Class 4 or 10? - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
I was originally going to get a class 10 64GB micro sd card for my note 2, as I filled it within 10 minutes of using it, and I have less than half of my music on it.
But I've decided that's too expensive. Would a class 4 be alright for just music and videos up to 720p?
If so, why does anyone bother with class 10?
Thanks.
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Hi,
In smartphones any sdcard class more tha 6 is make not difference.
You can see some data results here
For me a sandisk class 6 is the better solution.

What about cards that are UHS-1 and those that are not?

jon1011 said:
What about cards that are UHS-1 and those that are not?
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The UHS means it has content transfer speed of minimum 30mbps to maximum of 104mbpswhen you transfer the content from MicroSD to System(PC)....but the data write speed on the MicroSD depends on the CLASS mentioned on it i.e.....

The only cards being sold around me are Class 4 and 10. Is 4 enough for music and videos or not? You didn't really answer my question..

I had this question in my mind when I wanted to buy a new card, as per my research class 4 is enough for our smartphone, class 10 is actually well suited for dslrs. I am happy with class 4
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hxc_pokecore said:
The only cards being sold around me are Class 4 and 10. Is 4 enough for music and videos or not? You didn't really answer my question..
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Of course i answered your question!
I told you that class 10 is pretty uselles in smarphones so you dont have to look there.
And i told you also that a class 6 is the best solution.
If class4 is good enought?Yes, but the manufacture is more important.
So, a good class 4 (better class 6) is good enought for any smartphone.

Like Elia said, there is ABSOLUTELY no point in putting a class 10 card in a phone. Frankly speaking, even class 6 is kinda faster than needed. If you're going to use it for music and videos, even up to 1080p, a class 4 is more than enough in terms of speed. Unless you need to copy things there from your PC really fast.
Better to spend your money on more space - or better brand, than speed class you won't really use.

eliashadow said:
The UHS means it has content transfer speed of minimum 30mbps to maximum of 104mbpswhen you transfer the content from MicroSD to System(PC)....but the data write speed on the MicroSD depends on the CLASS mentioned on it i.e.....
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So would it be preferable to have a micro SD card with UHS-1?
hxc_pokecore said:
The only cards being sold around me are Class 4 and 10. Is 4 enough for music and videos or not? You didn't really answer my question..
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Same in our location, the only micro SD cards available are either Class 4 or Class 10.

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hxc_pokecore said:
Hey guys,
I was originally going to get a class 10 64GB micro sd card for my note 2, as I filled it within 10 minutes of using it, and I have less than half of my music on it.
But I've decided that's too expensive. Would a class 4 be alright for just music and videos up to 720p?
If so, why does anyone bother with class 10?
Thanks.
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I used class 4 for a while without issue.
Upgraded to a class 10 because price wise i figured why not. I spent $32 for a 32gb class 10. Not too bad when a class 4 32gb cost almost the same lol
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it really depends on what youre using it for. if its playback of files and videos, class 4 is fine.
however, if you want to record videos at 1080p (bitrate of 18mbps ~ 2.25mb/s) and still snap 6mp snaps (~2-3mb each), then you would want a hgiher speed. with a class 4 card, it would limit you to ~1 photo per second while filming, with a class 10 card, you can bump that up to ~4 photos per second while filming.
it also comes into play with burst shot, the faster the speed of the card, the more photos you can save directly to the card instead of onto your internal memory.
class 10 is also useful for those who use apps to sd.

Is kingston ok? I have that in shop nearby, 16gb, class 4

Garavi said:
Is kingston ok? I have that in shop nearby, 16gb, class 4
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Yes, perfect.
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Micro sd card 32go for xperia play

I want to buy a 32go card for my play, but I don't know what kind of card works with it. What class do I must buy: 2, 4, 6 or 10? What the differences between classes and what have you on your play?
Thanks!
mastertiti2000 said:
I want to buy a 32go card for my play, but I don't know what kind of card works with it. What class do I must buy: 2, 4, 6 or 10? What the differences between classes and what have you on your play?
Thanks!
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I've always heard to get a class 10, and that's what I plan to get very soon.
Flinq said:
I've always heard to get a class 10, and that's what I plan to get very soon.
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There's pros and cons to getting Class 10 cards.
From what I read, Class 10 offers the best read/write speeds so this is a positive point.
The problem is, the random access performance of higher class cards is not as good as the lower class cards.
Some users have stated that Class 10 cards in their Android devices have created lag, which is attributable to the lower random access performance.
Personally, I'm using a Class 4 32GB Transcend card and so far I've not experienced any problems. I did use a Class 10 16GB Kingston and it my Play did suffer some lag.
I think the main advantage of higher class cards is performing file transfers between sources, as the higher write/read speeds would indicate.
yes that is true some people say that there class 10 cards give them lag in games.
i have a class 10 memento card in mine but i havnt had any lag issues
but i do notice that transfering large amounts of data
and loading games times are faster on a class 10
Excuse my newness but where do you find the info about which class your card has...I'll be in the market for one but I was never aware if this class information.
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Thanks for your answers. I will buy a kingston micro sd card 32 go class 4. They are at 60 Euros on Amazon. I will tell you if it's ok or not with my play.
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J4r3dP said:
Excuse my newness but where do you find the info about which class your card has...I'll be in the market for one but I was never aware if this class information.
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if a sd card dosent state the class on it, it will most prob be a class 2. i have a class 4 32gb kingston card, but ive used class 2 on all my other devices with no issues
J4r3dP said:
Excuse my newness but where do you find the info about which class your card has...I'll be in the market for one but I was never aware if this class information.
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If you look on the microSDHC card, it will have a circle with a number in it. That is its class.
If there is no number, it is Class 2.
I bought a class 10 Lexar 32gb microsdhc and i was shocked when i put it in my play. It was lagging in all the gameloft games most noticeably in Sacred Odyssey. I returned that and bought a 23gb Kingston class 4 and i have no problems with that .
I think its because the card had problems reading lots of small files, i noticed that when i was copying my data over the speed was coming down to 1mb!
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Thanks so much! You just saved me a lot of money
I am personally using a Samsung 32Gb class 2 card. It works very well, no noticeable lag in any of my games, be they Gameloft or Fpse. I have a Sandisk 32GB class 4 card I plan to move to, just to lazy to copy everything over right now.
Im using a class 4 sandisk i got from amazon uk for £49.99 no problems here. One thing i can warn you about though is dont go for a class 2 card because if the xperia play ever gets 720p video recording a class 2 card is not going to cope and you will have a loss in recorded frames.
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
I am personally using a Samsung 32Gb class 2 card. It works very well, no noticeable lag in any of my games, be they Gameloft or Fpse. I have a Sandisk 32GB class 4 card I plan to move to, just to lazy to copy everything over right now.
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Gimme one!!!
jkr284 said:
Im using a class 4 sandisk i got from amazon uk for £49.99 no problems here. One thing i can warn you about though is dont go for a class 2 card because if the xperia play ever gets 720p video recording a class 2 card is not going to cope and you will have a loss in recorded frames.
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Highly doubt it will ever happen get 720p recording... It's ****ty camera, that doesn't even have zoom
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I just bought a 32gb kingston class 4 for $17 off ebay
Deoxlar said:
Highly doubt it will ever happen get 720p recording... It's ****ty camera, that doesn't even have zoom
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It's not that bad, and digital zoom (which is the only zoom phone cameras get..'cept for that one japanese one..) is just as effective as zooming into your picture after you've taken it. It's a useless, garbage feature, and everyone who misses it should be ashamed.
Deoxlar said:
Highly doubt it will ever happen get 720p recording... It's ****ty camera, that doesn't even have zoom
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well digital zoom is pretty ****ty anyway, it is pretty much zooming into the full size image live and then cropping it and enlarging it. You get better results taking a full frame image and then zooming and cropping on your pc.
I also have read in other places that the play is capable to 720p.
Sony usually likes to keep thing hidden so when they release an update you stop raging for a while because there are pretty new things that the device has always been capable of.
I use my 32gb I got from my Thunderbolt. Which is a class 4 and I have to say it works like a charm and way better than its 8gb class 2.
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speedyink said:
I just bought a 32gb kingston class 4 for $17 off ebay
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Isn't Ebay full of fakes?
subcu1ture said:
Isn't Ebay full of fakes?
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We'll see, although so far I've never been screwed from eBay. Honestly though it's a memory card, who cares who made it.
Yeah but there are heaps pod complaints about cards from ebay that pose as 32 gigs but are actually 4gigs. Keep us updated because I would be keen if it is legit.
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One Day Sale microSD 32GB SanDisk Class 4

Great deal on www.1saleaday.com ....$29.99 + $5 for shipping ~= $35
its only a class 4 so not the best but for anyone who needs a lot of storage on their phone/tablet, its a great deal! Get it while you can ....its only good for 1 day.
Yeah I'm getting one of these.
Anyone know what is the fastest and largest SD that will work with our phones?
32 gb is the biggest right now, class 10 would be the fastest.
Shoot I just got my 20 dollar 16gb card today top
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clamknuckle said:
32 gb is the biggest right now, class 10 would be the fastest.
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Thanks! So are you suggesting a hack might potentially enable larger down the road?
clamknuckle said:
32 gb is the biggest right now, class 10 would be the fastest.
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Actually that's incorrect I found out the other day. Sandisk has released a 64gb microsdxc card that has apparently been found to be compatible with the sgs2.
Copy pasta:
Class 4 or Class 10? Depend upon what you want it for
Class 2 and 4 cards have better random access speed and random read/write than class 6 or 10 cards in general. To get higher sequential write speeds, manufacturers sacrifice the random access speeds. That's just how it is.
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Source XDA-Developers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15269669#post15269669
So if you want to use the microSDHC card for photos, music, or video, then you may be better off with a class 10 card. If you want it for Readyboost, smart phone, Nook Color running Android OS, or other device that requires fast, ramdom access, then you should buy a Class 2 or 4 Sandisk flash card.
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I picked up 3 sanDisk 32gb class 4 cards on amazon the other night for $16.40 a piece. I thought I would never see them and would end up getting a refund, but they showed up two days later. They were sold out from that seller (he had 20) within minutes. Right time at the right place i guess.

Need a recommendation on SD card

Hey everyone, I've never purchased one of these for a phone as they've always came with one. Anyway I'm looking for a solid recommendation for a fast 32GB SD card. I have a Tiger Direct local to me so I'll probably try to go their today once I have something to reference.
Thanks
A-data are safe
so are Transcend
Legit SanDisk are good, but they are always twice the price of either of the above
AllGamer said:
A-data are safe
so are Transcend
Legit SanDisk are good, but they are always twice the price of either of the above
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What about Class type? I see people say 4 is fine but then I see others that say either 6 or 10 for access speeds relating to pics and videos.
I will recomnend you buying a class 6 or higher; possibly a class 10. Samsung has it in both so u can purchase it
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Princew14 said:
I will recomnend you buying a class 6 or higher; possibly a class 10. Samsung has it in both so u can purchase it
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same here
don't buy anything less than class 6, too slow for a good fast phone experience, specially if you plan to run apps from the SD card
Don't do this. Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15269669#post15269669
I use a class 4 32gb sandisk and the speed is fine. Lower class cards are more realiable and the average user cant tell the difference unless you're transferring large files or large quantities of files at once. My class 4 acts like a class 6 but is super reliable.
Id highly recommend a class 4 over a class 10. There's a thread around here if you search that will tell you the benefits of a class 4 and lower class against higher class cards.
Deebo took your bike too?
Just purchased 32GB san disk micro SD from amazon for $37 and it works great. Replaced my old 16GB where there was not enought space to keep my fav music library.
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AllGamer said:
same here
don't buy anything less than class 6, too slow for a good fast phone experience, specially if you plan to run apps from the SD card
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isn't the only thing the class does is gauge the speed of transferring files to and from the sd card, not the actual performance?
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isn't the only thing the class does is gauge the speed of transferring files to and from the sd card, not the actual performance?
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Higher class, like another poster said, will give you higher speeds for large file transfers. However, this comes (from testing) at a sacrifice in everyday use of read speeds on everyday smaller files (think gallery, music player, etc). That's basically a short summary of what other XDA members have found from testing. Personally, I picked up a 32GB card from SanDisk off of Amazon and am completely satisfied. You may have a slightly slower time adding all of your files initially, but you most likely won't notice the difference when accessing all those files later on the phone. Look up the card on Amazon and the corresponding reviews and decide for yourself. Hope this helps.
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personally, i find those Class 10 to perform better for me.
the time it takes to write/read small files is negligent compared to the amount of time it takes to write/read large files like MP3, MKV, etc
those word documents/excel spreadsheets, pdf, notepad texts, loads up instantly on my Adata 32GB Class 10. and i got 3 of them
1 for music
1 for videos
1 for apps/games/docs/work
so again, that is yet another one of those where the benchmark says one thing, but real life usage shows otherwise
I use a PNY 16GB Class 10.

Is class 10 SD card necessary?

From what I understand I would need the class 10 card if I want to record HD video. If I am not going to record video can I get away with class 4?
Thanks for any help!
You do not need a class 10 to record HD Video, a class 4 does the job perfectly well. I had a 32GB class 4 sandisk and it was fine.
I've heard that for smartphones, Class 10 is even worse than lower classes.
That's because class 10 has fast block reading speeding. The problem is that it comes at a price of slow random access reading. If you want to play high bitrate movies from the SD card, higher class will be better for sure. However for day-to-day usage, lower class might make the phone feel faster.
tarsierspectra said:
From what I understand I would need the class 10 card if I want to record HD video. If I am not going to record video can I get away with class 4?
Thanks for any help!
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class 4 is good enough for video recording.
iirc, 1080p video on the note is recorded at a bitrate of around 17mbps or so. convert that from bits to bytes and its something like 2.125mb/s minimum required to record videos at 1080p. so anything higher than a class 2 should be fine for playback and recording (unless you encode at a silly bitrate).
the only time i could see anyone really needing the faster class speed would be if you wanted to take 8mp shots in rapid succession. depending on the colour tone of the image you intend to take, the file size can go up to 3mb. at that point, your photos per second will be limited by the speed of your memory card. ie. class 4 = 1 photo per second, class 6 = 2 photos per second, class 10 = 3 photos per second maximum.
Be careful in stores. Went to best buy last night for SD card. Class 4 cards only in phone section but at class 10 price from camera section. Also shelf had classes mixed up only sorted by gb. So pay attention to what your getting
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Whelp, I know that my bullcrap cheapo Lexar "class 10" wont allow me to record to it directly.
Man.. I'm pissed. time to look for a new one.
Hope a Samsung 32GB c10 I am thinking of buying will be ok on a SAMSUNG device...
microSD Class 10
What about if you will move (apps2SD) games like Sentinel (TD game) in the microSD, is it necessary to go for c10?
I'm confused on what to buy, c4 or c10.
Need your help!
For me it is. copying movies from PC to my SD card is just painful on class4.
I see that some good class10 cards can write at 20mb/s (sequential), which is 5 times as fast as my current class4 sandisk (4.1mb/s).
The only thing that is holding me back is the price. Once the price comes down a bit ill definitely grab a c10 kingston 32gb.
What about for games you move to your external sd card? Will performance decrease with a c4? Much better with c10?
What can you say about the Ridata 32gb class 10? Is it any good compared to transcend or kingston or sandisk?
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allansy said:
What about for games you move to your external sd card? Will performance decrease with a c4? Much better with c10?
What can you say about the Ridata 32gb class 10? Is it any good compared to transcend or kingston or sandisk?
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Dont know about games, I doubt c10 will make a difference at all....but dont mark my words
As for brand you should look at the particular model rather than judging by just the brand. For instance the sandisk mobile ultra (class 4) beats many of the other class10 cards
check this link
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011.html
Amazon
I managed to get a class 10 32 gig for about £25. Currently they are very cheap so it might be worth getting it either way.
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I managed to get a class 10 32 gig for about £25. Currently they are very cheap so it might be worth getting it either way.
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When I switched from a class4 32GB sandisk to a class10 32GB Lexar, I noticed the smartphone working faster and snappier, probably APP2SD in gingerbread and pictures and videos in the gallery has something to do with that change in response.
In my experience with memory cards and professional equipment, not only we shall choose for class ratings, but also for trusted brands, like sandisk, lexar and transcend.
To sum up, class10 is better than class4, and if the diference in price is not very high, totally worth it, but, there is a lot more difference in daily use between a galaxy note and a HTC Desire.
Class 10 is for marketing, it's totally not needed for smartphone with internal memcard.
You might want to read this thread on why class 4 is better suited for smartphone use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14456360&postcount=42
Currently using a Class 4 Sandisk 32gb card. Am very satisfied with the performance.
AdoreMe said:
Currently using a Class 4 Sandisk 32gb card. Am very satisfied with the performance.
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Same here
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Can someone answer the following question which 32gb SD card is best for Samsung Galaxy Note in terms of performance?
Assuming there is one simple answer
Would appreciated a direct link to say Amazon product page.
Appreciated any help as it saves me annoying people by opening a new thread
Sandisk 16/32GB Mobile Ultra
Guys!
What can you say about Sandisk's Mobile Ultra microSD cards? I'm planning to buy this sdcard instead of class10 microsd cards.
Thanks!
allansy said:
Guys!
What can you say about Sandisk's Mobile Ultra microSD cards? I'm planning to buy this sdcard instead of class10 microsd cards.
Thanks!
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probably the best , but superexpensive

best class of SdCard to get

Hey everyone,
I'm thinking of getting a 32 microsd. Card for my S3. I was wondering if a class 10 is necessary or would a class 4 or 6 be sufficient?
Thanks.
Class 6 is sufficent I read somewhere that class 10 is good for taking pictures or something but for this phone class 6 is enough.
It depends on what you'll be doing. Personally, I'd go for a UHS-1 class card. They're just above class 10. Sandisk has a 32GB one for about $40 on Newegg.com. That's what I'm using right now. It has been awesome thus far.
uhs are useless for this phone, no phone on the market supports this feature.
just get the best you can afford, anything above class 4 is enough, but prices aren't much different, so a class 6 or 10 can be in reach.
kms108 said:
uhs are useless for this phone, no phone on the market supports this feature.
just get the best you can afford, anything above class 4 is enough, but prices aren't much different, so a class 6 or 10 can be in reach.
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That might be the case on the international version, but when I'm taking pictures my UHS card it certainly seems to record them faster on my US - AT&T version. I wonder if anyone has done any any read/ write benchmarks to see for sure.
But I do agree, unless you have a need for speed, anything over class 4 should be good for everyday use.
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That might be the case on the international version, but when I'm taking pictures my UHS card it certainly seems to record them faster on my US - AT&T version. I wonder if anyone has done any any read/ write benchmarks to see for sure.
But I do agree, unless you have a need for speed, anything over class 4 should be good for everyday use.
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i standby what i said, no phone supports uhs, unless you can prove otherwise.
What about if you use it as USB mass storage? Or making backups
of it? Or it's still limited even though that?
i personally have about 10 class 10 16gbs, and around 12 class 10 32gb, and 4 class 6 64gbs. granted i use only 3 or 4 of them i just have a alot extra. i sued to work at best buy mobile and came up on a lot. couple months ago best buy sold a class 6 64gb online for $45. keep an eye out and look for deals. i do see a big difference in the class of cards. i usually have music and various roms and what not.
What about playing roms saved on sd cards would you notice a difference between class 6 and 10
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What about playing roms saved on sd cards would you notice a difference between class 6 and 10
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it's not the card, it's the phone thats preventing the card to reach the limit.
a class 4-10 will work on the s3, you won't notice much of a differences.
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if you want the fastest card on the market, but not for the S3, you only choice is the sandisk microsdhc extreme pro with upto 95mb/s transfer speed and only available so far 8GB and 16Gb.
or you can consider the adata microsdhc premier pro read 45mb/s and write 40mb/s available in 8gb, 16gb and 32gb.
as with both cards you need a uhs reader to reach the stated speed, otherwise you will only get max read 25mb/s and write 23mb/s which is the standard speed set for sdhc.
Class 6 is the sweet spot
Class 4 should be sufficient enough for normal phone use tho?
unless you are using DSLR perhaps?
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Class 4 should be sufficient enough for normal phone use tho?
unless you are using DSLR perhaps?
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Yea class 4 is fine
Class 4 - Good
Class 6 Excellent
Class 10 Overboard
Interesting post: UHS-1 cards may actually perform slower than class 10 in the S3.
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/565033-class-10-vs-uhs-1-cards.html#post4646683
I bought a SanDisk 32gb class 4 for $16.xx shipped on eBay. I only use it for music on on my phone. The ~16gb internal is more than sufficient for pictures and etc.
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jnicks510 said:
I bought a SanDisk 32gb class 4 for $16.xx shipped on eBay. I only use it for music on on my phone. The ~16gb internal is more than sufficient for pictures and etc.
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You should look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783809
Its not exactly a common brand like sandisk though..
class 4 has faster ram, class 10 has faster sequential write speeds
class 4 is better for every day, random use
class 10 is better for downloads and recording/playback of large files and HD movies
i386W7 said:
You should look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783809
Its not exactly a common brand like sandisk though..
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I'm a bit ocd about my phone so my accessories have to be name brand lol XD
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