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I'm about to buy an imported Galaxy Nexus...

will this version be different from the U.S. version (considering the U.S. will get the HSPA+ version) ? Also, are they're any other negatives since its a Europe version of the phone most likely.. like does it not update correctly over here or is modding the phone in the future different? thank you! I'm picking it up in the city tomorrow and just wanted to know first before using it on T-mobile 4G, the site im getting it from is mobile city online . com .. sorry im not allowed to post links on here yet

im using an imported one on tmo.. you will get 3g hspa plus just foine.. depending on coverage of course. also you will get updates as well. dont worry works 100 percent
more info look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363990

ok cool, and lets say when CM9 comes out.. will rooting my phone be done the same way whether its a usa version or not? i'm not trying to brick an $800 phone lol

mcguinness89 said:
ok cool, and lets say when CM9 comes out.. will rooting my phone be done the same way whether its a usa version or not? i'm not trying to brick an $800 phone lol
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There should be a 95% similar if not 100% similar rooting process
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My Imported Tmo phone works just fine on AT&T (just changed my APN settings is all)

You will be able to root it just fine. There's no way to tell now whether or not the US version will be different (or how) because it doesn't exist right now

mcguinness89 said:
ok cool, and lets say when CM9 comes out.. will rooting my phone be done the same way whether its a usa version or not? i'm not trying to brick an $800 phone lol
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$800?! Mine was $690 shipped from the UK...and it came 31 hours after I ordered it (no joke). Just order from Handtec.
Also, don't worry about "bricking" the phone. If you start messing with it, you will eventually brick it, no matter what phone it is. It's part of the learning process. I've had 13 Android devices (two of which were not originally running Android), and I've worked on a bunch more.....I'm not sure it's possible to TRULY brick an Android phone. I came close once, and it took a perfect storm of a bootlooping, non-charging phone, and a near-dead battery.

[Q] Canadian (Koodo) One V Compatible?

Firmware : 1.66.661.3
Baseband: 20.67.30.0831U_3831.15.00.28_M
I noticed my phone has an amazing amount of bloatware on it. I was wondering since I have the Canadian version if I'm able to flash any other roms? I see a lot are Europe/Asia and I imagine are not compatible. I had the galaxy ace before this and remember losing the ability to connect to Koodo (my provider) without the Canadian version of their baseband.
Also with unlocking bootloader/rooting/flashing CWM, are there any repercussions since I have the canadian HTC phone? (t320a)
Thanks all.

chevymeister said:
Firmware : 1.66.661.3
Baseband: 20.67.30.0831U_3831.15.00.28_M
I noticed my phone has an amazing amount of bloatware on it. I was wondering since I have the Canadian version if I'm able to flash any other roms? I see a lot are Europe/Asia and I imagine are not compatible. I had the galaxy ace before this and remember losing the ability to connect to Koodo (my provider) without the Canadian version of their baseband.
Also with unlocking bootloader/rooting/flashing CWM, are there any repercussions since I have the canadian HTC phone? (t320a)
Thanks all.
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as far as i know it must have no problems
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
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I have the Koodo phone, exact same firmware as you. I haven't had any problems with CWM, rooting, unlocking, flashing, etc.
You should be fine.

Alright, awesome! So most of these roms, even though the ruu is from eur/asia it won't change my baseband or anything? Gonna love getting rid of all this bloatware.

chevymeister said:
Firmware : 1.66.661.3
Baseband: 20.67.30.0831U_3831.15.00.28_M
I noticed my phone has an amazing amount of bloatware on it. I was wondering since I have the Canadian version if I'm able to flash any other roms? I see a lot are Europe/Asia and I imagine are not compatible. I had the galaxy ace before this and remember losing the ability to connect to Koodo (my provider) without the Canadian version of their baseband.
Also with unlocking bootloader/rooting/flashing CWM, are there any repercussions since I have the canadian HTC phone? (t320a)
Thanks all.
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What bloatware if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks man
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jmitr said:
What bloatware if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks man
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After rooting you can use titanium backup to uninstall "system" apps that are operator bloatware, or even manufacturer bloatware.
Edit 2: Arrgghhh stupid tapatalk, I meant this as an edit to my previous post, my apologies for the unintentional double post.
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jmitr said:
Edit:
After rooting you can use titanium backup to uninstall "system" apps that are operator bloatware, or even manufacturer bloatware.
Edit 2: Arrgghhh stupid tapatalk, I meant this as an edit to my previous post, my apologies for the unintentional double post.
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This is most likely the solution to my problem then. It just has stuff like Dropbox, Twitter and a bunch of other apps I'll never use and don't want on my phone. Lol. Plus I'd like to run Adfree and a few other root worthy programs

chevymeister said:
This is most likely the solution to my problem then. It just has stuff like Dropbox, Twitter and a bunch of other apps I'll never use and don't want on my phone. Lol. Plus I'd like to run Adfree and a few other root worthy programs
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Ah cool, I use dropbox, twitter etc.
Totally agree with root, TB, adfree to name a few are pretty much necessary!
I was hoping by bloatware you didn't mean at&t or verizon style bloat, in Canada most provides are not that bad with carrier bloat. Bell is the worst and their phones are stock compared to their American counterparts! Never had a Koodo phone, and I'm planning on unlocking it and using it on Telus, so I was curious about any carrier bloat (dropbox and twitter are HTC added programs).
One more thing, with the free 25gb of storage you get with the purchase of the One V, why don't you give dropbox a try? That's a sweet amount of free cloud storage to add to google drive.
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jmitr said:
Ah cool, I use dropbox, twitter etc.
Totally agree with root, TB, adfree to name a few are pretty much necessary!
I was hoping by bloatware you didn't mean at&t or verizon style bloat, in Canada most provides are not that bad with carrier bloat. Bell is the worst and their phones are stock compared to their American counterparts! Never had a Koodo phone, and I'm planning on unlocking it and using it on Telus, so I was curious about any carrier bloat (dropbox and twitter are HTC added programs).
One more thing, with the free 25gb of storage you get with the purchase of the One V, why don't you give dropbox a try? That's a sweet amount of free cloud storage to add to google drive.
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Just to help you out and potentially save you some money (if you unlock it through Koodo), but a locked Koodo phone will still be able to use a Telus SIM without any issues; at least, they used to last summer. I have no clue if the reverse is true, but I'd assume it would be.

I would never use that much space on my phone, I also have 4 tb of space on my home pc's. I'm not hurting.
Also to the prior post, I believe that's correct. Koodo is a subsidiary of telus so I don't see why it wouldn't work.

Does anyone have the RUU for the Koodo/Telus version or know where to get it?
Thanks in advance

Well if it's easy to do, I'm up for helping.

chevymeister said:
I would never use that much space on my phone, I also have 4 tb of space on my home pc's. I'm not hurting.
Also to the prior post, I believe that's correct. Koodo is a subsidiary of telus so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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No probs,
To TelusHTCHero as well, already knew telus / koodo were compatable as Koodo is a sub-brand of Telus running on the same network. The fact that it takes a full size sim unlike the rest of the One series is a cool selling point too, after unlocking ($14.99 btw) I can just drop the sim card in from my desire and away I go.
Telus wants to charge $289.99 no term / $189.99 2 year / $229.99 1 year. $175 Koodo no term plus $14.99 unlocking is a no brainer. I got my desire by pre-order August 2010, for the standard 3 year contract, so unless I wait another 8-12 months I will have to pay a penalty to cancel my current contract.
After buying a top of the line phone (Desire) and watching it become obsolete for all intents I will never again sign a three year term, technology moves too fast and I want my new toys sooner! The One V has a newer (though similar clocked) processor, better screen (I compared the two side by side), better camera, no storage issues like the desire, etc etc and cheaper than a Galaxy SIII on a 3 year term off contract? Sold, while waiting to see what the HTC "Two" series brings!
Cheers guys, hopefully I can join you soon as a One V owner.

You can't really compare it to an s3 though. It's only arm7 and the adreno 205.
I'm sure the s3 has a way better gpu and is an a9 cpu. That would explain the price difference. Realistically I only go with cost/performance phones and I only pay 30/month at koodo. The phone cost me 25 bucks for a great phone that has ICS. Surely a great replacement for my galaxy ace.

Hey quick question. If a ruu is uploaded here, do we need to use the WWE ones if we are from Canada? I noticed my software version is a little past the posted WWE versions.
I have no clue about compatibility or which ruu's to use so I'm a little scared attempting to tinker with my phone with no backup. Lol.

chevymeister said:
Hey quick question. If a ruu is uploaded here, do we need to use the WWE ones if we are from Canada? I noticed my software version is a little past the posted WWE versions.
I have no clue about compatibility or which ruu's to use so I'm a little scared attempting to tinker with my phone with no backup. Lol.
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The WWE will be compatible, once you root use clockwork to do a full ROM backup and your good to go.
The only thing RUUs are good for are " warranty backups" as flashing them will lose root and s-off etc. For this, a carrier RUU is best.
If you can return it for exchange at a store, a rooted backup works, most mobile store employees wouldn't know a rooted phone If it slapped them in the face!
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So I need to unlock bootloader, then cwm, backup.. and I'll still have stock with OTA updates? I guess that's all I need.

I beleive that as soon as you unlock, you loose the OTA updates. At least that's how it is with my transformer Prime. As far as getting the phone from Koodo to get on Telus network, I don't know why you would do that as they are physically the same network, just different as virtual networks. I'm on Koodo, periodically I look the other providers and still can't get a better deal for phone + data. There is always 6 gigs a month with Fido but you need to get 3 years contract with penalty, so ---
Anyway. Coming from the optimus one this is quite a good phone. I put the mocado rom + titanium kernel, excellent combination ! You just have to manually add your APN for Koodo and here you go.
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Mangala_Dharma said:
I beleive that as soon as you unlock, you loose the OTA updates. At least that's how it is with my transformer Prime. As far as getting the phone from Koodo to get on Telus network, I don't know why you would do that as they are physically the same network, just different as virtual networks. I'm on Koodo, periodically I look the other providers and still can't get a better deal for phone + data. There is always 6 gigs a month with Fido but you need to get 3 years contract with penalty, so ---
Anyway. Coming from the optimus one this is quite a good phone. I put the mocado rom + titanium kernel, excellent combination ! You just have to manually add your APN for Koodo and here you go.
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Nope, unlocking or rooting does not stop ota updates. Loading a custom ROM would, but then again flashing custom ROMs would negate the need for ota updates anyways.
As far as using a koodo phone on Telus. I have a great plan with them, 6gb data, north American calling, voicemail to text, lots of other extras. Lastly, I signed a three year contract for my Desire September 2010, still some time left. That's the attraction of the koodo One V, $175 plus hst = $196 plus $14.95 to unlock and use my current Telus sim.
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AFAIK Koodo won't sell you a phone at that price of 175 unless you are currently in a plan with them, unfortunately.
Also I've read you shouldn't flash OTA if you root/unlock bootloader for the chance you can brick your phone
Seeing as we in Canada are stuck with version 1.66 and the rest of the world is on 2.08 I think maybe I will switch to custom roms lol. I hope development really sparks here though.

Non-Windmobile Note ll. Please.

Hi
I don't know if I am asking in the right place but if someone knows the answer I would really appreciate it.
I found a good deal on a Note ll that would save me a lot of money, only thing is I'm with Windmobile/Canada (which uses 1700/2100 frequency/bands and AWS network similar to T-Mobile in the USA as some of you know) but the phone isn't (works with Rogers, Bell, Fido...).
Now, I'm just dying to know, is there ANYTHING I can do to make the phone work with Wind? I've read and read and read I can't find a definitive answer. Some people selling Note ll phones on Craigslist claim their phones work with any carrier including Wind or Mobilicity. But some people say no way in hell that's possible.
So, please, can someone give me an answer to my question? Yes or no?
Thanks.

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Electroman365 said:
Hi
I don't know if I am asking in the right place but if someone knows the answer I would really appreciate it.
I found a good deal on a Note ll that would save me a lot of money, only thing is I'm with Windmobile/Canada (which uses 1700/2100 frequency/bands and AWS network similar to T-Mobile in the USA as some of you know) but the phone isn't (works with Rogers, Bell, Fido...).
Now, I'm just dying to know, is there ANYTHING I can do to make the phone work with Wind? I've read and read and read I can't find a definitive answer. Some people selling Note ll phones on Craigslist claim their phones work with any carrier including Wind or Mobilicity. But some people say no way in hell that's possible.
So, please, can someone give me an answer to my question? Yes or no?
Thanks.
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Yes, it is possible. There is an unlock method before upgrading to 4.1.2. When the Note II came out with 4.1.1, there is a method used (go to the general forums to find more about this) without rooting the device.
If I were you, though, I would not trust online purchases of the Note II. Some people claim it stolen after you buy it so they get compensation for it if they have insurance for their phone.
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Caveat emptor. There are stolen devices out there, and fraudulent sellers.
With this disclaimer out of the way, your sellers with I317Ms claiming they'll work on Wind and Mobilicity have simply applied the mod outlined in this thread which you could do yourself.
If I were to buy another Note 2 via classifieds now, I'd pick a locked I317M (I'd avoid a locked BMA3 running T889V due to its modem-related bootloop issues), flash its initial release modem with Odin, unlock, update, and apply the AWS mod. (Granted I'm using Virgin Mobile, but having AWS could come in handy stateside with a T-Mobile prepaid SIM.)

Thanks kennyglass for moving my question to the right place. I wasn't sure where to ask because I'm not a frequent user of this site.
Thanks a million to Crinkypops and Darkshado for answering my question. I appreciate that. The good news is that now I know it is possible to make the phone work on an AWS network. The bad news is I have no clue how to do any of that stuff myself. I have zero experience or knowledge in this stuff, which means l'll probably have to get someone else with the necessary expertise to do this for me.....if l can find one.
Now a couple of things, if I get a new phone (factory unlocked) and it's already 4.1.2, would it be possible to change it to the older 4.1.1 ?
Is doing all the stuff you guys told me about involve rooting or whatever? I really don't want to mess up the phone with changing all kinds of things on it because I don't want to get stuck without a phone if something goes wrong and like I said I don't know anything about this stuff.
So, what if I buy a phone that was made to work with Wind or T-Mobile, would it be possible to modify it to make it work with other companies too? I really don't know why things have to be this complicated.

You have to start somewhere, it'll take a fair amount of reading, but it can be done.
Aside from their previous Nexus models, as of writing these lines, there's no such thing as a "factory unlocked" phone for Samsung Canada. All the SIM-unlocked devices you encounter were sold through carriers, and originally locked. Some sellers might also have grey market imports that were indeed never locked, but that's beyond the scope of this discussion, since we're interested in the North American variants of the Note 2.
You can downgrade the ROM back to 4.1.1 on all Canadian Note 2 variants, although I wouldn't try it on the T889V because it's been known to cause issues. Seems like there's a bug specific to this model.
You said you didn't want to be stuck without a phone if things went wrong, how about having a backup phone? The nice thing with two Android phones is that it's easy to keep their contacts and calendars synchronized.
The downgrade-to-unlock procedure can be done entirely using official (leaked) Samsung ROM images and tools, and does not require root. Done properly it will not trip the custom flash counter.
The AWS mod uses hidden factory built-in menus with leaked (QPST/QXDM) or reverse engineered tools (NV reader-writer / CDMA Workshop / EFS Pro). Again, it doesn't involve root and won't trip the flash counter. I317Ms that have had the AWS HSPA mod applied still work with their original carriers as before.

Thanks again, darkshadow.
Quick question. How do I know if the phone is I317M or BMA3 and running T889V ? Is l317M or BMA3 written on the back (once the cover is removed)?

Electroman365 said:
Thanks again, darkshadow.
Quick question. How do I know if the phone is I317M or BMA3 and running T889V ? Is l317M or BMA3 written on the back (once the cover is removed)?
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You can check it at the bottom of the box with the IMEI. I would advise you to actually go on the phone, though, and go to settings>about phone and then you'll see the IMEI, baseband, and model number in there. Make sure that the IMEI matches with the box. Some people steal phones and then just buy boxes so beware.
Good luck on your purchase!
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You can check it at the bottom of the box with the IMEI. I would advise you to actually go on the phone, though, and go to settings>about phone and then you'll see the IMEI, baseband, and model number in there. Make sure that the IMEI matches with the box. Some people steal phones and then just buy boxes so beware.
Good luck on your purchase!
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Thanks, crinkypops. I appreciate it and thanks for the info. If I buy a used phone I'll ask for the receipt and the box too.

Electroman365 said:
Thanks, crinkypops. I appreciate it and thanks for the info. If I buy a used phone I'll ask for the receipt and the box too.
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Just trying to help a fellow Canadian PM me how the purchase goes.
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Thanks again, crinkypops. I will. I first have to find out if the phone the guy can get me is an i317m and I'll go from there.

Well, looks like the only option I have is to buy a used Note II on CL. My "friend" who was going to hook me up with a new phone through a buddy of his is an unreliable scum bag of a "friend" and I'm not going to bother with him any more.
So now I'm looking on CL but I'm trying not to buy any phone unless the seller has the sales receipt to make sure I'm not buying something that's stolen.However, some sellers don't want to give the receipt -although willing to show it- because it has their personal information and my question is, would the receipt have the ID # (if that's what it's called) of the particular phone printed on it? If the phone is still under warranty, would it be possible to get it repaired (if there's a need) without a receipt?
Any other advice on how to avoid getting scammed buying a phone on CL?
Thanks.

Which city are you from? I am in vancouver and might consider selling if the price is right. I have the box and receipt. Phone is rooted running x14 with wind. Its still locked though.
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I don't know what the problem is. I tried to send private messages to vseslija and crinkypops but I don't think they went through.
vseslija, was your phone purchased from Wind?
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I'm a bit confused. Some guy is telling me I need to get the T889 and not the i317m if I want to use my phone with Wind, but from the answers here and from what I see on CL that can't be correct. Am I right? He says the i317m will be slow and unstable. Speed of T889 vs i317m : 42 mbps vs 21 mbps. Any thoughts?
Thanks.

Yup mine was purchased directly from wind.
That guy is bsing you
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Hmm, the guy isn't completely wrong, but he's not completely right either...
The (Canadian) T889V and I317M as well as the (US) T889 and I317 are all capable of 42 Mbps DC-HSPA. The 21 Mbps numbers you might have seen are due to AT&T's HSPA network not supporting dual channel operation, unlike most (all?) Canadian HSPA networks.
The T889 and T889V work on AWS HSPA carriers like Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron or T-Mobile USA out of the box. (The T889V won't work on LTE if you decide to switch back to Robellusfivirkoo, but that's another story, and there's also a way to enable that.)
The I317 and I317M won't, but are very easy to modify in order to enable the AWS HSPA you'll need. There have been a handful of reports of flaky connections on the AWS mod thread, but the ratio is so low that I'm lead to wonder if: there's an undocumented hardware revision for which the mod won't work, their phones or cellular networks had other issues, or if those trying to apply it did something wrong along the way.
I haven't checked Kijiji or CL for phones in a while, but I do recall the T889V commanding a slight premium over the I317M at one point because they were rarer.

Thanks again guys for replying. Man this has given me a lot of headache. Get a Wind Note and get it over with or get an i317m and mod it (have someone do it for me) to get it to work with AWS? I guess listening to what you guys had to say, plus asking a local cell phone shop is making me feel confident that it IS possible to get an i317m work on the AWS without any problems. Now, I think I'm going to take my chances and look for one on CL. In the worst case scenario if for some reason it gives me a headache I'm assuming I can have the process reversed (restore it to its original system) and I'll just sell it and get me a Note that was made specifically for Wind.
To those who helped me and answered my questions, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Just noticed the i317. So I guess there's an i317 and an i317m. Did some reading but the only difference I can see is that the "M" model is for the Canadian market. Am I right? Does an i317 work in Canada just fine?

The AT&T I317 should work just fine. But, (there's always one, isn't it?) its baseband has some "annoying" limitations (RAT lock is the term you'll want to search) that prevent you from toggling between network modes easily, i.e. you can't switch it between GSM only, WCDMA only, GSM/WCDMA/LTE like you can the Canadian model. Plus there are all the import related considerations you have to keep in mind (taxes and brokerage fees), plus buying something expensive sight-unseen.
The other differences are more benign and software-related. Nothing that can't be fixed with some ROM-flashing, like non-Robellusfivirkoo CSC settings.

Darkshado said:
The AT&T I317 should work just fine. But, (there's always one, isn't it?) its baseband has some "annoying" limitations (RAT lock is the term you'll want to search) that prevent you from toggling between network modes easily, i.e. you can't switch it between GSM only, WCDMA only, GSM/WCDMA/LTE like you can the Canadian model. Plus there are all the import related considerations you have to keep in mind (taxes and brokerage fees), plus buying something expensive sight-unseen.
The other differences are more benign and software-related. Nothing that can't be fixed with some ROM-flashing, like non-Robellusfivirkoo CSC settings.
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Thanks for the reply and the info. I just got an i317m. Finally.

Asked for an AT&T HTC One, got a Verizon one, should I ask for a return?

Well the phone works on Indian GSM network, but this is a Verizon HTC One. Can I still flash WWE HTC One ROMs or am I screwed in that department?
EDIT: To clarify, I met a seller selling imported unlocked US HTC Ones, and said he would send me an AT&T One, but I got a VZW One instead.

Really?

Dragooon123 said:
Well the phone works on Indian GSM network, but this is a Verizon HTC One. Can I still flash WWE HTC One ROMs or am I screwed in that department?
EDIT: To clarify, I met a seller selling imported unlocked US HTC Ones, and said he would send me an AT&T One, but I got a VZW One instead.
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well the vzw one definitely works fine on the indian gsm networks. if you want more options in terms of custom roms, yeah ask him for a return. it might be worth more hassle than it's worth though.

If you asked for an att phone then get what you want. Why settle for something you didn't ask for
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Dark Jedi said:
If you asked for an att phone then get what you want. Why settle for something you didn't ask for
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You can run ViperOne on any HTC One, so i wouldn't worry about it. Plus Philz CWM Touch is available for m7vzw, and some great custom kernels.
Of course, you did ask for something and got something else, so in all rights you could ask for the correct one you ordered. I love my m7vzw though.
Edit - btw, "unlocked" htc ones are not exactly hard to come by. You can unlock any HTC One with Rumrunner as long as you do it before updating firmware. Takes a couple minutes, and you do not need to really know anything except how to install correct drivers on your pc and read.

ccarr313 said:
You can run ViperOne on any HTC One, so i wouldn't worry about it. Plus Philz CWM Touch is available for m7vzw, and some great custom kernels.
Of course, you did ask for something and got something else, so in all rights you could ask for the correct one you ordered. I love my m7vzw though.
Edit - btw, "unlocked" htc ones are not exactly hard to come by. You can unlock any HTC One with Rumrunner as long as you do it before updating firmware. Takes a couple minutes, and you do not need to really know anything except how to install correct drivers on your pc and read.
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Thanks, I'm thinking of keeping it since sending it back and forth would probably take a couple of weeks. Currently running a debloated stock Verizon KitKat with ElementalX kernel and it's working really well (of course, s-off'd and unlocked). This wasn't hard to come by on eBay, but it was the cheapest from a reputed seller, so I bought it as an upgrade from my N4.
PS: I really need to remove the stupid "x attempts remain before your data is deleted" security feature, this will be a gold mine for my friends if they see this. Any ideas on how I can do this without changing ROMs?

Dragooon123 said:
Thanks, I'm thinking of keeping it since sending it back and forth would probably take a couple of weeks. Currently running a debloated stock Verizon KitKat with ElementalX kernel and it's working really well (of course, s-off'd and unlocked). This wasn't hard to come by on eBay, but it was the cheapest from a reputed seller, so I bought it as an upgrade from my N4.
PS: I really need to remove the stupid "x attempts remain before your data is deleted" security feature, this will be a gold mine for my friends if they see this. Any ideas on how I can do this without changing ROMs?
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It's an xml edit. I did it for my wife's phone a week or two back. Give me a few to dig it up.
Edit.....santods post on how to remote the 10 or wipe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50224199&postcount=92
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Just so you know, the Verizon One doesn't support 3G UMTS/HSPA+, as far as we know anyway, and is limited to a few 2G GSM bands. It's designed specifically for Verizon's CDMA + LTE network with a couple international bands thrown in for roaming purposes - not the best model to use all the time in another country. You really want the AT&T model for proper band support, unless you don't mind poor coverage in areas where your carrier uses other frequencies.

Yeah the one is capable of making global calls but not handling global data.
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Can the bootloader on an Unlocked att Note 4 be unlocked

Hi,
I know there is no way to unlock the bootloader on an att Note 4, but if ATT unlocks it would it become an International Version and can the bootloader be unlocked? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

Young fool.... only now do you realize the power of evil AT&T produces.
Now Rosachin, you will die.
(In all realness, no of course not. ATT ain't that nice nor will it ever be. You can unlock the phone in terms of cellular network but that's it.)

I cant believe I didnt come here before I bought 2 brand new at&t Note 4's Unlocked. What an idiot I am. Just never had a at&t and didnt think anything of it because everytime I have wanted to root and mod my previous phones, I never had a problem.. I never had at&t though.. uhhgg. maybe by the time I just cant stand the stock rom, they will unlock the bootloader? I dont know if that's how it works...
Oh well, sad man here.

BlindDude said:
I cant believe I didnt come here before I bought 2 brand new at&t Note 4's Unlocked. What an idiot I am. Just never had a at&t and didnt think anything of it because everytime I have wanted to root and mod my previous phones, I never had a problem.. I never had at&t though.. uhhgg. maybe by the time I just cant stand the stock rom, they will unlock the bootloader? I dont know if that's how it works...
Oh well, sad man here.
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Oh I feel you man. Note 4 was my first phone on ATT and I regret it. If I wanted to be locked down I would get a iphone. Still the note 4 is a great phone just with a lot of unused potential.

FLASHnox said:
Oh I feel you man. Note 4 was my first phone on ATT and I regret it. If I wanted to be locked down I would get a iphone. Still the note 4 is a great phone just with a lot of unused potential.
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Well, I just sent a return request for one of the note 4's. AND just bought a USED sm910T from ebay.
So, instead of me getting a brand new AT&T UNMODDABLE note 4, I will be getting a used but in great condition T-Mobile note 4.
And if I can get out of the restocking fees from the return, I will come out 50 bucks ahead. Cool.
The other new note 4 went to my daughter for xmas, and she already broke the screen. DOH!!
I lucked out this time I guess.
Cheers all.

BlindDude said:
I cant believe I didnt come here before I bought 2 brand new at&t Note 4's Unlocked. What an idiot I am. Just never had a at&t and didnt think anything of it because everytime I have wanted to root and mod my previous phones, I never had a problem.. I never had at&t though.. uhhgg. maybe by the time I just cant stand the stock rom, they will unlock the bootloader? I dont know if that's how it works...
Oh well, sad man here.
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Yeah man, I'ved used At&t for years. Some phones still ended up rooting and unlocked (Sky-Rocket, LG E970, and Note II) this is the 1st phone I purchased that couldn't be rooted to install ROMs and Mods. Very annoyed but glad to know after this experience we know not to buy from At&t directly. Either buy unlocked form Swappa, eBay or Amazon or know that you will be limited when you buy from carrier. In the mean time if you really want out, pay the bill so its clear for selling, and sell it online or in person. Also you can wait it out until the next upgrade.

PhonePhan said:
Yeah man, I'ved used At&t for years. Some phones still ended up rooting and unlocked (Sky-Rocket, LG E970, and Note II) this is the 1st phone I purchased that couldn't be rooted to install ROMs and Mods. Very annoyed but glad to know after this experience we know not to buy from At&t directly. Either buy unlocked form Swappa, eBay or Amazon or know that you will be limited when you buy from carrier. In the mean time if you really want out, pay the bill so its clear for selling, and sell it online or in person. Also you can wait it out until the next upgrade.
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Never again for me, not directly from AT&T & maybe not Samsung. [AT&T-Captivate, and VZ-Note2..rooted and other ROM'd but now ]. Question: what aspect of the hardware allows a carrier's specific bands of LTE to function? Or is it that the hardware is fully "plastic", capable of any LTE banding given the software[albeit locked] and SIM[mine unlocked] ? There are multiple Note4's. AT&Ts also runs UMTS and GSM. T's? Verizon's also runs its EV-DO. Perhaps these 2G, and 3G aspects become irrelevant and the 4G/LTE buildout completes, but the question remains over capability on carrier specific LTE bands.
With my SIM unlocked Note4 I used a VODA SIM this summer in Italy, but don't recall whether I had access to LTE , or evn which data mode functioned.

Ok, I hope I don't get in trouble for asking this here. . I tried to search but I'm not real good on this phone yet. . That's no excuse, I know. ..
Anyway, I received my T-Mobile Note 4 today and I want to root it right away as I am an owner of titanium backup and rom toolbox.
I am wondering if there is an easy way to root my device without installing a custom kernel AND not require a pc?
If I have to use a custom kernel, which one is the most stable?
My device specs are
SM-N910T3
Android 5.1.1
LMY47X.N910T3UVU1DOK2
KNOX 2.4.1
I have data turned off on my phone and disabled data from my carrier. I use WiFi and no data. .
Again I'm sorry for asking this but it's been a real long time since I have installed custom anything and my pc blue screens randomly so I'm afraid to try rooting my phone that way.
Please, step by step, easy tutorial or a link to where I need to go?
Thanks a bunch.
Blind

BlindDude said:
Ok, I hope I don't get in trouble for asking this here. . I tried to search but I'm not real good on this phone yet. . That's no excuse, I know. ..
Anyway, I received my T-Mobile Note 4 today and I want to root it right away as I am an owner of titanium backup and rom toolbox.
I am wondering if there is an easy way to root my device without installing a custom kernel AND not require a pc?
If I have to use a custom kernel, which one is the most stable?
My device specs are
SM-N910T3
Android 5.1.1
LMY47X.N910T3UVU1DOK2
KNOX 2.4.1
I have data turned off on my phone and disabled data from my carrier. I use WiFi and no data. .
Again I'm sorry for asking this but it's been a real long time since I have installed custom anything and my pc blue screens randomly so I'm afraid to try rooting my phone that way.
Please, step by step, easy tutorial or a link to where I need to go?
Thanks a bunch.
Blind
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I'd recommend asking on the T-mobile Note 4 forum. We all own the ATT model here.
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spexwood said:
I'd recommend asking on the T-mobile Note 4 forum. We all own the ATT model here.
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Yeah, oops. Sorry for that.. Please disregard...

Odischeese said:
Young fool.... only now do you realize the power of evil AT&T produces.
Now Rosachin, you will die.
(In all realness, no of course not. ATT ain't that nice nor will it ever be. You can unlock the phone in terms of cellular network but that's it.)
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The real reason carriers lock bootloaders (just remove the space after www and http)
http s://www .youtube.com/watch?v=gpVocvREboo&list=UURAxVOVt3sasdcxW343eg_A&app=desktop

[email protected] the space. Ironically....yeah i will remove the space so you can suffer clicking on the link on your phone...

Since we are on the subject of bootloaders. It's been a while since I flashed a custom rom on a phone. But from what I remember, isn't the bootloader these pictures that I attached? I took pictures on my AT&T Note 4.
Thanks

Yes i have read the whole thing.
Ok, to cut a long story short;
i bought a note 4 on an online australian shop for $470 (really hard without a job)
Anyway, they noted that their phones are from GENUINE Suppliers and i got a Note 4 UNLOCKED from, you guessed it. AT&T.
Now i wasnt too fussed. I was happy i got a note 4 that wasnt a chinese brick phone, since it technically was refurbished from their Hong Kong Warehouse. Anyways
After like...idk 2 months? approx? i decided i wanna root it. Guess what?! BOOTLOADER. WHAT THE ***T!!
Anyway, i spoke to some people, one said he hasnt rooted a phone passed gen 6. and the other person said 'no cant root. Bootloader is locked and no way to bypass.'
Soo im wondering if its possible to root the phone without removing bootloader? I dont restart my phone much and the whole bootloader doesnt worry me so im just curious if i can chuck a stock rom on without worrying about the bootloader.
Some background info:
I am Australian, therefore my phone is running under Australian networks (Boost, Lyca, Telstra, Optus, Vodafone, etc)
It is filled with unwanted, unnecessary AT&T bloatware.

esmereldakagaome101 said:
Ok, to cut a long story short;
i bought a note 4 on an online australian shop for $470 (really hard without a job)
Anyway, they noted that their phones are from GENUINE Suppliers and i got a Note 4 UNLOCKED from, you guessed it. AT&T.
Now i wasnt too fussed. I was happy i got a note 4 that wasnt a chinese brick phone, since it technically was refurbished from their Hong Kong Warehouse. Anyways
After like...idk 2 months? approx? i decided i wanna root it. Guess what?! BOOTLOADER. WHAT THE ***T!!
Anyway, i spoke to some people, one said he hasnt rooted a phone passed gen 6. and the other person said 'no cant root. Bootloader is locked and no way to bypass.'
Soo im wondering if its possible to root the phone without removing bootloader? I dont restart my phone much and the whole bootloader doesnt worry me so im just curious if i can chuck a stock rom on without worrying about the bootloader.
Some background info:
I am Australian, therefore my phone is running under Australian networks (Boost, Lyca, Telstra, Optus, Vodafone, etc)
It is filled with unwanted, unnecessary AT&T bloatware.
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No root or bootloader unlock yet or maybe ever....u can disable all the att stuff but not remove completely without root. At least it will cleanup ure app drawer a lil.

AT&T note 4 update?
I'm seeing the most recent updates being in 2016. Is there any new updates on the progress of unlocking bootloader for this device?

flgators197 said:
I'm seeing the most recent updates being in 2016. Is there any new updates on the progress of unlocking bootloader for this device?
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Still waiting for a miracle to happen

rosachin21k said:
Hi,
I know there is no way to unlock the bootloader on an att Note 4, but if ATT unlocks it would it become an International Version and can the bootloader be unlocked? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
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Ripping encrypted DVDs (or DVDs locked to a region) = unlocked
PlayStation 3 = reverse engineered
iPhone = jailbroken
Why isn't the AT&T Note4 unlocked yet? Would offering a bounty help? Is it impossible to unlock? Is it a matter of time? Is it a matter of throwing lots of computation power against the lock?
What will finally get the AT&T Note4 unlocked?

bbwarfield said:
Ripping encrypted DVDs (or DVDs locked to a region) = unlocked
PlayStation 3 = reverse engineered
iPhone = jailbroken
Why isn't the AT&T Note4 unlocked yet? Would offering a bounty help? Is it impossible to unlock? Is it a matter of time? Is it a matter of throwing lots of computation power against the lock?
What will finally get the AT&T Note4 unlocked?
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With that, the ATT Note 4 may very well be, the most secure mobile phone ever!

boofman said:
With that, the ATT Note 4 may very well be, the most secure mobile phone ever!
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Is there no bounty offered? If each ATT Note4 owner chips in a few dollars, we could raise a bounty of several hundred dollars. Then some tech-wiz can take much time trying to unlock the bootloader.
Anybody else willing to contribute to a bounty?