once rooted, you can never go back? - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

Once you root a phone, is possible to go back to a fully stock rom?
backstory:
not long after the s3 was released, i rooted it.
a month or so later, i went back to a stock rom.
what i noticed, my phone never seemed to update to the latest releases.
doing it wrong?

You can Odin back to 100% stock unrooted if you really want. The download link is in the Android Development thread. It has the latest update available both rooted and not. Fact is, there's not much reason to give up root for an OTA as a stock release will be available here within a day or two - sometimes hours. And if you're worried about your carrier if you had to turn the phone in, they really don't care. Just get rid of the custom ROM if you can.
ODIN: http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722686
STOCK FIRMWARE: http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625

Why would you want to is a better question?
Aside from returning for warranty, I see no reason to ever unroot!

crixley said:
Why would you want to is a better question?
Aside from returning for warranty, I see no reason to ever unroot!
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Tried one of the custom ROMs on here, no real issues.
Tried CM10 and it was a total cluster-fok.
Only reason I liked being rooted was tethering and adblocker.

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Upcoming Update

If and when the Gingerbread update gets pushed out, how will us custom ROMmers be notified? Will we receive notifications asking us to download the update and then have to deny it? Will we have to unroot then upgrade? I wasn't around for the 2.2 update so I am a little curious as to how this all works on the Evo. Feel like such a noob right now but I really don't feel liking bricking my Evo due to an act of stupidity.
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
You aren't going to need to do anything, other than NOT take the OTA. The only thing you will need to do is wait from 2-10 hours after the update is out in the wild for the devs to get their hands on it and give us a fully rooted build to flash. It does not take long around here. There is absolutely no need to unroot and take the OTA. Who knows, if you did that you may not even be able to root again. So basically all you're going to need to do for the update is wait for the devs, and then flash a rom as usual. Maybe some new radios or something too, who knows.
I'm more concerned about when they will push the damn update. *Supposedly* it's Q2, but I'd bet if that's true, it will be late Q2.
r916 said:
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Sure, lots of people say "wait for a rooted version of the update," but all I want to know is, is it POSSIBLE to safely upgrade even if you are rooted? Would flashing the stock update remove ClockWork recovery?
yes i was rooted before 2.2 and i was having a crazy day, long story short i accepted the OTA not paying attention and it got me a weird reboot then i was unrooted and on 2.2 i had to wait for a root method for it. but i heard of some people having their phone glitch in crazy ways, also that first OTA sprint rolled out had a bug that was bricking some phones
RileyGrant said:
If and when the Gingerbread update gets pushed out, how will us custom ROMmers be notified? Will we receive notifications asking us to download the update and then have to deny it? Will we have to unroot then upgrade? I wasn't around for the 2.2 update so I am a little curious as to how this all works on the Evo. Feel like such a noob right now but I really don't feel liking bricking my Evo due to an act of stupidity.
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Developers will simply make new roms, and then you can flash the "update" of that rom. it'd be the same way of flashing CM7 nightlies.
Or just make sure you are s-off, take the update, install it. Then install SU from recovery and you are good to go. Thats the whole point of s-off (other than flashing PRI, NV, and Radios of course)
rugedraw said:
If you rooted with Unrevoked and have Unrevoked Forever, then theoretically you should be able to flash the update and still be s-off to flash a rooted rom over the update. You'd have to push the custom recovery back onto the phone, though. However, I wouldn't be the guinea pig for the theory myself. I'd keep 2.2 until a rooted 2.3 rom is available and then flash that. No one knows what will happen if you flash the OTA update as no one has is or knows what's inside of it.
Once it starts being pushed out, it will just be a matter of time before some posts a thread either:
a) crying because the update broke their root.
b) gloating because the update did NOT break their root.
Basically, don't accept it. Play it safe and wait. We've been on 2.2 for well over half a year, so 1 more day isn't going to kill anyone.
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To make it simple, the result of accepting the OTA would either:
A- luckily do nothing
B- "Break" your phone and not be able to re-root
r916 said:
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
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You are correct!
Theoretical question... If you're on a custom non-stock ROM (Myn or CM or whatever) and you accept the OTA, what would happen to the ROM? I don't think it would revert you back to the stock ROM because that ROM isn't on your phone anymore. I can't imagine CM would continue to work since it's not Sense. Would a Sense-based ROM (assuming you reinstalled all the Sprint bloatware) continue working with all the customizations even though you don't have root any more? Or does the OTA rewrite the entire ROM? Or would you just screw up your phone unpredictably?
I'm certainly not going to try this myself, but I'm curious as to what would happen.
phsteve said:
Theoretical question... If you're on a custom non-stock ROM (Myn or CM or whatever) and you accept the OTA, what would happen to the ROM? I don't think it would revert you back to the stock ROM because that ROM isn't on your phone anymore. I can't imagine CM would continue to work since it's not Sense. Would a Sense-based ROM (assuming you reinstalled all the Sprint bloatware) continue working with all the customizations even though you don't have root any more? Or does the OTA rewrite the entire ROM? Or would you just screw up your phone unpredictably?
I'm certainly not going to try this myself, but I'm curious as to what would happen.
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The OTA update would include the new stock 2.3 rom in it. It would wipe whatever you have on your phone (regardless of whether it is Sense or not) and install the OEM Sprint 2.3-based rom that all will eventually be on all new Evos when HTC ships them out.

Stock 2.3.4

Looking to put my wifes Inc 2 back to stock. We just got the phone from verizon via replacement for bricking hers during the new software update. As soon as I got it I had it rooted. Now, the camera will not work at all. So before I go back to Verizon I really need to get it back to stock. So I checked the Inc 2 Dev forum and didnt see anything but the ChinaCom update. I need the VZW WWE stock 2.3.4 So if anyone could point in the right direction, thatd be fantastic. Ive also tried flashing 4 separate ROMs and 3rd party camera apps, it just FC's. So Im going to take it back AGAIN and see what theyll do for me.
Thanks!
Try here for the RUU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033922
Or just try different Tom's no need to go to Verizon if you can fix it yourself
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Thanks Normal, trying that now, 81Worth, Ive flashed 4 different roms ranging from 2.3.4 to 2.3.7 none worked
PsychoticThoughts said:
Thanks Normal, trying that now, 81Worth, Ive flashed 4 different roms ranging from 2.3.4 to 2.3.7 none worked
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Scroll to the near end of the thread, I believe this is the latest version he posted in early November:
RUU_Vivo_W_Gingerbread_S_VERIZON_WWE_4.08.605.3_Radio_1.09.01.0722_NV_VZW1.92_release_212888_signed. exe
There really should be more of an ability to reset to factory, literally.
It's nice being able to wipe all user data and stuff but the custom rom still remains.
Sometimes people need to return a phone or need to go back to stock to install an OTA update ya know!
But custom roms are generally superior so whatever.
cskamoskva said:
There really should be more of an ability to reset to factory, literally.
It's nice being able to wipe all user data and stuff but the custom rom still remains.
Sometimes people need to return a phone or need to go back to stock to install an OTA update ya know!
But custom roms are generally superior so whatever.
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I Agree with this. There's been plenty of times where I have needed to sell or bring the phone back to the store, but without it being TRULY stock, they wont do anything. Plus alot of folks don't want to buy a rooted or S-Off phone becaues it voids the warranty.
There needs to be a way to completely revert to stock. Like it was out of the box. As easily as possible.

[Q]How to Undo Root/Custom ROM ?

Hello,
About a month ago I rooted and installed a custom JB ROM (Kangdroid I believe?) onto my AT&T Galaxy SIII with the custom recovery mod. Now that the official release of JB has come out from AT&T I want to return my phone to it's original factory state with no custom anything, and then update to the official JB release. I don't want to use a custom un-bloated ROM. Call me crazy but I really didn't want to root/mess with the phone in the first place but I really, really, really wanted Jelly Bean. I already have backed up my contacts since that is the only thing I really need to save from my phone at the moment. I can download all of my apps again, etc. I tried searching the forums but couldn't come up with a very clear answer on how to do this. I found it hard to figure out exactly what I needed to do, and since I did this so long ago, I pretty much forgot how to do all of the little things that made my first attempt at flashing/rooting successful. I guess my question is this: What software do I need and what are some links (if any) on this site to help me return the phone to it's original out-of-the box state so that I can update my OS with the Samsung Kies software. Thanks a lot for your help and I hope to hear from some of you soon. Sorry for noobing it up in here.
easterdev said:
Hello,
About a month ago I rooted and installed a custom JB ROM (Kangdroid I believe?) onto my AT&T Galaxy SIII with the custom recovery mod. Now that the official release of JB has come out from AT&T I want to return my phone to it's original factory state with no custom anything, and then update to the official JB release. I don't want to use a custom un-bloated ROM. Call me crazy but I really didn't want to root/mess with the phone in the first place but I really, really, really wanted Jelly Bean. I already have backed up my contacts since that is the only thing I really need to save from my phone at the moment. I can download all of my apps again, etc. I tried searching the forums but couldn't come up with a very clear answer on how to do this. I found it hard to figure out exactly what I needed to do, and since I did this so long ago, I pretty much forgot how to do all of the little things that made my first attempt at flashing/rooting successful. I guess my question is this: What software do I need and what are some links (if any) on this site to help me return the phone to it's original out-of-the box state so that I can update my OS with the Samsung Kies software. Thanks a lot for your help and I hope to hear from some of you soon. Sorry for noobing it up in here.
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The same way you rooted it with odin .. download the stock rom from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
push it on with odin and that should revert your phone back to stock ..

I went from 4.3 to 4.1.1 with no issues.

My note 2 has always been stable on 4.1.1 stock and I debloated it myself. So when ever an update came out rather than risking my stable phone I would just flash the new baseband from it and keep 4.1.1, until tesh stopped updating his thread. Recently my screen cracked so I used my insurance for the first time. The new phone came with 4.3 and the knox bootloader plus the CMK7 baseband. I did a cwm backup on my cracked screen phone. Used odin to flash cwm onto the new phone, which did cause knox to show I did but who really cares since the phone is so far out of warranty anyway. Then loaded my cwm backup onto the new phone. What I ended up with is my nice stable phone with everything working plus the new baseband CMK7 stayed but the bootloader is still the new knox one. Everything is working just fine, so whats the big thing with everyone saying you cant go back from 4.3? I went from 4.3 to 4.1.1 just fine via cwm.
Cool story bro
Joe333x said:
My note 2 has always been stable on 4.1.1 stock and I debloated it myself. So when ever an update came out rather than risking my stable phone I would just flash the new baseband from it and keep 4.1.1, until tesh stopped updating his thread. Recently my screen cracked so I used my insurance for the first time. The new phone came with 4.3 and the knox bootloader plus the CMK7 baseband. I did a cwm backup on my cracked screen phone. Used odin to flash cwm onto the new phone, which did cause knox to show I did but who really cares since the phone is so far out of warranty anyway. Then loaded my cwm backup onto the new phone. What I ended up with is my nice stable phone with everything working plus the new baseband CMK7 stayed but the bootloader is still the new knox one. Everything is working just fine, so whats the big thing with everyone saying you cant go back from 4.3? I went from 4.3 to 4.1.1 just fine via cwm.
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If you use PC Odin to go backwards there are uncomfortable results.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Double0EK said:
Cool story bro
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How many of your posts are worthless? All of them? You sir are whats wrong with xda. The fact that every one thinks you cant go backwards from 4.3 just got proven wrong as long as you do it with cwm and not odin apparently.
There are multiple threads regarding your cool story.
The issue people are having is not being able to downgrade to 4.1.x OS. Its the bootloader that people were discussing and when coming from a 4.3 bootloader is impossible to downgrade to the 4.1.x bootloader/s.
Maybe doing a search in the future will get you some answers about the whole 4.3 bootloader and downgrading that you're taking about.
Good luck to you..
Ok but like I said I have the 4.3 bootloader and a 4.1 rom with no issues using cwm. So there is no issue with having a 4.1.1 rom and the 4.3 bootloader. If you have nothing constructive to add then dont post anything.
I mostly Lurk on XDA, But you sir are a different kind of stupid.
Clearly you haven't played with 4.1 long enough to see what the issues are, Its been well known that you can return to a older rom.
but knox has issues by doing so.
Joe333x said:
Ok but like I said I have the 4.3 bootloader and a 4.1 rom with no issues using cwm. So there is no issue with having a 4.1.1 rom and the 4.3 bootloader. If you have nothing constructive to add then dont post anything.
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smokeingit said:
I mostly Lurk on XDA, But you sir are a different kind of stupid.
Clearly you haven't played with 4.1 long enough to see what the issues are, Its been well known that you can return to a older rom.
but knox has issues by doing so.
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Lol long enough? How about since release day when I bought it? My phone is stable as can be with no force closes completely self deblaoted, working wifi tether, bunch of xposed modules and everything is pefect. For the most part the OS that a phone releases with is typically the most stable, there are obviously exceptions but I have been doing this since the G1 days and as soon as you start getting flash happy is when you have issues. Only thing I update is the baseband/modem. Also dont name call over the Internet its childish but then again most people on here are typically teenagers. Could you elaborate on the issues knox should be causing me but isn't?
This topic has been mentioned many times, there's no room for the useless bickering going on in here.
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Have a great day!

Back to stock and stock recovery?

I'm expecting a new replacement phone today and need to take this one back to all stock before I send it back.
Right now I'm running 5.1.1 rooted with TWRP. Unfortunately,I rooted before the method of not tripping Knox was released so,I guess I'm SOL there?
Any help appreciated as to what exact file I need to Odin?
Thanks.
Why are you replacing your phone with another?
Flashing stock firmware with odin should do it.
Delete SU before flash.
Pp.
PanchoPlanet said:
Why are you replacing your phone with another?
Flashing stock firmware with odin should do it.
Delete SU before flash.
Pp.
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It has a couple flaws I can't get past.
Thanks for the reply.
After getting your replacement phone try running stock for a while, you can disable a lot of junk Samsung and t mobile apps and let the phone break in on stock for a while ( rooting and custom recovery is a mess anyway, at least until it gets figured out ) and you'll be surprised at how well this phone can operate and the long battery life you can get just running stock firmware.
I'm very impressed and quite happy with my s6e for now just the way it is, stock.
When this kernel thing gets sorted out or when the proper exploit is figured out, I will root.
Pp.
PanchoPlanet said:
After getting your replacement phone try running stock for a while, you can disable a lot of junk Samsung and t mobile apps and let the phone break in on stock for a while ( rooting and custom recovery is a mess anyway, at least until it gets figured out ) and you'll be surprised at how well this phone can operate and the long battery life you can get just running stock firmware.
I'm very impressed and quite happy with my s6e for now just the way it is, stock.
When this kernel thing gets sorted out or when the proper exploit is figured out, I will root.
Pp.
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The replacement came with 5.0,so far it's running great.
Think I'll stay here awhile.
lurk3r2013 said:
The replacement came with 5.0,so far it's running great.
Think I'll stay here awhile.
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I going to upgrade to 5.1.1 do ota, stay away from odin for now.
I did the ota update and this phone runs great for non rooted s6e, for now, or until they perfect root without issues.
Pp.
PanchoPlanet said:
I going to upgrade to 5.1.1 do ota, stay away from odin for now.
I did the ota update and this phone runs great for non rooted s6e, for now, or until they perfect root without issues.
Pp.
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I'm itching to pull the plug on the 5.1.1 OTA,do you recommend it?
Battery life is the best it has ever been on this new phone running 5.0.
lurk3r2013 said:
I'm itching to pull the plug on the 5.1.1 OTA,do you recommend it?
Battery life is the best it has ever been on this new phone running 5.0.
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Go for it.
And you too can be one of the many that are enjoying there GS6E to the max with all its features working properly including fingerprint scanner.
Pp. Stock and loving it.

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