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HI,
I'm new to this forum and new to the phone, I've ordered mine.
Although I'm fairly tech savvy, I am a web developer, middle level technically proficient in VBA and so forth...
I ordered and decided on this phone because of the PDA, Organiser, pocket pc and of course the phone.. basically all that is advertised.
But i'm beginning to have serious and grave concerns.. can people of this forum enlighten me..
The importtant feature of this phone for me beside being a phone is:
1. can it competentnly and reliabley syn with outlook
2. is there any issues with Excel as I will be using quite a bit of this on the road...
I won't have time or inclination to mess wtih the code or add new stuff. as i need this phone for mission critical business needs and hence can't have it bneing unrealible...
i hope i havne't made the wrong decision to embrace technology (although I know some of the more complidcated features or nifty features may have isssues)....
is this phone worth while and does what it says it does? or have i wasted a lot money
It synchs brilliantly with Outlook (I'm synching at home with Outlook 2003 and at work with Outlook XP\Exchange), way better than any other smartphone - mainly symbian - that I've ever used.
The Excel is good (if not brilliant). It works as advertised. Whether it will be suitable for you depends on what you want to use it for. It doesn't contain all the functions of the full excel, though it always surprises me just how many of the more obscure functions it does contain (PMT is the most important function I use, and is included). However, if you are looking to use Excel for graphs and charts etc, then you are going to be disappointed.
Anyway, if you've ordered it, you usually get a 14 day cooling off period during which you can return for a full refund.
Excel isn't bad, but if you're working on advanced spreadsheets then you should definitely look at PlanMaker from Softmaker.de. This is a simply stunning package that is what Excel should be...
Cheers,
nick.
thanks for the review.. one other thing.. noise when hangs u
i've heard from other users that there is a notceable and unpleasant tone when it hangs up..
man.. the amount of issues that is raised, itrs so bloody scary, can this phone still be used as a phone?
some have raised issues of not receiving even a call or an sms...
this wholly defeatst he purpose of this device entirely!!
can people comment? under what circumstances does it not work, are many people messing with the phone with installing new software or what?
Well I am a heavy user of my XDAII. I use it for txt, voice call, excell, powerpoint, word, acrobat, games, and too much of the Windows Media.
I compressed the Video Karaoke VCD's or DVD's to my SD. I always sync with avantgo. I use Internet Explorer to view or approve transactions in our Office Linux Web based ERP solution wirelessly via bluetooth.
I still recieve my messages and calls so don't worry. But remeber, be a smart user. Since this is a Windows platform, you have to Soft Reset after openning a lot of applications or install the Omega One Battery Pack Software to end unwanted or running applications so that you do not have to perform a soft reset.
I hanged up 2x in my early experience with this device because I used up most of the internal memory. I learned my lesson now that all apps must be installed in the external memory.
I always made sure that I have 60 mb free of internal memory so that it will not hang anymore. This 60 mb free serves as the working memory of my running programs or apps.
Hope this info will be useful to you.
we're sending ours back - it is no good as a phone, and crashes too often
padgett said:
we're sending ours back - it is no good as a phone, and crashes too often
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I have 2 XDAII, 1 for me and 1 for my wife. We are both heavy users and so far no problems.
Are we just lucky or what?
Another thing if you only want a phone then this device is not for you. The XDA is an overkill if you only intend to use it as a phone.
For me I treat my XDA more as a Portable Personal Computer (Pocket PC) that happens to have a cellular phone capability.
Additional comments. If you are a comfortable user of Windows 98, ME, 2000, and XP and understand the Operating System very much, then the XDAs is for you.
If you hate Windows and prefer Linux or Mac OS then you better use Palm Treo, Sony Ericcson P900 or 910i., or other Symbian OS.
Windows Mobile based Smartphones or PDA phones to me are for advance users who understand the system very much. Otherwise you will keep on complaining that it is hanging, crashing, slowing down, etc.
My wife also give me these problems before so I have to teach or train her how to understand the Windows System. Now she is on the advance type of user and does not give me headaches anymore.
Personally I have tried the Nokias, the Sony Ericssons, and the Treos. I was never satisfied by those devices as the applications were limited based on my usage and other interface in the office. I have to use 3rd party solutions just to make them work. Some of them specially the Nokias simply won't work.
In fact I work with Sharp and our Linux based PDA takes a lot of tweaking to work with our system and it has no GSM phone capability. So Sharp decided to switch to Windows platform so that Zaurus will sell.
Personally I will not exchange my XDA II or any Windows Platform PDAphones to other devices.
My XDAII easily integrated with our system without any 3rd party solutions. Remember we are using Linux in the office and the XDA II is connected to the system via bluetooth.
I have to agree with rayt, there are enough people around (myself included) who are using these devices day in day out without any problems (other than the occasional, well documented, bluetooth glitch) to show that the device is fine.
I really do struggle to understand the mentality of some of the people on this forum who have spent weeks and weeks complaining about how awful their devices are.
All they have to do is perform a hard reset and use the device for a couple of days in a clean state. If it doesn't crash anymore, then the problem was third party software or how it was set up. If the problem persists, it's a faulty unit and should be returned for a replacement. It's that simple. It's almost as if they enjoy being a victim!
Bassey said:
I have to agree with rayt, there are enough people around (myself included) who are using these devices day in day out without any problems (other than the occasional, well documented, bluetooth glitch) to show that the device is fine.
I really do struggle to understand the mentality of some of the people on this forum who have spent weeks and weeks complaining about how awful their devices are.
All they have to do is perform a hard reset and use the device for a couple of days in a clean state. If it doesn't crash anymore, then the problem was third party software or how it was set up. If the problem persists, it's a faulty unit and should be returned for a replacement. It's that simple. It's almost as if they enjoy being a victim!
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Thank you! If your bluetooth glitch is hotsync or internet pass through, I made a solution for this. Go to this link at, http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13387&highlight=.
I made a detailed instruction for the bluetooth. In fact my XDA is a virgin, meaning the OS is a factory original with 1.66.00WWE.
I dropped my XDA on the concrete floor 5 times already by accident so far no hang-ups except for external housing scratches.
rayt said:
padgett said:
we're sending ours back - it is no good as a phone, and crashes too often
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I have 2 XDAII, 1 for me and 1 for my wife. We are both heavy users and so far no problems.
Are we just lucky or what?
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hey mate.....i dont think you are the only lucky one....most of the guys who have xda II are lucky i guess...and i am a heavy user of xda II as well i use alll the softwares on xda II and plus additional installled and many games installlled tooo....but i haven't faced any problem as yet with my xda II whether flashing the rom or crashing or something (TOUCH WOOD) so i guess you dont need to be afraid....IT DOES WAT IT SAYS.... !! and by the way.....i get heavy calls everyday and msgin is like freaked out tooo so no worries IF YOU HAVE AROUND MORE THEN 50% OF MEMORY FREE IN YOUR XDA II for it to run properly... !!
regards
jeetz
any more tips and tricks welcome! feeling better now!
Yes, thanks oh so much for all your comments and tips and tricks,
I'd appreciate anyone posting to give some advice on how to use this,
so as i understand, install only programs on external memory,
keep it clean, don't mess about too often and use soft reset or download a software as one suggested....
I was beginning to feel very worried, that htis is some large rip off given its a huge pie in the sky ask for a company to put together what everybody is now thinking.. convering pda, phone, pc.... i know they are trying to break grounds, but heck, the stories we here on this forum,
its like its a unmerchanable product.. and a class lawsuit should be preppared....
keep the tips going
if you know how to use desktop windows xp then you should automatically know how to use the xda II and as far as keeping it clean is concerned if you wanna really keep it clean then you should buy a sd or mmc memory chip and install your programs on that so that your pda remains with full memory and does not get slowed down and stuff....
regards
jeetz
Re: any more tips and tricks welcome! feeling better now!
ticc888 said:
Yes, thanks oh so much for all your comments and tips and tricks,
I'd appreciate anyone posting to give some advice on how to use this,
so as i understand, install only programs on external memory,
keep it clean, don't mess about too often and use soft reset or download a software as one suggested....
I was beginning to feel very worried, that htis is some large rip off given its a huge pie in the sky ask for a company to put together what everybody is now thinking.. convering pda, phone, pc.... i know they are trying to break grounds, but heck, the stories we here on this forum,
its like its a unmerchanable product.. and a class lawsuit should be preppared....
keep the tips going
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It is not an unmerchanable product! And a lawsuit must not be abused and unnecessary.
I have to remind that the product is not for everybody and I have to repeat again that it is intended for advanced users, Techie, or IT literate people.
You said that you were a web developer and in VBA. Now I want to ask you a question, can you name any Phone other than Windows powered that can run your VBA scripts? If there are any I will be glad to try them again.
I am not a loyal Microsoft User or Developer as I am also into Unix, Linux, and Mac OS. It only happened that my XDA solved my problems in the office without any 3rd party applications or tweaking.
I think this discussion is going somewhere else like what the EU government is doing to Windows. They sued MS because of the many funtionality and usefullness of windows like the antitrust case in the US.
Now tell me are you willing to buy the Windows Reduced Media Functionality because of what the government said so or are you willing to stand or go for a System that is complete and inovative at athe same price?
If you don't like it return it and don't insist on it. Buy another PDAPHONE device with a different platform like Symbian, Linux, or Palm OS and try your applications. Only then you will know that the Windows Platform is the right choice and is not a ripoff.
I sold my Nokias, Sony Ericcsons, and Treos as they did not work or fit for our systems in and outside the office.
The last 3 phones can't even perform my Hobbies done in VBA. These hobbies are satellite tracking, planet tracking, astronomy, and anything related to the solar system. These hobies run on my XDAs and my XDA tells me the weather conditin 5 days in advance.
Hello All,
I am a regular visitor of the XDA and found it the most resourceful website on the planet. It gives me a sense that I have come to my people place.
After browsing on to various posts and topics I felt that I should also do something for this community and decided to create file sharing website where most powerful brains (XDA members) can put there hard work and share with the world without any difficulty as I have seen many of you people uses (4shared.com, rapidshare, megaupload, etc) but they all not so easy place to download the files. I want to give you people a beautiful place to upload and download files.
I firmly believe that we can grow high with each others support and can always take a further step even in those directions for which people says "Its Blocked".
I want that this place (XDA should be called as one stop mobile solution place) because where peoples thought ends we start working from that place.
But I want to know that do you people really require this service, because only after that I will be able to work upon it.
Please give my your feedback.
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Hello All,
I am a regular visitor of the XDA and found it the most resourceful website on the planet. It gives me a sense that I have come to my people place.
After browsing on to various posts and topics I felt that I should also do something for this community and decided to create file sharing website where most powerful brains (XDA members) can put there hard work and share with the world without any difficulty as I have seen many of you people uses (4shared.com, rapidshare, megaupload, etc) but they all not so easy place to download the files. I want to give you people a beautiful place to upload and download files.
I firmly believe that we can grow high with each others support and can always take a further step even in those directions for which people says "Its Blocked".
I want that this place (XDA should be called as one stop mobile solution place) because where peoples thought ends we start working from that place.
But I want to know that do you people really require this service, because only after that I will be able to work upon it.
Please give my your feedback.
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Many people have tried this before, but the bandwidth needed usually puts paid to them, as cost of running is HUGE. One month, I used 3TB bandwidth just for one ROM. If our team has 5 ROMs just now, that could be a lot of bandwidth (not necessarily 15 TB, but lots)... Multiply that by number of devs, you could have issues with finding a data center...
And storage space. Each ROM for android is 100 to 200 MB, multiplied by all the devs, that would be a hell of a lot of storage space... And where would you back it up to?
It would be a mammoth task... Just saying
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Many people have tried this before, but the bandwidth needed usually puts paid to them, as cost of running is HUGE. One month, I used 3TB bandwidth just for one ROM. If our team has 5 ROMs just now, that could be a lot of bandwidth (not necessarily 15 TB, but lots)... Multiply that by number of devs, you could have issues with finding a data center...
And storage space. Each ROM for android is 100 to 200 MB, multiplied by all the devs, that would be a hell of a lot of storage space... And where would you back it up to?
It would be a mammoth task... Just saying
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Thanks for your quick response,
Bandwidth and the data space will not be a problem with me ...
As i can arrange an Unlimited data space and bandwidth for this service. With a real high speed connectivity...
But I need your support .... Are you with my me???
Hello all,
I need feedback please...
Is this services really required???
As Pulser said, bandwidth can be a huge issue. However the even larger issue would be with the software companies taking issue with a central repository like what you propose.
Generally, rapidshare and the others offer a certain degree of anonymity, which came in handy whenever Microsoft got a bug up its butt.
Sent from my rooted Droid X, powered by Froyo and Big Red.
As NATF said, the issue of hosting the files would put you in shaky legal waters (regardless of where you live or hold the server, since something like this could reach international scales pretty quickly)...
Even with unlimited bandwidth and unlimited space, I can assure you there will be a limit, where the datacenter would not allow a dedicated server to operate at (I presume you are talking dedicated server, as anything less than full dedicated would have you kicked off the package faster than you could say XDA
But as for bandwidth, I have saturated out 5x100Mbps mirrors with one ROM release, so I honestly think you would be facing an immense task.
Coupled with the fact that even the tiniest slip up would result in almost all the ROMs available being offline while maintenance occurred (making your service lose credibility), if there was data loss, it could be catastrophic if nobody had backups. (Data loss could be due to police raid and seizure warrant, or hack attempts)
Personally, I will always release ROMs from either servers I own, or using space kindly donated by users of our ROMs who have servers operating below capacity.
Mediafire/multiupload etc are also so popular that it would be hard to persuade people to move across. And being able to upload there keeps people further from Microsoft etc, rather than directly uploading...
Imagine if you got subpoenaed for ftpd logs (the logs of all uploads to the server), or worse, the apache access ogs (the details of everyone who downloaded from it)
Whilst it's a very kind and generous offer, I think the logistics and legal issues would prevent it being feasible. A central repository is a good link in the chain to burst, hence why the scattergun approach is much more effective
pulser_g2 said:
As NATF said, the issue of hosting the files would put you in shaky legal waters (regardless of where you live or hold the server, since something like this could reach international scales pretty quickly)...
Even with unlimited bandwidth and unlimited space, I can assure you there will be a limit, where the datacenter would not allow a dedicated server to operate at (I presume you are talking dedicated server, as anything less than full dedicated would have you kicked off the package faster than you could say XDA
But as for bandwidth, I have saturated out 5x100Mbps mirrors with one ROM release, so I honestly think you would be facing an immense task.
Coupled with the fact that even the tiniest slip up would result in almost all the ROMs available being offline while maintenance occurred (making your service lose credibility), if there was data loss, it could be catastrophic if nobody had backups. (Data loss could be due to police raid and seizure warrant, or hack attempts)
Personally, I will always release ROMs from either servers I own, or using space kindly donated by users of our ROMs who have servers operating below capacity.
Mediafire/multiupload etc are also so popular that it would be hard to persuade people to move across. And being able to upload there keeps people further from Microsoft etc, rather than directly uploading...
Imagine if you got subpoenaed for ftpd logs (the logs of all uploads to the server), or worse, the apache access ogs (the details of everyone who downloaded from it)
Whilst it's a very kind and generous offer, I think the logistics and legal issues would prevent it being feasible. A central repository is a good link in the chain to burst, hence why the scattergun approach is much more effective
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Thanks for your credible feedback..
Is there some solution to overcome all theses legal and other kind of issues... and on my side I will look in the matter and get back to you guys...
I really appreciate that you guys took pain in putting some light in this matter.
I've just read it and I want to share it with you.
For all of us who bought this app for Bada 1.2 and now realized that this app won't be available with Bada 2.0:
Samo Jurdik (B2C Business Unit Director) 2 days ago
Dear customers,
I am sorry to share bad news today. We stopped selling our app for bada. The effort we need to put into maintaining the app is not matched with sales.
We will also not provide an update to bada 2.0. We promised to provide the update but we failed to develop it. We worked on the update for a couple of months but we did not manage to get the app working well enough.
Then the news came in that Samsung will merge bada with Tizen. It means to us that we would need to rework our app again. Read more here:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/elizabeth...
Combination of low sales, problems with app updates and a difficult outlook for the operating system lead us to the decision to stop sales of our app for bada.
We are keen to keep you using Sygic. In case you will change your phone to Android in the future, we can provide you with a free migration license. Just contact our support and provide any proof of purchase of our bada app. Unfortunately we can not provide you with free migration license to iOS because billing is handled by Apple.
Once again, sincere apologies for failing to provide you with an update to bada 2.0. I am very sorry.
Samo
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Source: http://support.sygic.com
I think that any word at this moment can describe exactly what i'm thinking about Bada....
Stop spoofing games & Apps
it's means stealing
" Combination of low sales ... "
if everyone instead of spoof the app would buy the app
than maybe it would be worth to the developers to develop more apps for bada
sad
Both Sygic and NDrive had terrible pricing for their apps. Heck the Australia version of one of the apps was $80, while most of the other versions was only $40.
I agree that spoofing can hurt the overall sales of an app, but an app needs to be priced right, and have some consistency. Secondly alot of people who spoofed these apps were never offered a proper version they could download for their part of the world. When you see that neither Sygic or NDrive create the map data themselves, then it seems even more of a no brainer as to why they didn't have proper worldwide coverage of their apps.
Apps are usually priced the same across different OS and not across different countries. Check the second sentence, Samo clearly states that sales as compared to effort for development/maintenance is not on par. Stop spoofing and start buying.
Hi
With my S8600 i can found sygic in the store (web+device).
On the french store...
I don't buy it, maybe someone know if it's run o bada 2.0
regards
Don't buy it. It won't run on bada 2.0.
Real reason?
corporate.tomtom.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=637944
TomTom signs strategic deal with Samsung
while spoofing may hurt sales a little i dont think that is the main problem for this decision (hell... android has even more people getting their paid apps for free... i personally dont know any 1 who has paid for their gps app ... lol .. maybe sad.. but true)
i think it has more to do with the fact that the future of bada is at this moment a lottery, and on the other hand,, the deal with tomtom
In case of Andriod that is not an issue, as the customer base is so large that even a small percentage of people buying the apps meet the developer's target. And for bada as the customer base is low it affects the developers a lot. Future of bada doesn't just depends on the Samsung's decision and the deal with tomtom, it also depends on us being a good customer. We need to pay for what we use and not just steal as no-one can catch us. If we want bada to flourish then support it and don't be a leech.
@wav3rid3r : I'm not pointing fingers at you, just making a statement in general.
Hi,
I am new to this community, and i have a question about my phone
I want to get GTA Vice City but i do not have the money right now to but it, so i have found the .apk file on apk _
but when i install the .apk, it wont let me play because it does not have the obb files
Apk mania provides me the obb files but where do i save it on the phone so that i could play on it.
I plug my phone in my computer, i go to phone - android but there is not obb files which apk mania tells me to save it at,
Hope someone understands my problems and could help me.
It says i cannot post outside link so i could not provide the apk mania site for gta vice city, but google it
You should not be posting threads about illegally downloaded software.. Unless you want banning?
Not sure
Magician_rd said:
Hi,
I am new to this community, and i have a question about my phone
I want to get GTA Vice City but i do not have the money right now to but it, so i have found the .apk file on apk Mania
but when i install the .apk, it wont let me play because it does not have the obb files
Apk mania provides me the obb files but where do i save it on the phone so that i could play on it.
I plug my phone in my computer, i go to phone - android but there is not obb files which apk mania tells me to save it at,
Hope someone understands my problems and could help me.
It says i cannot post outside link so i could not provide the apk mania site for gta vice city, but google it
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Im not 100% sure on this one but you could try saving the OBB files in the folder where the APK was installed and maybe that would work.
Hope it helps, if not let me know what happend.:good:
MJewhurst said:
Im not 100% sure on this one but you could try saving the OBB files in the folder where the APK was installed and maybe that would work.
Hope it helps, if not let me know what happend.:good:
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no that would not work. the obb files would need to be stored in the phone in the folder marked 'android'. there you would need to place the files in the folder marked 'obb'
Go to phone android if you didn't find the obb folder then create one and paste the files inside it
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Magician_rd said:
Hi,
I am new to this community, and i have a question about my phone
I want to get GTA Vice City but i do not have the money right now to but it, so i have found the .apk file on apk Mania
but when i install the .apk, it wont let me play because it does not have the obb files
Apk mania provides me the obb files but where do i save it on the phone so that i could play on it.
I plug my phone in my computer, i go to phone - android but there is not obb files which apk mania tells me to save it at,
Hope someone understands my problems and could help me.
It says i cannot post outside link so i could not provide the apk mania site for gta vice city, but google it
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<your internal memory drive>/Android/obb
Your internal memory would be named sdcard0 or sdcard I guess.
If the folder obb doesn't exist, then create it using a file explorer.
Extract the apkmania files, and place the folder inside obb.
Apkmania mentions this on every page. But it's ok, I kind of had it hard the first time too
Hope this helped
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Those who help noobs go to heaven. True story.
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mklass said:
You should not be posting threads about illegally downloaded software.. Unless you want banning?
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Hey man, not questioning any principles, but just a random general query. Aren't ALL custom ROMs and kernels etc illegal softwares in the eyes of Samsung/HTC etc? How does xda decide which are or which are not?
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SacGuru said:
Hey man, not questioning any principles, but just a random general query. Aren't ALL custom ROMs and kernels etc illegal softwares in the eyes of Samsung/HTC etc? How does xda decide which are or which are not?
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I'm certainly no voice of moral authority but I guess you could argue that using custom ROMs doesn't take any money away from Samsung / HTC etc (if anything it probably makes them more money) whereas using pirated software does take away money from the developers.
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I'm certainly no voice of moral authority but I guess you could argue that using custom ROMs doesn't take any money away from Samsung / HTC etc (if anything it probably makes them more money) whereas using pirated software does take away money from the developers.
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I guess you are somewhat right. There just seems to be a superficial difference between 'downloading an illegal software' which this forum approves of, and 'dowloading a software illegally' which it does not.
What bugs me is that some times there remains no difference beetween the two. For example, I use a script to make my external memory card function as my as the internal memory, me being someone with high storage needs, even for applications, than the manufacturer provided 16gb. No one on xda would disapprove of that. However Sammy does, and incurs a loss as otherwise I would have bought a 64 gb model from them somehow.
Have we collectively decided at some point along the line that the big bad manufacturer can be fooled whenever required, whereas the developers who are not as prosperous should be helped?
Please do note that this remains just a query. I support xda and the developers here completely in all they do, along with the very minimal payment (cost of a pint or two) they sometimes ask for, and never wish to go go against the forum rules.
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But you did make a purchase from them. Once you bought it, you're free to staple to your head if you so desire. The flipside is the OP didn't purchase from the developers. If he had paid for, and couldn't get it to work, and was looking for a way to enable it, that's the acceptable route.
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I would love to help you, but help yourself first: ask a better question
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But you did make a purchase from them. Once you bought it, you're free to staple to your head if you so desire. The flipside is the OP didn't purchase from the developers. If he had paid for, and couldn't get it to work, and was looking for a way to enable it, that's the acceptable route.
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That sounds really flimsy.
There are mods and even ROMs which provide us with some special characters on our stock keyboard, which are infact only available on some paid keyboards. Aren't we stealing the right to profit of those developers when we are not buying from them? Of course we are not directly stealing their softwares, but doesn't it imply almost the same thing.
Large sms (>3) get converted to mms by default, which should cost you a little data charge. We use mods and ROMs which include these mods to avoid that data charge, and only pay for a text nessage. That is like paying for a voice call when you have made a video one.
A developer such as apkmania buys the game. Believing in your principles of being free to even 'stapling it to his head' if he so desires, he modifies and redistributes it just so others can play it. And somewhere there, he is believed to overexploit his right. For users like the OP, any such game is no different than a mod, a script which extends the capability of his device.
It all comes down to one's personal opinion. There are people who believe modifying your device or loading custom firmwares on them is downright dishonest. You are right of course, from how you and I see things, but in their eyes there would be no difference between using a custom ROM or a pirated copy of a game.
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put the folder you have downloaded from Apkmania to that path
sdcards0/android/obb
if it doesn't work..so put it in that path
sdcards0/android/data
it should work...but just use the folder name as you downloaded from apkmania
don't change the name of it
SacGuru said:
That sounds really flimsy.
There are mods and even ROMs which provide us with some special characters on our stock keyboard, which are infact only available on some paid keyboards. Aren't we stealing the right to profit of those developers when we are not buying from them? Of course we are not directly stealing their softwares, but doesn't it imply almost the same thing.
Large sms (>3) get converted to mms by default, which should cost you a little data charge. We use mods and ROMs which include these mods to avoid that data charge, and only pay for a text nessage. That is like paying for a voice call when you have made a video one.
A developer such as apkmania buys the game. Believing in your principles of being free to even 'stapling it to his head' if he so desires, he modifies and redistributes it just so others can play it. And somewhere there, he is believed to overexploit his right. For users like the OP, any such game is no different than a mod, a script which extends the capability of his device.
It all comes down to one's personal opinion. There are people who believe modifying your device or loading custom firmwares on them is downright dishonest. You are right of course, from how you and I see things, but in their eyes there would be no difference between using a custom ROM or a pirated copy of a game.
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Since we can think every 3rd party software as it is able to be considered together with the main software of the device and also exdends the capabilities of it we have to find another way to determine the difference. This way is to take the developers (or creaters let's say) into account. When Apple sued jailbreak, US court decided people had any right to do with their handsets because iOS software was not to be considered seperately from iDevices so people are free to modify it as they wish. This decision gives us a good perspective of "haking" and "modifying"
For example Microsoft can be defined seperately from your computer. Your PC would be still a PC without a Windows on it. So MS has right to sell it seperately or sue you if you crack it. No one says "I am buying a Windows laptop", people say "I am buying a Asus laptop". But when you buy your phone you say "I am buying an Android phone". This defines the "Android" together with the "phone". So as long as you buy the phone, you buy the "Android" with it and you have every right to modify it within the laws because that is what manufacturers do excatly. You have more right to modifiy it than them because you pay money for the device, they don't! And yet they give you broken software (maybe intentionally, maybe Samsung is collecting info from the memory bug and selling them?)
For a 3rd party app/game which you have to pay "to another creator" to have you have no rights on it (because if you remove the software from your phone, it is still considered as an Android phone working with the features you have been promised)! You do NOT even have anything to claim on the updates. Just because you have Photoshop 3 it doesn't mean you will have PS 5 for free. They are considered seperate softwares from the same "maker". Getting free updates is something that the "creator" of the saftware agreed on to give you more in order to take more from you Google gives you updated software so you can buy your very expensive phone by believeing you can use it for a certain amount of time. Or you can buy an Android phone instead of Apple phone or Windows Phone.
About the "new or modified software can prevent you buying a 3rd party app which as that thing as a feature"; this is a matter of preference. You can say "I have already a keyboard on my device, no need to buy another one", or you can also say "Hey I can theme this keyboard as red and it has a better prediction than the stock one" and buy it. For a long time many features have been getting included by many firmwares and it is OK I believe because this time we have to seperate and define the softwares as "games/apps" and "feature adders".
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I personaly use hacked/cracked software because my country does not allow me to view every content on Google Play and I also have to pay more than anyone on the earth for a device. In Turkey Galaxy Note 2 16 Gb is sold for 1025$ (veries between 1100-1000 actually). I don't think there is a more expensive one in the world. That's my excuse as a student who gets 750$ a month. Once I move to another country or get a good job I will start by supporting the CM team then buy the games.
But although this is my way of "balancing" (I consider myself already paid for the next 100 games by just buying the phone for that price) things or giving a reaction to unfair taxes I believe in supporting the devs. Because so called "big" compaines are NOT even able to support our devices as developers/app makers/game makers are doing here. Samsung is a big fat lier for example. They give us broken firmwares and breake their promises. If it wasn't for the CM team, for example, Galaxy S would be long dead by now.
All other potentially interesting arguments over legal technicalities and attitudes aside; the OP own a smartphone worth hundreds of <local currency> and yet is claiming they can't afford to pay a few <local currency> for a single game. That's bull**** right there. If he just came out and said, "Guys, I'm a cheap bastard who's for help to pirate my software," I'd at least respect him but starting with the excuse of not being able to afford it is nonsense.
Comparing custom ROMs and priated software isn't really comparing apples with apples.
I think of it like this...
Using custom ROMs is like buying a car and then taking it to a tuner to mod the engine.
Using pirated games is like breaking into the dealer and just stealing the car.
Also, no one has ever been busted for using custom ROMs, whereas plenty of people have been trouble with the law for using pirated software.
This thread should be locked and closed.
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So I think I've come up with an idea for an app that could be huge! (like everyone's killer app idea!) But I can't code for android, nor iPhone - and yes this is huge enough to be cross platform.
Don't know where to begin.
The idea?:
Private for now
What I offer?:
The million $ idea ("may" involve chat app, possibly cloud storage, pretty sure telecoms will hate it
Marketing
Entrepreneur mindset
My time
Research
My concerns?:
Can't code
Discussing this and stealing it from me
Really no idea where to begin
No silicon Valley contacts
What I need?:
Developer/coder/partner
Possibly investor or angel
Worldwide patent
I truly think I'm on to something and with chat apps, social and cloud storage beings popular this could be huge $
I guess you need to give us at least some insight in your million dollar idea, otherwise noone will be willing to help you. If you can't code, that's no problem! Try out programs like Construct2 or GameMaker, those allow you to create apps without any coding knowledge.