Phone not locked sometimes??? Anyone else - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II

I have had it happen a few times.
One i remember that i put the phone to charge overnight and i plug it in and went to take a shower. I didn't pressed the power button just left it to time out. The next morning i hit home and swipe to put my pin and unlock but it just took me to the home screen without having to input a pin.
I have had it happen a few other times that i put it out of my pocket and i try to get on the phone and it just go to the home screen it didn't ask me for my pin.
I hope you guys understand what i mean, and maybe someone has experience the same thing.
Thank you.

Papi4baby said:
I have had it happen a few times.
One i remember that i put the phone to charge overnight and i plug it in and went to take a shower. I didn't pressed the power button just left it to time out. The next morning i hit home and swipe to put my pin and unlock but it just took me to the home screen without having to input a pin.
I have had it happen a few other times that i put it out of my pocket and i try to get on the phone and it just go to the home screen it didn't ask me for my pin.
I hope you guys understand what i mean, and maybe someone has experience the same thing.
Thank you.
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Happens to me once in a while as well...I simply chalked it up to it's an imperfect world we live in.

Just wanted to make sure it was just not me. I will be contacting att and samsung, since I believe this to be a security flaw.
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Do you have Smart Stay enabled? That might pick up a false trigger and keep the screen on.

I do not.
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Custom rom?
Had the same issue when device first came out. But my device would wake/lockscreen with power and govhome with home button
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intruda119 said:
Custom rom?
Had the same issue when device first came out. But my device would wake/lockscreen with power and govhome with home button
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Phone is completely stock, both software and hardware.
ATT sugested a master reset. I have yet to do it.
The issue has not come back for at least a week now. Now that i think about it, i think after the 4.1.2 update i have not notice it.

Do you happen to have an app installed that will let you view what state the cpu is in? Like cpu spy. (ex: deep sleep)
Maybe the phone isn't going to sleep.. Something could be keeping it awake, making the android system think that the phone is still in use.
Do you have the option checked for screen lock delay? -- the one that keeps the phone from locking within a certain amount of time after the screen has turned off.
I see you said it hasn't happened for a while.. but if it does happen again, maybe you can try to see if you have a wake clock by viewing the cpu state.
Just a thought

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[Q] HTC EVO top lock/wake up button not registering all the time.

I have had my Htc Evo rooted for a long time now. This problem recently just started and I'm not sure if it's because my phone is rooted or maybe it's just an electrical or hardware problem. The top right button to lock the phone or to wake it up from sleep doesn't register all the time. I sometimes have to push it several times for it to work. Do you think I should restore my phone? Maybe it's because it's rooted? Something got corrupted? I'm leaning more towards hardware problems..
Any ideas?
Thanks!
steveojp said:
I have had my Htc Evo rooted for a long time now. This problem recently just started and I'm not sure if it's because my phone is rooted or maybe it's just an electrical or hardware problem. The top right button to lock the phone or to wake it up from sleep doesn't register all the time. I sometimes have to push it several times for it to work. Do you think I should restore my phone? Maybe it's because it's rooted? Something got corrupted? I'm leaning more towards hardware problems..
Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Are you just having trouble waking the phone up with the power button, or is it all functions of the power button are acting weird? Does it put the phone to sleep fine? I've had it happen a few times, where the phone wouldn't wake up by pushing that button. That was attributed to the ROM i was using at the time, and also having the min clock setting at 128.
If your case is different, and the button isn't working properly for all of it's functiopns, and not just waking up the phone, it could be a hardware issue, or the button mechanism could be hanging up or something.
k2buckley said:
Are you just having trouble waking the phone up with the power button, or is it all functions of the power button are acting weird? Does it put the phone to sleep fine? I've had it happen a few times, where the phone wouldn't wake up by pushing that button. That was attributed to the ROM i was using at the time, and also having the min clock setting at 128.
If your case is different, and the button isn't working properly for all of it's functiopns, and not just waking up the phone, it could be a hardware issue, or the button mechanism could be hanging up or something.
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All the functions of the power button is acting weird..sometimes I have to push the button like 10 times for it to wake up so I can unlock my phone. Sometimes I have to push it 5 times or more to turn it off. It's weird though how this randomly started doing this. I was hoping it was the Rom. I'm running Fresh I've never had any problems with it. That's why I leaned more towards the hardware. Is there any way to go around pushing the power button to wake up the phone? Do you think I should restore my phone to see if it maybe fixes the problem?
Thanks!
steveojp said:
All the functions of the power button is acting weird..sometimes I have to push the button like 10 times for it to wake up so I can unlock my phone. Sometimes I have to push it 5 times or more to turn it off. It's weird though how this randomly started doing this. I was hoping it was the Rom. I'm running Fresh I've never had any problems with it. That's why I leaned more towards the hardware. Is there any way to go around pushing the power button to wake up the phone? Do you think I should restore my phone to see if it maybe fixes the problem?
Thanks!
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If it was me, I would make a nand backup of your current setup, and then try flashing a different rom, and seeing if the problem persists. If it continues, I'd then unroot and return to stock setup. If it happens on stock setup, I'd then take it to Sprint to have it looked at.
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k2buckley said:
If it was me, I would make a nand backup of your current setup, and then try flashing a different rom, and seeing if the problem persists. If it continues, I'd then unroot and return to stock setup. If it happens on stock setup, I'd then take it to Sprint to have it looked at.
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Alright, I'll do that. Thanks
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Power BUtton Problems with Waking etc.
Not sure if you ever resolved your issue, but I have the EVO 3D, NOT rooted but with the latest updates, and ever since the last OTA update that moved me to software level 2.08.651.2, I have had issues with the phone not waking on an inbound call until I hit the power button and then wait about 8 seconds for the screen to come on. I have Factory Restored it 3 times, which seems to fix the problem temporarily, but it always comes back.
I just did a warranty replacement claim to see if that will finally resolve the issue. I even found a post where someone said the stock batteries are somewhat loose, so I took a business card and taped it to the bottom of the battery, opposite of the charging posts so that the fit would be better, still no luck.
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Alright, I'll do that. Thanks
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Lock screen gone

Usually after pressing the power button the pink lock screen from tmobile would show up. But today after pressing the button to unlock the phone theres no lock screen, it just goes straight to the homescreeen. I tried putting a password and it still doesnt bring up the lock screen. Has this happened to anyone else?
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This is still an issue after a restart?
that would have been normal on CM7 if you disabled lock screen
but on TW... it's rather unusual, specially when we still have no root
can you try installing super user meanwhile you are at it?
mziol said:
This is still an issue after a restart?
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Yea, i even took out the battery
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Also, theres another problem. When I hold the power button the phone shuts off automatically instead of the menu asking you want to turn of the phone.
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This definitely sounds like a faulty phone, I would return it. These options are normally present in a CM7 build like allgamer said.
I don't think that it is a faulty phone. Watch the review by Mobile Syrup and the lock screen on their phone is gone to.
mine is doing the same no lock screen and phone shuts off as soon as I hold the power button
Edit: just tried setting a lock screen with pin and nothing still hmmm
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kkg720 said:
I don't think that it is a faulty phone. Watch the review by Mobile Syrup and the lock screen on their phone is gone to.
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So weird. You could try contacting the guys over at Mobile Syrup that did the review.
So i just did a factory reset and everything is fine now.
No lock screen and when I click on power bottom it just shock down without the 3 choices (power off, airplane mode and silent)
pinadala gamit ang galaxy s2 (premium xda)
If and when I get this phone you'll have about 9 lockscreens to choose from and a variety of power options (as well as a ton of other mods and hacks).
Just click on a few of the links in my sig.
Yes I can't wait
Whitehawkx said:
If and when I get this phone you'll have about 9 lockscreens to choose from and a variety of power options (as well as a ton of other mods and hacks).
Just click on a few of the links in my sig.
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how do you do a factory reset?
What will a factory reset erase? Will i have to root again?
This is my problem, I have been using my sim card for like 6 years now and today it just stopped working in my phone..
So I took it out and put it back in , still doesnt work, and right after that happend I realized that my lock screen had ceased functioning which i read is a known issue.
So i lost all my contacts, i will go have to get a new sim tomorrow, still don't know if i should trade the phone is for a new one.
this problem had something to do with the *#0*# command, and and testing the camera while in that menu. i just reflashed the deodexed rom and it was fine.
I had this problem too. I had to do a factory reset to fix the problem.
Here's another thread discussing a potential cause of the issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18702063&postcount=12
There are programs out there to use until then. Right now I'm using Quick Boot and it seems to do the trick just fine.
Whitehawkx said:
If and when I get this phone you'll have about 9 lockscreens to choose from and a variety of power options (as well as a ton of other mods and hacks).
Just click on a few of the links in my sig.
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And you should have got the phone on release day lol bring on the hacks
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I'm rooted and used Titanium Backup, and a few other "safe" apps. Then suddenly my screen lock dissapeared. Battery pulls would not restore it and neither would any settings fiddling. When I held the power button down two seconds, it would shut the phone off instead of the usual popup that gives you the option to power down.
The only way I was able to restore it was reset the phone to factory settings. Then I restored via a CW backup (wow CW is awesome)
Anyway is this a common thing? I can't imagine this happening to an iPhone. What could cause this--do I have to erase my phone next time this happens? What a PITA!!!
Did you try the numeric combo which gets you into the phone diagnostics? If so we discovered that the megacam test hoses the lockscreen for some reason.
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Phone rebooting like crazy...help

I literally have never had a problem like this with this phone, but just recently I flashed the new AOKP jb 8-29 build and after a day or two of using it I started getting random reboots where the phone would crash and then start vibrating in intervals. I couldn't get it to stop unless I pulled the battery. Thinking this was just a bug with the rom, I just rebooted to recovery and wiped and flashed the latest jedi mind trick v7. I let the phone sit for a little bit after first boot, but when I then tried to go through the setup I got the exact same problem. Now the phone crashes like this every time I boot up and even while I'm in recovery mode! Someone please help if you know what might be causing this.
EDIT: Now it's doing this every time I put the battery back in; I can't turn on the phone or go into recovery while it's vibrating like this
Sound like a faulty power button. I've seen many, many threads like yours. Almost certain that's the case. Mobiletech offers a power button service. Check them out
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-t-mobile/
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LoopDoGG79 said:
Sound like a faulty power button. I've seen many, many threads like yours. Almost certain that's the case. Mobiletech offers a power button service. Check them out
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-t-mobile/
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I think you're right because before every time I put in the battery the phone would turn on, but I tapped the power button a few times to loosen it up and put the battery in and it didn't turn on. Is there any way to remote start without having to touch the power button that you know of? Thanks for the advice btw
This same scenario happened to me just yesterday morning. I researched it and this issue does seem to be popping up more frequently among Samsung phones. Maybe power button design is faulty and they're starting to wear out now after a year plus of use? I sent mine off to MobileTechVideos today to be fixed. I feel so lost without my phone!
jmariconda said:
I think you're right because before every time I put in the battery the phone would turn on, but I tapped the power button a few times to loosen it up and put the battery in and it didn't turn on. Is there any way to remote start without having to touch the power button that you know of? Thanks for the advice btw
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What I've read is no. Its not the button its self, but the circuits behind the button that mess up. Unless you are really skilled at soldering and can re wire the board, I don't see that happening.
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[Q] How to prevent LCD from turning on everytime I charge??

How do I prevent the screen from turning on everytime I plug it into the charger, remove it, or it gets to 100%?
I plug it in all the time and I always have to turn the screen off or suffer the wrath of screen timeout. When I unplug to place it in my pocket, again, I must turn the screen off, WHY? The s3 comes with an LED indicator for a reason, so we don't have to have the screen on. WHO IS THIS FOR EXACTLY?!?!
I know this isn't the end of the world but it's annoying as hell! - I can't be the only one can I?
Plug it in.. press lock... it's one button press man.
Wrath of Screen Timeout? Explain?
psykhotic said:
Plug it in.. press lock... it's one button press man.
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Technically it's several presses a day. This is a legitimate question that I think a lot of people would at least be interested in. I know a lot of people have learned to live with it by now but we should have the option by now. I mean come on, is this Android or isn't it?
SiNJiN76 said:
Wrath of Screen Timeout? Explain?
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Just a spicy way of saying wait for the screen to turn off by itself. Any ideas?
lordazoroth said:
Technically it's several presses a day. This is a legitimate question that I think a lot of people would at least be interested in. I know a lot of people have learned to live with it by now but we should have the option by now. I mean come on, is this Android or isn't it?
Just a spicy way of saying wait for the screen to turn off by itself. Any ideas?
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I agree with you. Its really annoying. Ive been able to disable the screen turning on when unplug but havent been able to get it to stay off when plugging in. BTW this is on CM10.
How often do you charge your phone that you're pressing the button several times a day? I plug it in at night, ok good my alarms on, press off. Unplug it in the morning, oh new emails, unlock, etc, press off.
I don't think anyone has coded it out yet because it's not very noticeable. I spent some time searching but couldn't find anything, complaints or otherwise. Maybe try posting in a custom ROM and seeing if any of those guys have ideas? Anyways, free bump..
Screen Blanks off when charging/laid down
Just a spicy way of saying wait for the screen to turn off by itself. Any ideas?
Go to the market and D/L Screebl (Screen Blank)
I set it for min and after 4 secs the screen blanks off. If I have the phone in a using/upright position, It will not go off...
Very Simple and useful app. The portrait and landscape settings are user adjustable. Try it. You'll like it!
Awesome suggestions guys, thank you so much! I'll be in Ohio for a few days but when I get back I'll try some of these out, Thx again.
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lordazoroth said:
Awesome suggestions guys, thank you so much! I'll be in Ohio for a few days but when I get back I'll try some of these out, Thx again.
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I'll be testing some ideas I have. It might be hidden in the services.jar or framework.jar.
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Thanks, I'd appreciate any info you can come up with.
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lordazoroth said:
Thanks, I'd appreciate any info you can come up with.
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It's a lot to check. There are three .jar files I have decompiled. And there are hundreds of files that I have to go through.
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Just a thought, what about using the proximity sensor to keep the screen off? I leave my phone screen down when it's charging and when you unplug it it's most likely going in your pocket right?
psykhotic said:
Just a thought, what about using the proximity sensor to keep the screen off? I leave my phone screen down when it's charging and when you unplug it it's most likely going in your pocket right?
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It still turns on. :\ it's like a wake lock. However it does shut off right away if the sensor is covered
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[Q] Screen wont turn on

I have the new Galaxy Note 2014 edition tablet, as does my son. My son came home today with his tablet and told me the screen no longer turns on. He said he was playing a game with a friend when the screen flickered and then went dark. Nothing seems to bring it back online.
Tried to press the power button and volume up button for a forced reboot. Most times does not but it did reboot once and stayed black.
Also tried pressing the power button down while pressing a finger on the screen, apparently a solution to sleep of death or something. I can't tell if that does anything - if anything it seems to turn it off or something because it has become unresponsive after doing that.
Any thoughts on what to do next?
Gamul1 said:
I have the new Galaxy Note 2014 edition tablet, as does my son. My son came home today with his tablet and told me the screen no longer turns on. He said he was playing a game with a friend when the screen flickered and then went dark. Nothing seems to bring it back online.
Tried to press the power button and volume up button for a forced reboot. Most times does not but it did reboot once and stayed black.
Also tried pressing the power button down while pressing a finger on the screen, apparently a solution to sleep of death or something. I can't tell if that does anything - if anything it seems to turn it off or something because it has become unresponsive after doing that.
Any thoughts on what to do next?
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I seem to be able to get it into two states right now, but neither is like it was - powered on and "working" but no screen. If I hold the power button for a while it seems ot go into a deep state of sleep or off, but I do not quite think it is off. If I hold it again for 30 seconds nothing happens at all. If I hold it again for 4 seconds, the back and menu soft keys will light up again. And then I can get them to light by hitting the home button or a quick touch of the power button.
Press and hold power in either state while holding volume up no longer seems to take me to a reboot - I no longer hear the power up music.
No idea what state it really is in or how to get it out of this.
ok - I think when it is able to light the buttons - it actually is still on. I just heard the vibration notification of an incoming alert (email, twitter or something).
Gamul1 said:
ok - I think when it is able to light the buttons - it actually is still on. I just heard the vibration notification of an incoming alert (email, twitter or something).
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Have you tried connecting it to your charger for 15 min or so to see if anything changes.
Are you rooted?
kkretch said:
Have you tried connecting it to your charger for 15 min or so to see if anything changes.
Are you rooted?
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I have had it plugged in for a couple hours now and no change. I am not rooted. It is completely stock except the apps installed.
Thanks!
Sounds like a hardware fault. Take it back under warranty.
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dr.m0x said:
Sounds like a hardware fault. Take it back under warranty.
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dr.m0x said:
Sounds like a hardware fault. Take it back under warranty.
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Yeah - I am thinking you are right. Not sure if I can just send it back as I bought it on Amazon. Would Samsung repair service be a valid option?
Gamul1 said:
Yeah - I am thinking you are right. Not sure if I can just send it back as I bought it on Amazon. Would Samsung repair service be a valid option?
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Use the function to chat with the amazon support.
just google "Amazon Support". You will find the option on the right side on the amazon page
They will know what to do and from my experience amazon will offer you that you can send your tablet either to amazon or directly to samsung and they wil pay the shipping costs good luck !
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Gamul1 said:
Yeah - I am thinking you are right. Not sure if I can just send it back as I bought it on Amazon. Would Samsung repair service be a valid option?
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If you are within your refund stage then get it exchanged for a brand new device if not then yeah you will be covered under warrenty.
Its a problem with your tablet. I know of a few other people in other threads who have also experienced this. My experience was different though because mine didn't turn on out of the box. I think there's a problem with Samsung's display connector. Your best bet is to just get it replaced at this point.
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notebooko said:
Its a problem with your tablet. I know of a few other people in other threads who have also experienced this. My experience was different though because mine didn't turn on out of the box. I think there's a problem with Samsung's display connector. Your best bet is to just get it replaced at this point.
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Yeah - it looks like that. I was hoping for a service option because my son has a lot of homework on it that would be nice to retrieve and of course he is bummed that he might lose all his game stats. I tried ot hook the device up to the pc to see if I could copy some files but although the device shows, its internal drives do not show up.
I really do not know what state the device is in right now. The soft buttons light up and if i pull the smart pen out it vibrates as it acknowledges it has been taken out, and I can hear the occasional vibration notification as an email, twitter update, or some other notification comes in. So - it "seems" like it is on. But I can not get it to do a forced boot and a few other things seem not quite right.
Anyway - Thanks for the help everyone!
Gamul1 said:
Yeah - it looks like that. I was hoping for a service option because my son has a lot of homework on it that would be nice to retrieve and of course he is bummed that he might lose all his game stats. I tried ot hook the device up to the pc to see if I could copy some files but although the device shows, its internal drives do not show up.
I really do not know what state the device is in right now. The soft buttons light up and if i pull the smart pen out it vibrates as it acknowledges it has been taken out, and I can hear the occasional vibration notification as an email, twitter update, or some other notification comes in. So - it "seems" like it is on. But I can not get it to do a forced boot and a few other things seem not quite right.
Anyway - Thanks for the help everyone!
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That's strange that you can't see the drives when connected to the computer. If you look really closely though it could just be the backlight not turning on when the actual lcd is turning on. If you really need to see whats on the screen and try to find a way to send the files to yourself or upload them somewhere you can try taking a screenshot while the tablet is connected to the computer and check the screenshots folder to see what is on the screen at a certain time. I know it could take a while, but if what's on the tablet is really important it could work. Best of luck.
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That's strange that you can't see the drives when connected to the computer. If you look really closely though it could just be the backlight not turning on when the actual lcd is turning on. If you really need to see whats on the screen and try to find a way to send the files to yourself or upload them somewhere you can try taking a screenshot while the tablet is connected to the computer and check the screenshots folder to see what is on the screen at a certain time. I know it could take a while, but if what's on the tablet is really important it could work. Best of luck.
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I tried to see if there was anything vaguely showing but the screen is totally black as far as I can see. I have a service ticket open with Samsung and will send it back for repairs. I would prefer repair over replacement as I would hate to lose all the stuff installed. I generally trust repairs as my philosophy is that they tend to pay better attention on the repair than the assembly line.
Thanks for all the help everyone!
You should definitely try getting it repaired or see if it's possible to copy the data to an external storage prior to getting a new one.
As a general rule I always have Google Drive take automatic backups and store what I can on my external SD to prevent any loss of important work.
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That's strange that you can't see the drives when connected to the computer.
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Don't you have to unlock the device for the drives to show up on the PC? It's probably waiting for the lock screen to be cleared.
Gamul1 said:
I have the new Galaxy Note 2014 edition tablet, as does my son. My son came home today with his tablet and told me the screen no longer turns on. He said he was playing a game with a friend when the screen flickered and then went dark. Nothing seems to bring it back online.
Tried to press the power button and volume up button for a forced reboot. Most times does not but it did reboot once and stayed black.
Also tried pressing the power button down while pressing a finger on the screen, apparently a solution to sleep of death or something. I can't tell if that does anything - if anything it seems to turn it off or something because it has become unresponsive after doing that.
Any thoughts on what to do next?
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The same thing happened to my Note 2014 and returned for a replacement as there is no other way around this.
Bulbous said:
Don't you have to unlock the device for the drives to show up on the PC? It's probably waiting for the lock screen to be cleared.
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This is what I am thinking - that it is sitting at the lock screen. I tried to see if I could unlock it by touching the screen in the right places but I guess when the screen is dark its not just dark but not functional. I figured as much but thought I would try anyway.
sheepybach said:
The same thing happened to my Note 2014 and returned for a replacement as there is no other way around this.
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Well - its going back this morning for either repair or replacement. I would prefer repair to save the apps and data and work. Nothing irreplaceable but its a royal pain to reset all this up and my son had significant game experience on the device that might be nice to save.
Either way - it will just be nice to get it working.
Just wanted to follow up with the results. Got notification from Samsung yesterday that they repaired my device and it is on its way back. They replaced the LCD screen and the battery. All free and in warranty and coming back 2 day air.
Not sure why they replaced the battery. I wonder if the battery takes a beating because of 1 game that we play - Bloons TD5. It tends to drain the battery from full to empty in about 30 - 45 minutes. Any other game or function we do the battery last many hours. I wonder if that damages the battery long term?

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