[Q] HTC DHD cant boot up - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Dear ALL Gurus,
I have encounter a problem with my DHD, i cant boot up my device. Whn i press the power button, the device will vibrate 3 times, and the light indicator was in orange color. :crying:
If i plug into power plug or USB (Connected to PC), it will automatically load into ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.7 (Ace Hack Kit). At recovery i cant do anything, only can press the +vol and -vol, when i press the power button to select any of the function such as reboot the system / backup and restore / factory reset / etc etc... I use a custom ROM (Slim Bean), sorry i cant give much information, because i cant remember my device information. I'm newbies... lucky able to root my DHD by following all the step posted here...
For your information, my volume button sometimes got problem, it auto press +vol, so i have press a -vol to neutralise the key problem, but sometimes it wont work. it is because my volume button? or because the software ?
I LOVE MY HTC DHD so much, this is my second htc DHD, my 1st got stolen, i still buy back the same model...:good:
Can someone guide me what to do??
Thanks for reading my post.

What happened to get the phone in that state?

bananagranola said:
What happened to get the phone in that state?
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my hp battery totally out, then i recharge my hp... then it happened.:crying:

cascloud said:
my hp battery totally out, then i recharge my hp... then it happened.:crying:
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Huh? What hp battery?

bananagranola said:
Huh? What hp battery?
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hp = handphone
my phone battery flat, i recharge it, then i cant open my DHD
i tried to reboot into hotboot, it cant....

What happens if you reboot holding power and volume-down? What does it say? And if I'm understanding you correctly, CWM isn't responding when you select any options using the power button?

bananagranola said:
What happens if you reboot holding power and volume-down? What does it say? And if I'm understanding you correctly, CWM isn't responding when you select any options using the power button?
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CWM was not responding when I select any of the option.
While I hold down the -vol and power button, DHD was vibrate 5 times with the led light was green blinking, a few more second it vibrate longer time 10 times, but led light was not blinking, but the screen was still blank.

cascloud said:
CWM was not responding when I select any of the option.
While I hold down the -vol and power button, DHD was vibrate 5 times with the led light was green blinking, a few more second it vibrate longer time 10 times, but led light was not blinking, but the screen was still blank.
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Try a different battery. If you did not flash a froyo ruu, then your battery might be messed up.

glevitan said:
Try a different battery. If you did not flash a froyo ruu, then your battery might be messed up.
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It that the possibility? My DHD is about 8 months old...
The battery is fully charge ...seem ok. But anyway, I will try it out

cascloud said:
It that the possibility? My DHD is about 8 months old...
The battery is fully charge ...seem ok. But anyway, I will try it out
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Maybe is flaw...you never know. I have seen couple of cases
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app

glevitan said:
Maybe is flaw...you never know. I have seen couple of cases
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
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Ok, noted I will get a battery to test it out.

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[Q] Desire won't turn on after market crashed

Hi there!
I have got a really strange problem with my desire. Here is what happened:
I opened the market app whilst using mobile internet. The app froze on the loading screen and the phone was unresponsive.
I pulled the battery and powered on again. All seemed fine.
I opened the market again and the exact same thing happened, only this time I can't turn the phone back on.
I have tried pulling the battery. Tried plugging the phone into a charger without the battery then reinserting the battery. Tried charging the battery until the led went green, still no luck.
I had plenty of battery when this happened.
When the phone is on charge, when you press the power button, the led goes out, but the phone does not turn on.
Does anyone know what this might be? or how I can turn my phone on again?
Thanks all!
Bump, does anybody have any idea?
The only idea I have is a hard factory reset:
Try to start phone with pressed volume down and power button, navigate with volume button to "clear storage" and enter with power button.
Swyped from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Wipe dalvilks cache in recovery
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks for the ideas guys. I actually can't power on the device at all. Can't boot into recovery, can't do anything as far as I can tell.
Any other ideas?
kirky_D said:
Tried plugging the phone into a charger without the battery then reinserting the battery.
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What the hell are you doing to ur desire?
Try removing battery for a minute, then re insert it
Then press volume down and without release it, press also power button and wait 5 seconds with both pressed to see if it boots into bootloader and go into recovery too
andQlimax said:
What the hell are you doing to ur desire?
Try removing battery for a minute, then re insert it
Then press volume down and without release it, press also power button and wait 5 seconds with both pressed to see if it boots into bootloader and go into recovery too
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I removed the charger before putting the battery in. I saw someone recommend it on another forum with a similar problem.
I have tried to get into recovery after leaving the battery out for 12 hours, after charging the phone until the led was green, it seems I've tried everything to get this to work but nothing.
I'm really annoyed as well because I'm 2 weeks out of warranty. It just seems so odd that a software crash could cause all this.
Anybody else got any ideas?
what happens when you press.. volume down and power.. can you see the hboot screen.. is your phone recognised in ur pc?
jhonybravo4u said:
what happens when you press.. volume down and power.. can you see the hboot screen.. is your phone recognised in ur pc?
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Absolutely nothing. Totally blank screen, no vibrate nothing. Phone is not recognised by pc. The only things that happen are the following:
When plugged into the charger the orange led comes on, and eventually turns green.
When plugged in, if I press the power button the led turns off, but nothing else happens.
I'm totally at a loss. I called HTC and am sending it in for warranty repair. They said they have extended the warranty to 2 years which is a bit of a turn up for the books, so hopefully they will fix it for free and not charge me for it
Try this:
Boot into hboot
Count (slowly) to 20
Then press the power button once
Connect the usb
Start command prompt
Type "fastboot devices"
For this to work you need to install Android SDK see here http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Install_the_Android_SDK
If you get anything than somebody can help you. I read somewhere about this issue but I can't find it anymore.

[Q] [HELP!] Phone won't turn on after pressing "power down" option

greetings to all XDA members
I could not turn on my phone after accidentally selecting the "power down" button in bootloader after pressing down power + volume down
What did i just do? How can i turn on my phone now??? HELP ME! T_T
Pressing the "Power down" option in HBOOT should not be a problem. I've done it a couple times on purpose.
Did you try a long press of the power button, maybe 1-2 seconds? Is the battery sufficiently charged? It will charge when powered down.
be4 i clicked power down, it was around 30% battery (maybe that's why) and since the power-down thing, even if i plug in to charge there is no orange/green light on the LED, is it still charging even without the orange LED lighting up?
dreamsky2288 said:
be4 i clicked power down, it was around 30% battery (maybe that's why) and since the power-down thing, even if i plug in to charge there is no orange/green light on the LED, is it still charging even without the orange LED lighting up?
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This is the same exact situation happened with my HTC One V.. But the difference is, my phone still has 58% battery.. I hope there is someone who could help us with our problem..
lucifernicus said:
This is the same exact situation happened with my HTC One V.. But the difference is, my phone still has 58% battery.. I hope there is someone who could help us with our problem..
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There is a known bug with one series. This is a Hard Brick, sorry its true. HTC agreed to fix mine and its being sent back 2morrow. however JTAG CANNOT Fix this issue. i have tryed MANY things and Nothing helped. it completly ****s the main board. Htc have said that this issue is being looked at and for me to NOT press and hold the volume buttons with the power button again, They have said it is a hardware problem not software problem. This issue cannot be resolved by a update only fixable with hardware change.
Please goto this thread for help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1729847
Dude, not again... Did you get QHSUSB_DLOAD? If you did. I'm sure it's a hard brick. It happened to me once. The only solution is phone replacement. Take your phone to your seller. You will get a replacement phone within 3 working days.
Source: own experience
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[Q] Please help.phone won't turn on

My phone won't turn on. When I plug it into the charger the notification light and the buttons on the bottom of the phone blink on and off.
I am rooted but not unlocked running the new 4.1 update that I was using fine for hours. If anyone knows what's going on please let me know, thank you
mendojester said:
My phone won't turn on. When I plug it into the charger the notification light and the buttons on the bottom of the phone blink on and off.
I am rooted but not unlocked running the new 4.1 update that I was using fine for hours. If anyone knows what's going on please let me know, thank you
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did you use kc_exactly's method to update?
javskies said:
did you use kc_exactly's method to update?
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Yea it worked and my phone was running fine for hours. Then I was running a benchmarking app, the phone shut off and now won't do anything but blink when I plug it into a charger.
mendojester said:
Yea it worked and my phone was running fine for hours. Then I was running a benchmarking app, the phone shut off and now won't do anything but blink when I plug it into a charger.
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when the phone is off try getting into recovery by holding the vol down with home captive button and power button to get into stock recovery. if it works re install the update.zip
javskies said:
when the phone is off try getting into recovery by holding the vol down with home captive button and power button to get into stock recovery. if it works re install the update.zip
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I held down the buttons and nothing happens, if I plug it into a computer the lights don't flash, I get the red light like its charging but if I try to turn it on or get into to recovery I get the lg screen then it goes off and the red light and captive buttons flash again. Is it soft bricked?
mendojester said:
I held down the buttons and nothing happens, if I plug it into a computer the lights don't flash, I get the red light like its charging but if I try to turn it on or get into to recovery I get the lg screen then it goes off and the red light and captive buttons flash again. Is it soft bricked?
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possibly. the only thing i can really suggest is to lgnpst back to v9 which wont work because you get stuck at the 4glte screen but with everything re installed you should be able to get into stock recovery to either reapply the update or wipe /data i believe to fix it. im not 100% sure this will work so its a little risky
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possibly. the only thing i can really suggest is to lgnpst back to v9 which wont work because you get stuck at the 4glte screen but with everything re installed you should be able to get into stock recovery to either reapply the update or wipe /data i believe to fix it. im not 100% sure this will work so its a little risky
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Where can I get lgnspt? I have been trying to find a link somewhere
pm'd
It seems I've run into the exact same problem. I was halfway through the update steps (hadn't even actually started the update itself) when my phone decided to just shut off (battery was fully charged and plugged in), and now it won't turn on. At best I can get it into fastboot, but can't go into recovery from there. If I plug it into a wall charger it just bootloops. Everything I've tried so far has led me nowhere.
mendojester said:
My phone won't turn on. When I plug it into the charger the notification light and the buttons on the bottom of the phone blink on and off.
I am rooted but not unlocked running the new 4.1 update that I was using fine for hours. If anyone knows what's going on please let me know, thank you
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If the lights are flashing it usually means the phone over heated. The only way I know to reset it is to do a battery pull. I've had to do it several times when using the overclock kernel.
javskies said:
possibly. the only thing i can really suggest is to lgnpst back to v9 which wont work because you get stuck at the 4glte screen but with everything re installed you should be able to get into stock recovery to either reapply the update or wipe /data i believe to fix it. im not 100% sure this will work so its a little risky
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This works perfectly. It's what I had to do. Make sure the phone is completely off, then hold vol down + power + home. When the capacitive buttons light up, release the buttons. It will bot into stock recovery, then do a factory reset. Wala!
This doesn't work for me at all, and I just used LGNPST to reflash v9. If I hold down those buttons, nothing happens. If it's plugged in and I hold them down, after 10-15s the charge light flashes fast (cap buttons don't light up). If I let go, the LG screen comes up for a few seconds and then the phone turns off.
You need to pull the battery. Afterwards itll boot fine
Btw its a known issue with this phone. Overheating causes it among other things
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jokersax11 said:
You need to pull the battery. Afterwards itll boot fine
Btw its a known issue with this phone. Overheating causes it among other things
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda app-developers app
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I do not have a problem but just to know for future-if I long press the power button that is equivalent to battery pull? Just asking to learn.
Thanks,
Doc
Docarut said:
I do not have a problem but just to know for future-if I long press the power button that is equivalent to battery pull? Just asking to learn.
Thanks,
Doc
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I wish it was that easy, but vol up + vol down while holding the power wont fix it when the lights are flashing like a siren.
You will need a small torx bit screwdriver, a philips screwdriver for the battery cable, and 2 pieces of tape to hold the buttons in place. A guitar pick also works good at seperating the case.
gearslam said:
I wish it was that easy, but vol up + vol down while holding the power wont fix it when the lights are flashing like a siren.
You will need a small torx bit screwdriver, a philips screwdriver for the battery cable, and 2 pieces of tape to hold the buttons in place. A guitar pick also works good at seperating the case.
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Thanks for the info!

[Q] HTC ONE V fails to start, please help.

My brother is using HTC ONE V for last 8 months. He got it rooted from his friend some 20 days back, was on stock rom. Yesterday suddenly phone got switched off in the afternoon. he tried to restart it, tried to soft reset- by holding power button. and tried to hard reset by holding power and volume down. but unfortunately phone didnt respond, he connected to a wall charger but no led notification light. now today evening, when he got back home, i also tried same things, but no luck. At last I attached it to my laptop via usb cable, and led notification light was back. I allowed it to charge it for some time and then tried to start it with power button. it worked. phone worked for about 20 mins, during that time it auto rebooted one time, but we thought problem was solved. we also did factory reset to make a new start, it worked fine..phone worked like new for an hour, battery was around 50% or so, and then.. went dead again..we just inserted micro sd card and sim..few minutes after that it went DEAD.. now even laptop isnt recognizing it. no led notification light or windows sound when connected to laptop.
Can anyone help? what has happened? Is it some battery problem??
thanks and regards,
K
any help...
hold power and volume down key button for 7-10 secs and try to install new custom rom
gulsher said:
hold power and volume down key button for 7-10 secs and try to install new custom rom
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phone doesnt boot up or go into recovery when i press this buttons.. nothing happens...
drketul said:
phone doesnt boot up or go into recovery when i press this buttons.. nothing happens...
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Hold power button for 6-8 sec.... When the screen turns black, quickly hold the power down button... U will be in bootloader.... And then flash recovery....
rohov said:
Hold power button for 6-8 sec.... When the screen turns black, quickly hold the power down button... U will be in bootloader.... And then flash recovery....
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nothing happens...phone is dead i guess..??
should i take it to service centre, i have no warranty here in india as it's imported piece..
drketul said:
nothing happens...phone is dead i guess..??
should i take it to service centre, i have no warranty here in india as it's imported piece..
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Send it in I did on my htc one x , no led or hard reset will fix most likely the motherboard went dead or battery im just guessing.
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PANIC - My HTC ONE doesn't switch on

Hi there, i just installed teaMseven-perfromance_v4.zip.. after all the operation.. and looks like gone well.. said that is failed.
Then i reboot system and now doesn't switch on.
The button down flash but nothing happen.. i try to hold on power on for 15 sec.. for 15 flash.. and nothing.. also with volume down.
What can i do.. there a way to hard reset or similar with terminal off?
Please help.. thanks for fast reply.
Stefano
stefanoferruggiara said:
Hi there, i just installed teaMseven-perfromance_v4.zip.. after all the operation.. and looks like gone well.. said that is failed.
Then i reboot system and now doesn't switch on.
The button down flash but nothing happen.. i try to hold on power on for 15 sec.. for 15 flash.. and nothing.. also with volume down.
What can i do.. there a way to hard reset or similar with terminal off?
Please help.. thanks for fast reply.
Stefano
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you can't get to fastboot? by holding power and volume down??
you should see the soft keys start blinking but don't let got yet!!
wait until your phone gets into fastboot.
let me know if that works.
andybones said:
you can't get to fastboot? by holding power and volume down??
you should see the soft keys start blinking but don't let got yet!!
wait until your phone gets into fastboot.
let me know if that works.
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Listen.. i don't know how.. i click on all button.. now is in clockmode.. Team Win Recovery Project.. what i have to do now
the fastboot .. using vol down .. and power.. doesnt' work.. i hold on power.. and the logo .. and the screen sometime go on after .. holding the power.. i touch the button.. htc logo and menu.. and .. i don't know but now i'm in the recovery menu
stefanoferruggiara said:
Listen.. i don't know how.. i click on all button.. now is in clockmode.. Team Win Recovery Project.. what i have to do now
the fastboot .. using vol down .. and power.. doesnt' work.. i hold on power.. and the logo .. and the screen sometime go on after .. holding the power.. i touch the button.. htc logo and menu.. and .. i don't know but now i'm in the recovery menu
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You listen,
YOU rooted your phone, NOT me, NOT anyone else.
This 100% your fault and
I just told you what to do.
turn phone on, where it gets to the HTC green logo,
hold power and volume down until it gets to fastboot. the screen that is white, DO NOT let go of power or volume until this happens.
If this doesn't work you are either not following my directions, or there is something wrong with your phone.
andybones said:
You listen,
YOU rooted your phone, NOT me, NOT anyone else.
This 100% your fault and
I was going to help you
but you're on your own now
best of luck :silly:
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Sorry my english is not so good... you can help me or you don't know how help me? this is the screeshot of my screen...
What i can do from here please?
stefanoferruggiara said:
Sorry my english is not so good... you can help me or you don't know how help me? this is the screeshot of my screen...
What i can do from here please?
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go into recovery WIPE fully, system, cache, dalvik cahche and data, then re-flash a ROM, or a nandroid.
problem solved.
andybones said:
go into recovery WIPE fully, system, cache, dalvik cahche and data, then re-flash a ROM, or a nandroid.
problem solved.
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Thanks.. listen.. you can suggest me the correct ROM (mine is Europa) where i can find it .. and how to push on the phone the rom?
andybones said:
You listen,
YOU rooted your phone, NOT me, NOT anyone else.
This 100% your fault and
I just told you what to do.
turn phone on, where it gets to the HTC green logo,
hold power and volume down until it gets to fastboot. the screen that is white, DO NOT let go of power or volume until this happens.
If this doesn't work you are either not following my directions, or there is something wrong with your phone.
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For information.. if i turn the phone on ... nothing happen! With soft click nothing .. with long click.. the soft button flash.. and nothing happen for many many time ... then i try test different why .. and what work is: POWER ON HOLD ON + MENU SOFT KEY HOLD ON for 7 second more or less.. alfter appear white screen with HTC green logo.. without take off my finger from the power i click on volume down.. and i enter in recovery.. now i'm here..
Maybe can be useful for other people...
stefanoferruggiara said:
For information.. if i turn the phone on ... nothing happen! With soft click nothing .. with long click.. the soft button flash.. and nothing happen for many many time ... then i try test different why .. and what work is: POWER ON HOLD ON + MENU SOFT KEY HOLD ON for 7 second more or less.. alfter appear white screen with HTC green logo.. without take off my finger from the power i click on volume down.. and i enter in recovery.. now i'm here..
Maybe can be useful for other people...
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the language barrier here isn't going to work..
this phone doesn't even have a menu button so how could you have help it for 7 seconds??
IT is KNOWN that to hold the power + volume to get to fastboot..
As I said, you hold power + volume down for a LONG time don't let go until in fastboot... could take up to 20 seconds..
then you get to recovery and flash your ROM, or backup..
nothing new was discovered here.
we just fixed your user error.
Personally if you can get into recovery (team win recovery project) or stock - try just doing a factory reset (wipe data and cache).
Also- you are in the wrong forum. This is the USA Verizon wireless HTC One forum. You should be in the international One forum.
Thirdly - it sounds like you really don't understand any of this so you need to do some reading on how the entire process works because if you end up having to wipe your system its going to get complicated
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk 4
andybones said:
the language barrier here isn't going to work..
this phone doesn't even have a menu button so how could you have help it for 7 seconds??
IT is KNOWN that to hold the power + volume to get to fastboot..
As I said, you hold power + volume down for a LONG time don't let go until in fastboot... could take up to 20 seconds..
then you get to recovery and flash your ROM, or backup..
nothing new was discovered here.
we just fixed your user error.
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OK.. i just do as you say.. it's enought 3 minute hold power and volume down?
Nothing .. the soft button flash and nothing happen..
stefanoferruggiara said:
OK.. i just do as you say.. it's enought 3 minute hold power and volume down?
Nothing .. the soft button flash and nothing happen..
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that is long enough.
if you can't get into fastboot by holding power and volume down, I am at a loss, sorry
wish I could be more helpful..
andybones said:
that is long enough.
if you can't get into fastboot by holding power and volume down, I am at a loss, sorry
wish I could be more helpful..
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Sorry but now.. i would say that.. i was in recovery one hour ago and you insist to say to me to do in your way and not mine.. when i told you the menu button i'm talking about the soft key on the right of the logo.. and this .. one ore ago work.. not .. power off .. power on and is the system is not stable.. go down.. i wasn't better that from the recovery you suggest me which rom i can push and i do??? Came one.. now ... it's worse than before cause now i'm not able to go in the recovery after follow your step..
Anyone can help me.. how to recover STOCK ROM with the HTC ONE switch off?
Like he said, if the phone is off, hold the volume button down and press the power button down and hold them down until you enter that white screen you took a picture of.
Is that still working for you?
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk 4
thepolishguy said:
Like he said, if the phone is off, hold the volume button down and press the power button down and hold them down until you enter that white screen you took a picture of.
Is that still working for you?
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk 4
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I am going to post saying "thank you".
Since XDA limits us.
thepolishguy said:
Like he said, if the phone is off, hold the volume button down and press the power button down and hold them down until you enter that white screen you took a picture of.
Is that still working for you?
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk 4
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Sorry cause maybe i sepack chinese... IIIII DOOOOOO ... DOESNT WOOOOORK ... I DO FOR MORE THAN 3 MINUTE!!!!
DOESN'T WORK!!!
But when i posted the first time.. work on my way.. and i need just to know how proceed.. now.. doing like that is completly off!!!
CLEAR?!!
stefanoferruggiara said:
Sorry cause maybe i sepack chinese... IIIII DOOOOOO ... DOESNT WOOOOORK ... I DO FOR MORE THAN 3 MINUTE!!!!
DOESN'T WORK!!!
But when i posted the first time.. work on my way.. and i need just to know how proceed.. now.. doing like that is completly off!!!
CLEAR?!!
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Why are you getting mad at the people trying to help you?
This is an English speaking forum.
I hope you get your phone working properly soon.
Take care.
andybones said:
Why are you getting mad at the people trying to help you?
This is an English speaking forum.
I hope you get your phone working properly soon.
Take care.
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Help is understand other problem not worse my situation and repeat 10 time the same things! Sorry.. try to understand..
If you plug the phone into the wall do you get a charging light? Or are you trying to do this while the phone is plugged in to a power source? Maybe you have killed your battery trying to fix it?
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk 4
stefanoferruggiara said:
Help is understand other problem not worse my situation and repeat 10 time the same things! Sorry.. try to understand..
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When people can't understand you, it isn't our fault..
I really hope you get your issue resolved soon, but I don't think I am the one who can help you with this issue. Take care and hope to see this thread with a happy ending.
thepolishguy said:
If you plug the phone into the wall do you get a charging light? Or are you trying to do this while the phone is plugged in to a power source? Maybe you have killed your battery trying to fix it?
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk 4
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Thank you for helping him.
I don't think he understands without you, he is on his own.

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