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hi, i have a WFS A510e marvel with S-On, rooted. every time i try to install a custom rom in recovery mode it says that install complete but then stucks on htc white screen and never moves forward. i mailny use to wipe data/reset then wipe cache partition and then wipe dalvik cache and then installing a custom rom.
Any one please guide me on this
Uh, try using superwipe, it may help. If it doesn't then it might be a problem with your rom.
Which rom are you trying to install?
perfectly done?
have you performed all steps properly ??
nandroid backup?
wipe cache
advance wipe dalvik cache !!!!
Try format system partition?
-create correct partitions
-wipe data,cache,dalvik cache twice
-install superwipe
-again,wipe all twice
-install your rom and wait max 10 minutes
If i helped you,click "Thank's" button.have a nice night.
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none of the above tricks work. its same a white screen still with HTC logo
Which ROM..?
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Post Reader said:
none of the above tricks work. its same a white screen still with HTC logo
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go to Hboot menu and do a Factory reset. (after flashing Custom Rom)
Got similiar problem, only EQDKP roms are working fine, tried cm7.2, 9 and Fresh Ice rom [which i want the most] and always stuck.
After installing the rom make cache wipe and dalvik cache wipe than reboot your phone... and for the first start you might have to wait around 10 to 15 minutes...
Kubulinka said:
Got similiar problem, only EQDKP roms are working fine, tried cm7.2, 9 and Fresh Ice rom [which i want the most] and always stuck.
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what do you mean by EQDKP Roms? please explain
Chaitanyapatel8880 said:
After installing the rom make cache wipe and dalvik cache wipe than reboot your phone... and for the first start you might have to wait around 10 to 15 minutes...
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i did that many times but of no help... thank you btw
Post Reader said:
what do you mean by EQDKP Roms? please explain
i did that many times but of no help... thank you btw
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797588 this is one of EQDKP roms. Try it and let me know if it works for you, too.
edit: do you have the black recovery screen issue? (i do)
kubulinka said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797588 this is one of eqdkp roms. Try it and let me know if it works for you, too.
Edit: Do you have the black recovery screen issue? (i do)
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yeah i have that black screen problem
Post Reader said:
yeah i have that black screen problem
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So i think we got another thing that needs a solution on this newly manufactured wildfires.
Kubulinka said:
So i think we got another thing that needs a solution on this newly manufactured wildfires.
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EQDKP Rom you listed above is working like charm but after i partitioned my card to ext4 it doesn't shows up in the storage.... flashed data2sd but not working for me anyhow
Post Reader said:
EQDKP Rom you listed above is working like charm but after i partitioned my card to ext4 it doesn't shows up in the storage.... flashed data2sd but not working for me anyhow
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Are you sure you did everything as in the instructions? First partition to ext4 + linux swap, then install rom, boot and install data2sd. It works for me.
Anyway, we NEED someone knowledgable to try to fix this problem.
yep, i tried each and everything listed there but the internal storage is now a problem for me
Post Reader said:
yep, i tried each and everything listed there but the internal storage is now a problem for me
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Liudvis987 told be, that i could be RUU version that is causing problems. Try updating it if you want different rom.
Kubulinka said:
Liudvis987 told be, that i could be RUU version that is causing problems. Try updating it if you want different rom.
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sorry dude i am a noob to android development, how to update RUU?
Post Reader said:
sorry dude i am a noob to android development, how to update RUU?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849680&highlight=ruu you should find installer somewhere there.
when trying to install a new rom i get the same error (status 7: some symlinks failed) with the cm10 and eclipse ROMs. I don't seem to have any trouble with Buglessbeast and euroskank. I have googled and searched XDA but none of the other threads are for the toroplus.
Edit: Thanks for all the help guys. I'm still having this problem.
Things i have tried: go into mounts and remove the top X on the list.(TWRP)
flashing a stock kernel gets me stuck in a boot loop.
I am using the franco kernel and had this same issue using CWM before switching to TWRP.
You can try this...
simms22 said:
try booting out of recovery into the bootloader, then back to recovery to reflash.
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If you do a Google search you should find some information on it. Its something with the Franco kernel changing the sdcard. Have to download And move the original back into it's correct place
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qbanlinxx said:
If you do a Google search you should find some information on it. Its something with the Franco kernel changing the sdcard. Have to download And move the original back into it's correct place
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Huh?
Op never even made mention to the word "kernel" in his post.
Not to mention kernel is not even running in recovery (which itself is a small os).
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natheist411 said:
when trying to install a new rom i get the same error (status 7: some symlinks failed) with the cm10 and eclipse ROMs. I don't seem to have any trouble with Buglessbeast and euroskank. I have googled and searched XDA but none of the other threads are for the toroplus.
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Are you using TWRP recovery? If you are that's the issue. The latest update has a flaw, you have to go into recovery, go into mounts and remove the top X on the list. They said they where working on releasing a correction for it. If your not on TWRP then I don't know what's going on.
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I was using cwm but switched to TWRP to retry. Same issue.
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natheist411 said:
I was using cwm but switched to TWRP to retry. Same issue.
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Try it when you get into recovery, go to mounts, remove the X on the top option on the list then flash the rom see if it works.
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I had this same issue yesterday, and it was related to flashing a kernel. Sorry for trying to help
bk201doesntexist said:
Huh?
Op never even made mention to the word "kernel" in his post.
Not to mention kernel is not even running in recovery (which itself is a small os).
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qbanlinxx said:
I had this same issue yesterday, and it was related to flashing a kernel. Sorry for trying to help
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I have also seen something similar. What most people don't realize is the some kernels, including Franco, change things in /system as well, which messes with some things.
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Okay, thanks. I was not aware of this. Will checkout some kernel zips to see what's going on.
edfunkycold said:
Try it when you get into recovery, go to mounts, remove the X on the top option on the list then flash the rom see if it works.
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I tried this. Still the same outcome. Thanks anyways.
Has this been fixed? I cant install any ROM!
I have exactly the same problem! I am using stock kernal, was using franco kernal before that.
Milamber said:
Has this been fixed? I cant install any ROM!
I have exactly the same problem! I am using stock kernal, was using franco kernal before that.
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no one here was help but i think i figured it out myself.
try this and see if it works.
when you go to install the rom, before doing so wipe data (factory reset) three times.
i was so frustrated about it i finally said **** it and didnt care if i lost everything, but i didnt loose anything so all is well.
let me know if that works
(status 7) some symlinks failed
I'm fixed this problem, PLEASE ADD THIS POST TO FAQ . Just install Android Commander and copy ROM to phone via it, now i'm on JellyBam android 4.1.2.
1.Install root+busybox.
2.Install via stock recovery siyah 5.0b2
3.In siyah recovery do factory reset
4.Flash any custom ROM
5.Do factory reset, wipe cache, wipe Dalvik cache.
6.Be happy, enjoy.
I'm tryied many recoveryes and kernels, but the problem is in copying process(now all zip's have good CRC, and MD5). . Give me a beer
JeyLo said:
(status 7) some symlinks failed
I'm fixed this problem, PLEASE ADD THIS POST TO FAQ . Just install Android Commander and copy ROM to phone via it, now i'm on JellyBam android 4.1.2.
1.Install root+busybox.
2.Install via stock recovery siyah 5.0b2
3.In siyah recovery do factory reset
4.Flash any custom ROM
5.Do factory reset, wipe cache, wipe Dalvik cache.
6.Be happy, enjoy.
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Huh? What is siyah 5.0b2???
I did a manual "format /system" from Clock Work Recovery, fixed it for me, Seems the Wipe/Factory reset does not reset the system partition correctly for some strange reason.
This was an issue after a custom kernel.
Milamber said:
Huh? What is siyah 5.0b2???
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He's on a different device.
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chrisjenx2001 said:
I did a manual "format /system" from Clock Work Recovery, fixed it for me, Seems the Wipe/Factory reset does not reset the system partition correctly for some strange reason.
This was an issue after a custom kernel.
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Wipe/Factory reset does not touch the system partition at all. This is normal. It only wipes the userdata partition.
chrisjenx2001 said:
I did a manual "format /system" from Clock Work Recovery, fixed it for me, Seems the Wipe/Factory reset does not reset the system partition correctly for some strange reason.
This was an issue after a custom kernel.
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Had a bad download and on initial install I formatted system however it failed. Went back and formatted system and cache manually and worked for me.
I'm not sure if this is related, but I read in the MMuzzy's Jelly Bean 4.2.1 thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762846, first post specifically) that unmounting /system fixes this problem, and sure enough it solved the problem for me when I tried to flash that ROM.
I change rom, in time to give the error gave Dalvik wipe sd-ext, I've tried many things but could not fix, you know something about it?
Thanks
Its a non issue....I believe it just means your not using your SD card to increase your dalvik cache therefore its impossible to clear it because you weren't using the feature in the first place
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Hutch89 said:
Its a non issue....I believe it just means your not using your SD card to increase your dalvik cache therefore its impossible to clear it because you weren't using the feature in the first place
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I 2nd that if I am not mistaken that is a feature that became obsolete with either Froyo or Gingerbread.
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How can I fix this? Already tried to recreate the ext Partition in recovery, but it does not work, please help me
I can not change rom with this error, I'm stuck in GB , help me!
Sywars said:
I can not change rom with this error, I'm stuck in GB , help me!
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Sywars said:
How can I fix this? Already tried to recreate the ext Partition in recovery, but it does not work, please help me
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Please don't double post.. There's an edit button.
As for your question:
How can you fix it if it isn't broken. Just ignore it. Its irrelevant.. This has absolutely nothing to do with being able or not able to flash ROMs. It's much more likely you've flashed the official ICS ROM, or bought it pre-installed which has locked your bootloader. Follow the unbrick guide for your model if that's the case.. However, if you're unfamiliar with ROMs, or even just this model of phone as it sounds, it's probably a good idea to post your current rom, and more details if this is the case before doing so.
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Sywars said:
I can not change rom with this error, I'm stuck in GB , help me!
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your error has nothing to do with the ext partition. I think your issue has a simple fix download the sd formater app for windows (google it) format your sd card using the default settings (do a backup first) and put your card back in your phone after you have restored your backup. You should be good to go. The format that LG uses on the stock sd card is incompatible with CWM.
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I changed my sd card, did the unbricking guide and I'm gb, however the error remains the same! what do I do?
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Sywars said:
I changed my sd card, did the unbricking guide and I'm gb, however the error remains the same! what do I do?
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Did you reformat your card like I suggested?
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Swetnes said:
Did you reformat your card like I suggested?
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Hello again, I downloaded the program and SDFormatter formatted my sd card, however still the same error, unknown volume for path [sd-ext]
Sywars said:
Hello again, I downloaded the program and SDFormatter formatted my sd card, however still the same error, unknown volume for path [sd-ext]
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As has already been mentioned, the Nitro/SU640 etc doesn't use sd-ext for its dalvik cache. As it's not used, you are going to get an error because your recovery is trying to wipe a path that doesn't exist. There is no need for it to exist in the first place, so the error really isn't anything to be worried about.
You say you cannot change ROMs with the sd-ext error... what exactly does it tell you when you try to flash a different ROM without trying to wipe dalvik?
When you change rom wipe dalvik without making the rom works with some problems, I have done tests but always gets something without working
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Sywars said:
When you change rom wipe dalvik without making the rom works with some problems, I have done tests but always gets something without working
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What things aren't working? Just about all the ROMs have things that aren't 100% working correctly, random reboots (no matter how infrequent) etc. Are you sure you aren't mistaking the already existing bugs in each ROM for an error related to wiping dalvik? Just trying to cover all possibilities because dalvik is, if I'm not mistaken, on the system partition and gets wiped when performing a system wipe.
I just ask because I never even wipe dalvik...
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What things aren't working? Just about all the ROMs have things that aren't 100% working correctly, random reboots (no matter how infrequent) etc. Are you sure you aren't mistaking the already existing bugs in each ROM for an error related to wiping dalvik? Just trying to cover all possibilities because dalvik is, if I'm not mistaken, on the system partition and gets wiped when performing a system wipe.
I just ask because I never even wipe dalvik...
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an example of a simple mistake was that I downloaded the rom jellybam, when I put the phone to charge with the power off, the battery percentage is not only a spot appears.
Sywars said:
an example of a simple mistake was that I downloaded the rom jellybam, when I put the phone to charge with the power off, the battery percentage is not only a spot appears.
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Do all ROMs now do that or is it just JellyBam?
E : unknown volume for path [/sd - ext]
im trying to install beats on my phone samsung galaxy note GT-N7000, i installed this from recovery JellyBeanBeatsAudio5.zip. but then my phone has no sounds at all, i already volmue up my phone but still no sound, please help me ;'(, i've tried ti wipe dalvik cache, but then i it says errors, E : unknown volume for path [/sd - ext] what does that mean?
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im trying to install beats on my phone samsung galaxy note GT-N7000, i installed this from recovery JellyBeanBeatsAudio5.zip. but then my phone has no sounds at all, i already volmue up my phone but still no sound, please help me ;'(, i've tried ti wipe dalvik cache, but then i it says errors, E : unknown volume for path [/sd - ext] what does that mean?
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This is an LG NITRO forum so you might check on the Galaxy Note forum but on the Nitro you will have to reformat your SD card on a computer using the SD formater app for windows google it.
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Ok guys, these are modded versions of TDJ's tools to add the preload partition. This should allow you to wipe cache and dalvik without jacking up the symlinks. Also for you guys having issues installing a ROM, the superwipe should fix that. First flash the ROM and reboot (important), then if you are having issues flash the super wipe and then the ROM again. Reboot and you should be good.
Thanks again TDJ!!! You rock bro.
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thx for this, i was annoyed by the preload problem.
Is this for CWM recovery or TWRP as well?
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Will work for both.
Thanks Jamison this will solve alot of headaches!
So whenever we want to wipe cache/dalvik use zip file instead of built in twrp??
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euklid said:
So whenever we want to wipe cache/dalvik use zip file instead of built in twrp??
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If on a TMo based 4.1.2 ROM, yes.
Whats the difference between the two downloads?
inpherknow said:
Whats the difference between the two downloads?
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One is cache/dalvik, superwipe is data/factory reset.
Well before using the scripts ROM would not boot but after super wipe no problems, TWRP 2.5.0.0 :thumbup:
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Jamison-does the cache wipe also fix permissions?
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Yes it does.
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I used these scripts installing a ROM and I am having very serious issues. I was using Clockwork and when I rebooted I got stuck in a boot loop. I booted back into recovery but I was not getting fully back into recovery. I tried several times. I finally ODINed back to stock but I can't get the ****ing phone to boot up. It gets toa popup that says ""unfortunatley google partner setup has stopped" and then if I clear that "Google account manager has stopped", "google calender storage has stopped""unfortuantely the process com. android.phone has stopped". ****. I have tried ODIN to 3.5 stock and 4.0.3 both having similar issues.
Anyone have any idea, may have absolutley nothing to do with these scripts but any ideas would be very much appreciated.
What are you running and what are you trying to flash? Wouldn't be the scripts as they only wipe, format, align the partitions.
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Jamison904 said:
What are you running and what are you trying to flash? Wouldn't be the scripts as they only wipe, format, align the partitions.
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I was running CWM 6.0.2.9 touch and trying to flash the StockWalk ROM. I don't know if you have seen something like this before but it seems like I am totally unable to install any GAPPS even when flashing stock ROM in ODIN. I had flashed the same ROM before attempting to use the scripts, the reason was that I was unable to add my google account (may be a defect in the ROM but others are saying they have not had issue).
*when I say install GAPPS I am just refering to the ones that install on TW ROMS, I am not flashing a GAPPS file of any kind
ArcticFish said:
thx for this, i was annoyed by the preload problem.
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If on a TMo based 4.1.2 ROM, yes.
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OK so I thought I knew enough to not feel like a noob, but here I am with three questions.
First question is what is a "preload problem"?
Second question is this will only work on 4.1.2, and not 4.2.2 (CM 10.1)?
And the third question is will using the original DS wipes mess something up?
T mobiles 4.1.2 loads a preboot partition. Wiping cache with anything but these scripts also wipes these partitions. This script is modified to not do that. No preboot partition = boot loop.
Thus, if you're on anything BUT Tmobiles 4.1.2 you don't need this script and there's no advantage to using it.
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Any time I try to flash a rom or anything I keep getting this message: E:/error opening '/data/lost+found'
I've tried flashing different roms but it hasn't helped.
I'm having this weird problem where when I flash a new rom about 20 random apps are transferred over to the new rom. (like random games and apps)
Also every time I uninstall any app I get "cannot read data/xposed/modules.whitelist"
The app still uninstalls but this just concerns me.
Could anyone help me out? I just want to do a fresh install of liquid smooth.
Rayz321 said:
Any time I try to flash a rom or anything I keep getting this message: E:/error opening '/data/lost+found'
I've tried flashing different roms but it hasn't helped.
I'm having this weird problem where when I flash a new rom about 20 random apps are transferred over to the new rom. (like random games and apps)
Also every time I uninstall any app I get "cannot read data/xposed/modules.whitelist"
The app still uninstalls but this just concerns me.
Could anyone help me out? I just want to do a fresh install of liquid smooth.
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I found this in the Nexus 4 forum-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147501. Sounds like the same issue.
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I found this in the Nexus 4 forum-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147501. Sounds like the same issue.
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When I searched around with this issue I did find that and tried to follow those steps but even after trying it a few times I'm still having the same problem.
Rayz321 said:
When I searched around with this issue I did find that and tried to follow those steps but even after trying it a few times I'm still having the same problem.
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Are you wiping data?
joeyhdownsouth said:
Are you wiping data?
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Yes and I'm on Team Win 2.5
Does anyone think they can help me out?
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Does anyone think they can help me out?
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Wipe everything, data, system, cache and dalvik
Then try reflashing your rom
Ok have you installed any app to sd type of application? It sounds like your internal storage is being read as external and visa versa.
Also i know there's lots of support for twrp but I swear by cwm when it comes to the GS3. I use twrp on my Nexus and that's fine but on the S3 cwm has always worked better in my opinion.
What roms are you trying to flash? They are sprint s3 roms right from this section?
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Wipe everything, data, system, cache and dalvik
Then try reflashing your rom
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I've done that. That's what the one post suggested.
I just don't understand why I'm still getting apps showing up when I install new roms.
What about wiping storage? I know you don't want to lose anything but it sounds like something in your storage causing this.
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I've done that. That's what the one post suggested.
I just don't understand why I'm still getting apps showing up when I install new roms.
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Please see my post right above this one I quoted here. Let us know a few of those things and maybe we can get you going in the right direction.
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Ok have you installed any app to sd type of application? It sounds like your internal storage is being read as external and visa versa.
Also i know there's lots of support for twrp but I swear by cwm when it comes to the GS3. I use twrp on my Nexus and that's fine but on the S3 cwm has always worked better in my opinion.
What roms are you trying to flash? They are sprint s3 roms right from this section?
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I haven't installed any app to sd type applications.
I do think part of the internal is being used as external but I thought that's just how it was.
I only have roms, nandroids, and titanium backups on my sd card.
I installed twrp because when I first started it seemed like that was what most people were recommending but it doesn't matter to me. I might switch.
Also I've been switching between cleanbean and liquid smooth, both from this section.
The main thing that bugs me is when uninstalling apps says "cannot read data/xposed/modules.whitelist"
The app still uninstalls but it just doesn't seem good.
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I haven't installed any app to sd type applications.
I do think part of the internal is being used as external but I thought that's just how it was.
I only have roms, nandroids, and titanium backups on my sd card.
I installed twrp because when I first started it seemed like that was what most people were recommending but it doesn't matter to me. I might switch.
Also I've been switching between cleanbean and liquid smooth, both from this section.
The main thing that bugs me is when uninstalling apps says "cannot read data/xposed/modules.whitelist"
The app still uninstalls but it just doesn't seem good.
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A couple weeks ago, I was switching from a AOSP ROM to a TW ROM and I got the same error. Thinking it was TWRP, I hooked my phone up to my computer and flashed CWM. I then tried to flash the ROM in CWM and it was a no go. I still got the same error. I just decided to transfer all my data from my internal sd to my computer. I used Odin to flash the stock tar file. After that, I used QBKing77's method to root from recovery. Then I flashed my ROM and I got 0 errors. So all I had to do was start fresh haha. It took a bit of time because I was taking many precautions (as should you) Good luck!
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Yes just as posted above, but before going the route of Odin back to stock. Copy all your files (important) from internal and external to your computer. Then boot into recovery no need to change now and reformat your internal and external storage, wipe cache and dalvik and fix permissions and reboot. Then download a fresh zip of a rom to flash and test it. If it all works then go through your files and move back what you need. I'm pretty sure you have a bunch of O folders in your internal.
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