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Hello there xda-devs!!
I own an htc desire A8181 (amoled i think) and i fell into the temptation to root it. The problem is that i updated OTA into 2.2 froyo and my hboot now is 0.93.00001 on which the unrevoked method wont work (at leat for me it did not, as it showed : "validation error: backup cid is missing" ). I have installed the modified drivers and my desire is unbranded. I was hoping to find a method to root without losing any data or settings and since everyone showed as an alternative hboot downgrade and custom rom, so i thought " what if i downgraded hboot but i did not flash a new rom ", but the question is "is it possible?"
As you may have figured out, i dont know much about rooting/flashing etc, although i have some experience from flashing kaiser and some others, but i am willing to learn. If anyone could give me a hint/link/suggestion or solution to my problem it would be gratefully appreciated
PS thank you in advance and sorry for my english
dexter93 said:
Hello there xda-devs!!
I own an htc desire A8181 (amoled i think) and i fell into the temptation to root it. The problem is that i updated OTA into 2.2 froyo and my hboot now is 0.93.00001 on which the unrevoked method wont work (at leat for me it did not, as it showed : "validation error: backup cid is missing" ). I have installed the modified drivers and my desire is unbranded. I was hoping to find a method to root without losing any data or settings and since everyone showed as an alternative hboot downgrade and custom rom, so i thought " what if i downgraded hboot but i did not flash a new rom ", but the question is "is it possible?"
As you may have figured out, i dont know much about rooting/flashing etc, although i have some experience from flashing kaiser and some others, but i am willing to learn. If anyone could give me a hint/link/suggestion or solution to my problem it would be gratefully appreciated
PS thank you in advance and sorry for my english
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AFAIK, the latest unrevoked works fine with the 0.93.00001 - quite sure I read this in one of the threads.
Read these links for detailed info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788044
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
That's where I started my reading..
Cheers!
never mind.
cthdesire said:
AFAIK, the latest unrevoked works fine with the 0.93.00001 - quite sure I read this in one of the threads.
Read these links for detailed info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788044
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
That's where I started my reading..
Cheers!
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Thanks for the quick response! Actually these posts were the first that i read when i first thought of rooting and i believe that i have correctly followed the steps of the how to for the unrevoked (version 3.22 straight from the unrevoked site) and i tried twice on different computers(both running win xp home x86). As for the alternatives on benko's tut, none of them supports OTA 2.2 froyo...
After thought and some reading, I decided that I will downgrade to 2.1, root using unrevoked and then flash to prerooted froyo. Actually, since the point is not to lose settings or data, does anyone know a safe way to back up everything and restore them to the new rom?
I have the same model as you mate and the latest unrevoked worked for me, I downloaded the one straight from their website.
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Had you also updated OTA with froyo? If yes then why doesn't it work for me? I am sure that the phone is unbranded. Maybe it's something else and not hboot? My current specs are:
*Hboot:: 0.93.001
*Radio: 5.11.05.27
*Rom: 9.29.405.2 (got the update a week ago)
The only thing that I did not follow in the unrevoked guide, was that I didn't select hboot while loading the drivers, because I could not, no matter how many times I pressed the volume down button.I just waited for it to change to usb plug. Could that be the problem?
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Something else I noticed the first time I tried with unrevoked, was that in the revoked window it showed "triumph" for a moment and then it rebooted for the last time and then it showed "validation error..". Strange is that it never showed it again not even on the 2nd or 3rd try...What could that mean?
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583
Might be relevent
EddyOS said:
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583
Might be relevent
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Thanks for the tip, but this is about BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON while my desire is PVT1 SHIP S-OFF and it says that these are able to root but not flash a Rom, while I can't even root.. and the errors do not match..
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If you're S-OFF now then you don't need to root - if anything you might be already!
As you hadn't said anything about the rest of the HBOOT I thought I'd mention it but I'm on 0.93 and can root with no issues
And what does it mean? I am already root and I don't know it? And why does then the unrevoked method not work and where is the superuser app?
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If the Superuser app isn't there then you're not rooted, so that clears that up...
Go read the S-OFF thread in Development and post a query on there. It sounds like you may have a facotry unlocked bootloader which is extremely rare but best go and confirm it in the forum
Ok. I'm going now. Thank you Eddy and the others for your great help
*forgot to mention: the s off I wrote was after the failed tries with unrevoked(before I hadn't noticed if it was on or off) also the phone was destined to be a demo in a store*
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mine was a branded t-mobile one
PVT-3 Ship S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
Radio-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010
try installing the HTC sync drivers and then remove HTC sync and try again.
If possible switch to Ubuntu and root, its much better.
I have already installed the HTC sync drivers and removed the HTC sync, but I will try reinstalling..You think that through Linux it might succeed?
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[edit]: tried again in windows removing reinstalling etc. and in slax live cd. Still no luck as the "validation error: backup cid is mising" wont stop appearing
[Second edit] I'm root now. Followed turkeys' tut
Hi I recently tried using unrevoked 3.22 and it really didnt seem to work as I got a "validation error: backup cid is mising". However after a reboot I found myself in clockworkmod recovery, so that part seemed to work. However straight afterwards I tried to start the phone, I discovered had no access to SD card and any attempt to access phone via USB also gone, it seems Bluetooth is also gone. However I got the SD card back again using FASTBOOT, has anyone got any ideas how I could possibly get USB back?
Hello cletus. I may not know the solution to your problem, but usually posting some further info about your device(HBOOT, radio etc) and the exact steps you made before that problem, might help someone that would like to help
I really hope that you find a solution to your problem
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cletus69 said:
Hi I recently tried using unrevoked 3.22 and it really didnt seem to work as I got a "validation error: backup cid is mising". However after a reboot I found myself in clockworkmod recovery, so that part seemed to work. However straight afterwards I tried to start the phone, I discovered had no access to SD card and any attempt to access phone via USB also gone, it seems Bluetooth is also gone. However I got the SD card back again using FASTBOOT, has anyone got any ideas how I could possibly get USB back?
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Hey there! Found a solution: usb brick fix guide
G'day peeps,
I really didnt want to post this. Ive scoured for hours and hours though and although Ive found lots of downgrade threads from Gingerbread to Froyo the reported Radio version is always different to mine. As is the software version.
So heres my predicament. I (stooopidly) upgraded to Gingerbread but want root access!
The only way I can see me being able to get root access is if a downgrade is possible?
Here's my phone report
HTC Desire (NOT HD)
Android Version 2.3.3
Baseband Version 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23
Build Number 3.14.405.1 CL96875 release-keys
Software Number 3.14.405.1
I believe my Hboot to be 1.06 or something.
Do I have any chance at all? And if so where can I find some destructions?
Thanks guys
http://revolutionary.io
You can root gingerbread, go to revolutionary.io
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Thanks guys. I had actually bookmarked http://revolutionary.io as a possible.
Im very pleased, now I have performed an entire backup and flashed cyanogenmod v7 (stable)
Runs like a dream and vrey customisable too
Now Ive a few more questions?
I am interested in trying out a few more roms to find the "one" I think I could be happy with for a while.
Heres are the roms Im interested in:
Virtuous Unity v2.35.0
Uncommon Sense
Sense-o-Villain
and very interested in TwoPointTwo
However, Warm for example states I need to download radio/wiimax updates.
Other roms have similiar requirements. Like a CM7 Hboot rev2 etc.
I've tried to work our if its safe or not for me to instll any of these and as far as I can tell it isnt.
Thanks again for all the help
Unable to downgrade
I tried all methods of downgrading but there is no success. But I have successfully rooted my HTC Desire running 2.3.3 with revolutionary.io method + CWD + su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.
Is there anyone in this world downgraded Gingerbread to Froyo?? I also have the same radio version 5.17.05.23 , but whenever I try to downgrade it says "main version is older update failed".
dssenthil said:
"main version is older update failed".
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what is the ruu that u used?
if u want a froyo rom, just flash a rom from the recovery
if u want go back to stock froyo (why u should do this? u need warranty?) then fastboot flash the bravo downgrader hboot from alpharev.nl then the froyo ruu
Teppic74's downgrader used to downgrade 2.2 to 2.1 regardless of Hboot. The only thing it needed was temp root which it did for you.
Obviously the exploit used to root Froyo no longer works in GB, but if it already has root, it may work.
Heres the thread.
Although there is some question about erase size 40,000 devices so I would keep an eye on this thread for information purposes rather than jum,ping in and breaking things
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256&page=69
andQlimax said:
if u want go back to stock froyo (why u should do this? u need warranty?) then fastboot flash the bravo downgrader hboot from alpharev.nl then the froyo ruu
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Does that work? will that allow an older Hboot to downgrade?
rootSU said:
Does that work? will that allow an older Hboot to downgrade?
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its reported to work millions of time..the bravo downgrader is a 0.93 hboot..and the last froyo ruu has the same hboot version...
anyway when u have s-off, with fastboot u can flash every hboot u wish (its not like the ruu, there is no check in fastboot flash command)
I tried that myself and it failed due wrong bootloader version.
Terepin said:
I tried that myself and it failed due wrong bootloader version.
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mean u can't fastboot flash an older hboot over a new one? which were ur hboots?
the bravo downgrader hboot from alpharev doesn't have a downgrade protection, over that u can run every ruu to overwrite it, thats what aplharev say
Hi there can you please post step by step procedure as i am not high tech person. But i want to root my htc desire 2.3.3 and my phone have same configuration that you posted in your first post.
Please post procedure to root htc desire.
Thank You.
Prashant!
manjifera said:
Hi there can you please post step by step procedure as i am not high tech person. But i want to root my htc desire 2.3.3 and my phone have same configuration that you posted in your first post.
Please post procedure to root htc desire.
Thank You.
Prashant!
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all u need to know is here
http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/index.php/HTC_Desire (u can skip the step about installing adb anyway)
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
http://revolutionary.io/
in summary the steps are:
-uninstall htc synch totally, and install the drivers in the guide above
-download revolutionary tool with the beta key
-run it, plug device, inser key..choice to install the recovery also
thats it..u are s-offed, after that install super user from recovery to have root (in the guide above is described how to)
HI Guys, i have the same phone information mentioned before and i tried revolutionary tool but it's failed, i don't know where is the mistake.
I got the key, debugging mode is enabled and HTC Syn is disable in PC.
please help me to S-OFF. Thanks on advance
zezo911 said:
HI Guys, i have the same phone information mentioned before and i tried revolutionary tool but it's failed, i don't know where is the mistake.
I got the key, debugging mode is enabled and HTC Syn is disable in PC.
please help me to S-OFF. Thanks on advance
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failed mean? any error?
Thanks for quick response, the problem was solved by change the windows from 7 to XP. Also I downgrade to 2.2 with ORIGINAL AUU
now i need to know how to swatch security to be ON.
zezo911 said:
the problem was solved by change the windows from 7 to XP
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10char
Right similar issue i have got gingerbread want to downgrade, done s off, u tried froyo rom flashed it using virgin mobile to what provider im on, it flashed bur phone stuck on a black screwn with 2 white lines at either side of the screen.
When i press power and vol down the boot is still revoultionary one, i tried again no joy, i teuee doing the s off but said its already done do.u want to install somerhing cant remember might be clockworkmod, anyway tries but soon as it says downloading.bravo it disconnects the wifi.
I got fed up as thought bricked my phone so flashed with gingerbread from htc website that wenr on ok, checked.boot still revoultionarys.
So where am.i ar now i canr downgrade to froyo, rom wont boot and its proper virgins rom for froyo, i see in green recovery but.didnt do.it as wanted gb off, please help
My solution do downgrade 2.3.3 to 2.2
vyeshaun said:
Do I have any chance at all? And if so where can I find some destructions?
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I had the same problem, the only solution that worked for me was this:
1. do your backups
2. use revolutionary.io to S-OFF and CWM
2. get
Code:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe
3. run it and let it downgrade the Android to 2.2
4. root using unrevoked 3 (not able to use external links yet, google it up)
Hope it will help
Quillin said:
I had the same problem, the only solution that worked for me was this:
1. do your backups
2. use revolutionary.io to S-OFF and CWM
2. get
Code:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe
3. run it and let it downgrade the Android to 2.2
4. root using unrevoked 3 (not able to use external links yet, google it up)
Hope it will help
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you forgot to mention to flash the downgrader before flashing the 2.2 RUU..
Newbie and really need help please !!
Hey guys hope your are all doing great .. !!
I am a newbie here .. and i am sorry if i am asking this question in the wrong category .. but i really really need your help .. i updated my HTC desire bravo to 2.3.3 from 2.2 .. but now i can't downgrade or root it .. i have tried rooting it with Revolutionary .. i tried every single step , i gave the right Hboot version : 1.002xx... this is what happens after entering my beta key .. first it says
Root acquired
Sending Caroline ..
Retrieving Caroling from certain doom..
Retrying Caroline
Caroline failed ! but had this to say : An error occurred while writing partition
Errors if and :>
mtd:not writing bad block at 00x00020000
mtd:not writing bad block at 00x00020000
mtd:not writing bad block at 00x00020000
mtd:not writing bad block at 00x00020000
mtd:not writing bad block at 00x00020000
mtd:not writing bad block at 00x00020000
and then closes .. i really need help please
Hi all,
I want to say, that I've read many of articles/tutorials of what I'm trying to do. Anyway I'm trying to install Cyanogene mod (ROM ? ) to my HTC Wildfire. I've downgrade it before from Froyo to Eclair (for some reasons ). I was trying to root it with Unrevoked but it doesn't work. I also try Revolutionary but it doesn't work too ! Anyway I'm trying to install ClockWorkMod Recovery now . I've install it via ROM manager, but it doesn't work (seems it's installed but stock recovery is enabled ). My HBoot version is : 1.01.0001 . S-ON (I think S-OFF should help but I don't know how to disabled it ). I'm getting crazy with this.
Please help me anyone.
Greetings.
Unrevoked will not help u and it is necessary to s-off ur mobile...
What exact procedure u adopted for using revolutionary?
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unrevoked
Thx for reply.
I know that I should have s-off before I use unrevoked but I can't figure out with it. I ran unrevoked and also revolutionary on two platforms : Linux and Windows xp. I just enabled usb debugging in my htc and then pluged in phone, and then ran unrevoked/revolutionary as root.
Anyway is there only hardware method to gain s-off on wildfires ?
Greetings
Go to revolutionary.io or just Google it....download window platform file and fill up the form...do it cautiously while entering ur mobile serial no. Which can be found on the mobile box....copy the no. Generated...it is alphanumeric known as beta key...now plug ur mobile to window pc debugging mode on of ur mobile....run revolutionary and when ask enter beta key cautiously not mixing letter o with number zero...press enter u will have s-off...many user had get s-off with multiple time use of software
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I tried it mamy times but I fot following error: " failed to root ". Every time...
Dude you have to get S-OFF using Revolutionary or get S-OFF using an XTC Clip hardware box. If you don't, no matter how many variations or versions of Unrevoked you try, you will ALWAYS get an error.
3xeno said:
Dude you have to get S-OFF using Revolutionary or get S-OFF using an XTC Clip hardware box. If you don't, no matter how many variations or versions of Unrevoked you try, you will ALWAYS get an error.
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Yea, but revolutionary doesn't work and I can't figure out why. I heard about xtc clips, but it's expensive tool. Anyway how you 3xeno get s-off ?
Greets
I got via Revolutionary. And if you put proper details, it may be possible for members here to help you. You know, simply saying "It doesn't work" doesn't enable anyone to help you in anyway. There can be 1001 reasons why something doesn't work.
Ok, so what info do you need ?
Here is some details which I know :
HBoot version : 1.01.0001
Android : Eclair 2.1 (downgraded from Froyo 2.2)
Phone : HTC Wildfire (Buzz)
I think that's all info about my phone. Anyway I tried to use revolutionary from 2 different PC's on Linux and also on Windows (Win 7 and XP , Linux was Ubuntu jaunty jackalope and natty narhwal ). I'm getting following error an every time : "Failed to get root ;< " , on every try.
Post everything you get on the Revolutionary Screen. From the start to the end, for a beginning. "Failed to get root" on Revolutionary? It still sounds like you are using Unrevoked.
i can be silly at this point and sorry for that bt did u installed android windows driver before running revolutionary???
Ankurcul : yes of course
Anyway I finally get S-OFF with Revolutionary tool whitch is realy working
I shouldn't downgrade my android to 2.1 - that's the point. That's revolutionary couldn't take s-off. I've upgraded it to 2.2 (Froyo) again and revolutionary works pretty nice
I've also installed cwm recovery , and I'm going to install cyanogene .
Thank you all for helping me
Nb : I've got help on revolutionary irc.
k...just hit thank button if u really found me helpful lol...
Of course I've installed them
Anyway I finally get S-OFF with Revolutionary tool. I get help from Revolutionary team on their irc . I want to thank you all for interestig in my problem and for helping
I'm installing Cyanogene mod on my HTC Wildfire right now
Gud....
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Unrevoked 3 program gets stuck at "Waiting for root...”
I have been trying to root my device for last 3 days .I have done enough research and gone through various forms .
Following the guide ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145035 ) successfully got my device S-OFF using Revolutionary .
In step 2 : according to guide downloaded and tried
“RUU_Buzz_HTC_WWE_1.14.405.2_R_Radio_13.45.55.24_3 .35.15.31_release_130814_signed_2”
Got stucked with non-working touchscreen.
Again downloaded and tried “RUU_Buzz_Froyo_hTC_Asia_WWE_2.24.707.1_Radio_13.5 5.55.24H_3.35.20.10_release_161113_signed”
Now touchscreen is working but it is showing android 2.2.1 again .So what's the point of downgrading ?
Run Unrevoked and it is unable to gaining root.
It shows :
Running preboot seq….
Waiting for reboot…..
Running root…
Waiting for root…..( I have waited for 20 mints but it keeps saying this)
[ USB debugging is enabled
Usb drivers are installed
Android Bootloader Interface is listed under Android Phone. ]
After all this mind boggling i have reached here :
Android 2.2.1
Revolutionary
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.01.1002
MI CROP-0622
RADIO 3.35.20.10
Should I use different version of unrevoked ? 3.31 ? here..( http://theunlockr.com/2010/09/20/how...evoked-method/ )
But again in guide “androidybloidy” says in step 3 :”Download the test version of unrevoked (here). Let me repeat, DO NOT USE UNREVOKED 3.32 as it will lead to CID errors or to be precise this error
"Validation error, backup CID is missing".”
What to do now ? Do I need to downgrade to 2.1 éclair to use revoked ? Do I need to download Éclair RUU for India ? If “yes” where can I get the download link ? Some forums say I don’t need to if I have already got S-OFF.I am totally lost.
Now I feel like tearing my hair out.
Any ideas ? How can get around it?
Any help would be appreciated.Thanks in advance.
I wanted to try the method suggested by “3xeno” on #83
http://joel5121.blogspot.com/2011/06...-tutorial.html
but under “clockwork recovery” the link to “fastboot tool “ redirects to http://htcdev.com/ and there is no tool like “fastboot tool” on that page.Again the download link to “recovery for wildfire”in step 4 is broken.
What should I do ?
Should I follow this ? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1130044
Is there a way out ?
feel like throwing my HTC out the window:confused:
SOLVED
Finally installed ClockworkMod recovery and Rooted the device.
are you trying to put a custom rom on the phone or just root it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12188132&postcount=15 follow this guide to put a custom recovery on it, follow method 2.
now, if your going to flash a custom rom just do this from your new recovery and your new rom will have been pre rooted. (well, it should be ) if not then im pretty sure that there is a flashable superuser zip that will give you root once you`ve s-offed but i cant remember where i saw it but i think tht would be youe best bet without having to downgrade again.
how did you make it work cause im having the same problem
yeah if you said its working how did you make it work :was it using the non-test version or did u try something else
If you want to de-brand (downgrade Hboot from 1.01.0002 to 1.01.0001), root or flash I have a comprehensive guide to do that
It's in my sig
Hey dude,
How did u finally resolve that?
I'm stuck at "waiting for root" .
HTC wildfire.
Thanks in advance!
I´ve used the unrevoked 3.32 and it worked perfectly.... Maybe you should give a try.
waiting for root
optimusodd said:
feel like throwing my HTC out the window:confused:
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hey dude ow did u do that i am also getting waiting for root many times what should i do i am hardly waiting to root m wildfire
Mine says "failedto get root. Is your firmware too new?
helloankur said:
hey dude ow did u do that i am also getting waiting for root many times what should i do i am hardly waiting to root m wildfire
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Hi am new to xda. I am tryingto root my htc wildfire so that i can free up my internal memory.
Ive run unrevoked3 on linux.
Mine says "failed to get root. Is your firmware too new?"
any help?
abhishekmalyala said:
Hi am new to xda. I am tryingto root my htc wildfire so that i can free up my internal memory.
Ive run unrevoked3 on linux.
Mine says "failed to get root. Is your firmware too new?"
any help?
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I got that message, so i used superoneclick root and it worked perfectly straight away, you should try it out buddy :fingers-crossed:
Rooted my phone, am now on cyanogenmod and just installed xda...
Loving cyanogenmod
I think it is high time HTC starts releasing it's phones with stock cyanogenmod!!!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda app-developers app
hi, I just got DHD instead of my old Desire, which I rooted with no problems. I am not novice, and I wouldn't ask you all for help, but i really don't know, how to downgrade it. I found some tutorials, BUT THEY DON'T WORK!!! I dont know why, but when i'm trying flashing PD98IMG.ZIP via bootloader, after checking PD98IMG.ZIP, it says "error, main version is older"... I have GOLDCARD and i have always follow the instructions!!! precisely!!!!!
When i try downgrade via cmd and adb, after checking those things, it says no # but $..and thats wrong!!!
visionary or gingerbreak dont work with this version, i think...
Android 2.3.5 ; HTC sense 3.0 ; software number 3.13.110.4 ; radio 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M
please help me.
Michael
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After some research, I found, that advanced ace hack kit is still ready to use. AAHK method worked fine for me.
VIZ: http://tau.shadowchild.nl/files/aahk-12062012.zip -->effen manual!!!
Do you got S-OFF?
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda premium
Try downloading one of the RUUs from here. Just boot your phone to the bootloader screen and plug it in then run the correct one for your phone. If you can boot into a ROM you can also do that, then plug in your phone, and run the RUU. It will give you all the instructions. BTW codename for HTC Desire HD/Inspire 4G is ACE. So get one of those RUUs:
Edit notice I can't post outside links cause I'm under 10 posts.
Just google "Shipped Roms HTC Ace"
Muikkuman said:
Do you got S-OFF?
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No I dont. I thought I can not have s-off without root. such as on desire.
Etdude: trying now, will edit with results.. thanx 4 now
btw downloading this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879375
EDIT:/// CAN NOT FLASH ANY OF RUU's
Try this ruu http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...60.29_26.14.04.28_M_release_225512_signed.exe
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