Hi users of HOX,
I have owned this HOX since last April and I was wondering if anyone has the same problem.
From what I know, the HOX will get less charge (around 200mAH instead of 700mAH) when the percentage reaches the 90% mark.
However for my HOX, the reduced charge rate seems to start at 70%.
Does this mean that my battery capacity/life has been hindered and reduced?
Attached is the graph of my battery charge overnight.
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Clearly, the slope became a hill at the 70% mark.
Anyone understands what does it mean?
My HOX can't even last more than 5 hours because of this it seems.
P.S.: I am using ICJ421 v1.3.1
it wont make any difference, just means that the last 20 or 30% charges slower - does not affect capacity.
Lol
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mugglesquop said:
it wont make any difference, just means that the last 20 or 30% charges slower - does not affect capacity.
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Last 20% or 30% charges slower? But it wasn't like that before.
BHH95 said:
Lol
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Flame much?
limzm said:
Last 20% or 30% charges slower? But it wasn't like that before.
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Charging of Li-Ion batteries is in two* phases, constant current, and then constant voltage. During constant voltage, the current will drop off from around a maximum if 1A to nothing (it's not linear). So that's normal. You should expect to see something like a 20% reduction in capacity after 1000 charge cycles.
*Technically there is a third phase that keeps it topped up, but that's not really relevant here, and it's just a repeat of the last bit of the second stage, after capacity has dropped a bit.
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So, at some point I turned off my phone and I -think- the sudden spike down in battery life is around that time.
Anyone got any explanations?
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Mine has done that as well a couple of times. One time I had a charge of around 75%...rebooted my phone, and the battery was down to 15% percent.
Maybe it's just another bug we'll have to deal with until they come out with a fix.
thats strange mine doesnt have that much of a dip
every samsung product I have does this, gt 7, gt 10.1, droid charge, and this one. I don't recall my og droid, evo 4g or 3d doing this.
All phones show a dip when there is a battery pull while the phone is on....
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Wasn't a pull, just a shutdown and reboot.
gmap516 said:
So, at some point I turned off my phone and I -think- the sudden spike down in battery life is around that time.
Anyone got any explanations?
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Hi, what app is this?
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Stock battery stats lol
**** didn't notice that graph at the top.
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well if your phone was rebooted then that bald would have been reset because it displays monitors since last power-on.
there seems to be a bug where the cpu fails to underclock after a certain amount of usage and/or load. rebooting after intensive apps and/or before leaving the phone idle for extended periods of time seems to solve the problem for me. yes i get that too.
expr said:
**** didn't notice that graph at the top.
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just press on top after you press battery usage on the screen that shows you the battery usage.
Found this, what do you guys think? trust worthy? waste of money? great deal? faked reviews? not sure. opinions please
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Extended-Ba...3JWS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345615206&sr=8-1
I just bought one of these. Been using it since Monday. Not sure about it yet, still bedding it in. Today is my first usage after a full discharge cycle.
Yesterday I discharged the battery as fast as possible by running stability test and I still managed to get 5 hours screen time.
Will update at the end of this cycle.
jonathanyong said:
I just bought one of these. Been using it since Monday. Not sure about it yet, still bedding it in. Today is my first usage after a full discharge cycle.
Yesterday I discharged the battery as fast as possible by running stability test and I still managed to get 5 hours screen time.
Will update at the end of this cycle.
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Please keep me up to date with how your usage goes. would mean a lot. very curious about this battery.
Ok still not sure about this yet. I've now done 2 full discharge cycles by draining the battery as fast as possible. I ran stabilitytest again last night and ended up with 5.5 hours screen time with 14 hours off charger. Charged it overnight and bump charged it a few times.
Today I'm going to see how it fares with normal use. Not very impressed so far though as I'm at 83% battery with 49 minutes screen time and 5 hours off charger. Light usage today with a few hours of music through wired headphones. Maybe the battery % isn't calibrated properly and it'll drop slower as it approaches midline, who knows.
Will keep updating.
I know someone with it and he said it barely lasts 20% longer than standard battery, so guess that means around 2500mah
Conclusion after 6 days and 5 cycles is that I'm getting about 25% more than stock. Not great but I got it for a tenner inc delivery so can't complain.
Shame we can't get the hyperions in the UK. Would love to get my hands on one of those.
Actually starting to like this battery. Getting decent results now.
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Hello, I have the problem that no matter which charger / charge cable ,the phone takes at least 3 hours to charge 0% -> 100%, the battery once charged gives me life 3-4hs sot (screen on time). Thanks
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Sounds like your battery is bad. If you have the phone/battery for about a year or less, it's possible the battery is defective. If you have another battery use that one, but if you have a new battery you will need to cycle charge the battery. This means you have to charge from 0 to 100, let it deplete completely and keep doing the same thing for about 3-6 charges. This effectively breaks in a battery giving you the best longevity.
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Sounds like your battery is bad. If you have the phone/battery for about a year or less, it's possible the battery is defective. If you have another battery use that one, but if you have a new battery you will need to cycle charge the battery. This means you have to charge from 0 to 100, let it deplete completely and keep doing the same thing for about 3-6 charges. This effectively breaks in a battery giving you the best longevity.
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thanks tonys, i will try it
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thanks tonys, i will try it
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sorry to revive this thread but did a new battery work for you? I'm experiencing similar problems since the MM update, without fast charging enabled it charges at about 600mah, with fast charging enabled its about 1000mah but tapers off to 400mah once it gets to 85%
I'm not sure if its my battery or if this is a new "feature" of MM, last time that i charged from 30% it took 4 hours to reach 100% if anyone got a suggestion let me know.
3-4 hours is great compared to mine. If I use the USB cable, it'll take about 12+ hours (0-100%). Problem started after I dropped the phone. Luckily wireless charging takes about 5 hours.
Used to be no more than 2 hours before, not sure what the problem is, the battery is only a year old
Good battery or software bug? Still on 100% even after 1hour 25 minutes
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And I have played candy crush for 10 minutes, half hour YouTube, dual sim connected with 4G
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And I have played candy crush for 10 minutes, half hour YouTube, dual sim connected with 4G
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I think its just a bug, mine seems to stay on 100% for a long time too. It does drop eventually. The battery life is very good on this phone though. I've never had it run out during a day yet. It does seem to better reflect battery use at it gets lower.
GavCity said:
I think its just a bug, mine seems to stay on 100% for a long time too. It does drop eventually. The battery life is very good on this phone though. I've never had it run out during a day yet. It does seem to better reflect battery use at it gets lower.
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Yes you are right after 90 minutes it's dropped to 99 and 98, I thought I have to restart to get correct reading but didn't
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I have same issue. Stays at 100% after 30mins or more of usage. As soon at it drops to 98% battery drain becomes normal.
I did the calibration reset code *#0228# and it didn't change a thing.
Battery life is good on this phone but nothing impressive.
Probably needs a few charge cycles for the battery to calibrate properly, happened to me too.
Still going strong, no power saving , 4g all the time , Bluetooth all the time, alot of games, Facebook and YouTube
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My battery life
this phone is excellent on battery life.
when i first used it and charged it to 100%, I noticed the same thing, and was confused, checked to see if the phone froze, etc. But then I started to feel invincible from the overabundance of power. LOL.
Topic: Expected charge cycle count before capacity drops to 80% of rated capacity of 4905mAh 18.88 Wh for the Sunwoda battery in the P6P
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Please vote mentioning your charge cycle count along with actual capacity vs the rated capacity of 4905 mAh/18.88 Wh
That's an interesting topic. With my P4 XL, I won the actual capacity lottery and had a phone that started with 109% capacity.
My P6 Pro has (according to 3 weeks of Accubattery) about 102% actual capacity (~5110 mAh) after 21 sessions with ~1100% charged (~ 55000 mAh).
The design capacity by the way, as you can see in your screenshot, is 5003 - not 4905 as per your statement.
4905 is the MINIMUM amount that Google accepts/offers, 5003 is the "typical"
-> (typical = design)
I'd give it a 3.6
Not great, not terrible.
Wondering how everyone's battery capacity has been doing. Out of the box Accubattery stabilized around 99% for me but now after 4 months I've dropped to 95% (4755mah). This is much faster degredation than I typically see on my devices. 95% of the time the phone is between 20-80% charge, my chargers shut off at 80% unless I know I'm going to need the extra capacity. My unit runs hot quite often and Im thinking that it is wearing out the battery with all the heat. Curious what other users are seeing after some months of ownership.
niggits said:
Wondering how everyone's battery capacity has been doing. Out of the box Accubattery stabilized around 99% for me but now after 4 months I've dropped to 95% (4755mah). This is much faster degredation than I typically see on my devices. 95% of the time the phone is between 20-80% charge, my chargers shut off at 80% unless I know I'm going to need the extra capacity. My unit runs hot quite often and Im thinking that it is wearing out the battery with all the heat. Curious what other users are seeing after some months of ownership.
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Mine started at 102% and is now at 101%. Got it when phone was 1st released in Oct..
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Mine started at 102% and is now at 101%. Got it when phone was 1st released in Oct..
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Good to hear you are having more luck, 1-2% per year is what I am used to seeing on past devices under similar usage patterns.