and my desktop (is desktop what its called?)
And just how do i add ringtones?
love your work guys thanks again.
Create a folder called Ringtones on the root of your SD to have...ringtones.
When you open a folder, long press on the header to rename it.
As for organizing, I stopped caring & started to use search, but maybe if you want you can try an app called folder organizer.
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Create a folder called Ringtones on the root of your SD to have...ringtones.
When you open a folder, long press on the header to rename it.
As for organizing, I stopped caring & started to use search, but maybe if you want you can try an app called folder organizer.
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nice one thank you!
Sage said:
...So i have now created a folder called "Folder" to reduce the clutter.. and now i guess i cant even rename it!??...
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Open the folder then hold where it says folder to change its name.
Ok. Now have app2sd working!
thanks to all of you. Beginning to love this android phone now. I feel sorry for all the people who use them as they come from the factory! Thank god for all the xda people who rip them to shreds and make them better
If i can have one last question. Any way to remap hardware buttons to start an app?
Like when you hold down the search button it launches Google Voice. I want it to launch a different app..
I did a search and found the hardware button remapper though it only does hardware to hardware.. not hardware to app
For Folders(Assuming you're using full HTC Sense), just open it and hold the title bar. Took me some time to figure out. You cannot easily rename the apps in "All apps", but you can remove them(Which is essentially uninstalling them) from Settings > Applications > Manage, unless they are system apps which need to be manually deleted either via S-OFF + Root explorer(OR something similar) or ADB + Custom recovery(Clockworkmod or Amon Ra).
For setting a custom ringtone, open the music app, select the music > Menu > Set as ringtone.
so no love on the hardware remap for apps?
Oh well i have done a lot of googling and it seems it cant be done (well at least not easily).
My last question is when you launch an app from a folder the folder stays open.. any way to force close or change its behaviour?
for those following this. I found the Tasker app remaps hardware buttons amongst doing amazing other things.
Still no love on closing folders though.
i ended up using tasker to create app widgets to replace the folders...
If you want app widgets, there's also "Desktop Visualizer".
In terms of killing of an app, have you tried "Settings -> apps settings -> development" then there's an option there for "stop apps via long press"?
I've never tried to do anything beyond readily available 3rd party apps. I've never jailbroken anything or rooted. I don't know how to work with ROM's and I've never used command prompts beyond installing difficult software on my desktop. (I'm using Win 7 on my PC) and I have no linux or coding experience. That said, I'm smart, I research things fully b4 I actually DO anything & I follow directions exactly when i do something unfamiliar.
I bought my Desire about 45 days ago thru USCC. Stock it's running 2.1. On Fri using UnREVoked 3.21 I tried to root. It appeared to work. I have the Superuser file at least...
However, when I followed unlockr.com's tutorials for downloading & flashing ROM's it became obvious that something was not right (screens weren't the same, options weren't the same or even close in some cases, & controls, like pushing power to go back after recovery didn't work.) The screen turned black, I had a minor heart attack & then the phone finally rebooted into it's original USCC configuration.
Now, I DID have an option to "install from SD card" but nothing that said "flash from sd card" and I'm assuming -maybe incorrectly- that there's a difference??
After 4 days of searching sites, I know there are too many posts on USCC rooting & Desire for a noob like me to know what to do. I have a mess that I need help to untangle.
Prior to my failed ROM attempt, I had installed save to sd... which I think may have moved everything to my SD card. Since rooting, I tried using Root Explorer to remove facebook, twitter, City ID etc.... EX: I can see bloatware files on my SD card, and the program SAYS it deletes them, but it reboots on exit and there's CityID again!
I can mount the SD card as a disk drive on my PC and look thru the SD card files. (some of which appear 2B duplicates. When I rooted, I installed the Hboot drivers and followed the unrevoked directions exactly. I renamed the recovery file as update and left it as a zip... but there are now two "update.zip" folders on my SD card. They are different sizes and neither contains all of the files of the other; although some of the files in each of the zip's are duplicates.
I don't know what files SHOULD be on my SD card and what is extraneous material. I don't know what I need to install to get to where I'm ultimately trying to go... which is running 2.2, getting rid of these "extra" files and gaining the ability to wifi tether my phone.
I do NOT know if I have S-off or not... and I'm not sure how to tell. AND, I'm not sure if this is the base cause of the other issues or not.
Is there anyone willing to get me thru the vast amount of material & help me to get my Desire running the way it is capable of functioning?
At this point, I'm even willing to switch carriers to get what I want if the issue is USCC's proprietary nature...
Thanks in advance to any1 willing to help out
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I've never tried to do anything beyond readily available 3rd party apps. I've never jailbroken anything or rooted. I don't know how to work with ROM's and I've never used command prompts beyond installing difficult software on my desktop. (I'm using Win 7 on my PC) and I have no linux or coding experience. That said, I'm smart, I research things fully b4 I actually DO anything & I follow directions exactly when i do something unfamiliar.
I bought my Desire about 45 days ago thru USCC. Stock it's running 2.1. On Fri using UnREVoked 3.21 I tried to root. It appeared to work. I have the Superuser file at least...
However, when I followed unlockr.com's tutorials for downloading & flashing ROM's it became obvious that something was not right (screens weren't the same, options weren't the same or even close in some cases, & controls, like pushing power to go back after recovery didn't work.) The screen turned black, I had a minor heart attack & then the phone finally rebooted into it's original USCC configuration.
Now, I DID have an option to "install from SD card" but nothing that said "flash from sd card" and I'm assuming -maybe incorrectly- that there's a difference??
After 4 days of searching sites, I know there are too many posts on USCC rooting & Desire for a noob like me to know what to do. I have a mess that I need help to untangle.
Prior to my failed ROM attempt, I had installed save to sd... which I think may have moved everything to my SD card. Since rooting, I tried using Root Explorer to remove facebook, twitter, City ID etc.... EX: I can see bloatware files on my SD card, and the program SAYS it deletes them, but it reboots on exit and there's CityID again!
I can mount the SD card as a disk drive on my PC and look thru the SD card files. (some of which appear 2B duplicates. When I rooted, I installed the Hboot drivers and followed the unrevoked directions exactly. I renamed the recovery file as update and left it as a zip... but there are now two "update.zip" folders on my SD card. They are different sizes and neither contains all of the files of the other; although some of the files in each of the zip's are duplicates.
I don't know what files SHOULD be on my SD card and what is extraneous material. I don't know what I need to install to get to where I'm ultimately trying to go... which is running 2.2, getting rid of these "extra" files and gaining the ability to wifi tether my phone.
I do NOT know if I have S-off or not... and I'm not sure how to tell. AND, I'm not sure if this is the base cause of the other issues or not.
Is there anyone willing to get me thru the vast amount of material & help me to get my Desire running the way it is capable of functioning?
At this point, I'm even willing to switch carriers to get what I want if the issue is USCC's proprietary nature...
Thanks in advance to any1 willing to help out
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i cant tell you how to fix it, but what i can say, is if you really borked it, you can take it into a uscc store saying you have no idea what happened. i used to work for uscc until about 2 months ago. until that time, out of the 3 corporate stores i was working in, not one associates knew what rooting was. and none of the "smartphone team" had either. so they would most likely just send you a replacement. good luck
I thought about that... And I really don't even mind paying for it if I need to replae the phone, I will... But I figure at this point, worst case scenario I have aphone I can "play" with and figure out IF I can do any of this stuff successfully. I've discovered in the last year that I sort of have a talent for figuring this stuff out. This is the first time I've ever needed to find help with a problem and I've built several complete systems. I'm hoping there's someone who might be willing to suggest a course of action. If you have any ideas- even if I brick the darned thing- I'm willing to give it a try!
Thanks to anyone brave enough to reply!
Bethyk
Sounds like the second tuturial you were following was trying to root your phone again, but with the older method.
Turn on your phone holding volume down. You will get a white screen with some options in the middle, select recovery (it says at the top of this screen s-off or s-on, yours should say s-on, this is how to find this out.)
When recovery loads it should say clockwork recovery, a custom recovery flashed by unrevoked during the rooting process.
Use this recovery to flash a zip of whatever rom you want. Be sure to wipe data also if changing roms or any problems arise.
I've figured this much out at this point... I did root my phont with unREVoked 3.21. However, I did NOT S-OFF the device. So I'll try what mercianary suggests & let you know how it goes! Thanks a ton!
Bethy
Are you using the mouse button at bottom of phone to select in black and green recovery screen? If you are using power button to select it will give you a blank screen.
Okay so I tried to post in Urban Inception thread but since I only lurk and flash I can't LOL
so here's the deal. I have the latest purple recovery, EF02 and EF02 modem, I flashed urban, and then flashed his add on
I cannot uninstall preloaded apps. This is my first gingerbread so I don't know if there are drastic differences, but I typically use root explorer and move the apps in question to a different folder on my SD card to back up, or just delete. simple as that.
so I did this to some of the add ons/rom apps, and they stay in the app drawer, and market, installed apps. but are not in system/app or data/app....I did even look in data/data thinking maybe it doesn't clean up after itself but even after deleting left overs its still shows
any suggestions?
Is there any way to lift the block on my account so I can post in Dev forum. I'm not a Dev wiz but I've been testing Rom/kernels since my moment on SDX and had switched over here since I got my Epic, Gtab (sweet!) and daughters intercept because there is better community support.I might ooooops with a duh question here and there but I typically have some common sense about posting "How do I turn on my phone????" in the Dev forum
thanks in advance
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Okay so I tried to post in Urban Inception thread but since I only lurk and flash I can't LOL
so here's the deal. I have the latest purple recovery, EF02 and EF02 modem, I flashed urban, and then flashed his add on
I cannot uninstall preloaded apps. This is my first gingerbread so I don't know if there are drastic differences, but I typically use root explorer and move the apps in question to a different folder on my SD card to back up, or just delete. simple as that.
so I did this to some of the add ons/rom apps, and they stay in the app drawer, and market, installed apps. but are not in system/app or data/app....I did even look in data/data thinking maybe it doesn't clean up after itself but even after deleting left overs its still shows
any suggestions?
Is there any way to lift the block on my account so I can post in Dev forum. I'm not a Dev wiz but I've been testing Rom/kernels since my moment on SDX and had switched over here since I got my Epic, Gtab (sweet!) and daughters intercept because there is better community support.I might ooooops with a duh question here and there but I typically have some common sense about posting "How do I turn on my phone????" in the Dev forum
thanks in advance
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the apps should be in /system/app/ or /data/app/ and you should be able to remove them with root explorer just remember to remount writable before you go to move/erase one of them.
and to post in the development section i believe you need atleast 10 posts
thanks I did do that actually, it's usually the first thing I do, like I wrote above. I either move them (take them out of system/app or data/app) to make a back up at the same time (before there were so many flashable restore zips lol....or just straight up delete them
I did do that and they still show in app drawer, installed apps and market, they show with that generic icon, they do not show in system app....they are executable and don't update from market with you try but show up none the less....I was assuming it was rom specific, which is why i wanted to post there.
I don't know if it was something written into the add on pack offer by the rom developer (compkid?)
but thank you for responding, oh and yes i was mounted R/W it wouldn't have deleted from system otherwise...werid there's a trace left???? grrrrrrr just driving me nuts
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thanks I did do that actually, it's usually the first thing I do, like I wrote above. I either move them (take them out of system/app or data/app) to make a back up at the same time (before there were so many flashable restore zips lol....or just straight up delete them
I did do that and they still show in app drawer, installed apps and market, they show with that generic icon, they do not show in system app....they are executable and don't update from market with you try but show up none the less....I was assuming it was rom specific, which is why i wanted to post there.
I don't know if it was something written into the add on pack offer by the rom developer (compkid?)
but thank you for responding, oh and yes i was mounted R/W it wouldn't have deleted from system otherwise...werid there's a trace left???? grrrrrrr just driving me nuts
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I have noticed that I have had to delete the apps from system/apps folder and data/data folders. Try looking that folder as well and see if the apps are showing in there.
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yes I did delete from both. I did notice also that some were located in both
so when i look at settings>applications> manage, they are still listed, as com.....etc
and grayed out, and sd symbol...when i click on them, all options (uninstall, clear data, force stop) are blacked out
I looked on my sd card and they are not in .secure, android/data etc
I ran the terminal and ls'ed /mnt/asec and they are not there either
so here's only thing i can think of: when I ls -l system/app all the system apps have rw-r--r--
i can write to it, ie copy and paste via rootexplore but is it not letting me execute install???
so should i chmod...only thing is I can't chmod system/app recursively??? keeps saying bad mode like it's not recognizing "-R"
maybe I'm off and the permission have nothing to do with it
thanks for the suggestions so far, if anyone else has an idea or knows about the permissions and whether that's what's going on let me know
or where those are hiding, it says sd in the app list but i couldn't find it anywhere and I didn't notice any sdext partition
so got it????
I went back to stock, fresh clean odin, odined purple CWM, flashed Kernelplus EF02, 3x wipe, flashed urban again, this time I DID NOT do the add on and it's been fine, doing nothing diff than usual and when i delete an app from system or data, it's gone from app list, market,
so I don't know what's going on with that compkid addon zip but the only thing i did different this time was not flash that and everything is behaving normally
If you make changes to the system, clearing the dalvic cache and fixing permissions should help clear the remnants of removed apps.
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I want to make sure I have this right. You deleted the apks from both folders, did a reboot and the apps were still there? Or did you just delete from the two folders and not reboot before checking if they were still there?
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Sometimes if u reboot the go away also.
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oh trust me i rebooted...they were not in the folders (system, or data), but still in the app list (settings, applications, manage apps) and market and appbrain still tried to update
in manage applications it showed them as greyed out, and when i clicked on that all options (clear data, uninstall, froce stop etc) were blacked out and unclickable
this time around i did all things the same (ef02 from odin, flash CWM purple, su.zip, 3x data wipe UI ROM) except installing that add on package of extra apps and I no problem deleting anything from system after installing urban inception Rom...added a theme and still no problem modifying
weird huh, I haven't opened the zip, and to be honest I can follow it but I'm not a dev so i wouldn't necessarily recognize anything
Ok, compkid is big on his icons and themes. Check these three spots with Root Explorer or something like it: system/app, data/app, and data/data folders. The third was the last spot I found some things left to delete. I think that should take care of any leftover files that are keeping them from disappearing but in the OP Compkid does suggest using 7zip to delete unwanted apps before flashing the folder. Hope that may help
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any idea why those grayed out icons would have a tiny sd (sd card im assuming) in corner...they were the ones that came with the addon, not user installed. I did peek in data/data but theres a good chance i missed something. I also for kicks checked everywhere in my sdcard like i mentioned earlier...just never seen an app left like that with an sd on the blank icon
issues resolved as far as my phone but i have this need to know issue haha
i should have gone through first, i did notice that but i was being lazy i guess
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any idea why those grayed out icons would have a tiny sd (sd card im assuming) in corner...they were the ones that came with the addon, not user installed. I did peek in data/data but theres a good chance i missed something. I also for kicks checked everywhere in my sdcard like i mentioned earlier...just never seen an app left like that with an sd on the blank icon
issues resolved as far as my phone but i have this need to know issue haha
i should have gone through first, i did notice that but i was being lazy i guess
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You have got me there. I haven't run across that before. Did you possibly move apps to SD or is that an indicator of such since they are saved to SD? Not sure on that one..just some possibilities. Maybe someone else has some ideas???
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well i didn't move those over for sure, it was es file explorer, twitter (maybe), facebook (maybe), samsung app store (another maybe) i was looking at so many things in half a day, having not been on xda in awhile, catching up on all the gingerbread leak stuff and new CWM and trying to make sure i read through everything before playing that i can't remember all of the apps exactly (one smack for not writing it down), but i remember specifically one was es file explorer
i've never seen that either, with the green/white square icon, and all the menus blacked out when i click it....never seen that ...haha I'd love it if someone knew so i wouldn't have to sit here pretending I'm not still annoyed in the back of my mind, wonder if i could ever find happy gilmore's "happy place" instead of little green and white icons
So if you long press on those Android boxes that used to be apps and hold them over the trash can you can't uninstall them? I use Zeam Launcher and that's an option on there. What launcher are you using? It sounds like you are close to where you want to be now...
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i can delete them off the desktop fine, but they are still in the system someplace...the app manager still shows them there...those icons show in drawer, in app list and in market update however the update was unsuccessful...the app manager shows them in the list when i click on them, you can't do anything, every option (uninstall, clear data, move, force stop) is blacked out and not clickable
sure i can delete the icon but it's still tucked away somehow,
also like i said earlier, something else was buggy where i couldn't drop apps, in the system/app folder to install (YES I clicked R/W)....i couldn't re install via rootexplorer even the ones that came with add on....i've used many roms since i got my moment and 2.1 came out and then began my flashing addiction and i've always been able to click and install, it might prompt me that it's already install do i want to proceed, but would install over the other and complete successfully....every time it said install unsuccessful.
Hey all,
Live Wallpapers have been pulled from XDAndroid builds for a while. They do slow the device down, but they are eye candy... and I know everyone loves a little eye candy now and then.
So follow these steps if you want to give Live Wallpapers a whirl. I've included two (Starfield and the Matrix) but there are many, many more you can download once they are enabled... No guarantees any of them work, and again - This will slow down your phone, you've been warned!
Onto the directions:
Two methods - on the phone directly, or thru adb. Either way, you need to grab the .zip file (attached) and extract the files to your SD card. In reality you only need LiveWallpapersPicker.apk to enable the feature, but if you don't have any Live Wallpapers in mind, grab the other two APK's and put them on your SD as well.
First method - adb
Press enter after each entry...
Code:
adb shell
Code:
su
Code:
mount -o,remount rw /system
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mv /sdcard/LiveWallpapersPicker.apk /system/app
Repeat the last step for livewallpaper.starfield.apk and livewallpaper.matrix.apk if you wish. Obviously the commands are assuming the APK's are at the root of your SD card - change the path if you placed the APK's in a different location.
Finally,
Code:
mount -o,remount ro /system
Second method - on the phone.
You need Terminal Emulator or ConnectBot. Connect to a local (root) shell.
I was going to make a separate section for this, but in reality it's the same steps as above - minus the adb shell part. Again, if you place the APK's at the root of the SD card - no folders - the above directions verbatim will work on the phone itself. Enjoy!
Feel free to use this thread to share your experiences and favorite Live Wallpapers - especially if you find one that works better than others, etc.
PS - In case you're unsure, once you've done this (no need to reboot) you should be able to long press on the desktop and go to "Wallpapers". You should now have a new option, "Live wallpapers".
Figured I would add my experience to kick things off.
mgross029 inspired me to try Live Wallpapers again, because of Go Weather. Pretty cool weather app, with a nifty Live Wallpaper for sure!
arrrghhh said:
Figured I would add my experience to kick things off.
mgross029 inspired me to try Live Wallpapers again, because of Go Weather. Pretty cool weather app, with a nifty Live Wallpaper for sure!
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Combine this with tweaks from arrrghhh's speed improvement thread and WOW! My TP2 is running better than it ever did in WM!
Your results may very!
Iv tried making this work, (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256011) but i cant seem to get it to work at all.
Im using a RHOD300 (tilt 2)
i downloaded the
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extracted them to my desktop, then placed them into the root of my SD card, then I ran haret and booted into android, then without going into terminal emulator i decided to see if i had a livewallpapers option just for kicks, and there was! but it kept force closing. then i loaded up terminal emulator and followed the steps (noted that im doing the "on phone" method) and sure enough there was indeed a new "live wallpapers" selector. however, whenever i try to use a live wallpaper, it force closes. (i even tried using livewallpapers i downloaded from the market, but that didnt work either) after rebooting to see if that was the problem, the same instance occured.
Thinking of a workaround, i saw that they were .apk files, so i this time placed them into the android app folder (where all the other .apk files are) and hoped that would work. and it didnt. So im at a loss as to what im doing wrong.
Also, by on phone method i assume that meaning downloading from your pc to your phone. not going to this page and downloading it to your phone
Any help would be much appreciated!
Edit: i dont think this would make much of a difference, but im using GO launcher ex from the market.
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Iv tried making this work, (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256011) but i cant seem to get it to work at all.
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Well if you can select Live Wallpapers, you've done the steps correctly. If it's just FC'ing, I guess try a new data.img. Rename the old one to data.bak so you can easily revert to it.
This is experimental, and really a complete waste of time and resources - on the phone as well as your own . But I figured I would put it out there because so many were asking how...
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Well if you can select Live Wallpapers, you've done the steps correctly. If it's just FC'ing, I guess try a new data.img. Rename the old one to data.bak so you can easily revert to it.
This is experimental, and really a complete waste of time and resources - on the phone as well as your own . But I figured I would put it out there because so many were asking how...
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I was actually just trying that, and i'll be damned, it works! now all i have to do is try it with my other data.img
Edit" cant help but notice the added mv /sdcard/LiveWallpapersPicker.apk /system/app
i think that was my problem trying it with my other data.img now
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Edit" cant help but notice the added mv /sdcard/LiveWallpapersPicker.apk /system/app
i think that was my problem trying it with my other data.img now
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Heh, yea... I realized that wasn't in there and probably could trip people up. I didn't think that was your issue, since you could actually pick LiveWallpapers.
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Heh, yea... I realized that wasn't in there and probably could trip people up. I didn't think that was your issue, since you could actually pick LiveWallpapers.
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I think the only reason why i could was because i put it in android apps with the other .apk files one time and then deleted it. After i did that the phone seemed to remember it was there after i deleted it and continued to have a livewallpaper option even after i deleted it. so thats why it wont work on the other data.img.