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Best ROM?

I am having a serious amount of trouble trying to decide what ROMs to flash and which to leave in the dust. I'm also contemplating cyanogenmod, but it's still beta. HELP!

"best" is really subjective. Everyone has their own tastes. I say stick with stock for a while, at least you know you will get the OTA updates. If it meets your needs, great. Read up on the features of each ROM, and see if any of the features are interesting to you, try them out.

brandonyoung said:
"best" is really subjective. Everyone has their own tastes. I say stick with stock for a while, at least you know you will get the OTA updates. If it meets your needs, great. Read up on the features of each ROM, and see if any of the features are interesting to you, try them out.
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I know it's subjective. I want a general idea of what the best ROM would be all around. I'll wait for cyanogenmod 9... Either way, I'm happy with stock, I see so many ROMs in the development section that I feel confused. And I only wanted a general, basic suggestion. Maybe you (or someone else) could give me at least that?

What do you feel you would gain by going to a custom rom?

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What do you feel you would gain by going to a custom rom?
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Little enhancements for ICS. Speed enhancements. Optimizations. Tweakability. Flashing different kernels for OC and UV support (although I don't fully understand it). insecure boot image. Root (although you don't necessarily need a custom ROM for the latter two)...
Not a big fan of themes.
I guess, I've used cyanogen exclusively on my Nexus One, and my Nexus S. I want to branch out and try other ROMs, but I'm also not a flash head. I'd rather find one good ROM and stick with it (like I'm doing with stock). I've tried MoDaCo's (Paul O'Brien's stuff) and Android Revolution HD, and I feel like they're not too different than stock, so I revert back. What do you use?
Thanks.

Try out the gummi rom. It's based off the 4.0.3 build and basically stock, which IMO is perfect. It has the extended power down menu (reboot/recovery/bootloader), the battery percentage in the battery icon. And the Gapps for it includes Google Wallet which is nice. The kernel it's running can be overclocked and undervolted. All in all its a very nice looking rom and I haven't ran into a problem with it yet.

I prefer Android Open Kang Project by Roman, or Bigxie's AOSP 4.0.3 stock w/optimizations (currently using) with Franco Kernel (nightly 3)

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Try out the gummi rom. It's based off the 4.0.3 build and basically stock, which IMO is perfect. It has the extended power down menu (reboot/recovery/bootloader), the battery percentage in the battery icon. And the Gapps for it includes Google Wallet which is nice. The kernel it's running can be overclocked and undervolted. All in all its a very nice looking rom and I haven't ran into a problem with it yet.
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That sounds really good. I think I might try it out.
RMatt1992 said:
I prefer Android Open Kang Project by Roman, or Bigxie's AOSP 4.0.3 stock w/optimizations (currently using) with Franco Kernel (nightly 3)
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Thanks man, I just feel like I don't want to deal with nightlies. This phone is my daily driver so I want something stable. That's why stock is kicking so much ass right now. But obviously owning a Nexus I feel like I missing out on some really important mods and what not.
I want a ROM that doesn't require a lot of maintenance.
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I would definitely recommend Roman's AOKP. There's nothing unstable about it and it offers more customization than anything else released currently.

i downloaded the gummi one but heard of people having gapps issues so hesitated. currently using ZYGOT3 1.3 as it specified "final" and was posted by Droid Th3ory who made tons of roms for the Thunderbolt & a few Bionic ones. seems stable so far & better then stock.

Anyone feel that 4.0.3 is a bit more laggy in certain areas than 4.0.1 (or 4.0.2)?
I notice right away that the task switcher is a lot quicker (no lag on pushing the button) with 4.0.3 but I noticed everything else a bit more sluggish. Watching the apps flow in when pushing the app drawer button is chunky with 4.0.3 and pulling down the notification bar stutters as well.
This is my experience with AOKP and Bigxie's AOSP which are both 4.0.3 ROMs compared with the stock 4.0.1 ROM that came with the phone.

tct08 said:
I would definitely recommend Roman's AOKP. There's nothing unstable about it and it offers more customization than anything else released currently.
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I'll give that a shot as well. Thank you.
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Are there any stable stock ICS or Jelly Bean Roms?

I bought a SGH-T989-D (telus version) and it came rooted with cyanogenmod installed. It was so fast and beautiful but it had many major bugs that made it unusable (call echo, battery life, caller id broken, random restarts). It's been about 4 months so I wanted to see what the most stable roms are.
I'm looking for a rom that is fast and close to stock ICS or maybe jellybean if that's out yet. I'm currently on touchwiz ics but it's not as smooth or snappy as the buggy rom the phone came with was.
Thanks in advance and sorry if this is noobish.

This one is stable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25363458
Its the stable version of CM 9
And my personal favorite AOKP 7/15 milestone 6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28327124
Only issue I have is speaker phone sounds choppy.
As for JB, there is good progress, but not a DD in my IMHO.
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The one by BinaryBiship is pretty good. And there's nightly builds so at least you know they're actively updating.
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this question gets asked quite a bit and my opinion on the matter(since you asked) is bugs don't seem to pop up for everyone. If the phone you had had issues maybe it was just that version of CM. If you like CM then I would suggest trying a nightly, RC2 or AOKP.
There are different developers that have kanged CM as well so try that. Since what is a bug for one person is not necessarily a bug for others its a trial and error. Anyone can post a link and say this or that is the best but only your real world experience can determine if its your dd= daily driver or not....
I have been running CM9 or AOKP since I got my phone and no issues at all...No radio issues No GPS issue No hot reboot issues... so far nada... Give them all a try thats my opinion

As said earlier, CM9 and AOKP are both great. My only issue with them is that they don't have wifi calling so be wary of that if you need that feature.

Just update to the latest cm9 nightly at get.cm for the Hercules. If you are already on cm9 then make a back up and then wipe system, cache, and dalvik. Then flash cm9 and gapps.
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Love the latest by Darkside. Its not pure stock but the latest is speedy, GREAT battery, and solid enough to be my DD ROM ..
Stats in sig. Good luck!

CM9 has come a LONG way these past months and virtually every bug you posted has been fixed. CM9 RC2 has been running beautifully for me for nearly a week and a half now. I recently took the plunge with TDJ's latest Venom kernel and it's been running even smoother. AOSP ROMs may have been buggy in the past but now there really isn't any reason to go back to TW. Unless of course you need wifi calling... but our devs are currently working on that and there are alternatives that allow you to call from wifi (Talkatone, Vonage, GrooveIP). So really, in my opinion, there really is no reason to go back to carrier bloat.

You could always use odin to flash a stock ICS, then root and remove bloat. You'd have a completely stock ICS running stable. As long as you're rooted, you can always flash modifications down the road. If you want a little extra performance but want to still maintain stock as much as possible, you can just flash a modified kernel on top.

Best CM10 ROM out at the moment?

I'm presently looking for a CM10 Jelly Bean ROM that has the least bugs.I am travelling soon and need a solid ROM so it doesn't give out randomly.
List of AOKP/CM10 JB Links:
1) task650 and Ktoonsez: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684.
This one I tried about three weeks ago, was way too buggy. I switched. There`s many more bug releases though, so is this a viable option as an everyday driver?
2) cyanogen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778270
This one so far has worked best for me, but there`s still quite a few bugs that bother me, but I could use it if needed. I just need a stable daily driver.
3) krarvind: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865262
I`ve never tried this one, was just released today. Any input on lag, glitches, bugs, etc please let me know.
Firstly, I`d like to thank you for the support. I have have two more questions.
Which Jelly Bean kernel is currently the most stable?
Currently for CM10 there are two kernels released, as far as I know.
The first being again, by Ktoonsez: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756776
The second is the faux123 kernel. This is the one I think I should personally use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785472
Thank you all in advanced, I would really appreciate the help!

Hypercore said:
I'm presently looking for a CM10 Jelly Bean ROM that has the least bugs.I am travelling soon and need a solid ROM so it doesn't give out randomly.
List of AOKP/CM10 JB Links:
1) task650 and Ktoonsez: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684.
This one I tried about three weeks ago, was way too buggy. I switched. There`s many more bug releases though, so is this a viable option as an everyday driver?
2) cyanogen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778270
This one so far has worked best for me, but there`s still quite a few bugs that bother me, but I could use it if needed. I just need a stable daily driver.
3) krarvind: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865262
I`ve never tried this one, was just released today. Any input on lag, glitches, bugs, etc please let me know.
Firstly, I`d like to thank you for the support. I have have two more questions.
Which Jelly Bean kernel is currently the most stable?
Currently for CM10 there are two kernels released, as far as I know.
The first being again, by Ktoonsez: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756776
The second is the faux123 kernel. This is the one I think I should personally use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785472
Thank you all in advanced, I would really appreciate the help!
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I have been very happy with CM10

AOKP is working great for me right now.
I like Ktoonsez and Task rom then.

I apologize if this sounds rude but neither of your answers helped at all. You basically said you like AOKP and CM10. They`re all AOKP and CM10 AFAIK.

Hypercore said:
I apologize if this sounds rude but neither of your answers helped at all. You basically said you like AOKP and CM10. They`re all AOKP and CM10 AFAIK.
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You are going to end up with nothing but opinions here. You need to try each and see if they work for you. No one uses their phone exactly the way you do so can't tell you which bugs YOU may find and which ones you can live with. Best ROM threads are bull**** and should not be asked. Read the OPs of each and decide which is best for you!
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Not being a ****. Not being rude.
Just putting in my 2 cents.
If you need something 100 percent stable. That is going to perform. And you do not have 100 percent access to a computer or w.e to access with your phone for Odin in case things go haywire. Stock is the best most stable thing out there.
But. Like the above user said. Its all a matter of opinions. No facts. But I would say ktoons AOKP atm for most stable.
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Slim Bean has got to be the most stable and bug free jelly bean Rom i have used. And i have used them all.
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You are going to end up with nothing but opinions here. You need to try each and see if they work for you. No one uses their phone exactly the way you do so can't tell you which bugs YOU may find and which ones you can live with. Best ROM threads are bull**** and should not be asked. Read the OPs of each and decide which is best for you!
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what rom do you use?
btw i was in FL last week and went to coco beach.. that place was sweet

They all have small bugs here and there. If you can live with those particular bugs, then all are pretty much daily drivers.
IMO, the CM9 based AOKP by Task/Ktoonsez is 98% bug free.
Biggest issue is flakey vibration when typing. Sometimes it vibrates, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it vibrates softly.
Otherwise it's almost on par with a stock ROM bug-wise. I wish we could get someone to fix the vibration issue. It's an amazing freakin ROM otherwise. Best I've ever used.
And, it's just as fast/smooth as JB with the same (IMO) battery performance when used with Ktoonsez AOSP kernel.
I keep trying CM10 and JB AOKP and keep going back to ICS AOKP. But JB is getting close!
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I should mention that I always use 3rd party camera, phone, gallery and SMS apps. So if ICS AOKP has issues with those apps, I don't know about it because I don't use them.

What are your opinion of AOKP roms?

I'm not too new to Android. I'm not a developer, just a lover of the system. I hated the stock rom on my SGS3 and rooted and flashed the device to put some new roms on it. I've bounced around from rom to rom. I've settled on the ParanoidAOKPdroid rom.
I have some problems with it being stable (mostly sleep of deaths), but I expect that with any custom rom. So my question to you guys is this, What AOKP rom is the best rom that you've found? What one is the most stable, easiest to use, ect..

I found aokp on my samsung infuse 4g. I used to try a new rom every two weeks or so. Once I installed aokp on my infuse I have not had any real desire to go to any other rom which has xfered to my sgs3. I'm currently using task and ktoonsez's aokp and haven't tried the other ones for the s3 to give you my opinion on them.

Ive used task's aokp before. Its pretty solid and stable. I dont recall getting SOD on his aokp. I would recommend giving it a try.
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Yeah, I use task's and toonz AOKP rom as well. Its amazing. Can't go back to TW after this.

I've run AOKP on my past Galaxy Player 5.0, and now I'm using task's AOKP on my GS3. It's really great - a lot of useful new features (which makes it much easier in day-to-day use), it's really fast, but I wouldn't call it quite as stable as touchwiz roms. It's not actually unstable at all, just touchy sometimes. I've never had a sleep of death or anything running task's ROM, usually any funkyness is my fault.
There's a definite learning curve to AOKP, it's a much more "vanilla android" experience than touchwiz but it's worth it. I just make sure I have a backup in TWRP (or CWM if you choose to use it) made frequently while I'm playing with stuff. Get AOKP installed and stable => do a backup. Install some more stuff, get it stable => do a backup, etc. This way you can play with stuff and not worry about breaking anything, you can go right back to where you were if you happen to make it unstable in any way.
Oh, and KT747 kernel is definitely worth a try too. EXCELLENT kernel.

Stock Good or would rom be better?

I really dont know If I want to run complete stock or run a rom. I don't like themes unless it was on a HTC phone with sense , but I like pure stock. Is having a rom will I get better performance cause ive ran AnTuTU & and Quadrant and seem to get better results by a little but I know people say not to go by benchmarks. I just want the best Performance and reliability.

Best performance is still subjective without narrowing in on a certain aspect. In the end it all comes down to your perspective of what works best for you in your usage patterns.
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I would love to help you, but help yourself first: ask a better question
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You could try ARHD. It's completely stock look, just changes "under the hood", if you will. Or you could remain with Stock, nothing wrong with that.

Well I do see a benchmark increase when using a ROM but im not sure to belaive it or not. I`m not sure ive been going back in foruth for almost a week now:laugh: I just wanna have something to leave on there lol.
I was using Omega but I dont like the its currently using a leaked 4.1.2 instead of offical 4.1.1

Most of the roms in the rom section are all 4.1.2 anyway. So you would have to be on that firmware if you flash a custom rom.
A little bit of my history. I've flashed a lot of custom roms for this phone and I've always found that I always revert back to stock rom. It's the most stable and battery efficient. There's always a problem with some app which I use which doesn't work when I used a custom rom.
So I gave up and just stuck to stock rom.
Beamed from Jupiter on my Galaxy Note II

AjunNg said:
Most of the roms in the rom section are all 4.1.2 anyway. So you would have to be on that firmware if you flash a custom rom.
A little bit of my history. I've flashed a lot of custom roms for this phone and I've always found that I always revert back to stock rom. It's the most stable and battery efficient. There's always a problem with some app which I use which doesn't work when I used a custom rom.
So I gave up and just stuck to stock rom.
Beamed from Jupiter on my Galaxy Note II
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Sounds like me!!!! Ive used odin a million times since 2010 haha. I got my first android coming from blackberry in 2010 then in dec 2010 I got the first galaxy s and thats when the flashing started but I kept going back to stock. Whats the best base or stock rom? Im currently on the oct germany stock rom.
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Which stock rom would be best?
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I have this device for about 2 weeks. Almost flashing everyday from custom to stock and vice versa. Now I am back at Stock Rom and just enjoying the device.

It's better to be in Stock ROM I think when you use a smartphone like Note 2. Stock ROM comes with proper functions that can utilize the hardware properly, specially that S Pen. It's just 7 day I have this device and I tried few ROM but back to stock now.

I rooted my phone with plans to use a custom rom, but after researching the different roms, though they add cool features, they always seem to break something else on your phone, and it seems like you have to spend a lot of time researching, downloading different fixes, just fiddling around with your phone. So I decided not to go that route and just wait for the official ATT updates.

hyelton said:
Which stock rom would be best?
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Where are two kinds of ROM for Note: one is based on AOSP (open sources) like CM10, and second – on Samsung sources (aka touchwiz or tw). First one is still a little buggy and don’t have proprietary software like exFat, S-Pen and so on.
ROM based on Samsung sources usually as stable as a stock rom and have all Samsung features.
Most popular are Android Revolution HD & Omega. Also a Hypernote is good, if you want clean installation and 280dpi for more screen real estate.
It is also worth looking at MIUI ROM – today it officially released for Note2 and (as I suggest) based on Samsung ROM.

I know what cm10 is and such I ran it on older phones I couldnt bare cm on the note though. I wad meaning which stock rom is better to use under the stock rom thread? Im on th4 germsny one
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I think the Stock rom is a fantastic rom.
I don't root or anything. This phone FLIES by itself, it also offers very good stability. I don't have any crashes whatsoever from the system itself. If it does crash, it's the APP. (ejem ejem... CHROME!) But I don't have issues with the stock ANYTHING. Great phone. I can get more than a full day of use, or 4-5 hours of screen time with regular usage (not downloading torrents or anything like that over 3G. I mean with regular usage, email, chat, FB, some pictures, browsing the web etc etc).

Yea im prob gonna run stock plus root and kernal. But whats the best stock rom to odin? What do you all use?
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What stock rom base is the best? I was thinking of using N7100XXALJ3_N7100OXXALJ4