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Not heard much about games on the Desire. I've installed Gameboid (GBA Emulator) and a GBC emulator and both work perfectly on my phone with sounds. Shame they don't have multi touch!
Native games i'm not so sure about...
what do you mean by multi touch (lack of) ive used both and mega drive one and they play as they should. i find the vertical way works smoother than horizontal. I know what you mean about games although i know gameloft have a few games ie assassins creed and asphalt 5. shame i cant download them yet.
No multi-touch...I.E when i play GBC emu and GameBOID you can't press a direction and say jump at the same time using the on screen buttons.
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No multi-touch...I.E when i play GBC emu and GameBOID you can't press a direction and say jump at the same time using the on screen buttons.
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There's a video on youtube that shows exactly that working with a Desire and Snesoid.
Cheers
But not Gameboid i'm 99% sure that doesn't work and definitely not on GBCoid.
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But not Gameboid i'm 99% sure that doesn't work and definitely not on GBCoid.
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thanks for the clarity as i know it works on gameboid and gbcoid and gensoid. tried em all. just not perfectly. I really think the touch is over sensitive. portrait mode works better for me.
Paperthrow ftw!! LOL
One game I can't put down is World War. If anyone is playing this and would like and ally, please feel free to add me on 3C4WJ4.
SNESoid works perfectly here with multitouch.
Are there any games pre-installed? What games are people finding work well on the Desire? Due to get mine shortly so just looking for the heads up. Cheers.
Abduction works well and the clone of bejewelled called "Jewels" which is free in the market is actually better than the official Bejewelled app.
Hi
I used to use spen in 3d games like major mayhem one the note 1 because it is easier and I can see more screen that with my finger, but looks like it doesn't work anymore on 3d games, I try to use it but the games doesn't response to the touch of the spen.
any idea?
Doesn't work on note2? Or it is a kernel thing or rom? Do this work for you?
Anyone?
Any solution to this?
They changed the pen technology or something. It doesn't work for every game. Eg: it works for fruit ninja (slicing fruits is much easier with the pen), but doesn't work in major mayhem. I don't exactly know why.
[UPDATE 3/26/13]
Using the official Pivot app causes input lag when WiFi is on. MOGA is working with Google for a fix but this will work temporarily. Just disable wifi during gameplay with your MOGA controller
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For those N7 owners with a MOGA controller, this thread should contain discussions for compatibility, profile creation, support, and fixes.
As a new owner, I've found 2 possible solutions for getting this paired on the N7:
Standard Moga Pivot App
MOGA Universal Driver
I am on 4.2.1 Paranoid Android beta9 (currently) and Trinity Kernel. I've been doing lots of testing with Sonic games because I've played Sonic games for over 20 years. I'm finding lots of variables and perhaps this thread can shed some light on the issues.
Scenario 1:
When I launch the Moga Pivot app, setup the controller, and use it to launch games, the games are flagged and typically "know" you are playing with a Moga. This tends to map buttons accordingly and also display additional button mapping screens (Modern Combat 4).
In this scenario, Sonic is very laggy and button presses CAN be 1-2 seconds delayed or not registered at all. This also slows the "d-pad" response causing Sonic to pretty much to be unplayable.
Scenario 2:
When I download the MOGA Universal Driver app, you have to manually pair the MOGA yourself through the bluetooth settings and select the device within the Moga Driver app. I've set it up as a System service that requires root.
In this scenario, Games play perfect speed wise. I had absolutely no problems with Sonic lagging. MC4 also plays great with the exception that the lower-right analog stick didn't work. I'm assuming this requires a profile setup.
The Moga Pivot App pairs nicely with my Galaxy Nexus and Sonic CD LITE with no problems or delays. The Galaxy Nexus is running Xenon 4.2.1. I've tried various kernels on the N7 with similar results.
So how do you prefer to use your MOGA?
Thanks for starting this thread. My MOGA arrives tomorrow.
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What do you have to do to get the pivot app to detect modern combat 4? I've got both installed and the controller paired/synced, but the only modern combat 4 I can find in the pivot app is a link to playstore to buy it.
mwalt2 said:
What do you have to do to get the pivot app to detect modern combat 4? I've got both installed and the controller paired/synced, but the only modern combat 4 I can find in the pivot app is a link to playstore to buy it.
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you should read the card the promotion code comes on for MC4... It gives you a link to gameloft. Type it in on chrome and you will get a place to put in the code. Then it downloads that way.
I've had issues playing MC4 with the MOGA, I just got it today and on playing... it's impossible to aim. For some reason, whenever I turn to look left or something, it continues moving in that direction. You just flick the stick to the right or left and you do a 180 or something... I got slaughtered... K/D 1/4... -_-
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you should read the card the promotion code comes on for MC4... It gives you a link to gameloft. Type it in on chrome and you will get a place to put in the code. Then it downloads that way.
I've had issues playing MC4 with the MOGA, I just got it today and on playing... it's impossible to aim. For some reason, whenever I turn to look left or something, it continues moving in that direction. You just flick the stick to the right or left and you do a 180 or something... I got slaughtered... K/D 1/4... -_-
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Yea I got the game already but it doesn't show in the pivot app which would make it fully functional with the controller, because I tried to play it without going through the pivot app and its pretty unplayable like how u stated it plays
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Thought I'd clarify this real quick...
The way the Pivot app sends input to the game and the way the Universal Driver sends it are completely different...
Pivot sends it to Android with a proprietary library that 'Moga optimized apps' are looking for...
The Universal Driver makes your Android device think that the Moga is a USB Gamepad... Android 3.1+ natively supports USB gamepads and many apps like GTAIII/Vice City, Riptide GP, and Shadowgun support generic gamepads. Using Pivot wouldn't allow you to use your Moga with those games, but using the Driver will Why MC4 has partial support for that mode, I have no idea.
Does the Moga actually clip to a Nexus 7?
If not, I wonder if there is some sort of hack to extend the clip or attach it another way.
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Does the Moga actually clip to a Nexus 7?
If not, I wonder if there is some sort of hack to extend the clip or attach it another way.
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Lol no it doesn't.
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Yea I got the game already but it doesn't show in the pivot app which would make it fully functional with the controller, because I tried to play it without going through the pivot app and its pretty unplayable like how u stated it plays
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I think they will have to update the pivot app to scan for the gameloft-installed version of MC4. It seems like an oversight that they forgot to add support. Maybe player911 will chime in, but I'd guess he bought MC4 from the play store.
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Does the Moga actually clip to a Nexus 7?
If not, I wonder if there is some sort of hack to extend the clip or attach it another way.
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It doesn't seem like there would be an easy way. The weight might also be different when trying to hold the nexus 7 in the clip. I think powera makes a larger version, though I just read that in one of the thread about the free deal and haven't looked for it.
MC4 shows in my Pivot app. Try uninstalling the Pivot app and reinstalling it AFTER MC4 is installed. Or a possible restart. I previously installed Sonic CD and MC4 before the pivot app.
That LAG you were talking about with MC4 is the SAME exact lag I'm seeing in Sonic CD. I use Sonic CD as a reference because it is a platformer and much easier to notice the lag. This is exactly what this thread is about. Trying to figure out how to fix the lag.
Currently I'm using JUST the MOGA Universal Driver app. I actually like it more because it comes with a Widget Toggle to turn the service on/off. It plays fine for Sonic CD and GSNES... but doesn't work 100% with MC4 (right analog stick doesn't work).
I'm thinking it could be the way BT is polling. Perhaps the BT send/receive speed is reduced or something. Please include your Rom version (stock 4.1.2, 4.2.1, or custom).
The MOGA works great on my Galaxy Nexus and looks mighty fine too. It is just my N7 that is having issues.
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MC4 shows in my Pivot app. Try uninstalling the Pivot app and reinstalling it AFTER MC4 is installed. Or a possible restart. I previously installed Sonic CD and MC4 before the pivot app.
That LAG you were talking about with MC4 is the SAME exact lag I'm seeing in Sonic CD. I use Sonic CD as a reference because it is a platformer and much easier to notice the lag. This is exactly what this thread is about. Trying to figure out how to fix the lag.
Currently I'm using JUST the MOGA Universal Driver app. I actually like it more because it comes with a Widget Toggle to turn the service on/off. It plays fine for Sonic CD and GSNES... but doesn't work 100% with MC4 (right analog stick doesn't work).
I'm thinking it could be the way BT is polling. Perhaps the BT send/receive speed is reduced or something. Please include your Rom version (stock 4.1.2, 4.2.1, or custom).
The MOGA works great on my Galaxy Nexus and looks mighty fine too. It is just my N7 that is having issues.
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Bluetooth is very wonky in 4.2.1 and it is most likely why you receive lag.
If MC4 doesnt show up in your list your can start the Pivot app and drop to your home screen then start MC4 and its works fine.
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If MC4 doesnt show up in your list your can start the Pivot app and drop to your home screen then start MC4 and its works fine.
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True but if you launch from the Moga app, the game launches knowing you have a moga. So there is a few additional features you won't have if you launch normally. One such feature is the gamepad control overview page, where it shows a moga controller and all of the assignments.
And as far as 4.2.1 bluetooth being wonky, I knew this going in, which is why I'm confused as to why my Galaxy Nexus plays it fine... unless it still uses the old bluetooth drivers still. If everyone is having a problem with lag, ok, I'm ok with working toward a solution. If it is just me, I'd like to know so I can fix it.
I ask everyone with an N7 and a Moga controller to test out Sonic CD. It is very easy to notice right off the bat if your lagging or not.
At this point, we have several possible causes:
- The Moga App is causing delays (which I think is part of it)
- New Bluetooth Stack is causing delays (bandwidth, timing protocols, etc?)
- Kernel/Rom Combination
- Something else
woow guys,never heard of Moga..now i see the official site and i ended buying it...awesome!and only for not more than 40 euros..don't know you,but for prices in italy it's very cheap!
great 3ad,i anxiously waiting the arrives of mine!
MC4 and gta VC totally different story with Moga!
Anyone having problems or just me?
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Anyone having problems or just me?
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It seems to be a problem with the pivot app, as I was getting input-lag quite quickly when I was trying nova 3 on my galaxy s3 (I'm on 4.1.2, AOKP, btw) while using the universal driver I was having a blast playing emulator games without any input-lag. And yeah, for Modern Combat 3 the right analog stick was not working (also grenade button) when using system mode for the universal driver.
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Bluetooth is very wonky in 4.2.1 and it is most likely why you receive lag.
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I wish it was just that but this is the same on my one s too
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Does anyone know how to run using the moga controller in mc4?
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Does anyone know how to run using the moga controller in mc4?
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Double tap the up. Same goes for kneeling except you double tab the down button.
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I really look forward to test different emus on the Shield: PSX, SNES and GBA. IMHO Shield will be the ultimate retro gaming machine without the need to hack/jailbreak it.
I will want root just to see how much we can push that tegra 4 and sixaxis controller app needs root to work.. since its got HDMI out on it, I can connect it to my TV in my room, sync the PS3 remote and game on!
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Hm. Why won't just buy Ouya? For me portability is more important, so I'm jist planning to play on the Shield screen.
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chortya said:
Hm. Why won't just buy Ouya? For me portability is more important, so I'm jist planning to play on the Shield screen.
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Because shield is way more powerful than OUYA perhaps?
Shields A15 core vs OUYAs A9 gives a huge boost in performance, the Shield is clocked higher and has way more GPU cores.
Someone will probably root the Shield pretty damn quick, sixaxis probably wont be a problem.
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Hm. Why won't just buy Ouya? For me portability is more important, so I'm jist planning to play on the Shield screen.
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i wouldn't recommend an ouya to anyone right now as its a total joke. and unless boxer8 opens it up its less hackable then my GNII
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i wouldn't recommend an ouya to anyone right now as its a total joke. and unless boxer8 opens it up its less hackable then my GNII
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I love my ouya. Dubwars, No Brakes Valet, Stalagflight, Polarity, and more really good games.
Also, if you enjoy local multiplayer games, you can't go wrong with the Ouya.
I own pretty much all of the emulators robert broglia developed and those are the main reason I want a shield. I also have the oid emulators but they are pretty old and not really supported anymore. This will be the best handheld emulating machine out there.
I can't wait to see how it runs playstation and N64 games.
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I own pretty much all of the emulators robert broglia developed and those are the main reason I want a shield. I also have the oid emulators but they are pretty old and not really supported anymore. This will be the best handheld emulating machine out there.
I can't wait to see how it runs playstation and N64 games.
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My old Nexus 7 (tegra 3) ran PSX and N64 games PERFECTLY with a PS3 controller. This is a tegra 4. It will MURDER any emulator you throw at it.
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I own pretty much all of the emulators robert broglia developed and those are the main reason I want a shield. I also have the oid emulators but they are pretty old and not really supported anymore. This will be the best handheld emulating machine out there.
I can't wait to see how it runs playstation and N64 games.
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This x 9999
I can't wait!
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I really look forward to test different emus on the Shield: PSX, SNES and GBA. IMHO Shield will be the ultimate retro gaming machine without the need to hack/jailbreak it.
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I've been playing around with my roomates shield. It has some weird problems with emulators. For instance, the "Y" button is the menu key in android. So whenever I try to bind it to something in an emulator it opens the "menu" of the app instead. Not sure how to fix it.
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I've been playing around with my roomates shield. It has some weird problems with emulators. For instance, the "Y" button is the menu key in android. So whenever I try to bind it to something in an emulator it opens the "menu" of the app instead. Not sure how to fix it.
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For Super GNES, pressing Y doesn't trigger the menu by default.
but upon touching the menu soft button on the screen & pressing Y whilst in the menu, closes the menu.
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For Super GNES, pressing Y doesn't trigger the menu by default.
but upon touching the menu soft button on the screen & pressing Y whilst in the menu, closes the menu.
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That's called a "fallback". If the app isn't catching it when you're trying to assign the button, they somehow really messed up the app.
Fallback occurs when an app doesn't handle a button press. For instance, pressing B falls back to BACK if an app doesn't support the B button. Most controller-based apps do, though... :-/
The more I play the more a realize that there seems to be a slight audio delay in basically any emulator I use. The video quality is great, no stuttering or anything, but it seems like the audio is delayed like a fraction of a second on everything. Like in mega man on nes I push jump and he does the complete jump then I hear the sound or if I shoot the gun the sound comes after the bullet is halfway between his weapon and the edge of the screen.
In the SNES emulator I have tried there seems to be delay. I tested that in contra 3 using weapons.
In mupen64 or supern64 there is a delay which I have noticed playing majora's mask. Swing links weapon and he completes the swing before the weapon makes a sound or if you are running and do a roll, he has completed the roll before you hear the sound.
A quick google search returned a few recent results with similar experiences on various android devices. Anyway, it isn't a deal breaker and I hope it gets sorted at some point.
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The more I play the more a realize that there seems to be a slight audio delay in basically any emulator I use. The video quality is great, no stuttering or anything, but it seems like the audio is delayed like a fraction of a second on everything. Like in mega man on nes I push jump and he does the complete jump then I hear the sound or if I shoot the gun the sound comes after the bullet is halfway between his weapon and the edge of the screen.
In the SNES emulator I have tried there seems to be delay. I tested that in contra 3 using weapons.
In mupen64 or supern64 there is a delay which I have noticed playing majora's mask. Swing links weapon and he completes the swing before the weapon makes a sound or if you are running and do a roll, he has completed the roll before you hear the sound.
A quick google search returned a few recent results with similar experiences on various android devices. Anyway, it isn't a deal breaker and I hope it gets sorted at some point.
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Even on PC emulators, one of their biggest challenges to overcome has been audio lag. Expect this... you're emulating a system.
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Even on PC emulators, one of their biggest challenges to overcome has been audio lag. Expect this... you're emulating a system.
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The shield has REALLY nice speakers. To be honest, any game I'm emulating I've already played on the real version of the console before. (I own almost every classic console). So I just mute it and play music on most emulators. *shrug*
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The shield has REALLY nice speakers.
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Doesnt help audio lag in emulators though.
So which acutal emulator apps are you guys using?
I havn't mess with emulation and want to try it out on the shield.
cant wait
This shield is a beast, in antutu benchmark it scored a massive 39,000 and I havent seen any mobile or tablet that scored that high yet, I have ordered mine and cant wait to get my hands on this. But I was wondering does anyone know if this supports any kind of mapping controls
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I've been playing around with my roomates shield. It has some weird problems with emulators. For instance, the "Y" button is the menu key in android. So whenever I try to bind it to something in an emulator it opens the "menu" of the app instead. Not sure how to fix it.
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This is a problem if the emulator is just mapping hardware buttons and doesn't understand controllers. I don't think there's a lot you can do in that case (except maybe hope they update the emulator). All the emulators I have installed work fine.
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So which acutal emulator apps are you guys using?
I havn't mess with emulation and want to try it out on the shield.
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so far the best emulation and control support I found is:
Snes9x EX+
SuperN64
FPse ( the analog triggers wont map) can any1 find a better one? or Free 1?
PPSSPP (some games load but audio and some models are glitched)
and the dolphin emu is in alpha but i get nothing.<<<i would pay money for this one and the psp one
if they get them optimized for shield
Hi Guys,
So after reading a few threads/reviews I decided to bite the bullet and buy the Nyko ProPad for my emulator needs. I'm currently using RetroArch namely the SNES emulators at the moment, the app seems to auto configure the pad which is great, but there seems to be some keymapping issues especially the start button (which is used fr the game app's options/GUI). This prevent me from starting any of the games i've tried (apart from Mario Cart which seems to start with the A button and works fine..)
Has anyone else had similar problems and may have overcome them?
I know there is nightly version of RetroArch where you can use customer .cfg files which may help.. I'm not sure anyone with any experience?
(just noticed the title should read "Playpad Pro"!)
EDIT - I have now tried this with N64 which i seemed to be able to play fine as i didn't need to use the 'start' button the start the actual game play (golden eye & mario Cart 64)