So this was strange.
Riding the bus in Los Angeles listening to music and surfing the web on my phone when LTE pops up. Now as you can see I have PRL 1 which forces roaming on Verizon towers. I checked my speeds to see if this was indeed true and I was hitting 16mbps+.
This lasted about a minute until I moved out of the area and signal went back to 3G.
Anyone can explain?
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bad_HABIT said:
So this was strange.
Riding the bus in Los Angeles listening to music and surfing the web on my phone when LTE pops up. Now as you can see I have PRL 1 which forces roaming on Verizon towers. I checked my speeds to see if this was indeed true and I was hitting 16mbps+.
This lasted about a minute until I moved out of the area and signal went back to 3G.
Anyone can explain?
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Sure, you rode by a Sprint tower that was broadcasting LTE. You can't connect to Verizon LTE as you don't have the proper hardware (VZW LTE: 700 mhz, Sprint LTE: 1900 mhz)
http://sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/Sprint/lte_310sprint#q=los angeles, ca
They're testing lte in los Angeles that prl is just roaming on Verizon 3g
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Sure, you rode by a Sprint tower that was broadcasting LTE. You can't connect to Verizon LTE as you don't have the proper hardware (VZW LTE: 700 mhz, Sprint LTE: 1900 mhz)
http://sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/Sprint/lte_310sprint#q=los angeles, ca
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That doesn't explain why I don't get LTE signal on the Verizon PRL on spots I know to have Sprint LTE though. For example at home I get a steady LTE signal -although at joke speeds. sometimes I'll be hitting 4mbps other times I'll get lucky if i even hit 1mbps- but I'll still use PRL 1 and not get Sprint LTE.
So was this a glitch that made me jump on Sprint tower although I was on forced roaming?
I think of going back and testing if this happens again. For anyone in LA, this was in Figueroa and Colorado Pasadena, CA
Dude I'm rocking the same prl and I live were Verizon has lte I don't get lte .so you just lucky and live by were they're testing sprint lte
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That doesn't explain why I don't get LTE signal on the Verizon PRL on spots I know to have Sprint LTE though. For example at home I get a steady LTE signal -although at joke speeds. sometimes I'll be hitting 4mbps other times I'll get lucky if i even hit 1mbps- but I'll still use PRL 1 and not get Sprint LTE.
So was this a glitch that made me jump on Sprint tower although I was on forced roaming?
I think of going back and testing if this happens again. For anyone in LA, this was in Figueroa and Colorado Pasadena, CA
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Nice to sew there is some signs of lte in pasadena. I was in west covina over the weekend and there was no lte. There is some in el Monte apparently.
But Sprint LTE is different from PRL as PRL is just for 3g and the gs3 had two antennas .
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LA is starting to go live with LTE. Anywhere near a freeway you'll get it.
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Verizon can eat me
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This has been explained numerous times... when you are roaming (on Verizon) but you have an LTE connection, it is two different signals. You are getting EVDO/1xRTT coverage from Verizon and LTE coverage from Sprint... no one on Sprint is roaming Verizon's LTE. Two different frequency spectrums of throughput.
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This has been explained numerous times... when you are roaming (on Verizon) but you have an LTE connection, it is two different signals. You are getting EVDO/1xRTT coverage from Verizon and LTE coverage from Sprint... no one on Sprint is roaming Verizon's LTE. Two different frequency spectrums of throughput.
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Actually, I think the OP meant it's impossible to grab Sprint's LTE 1900 on a Verizon only PRL. Due to common belief, it's said you must be on a Sprint PRL that has LTE enabled to connect to it. The OP's situation is a rare one.
I wonder if Digiblur can enlighten us here, since I've always believed you needed a Sprint-Only LTE capable PRL to connect to Sprint's LTE network.
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Actually, I think the OP meant it's impossible to grab Sprint's LTE 1900 on a Verizon only PRL. Due to common belief, it's said you must be on a Sprint PRL that has LTE enabled to connect to it. The OP's situation is a rare one.
I wonder if Digiblur can enlighten us here, since I've always believed you needed a Sprint-Only LTE capable PRL to connect to Sprint's LTE network.
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Exactly this.
I wasn't aware I could jump to Sprint LTE on a Verizon only PRL considering in areas I do get Sprint LTE coverage, I won't get 4G unless I update my PRL to a Sprint one.
I hit 13mbit near the bathrooms at the universal studios Hollywood Jurassic parking lot the other week. LAX only had 8mbit LTE
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I thought there was no roaming agreement for LTE on Verizon
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I thought there was no roaming agreement for LTE on Verizon
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Hes not on Verizon LTE, he was on Sprint LTE. What he was wondering is what @Overstew posted about the "common belief is that you need a Sprint only PRL with LTE enabled to catch LTE" bit
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Can't you just check your assigned LTE IP address to see if it was issued by Verizon or not?
I bet if you look at the LTE engineering screens it shows a Sprint PCS G block connection. From what I have seen in the past, you do need a PRL with the MCC/MNC records for that Geo. I have seen the Nexus not need this, probably because it doesn't have a qualcomm chipset.
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I thought there was no roaming agreement for LTE on Verizon
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From what I know.. ..there isn't. He could use roam control to see what carrier he is on.
PRL version 1?
bad_HABIT said:
So this was strange.
Riding the bus in Los Angeles listening to music and surfing the web on my phone when LTE pops up. Now as you can see I have PRL 1 which forces roaming on Verizon towers. I checked my speeds to see if this was indeed true and I was hitting 16mbps+.
This lasted about a minute until I moved out of the area and signal went back to 3G.
Anyone can explain?
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Will someone please link me to the file for PRL version 1? (assuming this is still the best option) I am in a rural area where Verizon has 4Glte but sprint data sucks. I've searched but can't find it. Also, if I switch to s stock rooted rom, flash it, and then recover my current rom (Eclipse), will the PRL stick or revert back to what it was?
Thanks,
foos
fooshack said:
Will someone please link me to the file for PRL version 1? (assuming this is still the best option) I am in a rural area where Verizon has 4Glte but sprint data sucks. I've searched but can't find it. Also, if I switch to s stock rooted rom, flash it, and then recover my current rom (Eclipse), will the PRL stick or revert back to what it was?
Thanks,
foos
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I don't believe that is possible. Verizon and sprint use different frequencies for lte. They only share 3g and 2g frequency.
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I found 1,2,3 and a couple others but none of them will give me 3g but I know it's here. I wasn't trying to get 4g, as nice as it would be.
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Description says it all. When I roam onto Verizons towers I only get. 12Mb/sec which is almost no internet at all. Is there a way to fix this? I know the signle from my tower would give me 2.5-3Mb/sec on my evo just a few weeks ago. Ideas guys? Oh i use Roam Controle to switch over to Verizon if that makes a difference
yeah well the best Sprint 3G I can get in my neighborhood is about .25 Mbps. And it's true for many parts of Manhattan, you can't crack .5 Mbps.
I thought verizon dramatically throttles it for roaming.
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dead78 said:
yeah well the best Sprint 3G I can get in my neighborhood is about .25 Mbps. And it's true for many parts of Manhattan, you can't crack .5 Mbps.
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I dont use 3g much in Manhattan. But where I live(in queens) and where I work and go to school (midtown) I have an awesome 4g signal. When I'm inside, I average anywhere from 6-9mbps and when I'm outside I get about 9-11mbps
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Damn you 4g'ers lol. Kauai doesn't have 4g yet
It all has to do with the 3g radio in the phone...It sucks...I'm in Dallas TX and I get speeds so low I can't load a web site through opera mini. Any other phone I owned Evo4g and 3d where not that slow at all. 4g is not strong enough to keep a signal while moving/driving so I dont use it much.
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Actually, it has all to do with your prl...unless you're on an old or select business prl, almost all current prls only allow 1xrtt data on roaming. So the speeds you are seeing are actually normal 1x speeds
Its confusing though, since our phones seem to be lacking the 1x icon
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squshy 7 said:
Actually, it has all to do with your prl...unless you're on an old or select business prl, almost all current prls only allow 1xrtt data on roaming. So the speeds you are seeing are actually normal 1x speeds
Its confusing though, since our phones seem to be lacking the 1x icon
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This. And it's not just this phone.
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squshy 7 said:
Actually, it has all to do with your prl...unless you're on an old or select business prl, almost all current prls only allow 1xrtt data on roaming. So the speeds you are seeing are actually normal 1x speeds
Its confusing though, since our phones seem to be lacking the 1x icon
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Actually in many areas, the PRL entry for Verizon is defined to search for Verizon 1x signal while also searching for Sprint EV signal. So you could actually be roaming on Verizon for voice, have the EV/3G indicator, but still be using Sprint for EV/3G data.
This can lead to even more confusion.
Can I get a verizon PRL so I can ise there 3g?
bluefire808 said:
Can I get a verizon PRL so I can ise there 3g?
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bluefire808 said:
Can I get a verizon PRL so I can ise there 3g?
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That's not going to help you...Go to the link he posted above and i am sure no one is successfully roaming on 3g on a Samsung phone. Well not SG2 atleast.
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Description says it all. When I roam onto Verizons towers I only get. 12Mb/sec which is almost no internet at all. Is there a way to fix this? I know the signle from my tower would give me 2.5-3Mb/sec on my evo just a few weeks ago. Ideas guys? Oh i use Roam Controle to switch over to Verizon if that makes a difference
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LOL I normally get about .20mbps on Sprint's terrible 3G network, and still no 4G here in Phoenix.
You have to admit Sprints 3G network is a joke. I was sitting at dinner earlier right next to the tower and I was barely breaking 1mbps.
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That's not going to help you...Go to the link he posted above and i am sure no one is successfully roaming on 3g on a Samsung phone. Well not SG2 atleast.
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Speed? Any LOS's?
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That's not going to help you...Go to the link he posted above and i am sure no one is successfully roaming on 3g on a Samsung phone. Well not SG2 atleast.
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My Moment (August, anyway) was able to roam on 3G in northern Wisconsin. Of course, I believe that that part of AllTel went to Cellular One, not Verizon. That's probably the difference.
In fact, I often got better data speeds in the middle of the forest up north than I do at home in Milwaukee. I usually got 150-200kBs (bytes, not bits) whereas at home, I get 15-20kBs.
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Speed? Any LOS's?
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speed heavily depends on time and location
can be anywhere from 500kbs-1.5mbs but as slow as 200 if the tower is super hogged.
Never had a LOS, stock kernel + root
graffixnyc said:
I dont use 3g much in Manhattan. But where I live(in queens) and where I work and go to school (midtown) I have an awesome 4g signal. When I'm inside, I average anywhere from 6-9mbps and when I'm outside I get about 9-11mbps
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Damn I would kill for those speeds. In midtown manhattan and on 4G I can only get around 5mbps download (standing next to a window) and 350kbps download.
I can't even get 4G signal in my house downtown. I get only 1 or 2 bars for 3G unless I am standing next to a window.
I need to test the speed of the 3G next time I roam.
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From what I understand Verizon does not support 3G roaming with Sprint phones you will only get 1x service. 3G roaming was a deal with Alltel, who got bought out by Verizon and ATT. You are going to get crappy speeds if you are roaming on Verizon.
Once Sprint officially rolls out 4G LTE, will their 3G signal and data speeds improve?
lathamc said:
Once Sprint officially rolls out 4G LTE, will their 3G signal and data speeds improve?
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I hope so they turned the switch to a few more markets.
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lathamc said:
Once Sprint officially rolls out 4G LTE, will their 3G signal and data speeds improve?
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That would totally depend on the market you're in.
The teams that are going around putting in the 4G upgrade are doing multiple things depending on the market.
For example, I asked this question specifically to a sprint tech the other day when purchasing my S3.
I live in Miramar/Pembroke Pines Florida (Just West of FtLauderdale).
Signal here is great in some spots (near I-75 or the turnpike) and almost non-existent anywhere else. Hell the other day I saw the nice little "Hey you're now roaming" message on my S3 (I never saw that on my Evo, though the signal was horrible).
The tech said that they are in fact upgrading EVERYTHING in my area, 3G, normal phone cellular and 4G LTE (they said the wimax would not be upgraded of course). It took them a minute to find the info as they had to look it up for my specific area to see what is and is not being upgraded.
She mentioned specifically that it wasn't just upgrading the current towers, but putting in more to improve coverage in areas such as Plantation, pembroke and Miramar specfically.
So my advice is to either wait and see what happens, or try to contact sprint and find out about your area.
Has anyone had in issue running this prl and roaming? My download speeds are not any quicker at all. I can run the 00001 prl and speeds pick way up, but roaming on 11115 doesn't like it's supposed to. I ran this prl on my et4g and it worked great. This prl also didn't seem to work on my previous HTC phones (Evo4g and 3d..).
Any thoughts?
Nothing?
Rob the plumber said:
Nothing?
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ehhh. idk it could be just your location..
i always used 0001 until i got a termination notice then i switched to 11115 and the speeds are the same for me when i set 11115 to roam.
Rob the plumber said:
Has anyone had in issue running this prl and roaming? My download speeds are not any quicker at all. I can run the 00001 prl and speeds pick way up, but roaming on 11115 doesn't like it's supposed to. I ran this prl on my et4g and it worked great. This prl also didn't seem to work on my previous HTC phones (Evo4g and 3d..).
Any thoughts?
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Two possibilities:
1) 11115 is not going to guarantee 3G roaming in all markets. Sprint only has 3G roaming for certain accounts in certain markets. No Sprint PRL will help you in those locations. You may just be in a location that Sprint does not have a 3G roaming agreement with anyone.
2) 11115 is a rather OLD PRL... It may be referring to 3G towers, but those towers may no longer be in service or have been reclassified in a roaming agreement to be 1x only.
That being said... 11115 provides 3G roaming in Milwaukee on my SG2, but 1x on my SG3. My SG3 gives me great 3G speeds on 12121.
Dalmus said:
Two possibilities:
That being said... 11115 provides 3G roaming in Milwaukee on my SG2, but 1x on my SG3. My SG3 gives me great 3G speeds on 12121.
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Is 12121 Sprint prl.
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dito33 said:
Is 12121 Sprint prl.
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Yes..Sprint Corp PRL. I use it successfully for VZW roaming 3G while maintaining Sprint 3G while not roaming.
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Thanks! It must be the phone. My GS2 has great speed while roaming on the 11115 prl, while my GS3 can be sitting right next to it and be very slow on the same prl.
The 12121 prl wouldn't 3g roam for me in metro Detroit, but 1337 does. Fyi.
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The 12121 prl wouldn't 3g roam for me in metro Detroit, but 1337 does. Fyi.
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12121 roams me onto US Cellular as a first choice. 99% of the time it's a 3G signal. Sometimes US Cellular only has a 1x signal in an area, then I'm screwed.
If US Cellular isn't available at all, THEN is goes to Verizon.
How
Dalmus said:
12121 roams me onto US Cellular as a first choice. 99% of the time it's a 3G signal. Sometimes US Cellular only has a 1x signal in an area, then I'm screwed.
If US Cellular isn't available at all, THEN is goes to Verizon.
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Someone please explain the procedure for manipulating the PRL.. I need to try the 0001
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1880781
Not sure where else to put this, quick question specifically regarding our phones. I've read that Samsung has a radio bug making it so we cannot roam on the PCS band. After using roam control and a bunch of PRLs, I've been unable to roam on 3G data in my area. How can I check if verizon broadcasts on PCS in my area? or does anyone know off the bat if it's possible to roam on verizon's 3G in southern california (minus san diego)?
Verizon? Epic 4G is Sprint. You possibly talking about a Fascinate?
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no you can edit your PRL and force roam to use verizon's data as both networks are CDMA. except where I live apparently.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898628
There is a pre-edited prl somewhere for the epic but I forgot where. If you can find it, it should let you roam
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nvertigo said:
no you can edit your PRL and force roam to use verizon's data as both networks are CDMA. except where I live apparently.
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Oops, sorry, don't quite know about US networks, I'm in China
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Hello all!
I have an S4. It's fairly new. I like it and all, good phone. Anyway, my one beef is that I have 2 options for data service - 4g and Edge (no LTE here yet.) I wish that I could use 3g when 4g isn't available (edge is too slow) but nothing I've tried works... APN settings, cell network settings.... It's only 2g or 4g. I live in a reframed area (1900 MHz 3g... Cincinnati) which, according to the phone's specs, it should support. Tmobile support said on Twitter that it wouldn't get any 3g, but I like to take what they say with a pinch of salt, especially since a flagship phone not getting 3g is pretty ridiculous.
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Anyone know anything?
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I'll give you my best guess. T-mobile doesn't have 4G. They call it 4G, but it's really like 3.5G or HSPA. It will show on your phone as 4G though when you are connected to any "H" network or UMTS bands. When you go into menu> settings> more networks> mobile networks> network mode, you should set it to GSM/WCDMA (auto connect) to force 3.5G or 4G as tmo calls it.
I know this doesn't answer your question per se. Edge or "E" is slow as molasses. Verizon's 3G is almost as slow believe it or not (in my location).
Do you not have WIFI?
Or you can dial *#2263# and you will be in service mode. Choose Lte Gsm. It will force Lte
He doesn't have LTE
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jbdan said:
I'll give you my best guess. T-mobile doesn't have 4G. They call it 4G, but it's really like 3.5G or HSPA. It will show on your phone as 4G though when you are connected to any "H" network or UMTS bands. When you go into menu> settings> more networks> mobile networks> network mode, you should set it to GSM/WCDMA (auto connect) to force 3.5G or 4G as tmo calls it.
I know this doesn't answer your question per se. Edge or "E" is slow as molasses. Verizon's 3G is almost as slow believe it or not (in my location).
Do you not have WIFI?
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Yeah, I understand that it's "3.5G" but there should be 3G too....not just "3.5G" and 2G...I'm wondering if I can get 3G on this and if not, why I don't. I have Wifi but not when I leave the house
In short the answer is no. Tmo has its network and it is the way it is. Were you with a cdma carrier (sprint / Verizon) before? Sounds like that's what you are looking for
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No, AT&T and Cincinnati Bell before, never used CDMA.
I read that when T-Mobile upgraded their network, they replaced their 3g with 3.5g - leaving only a few small pockets of T-Mobile 3g remaining. Oh well, I guess that's why they're adding LTE - will be nice when they finally get their stuff straight around here!
Thanks for your help
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isoh said:
Yeah, I understand that it's "3.5G" but there should be 3G too....not just "3.5G" and 2G...I'm wondering if I can get 3G on this and if not, why I don't. I have Wifi but not when I leave the house
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I live in an area with lte but recently traveled to another city. While driving on the interstate I was getting anywhere from E (in middle of nowhere), 3G (near the city) and 4G (once in the city). So I know this phone is capable of 3G in area with no lte/4G
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I live in an area with lte but recently traveled to another city. While driving on the interstate I was getting anywhere from E (in middle of nowhere), 3G (near the city) and 4G (once in the city). So I know this phone is capable of 3G in area with no lte/4G
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Thanks! Must be just T-Mo's network then. At least I'll have 4g and LTE when they finally get it here.
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isoh said:
Hello all!
I have an S4. It's fairly new. I like it and all, good phone. Anyway, my one beef is that I have 2 options for data service - 4g and Edge (no LTE here yet.) I wish that I could use 3g when 4g isn't available (edge is too slow) but nothing I've tried works... APN settings, cell network settings.... It's only 2g or 4g. I live in a reframed area (1900 MHz 3g... Cincinnati) which, according to the phone's specs, it should support. Tmobile support said on Twitter that it wouldn't get any 3g, but I like to take what they say with a pinch of salt, especially since a flagship phone not getting 3g is pretty ridiculous.
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
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If I remember correctly when t-mo started with "4g" the majority of the phones had 2 radios, one for 2g and one for 3/4g and it is basically the same way still. So you're never going to see anything in regards to 3g only. but even though your data connection icon may say 4g, u could technically be on 3g at the time.