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Seriously, lol..
I am coming from a CE device and going to android is a little bit of a learning curve.. Not that its harder but its different obviously.
What I am asking basically.. All these guides that are written out talk about things as if we already know them..
Don't get me wrong, they are written great, but I don't know certain lingo.. For example I am really wanting to install a ROM.. Just got my evo a few weeks ago, Rooted it and thats it.. Looking into Roms and reading the instructions, its like "WHATTT??"
Sure they explain how to do it, but they don't explain in detail certain steps.. It happens as many people assume they should know..
For example (and they are all like this)
I am looking at the FRESH'S rom.. Seems like a good Rom from what I read, but looking at the instructions for just the Radio
http://geekfor.me/faq/flash-radio/
2) Boot in to RA and pick “Flash zip from sdcard”
RA?? What is RA??
Before these instructions it says "Don’t flash this unless you have a CDMA Evo 4g"
I am sure most people know what CDMA is, but I don't.. Have no Idea, lol
I am basically hoping there is a guide "FOR IDIOTS"
Thanks all
ra is a recovery, you can have either clockworkmod or amon_ra, they both do the same so its personal choice.
cdma is type of network, ie sprint, verizon, cricket. gsm is the other, ie att etc.
now that your phone is rooted, make a backup before anything else. you boot into recovery by turning the phone off, then give it 5 secs then hold Volume down button and then pressing the power button, when it responds you can let go. wait for img file checks to finish then press volume down once to highlight recovery and press power to select. you will now be in recovery. go into nandroid and make a backup.
you can use rom manager from the market to flash many roms however the fresh and damagecontrol links are currently erroring.
before flashing any roms be sure to wipe data and cache either in recovery if done manually or by checking the box in rom manager
Anyone wanna help a fellow brotha out and make a quick 10 bucks.. Lunch money at least.. Just to call me and maybe walk me through some of it, or atleast verbally explain some things
Paypal will be done right away..
Id really appreciate it..
install rom manager, you can make a backup through it. its an automated app, tell it what to do and it will boot into recovery and do it then reboot again
Have Rom manager.. I just did a "boot into Recovery" I then did a nandroid backup.. But why? I did this with Titanum.. How many back ups do I need? This is where I get confused..
I did a couple things with Titanuim and it took like 600 megs of space, now I am doing what seems like the same thing with nandiod back up?
Now, do I just unzip both the fresh rom and the radio, put it in a folder on my Sdisk, open rom manager, choose manually install or whatever it says, and point it to the unzipped Fresh Rom??
If yes, then how do I do the radio?
THANKS
Also, I know my apps will be gone by doing a root, and I could just download then again,,, (correct??)
What about my contacts and pictures and videos??
THanks
you don't unzip the rom, and you shouldnt need the new radio, put the fresh zip on your sd card and in rom manage tell it to flash it and check wipe data and cache.
you can always redownload your apps from the market, purchased ones stay purchased
no loss of pics or vids. sd card isnt wiped
you can check your current baseband version and if its the same then your already set
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Have Rom manager.. I just did a "boot into Recovery" I then did a nandroid backup.. But why? I did this with Titanum.. How many back ups do I need? This is where I get confused..
I did a couple things with Titanuim and it took like 600 megs of space, now I am doing what seems like the same thing with nandiod back up?
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Titanium will backup your apps and app data too if you want. When flashing a new ROM you can download titanium from the market and then restore all of your apps.
Doing a nandroid backup in essence takes a snapshot of what your phone looks like at that point in time (apps, user preferences, theme, etc) and saves it. At any point later on, after trying different ROMs, changing settings, etc you can revert to that nandroid backup and restore it. Doing so will bring your phone back to that exact state when you performed the nandroid as if you never did any of the changes afterward.
And a lot of your questions can probably be answered in the post linked in my sig.
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Titanium will backup your apps and app data too if you want. When flashing a new ROM you can download titanium from the market and then restore all of your apps.
Doing a nandroid backup in essence takes a snapshot of what your phone looks like at that point in time (apps, user preferences, theme, etc) and saves it. At any point later on, after trying different ROMs, changing settings, etc you can revert to that nandroid backup and restore it. Doing so will bring your phone back to that exact state when you performed the nandroid as if you never did any of the changes afterward.
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Thank you for explaining that.. MAkes sense now..
Also.. You say I don't need a new radio, but the main Fresh Rom post, says I "SHOULD " get the new radio, (which he posted) and install that before or after..
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I did?
you would install the radio after, manually in recovery. leave it zipped too, put it in an easy place to get, like the root of the card.
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I did?
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I said it mark, I was assuming OP had all current updates which include the radio
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And a lot of your questions can probably be answered in the post linked in my sig.
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Did you write that? its really the best I have come across.. Thanks!! I am on my way.. Its in the middle of the rom install..
Wish me luck
I still need to find out if I should install the "Recommended" Radio or not..
THANKS GUYS!!
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I said it mark, I was assuming OP had all current updates which include the radio
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Well.. I have all the current (Sprint/Evo) updates.. But nothing from aftermarket..
Phone just rebooted.. Here we go
Oh one more thing..
If I feel to revert back to stock and use the "nandroid" back up, will it back up the radio I had then too??
Looks Like I am done... That was nice and easy (thanks to Rom manager)
I am now going to install the radio that was recommended.. Can I use Rom manager for that too??
in TitaniumBackup (tiB) ... go to Batch .. Backup all user apps
(i would suggest purchasing tiB. the paid version is MUCH faster and you won't have to click on each app to restore it. i also like that you can create a flashable zip file for your backup. ie: an update.zip file. it's under the the "More" section.)
i would suggest using Amon_RA as your loader. here is the thread to review it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026&highlight=amon_ra
do a nandroid. (don't forget to copy a nandroid onto your computer once in a while...having ur nandroid exist only on ur sdcard sux if you lose ur phone or ur card melts)
- between ROMs..do a full wipe. (ie: From Fresh to BakedSnack or CM6) just do it. it will save you stress and irritation. it will also help you streamline your recovery process and develop overall familiarity with the system.
- when upgrading a ROM (ie: Fresh 3.1 to Fresh 3.1.1 or 3.2) usually you can just wipe your Cache and DalvikCache (always read the FirstPost of your ROM ... some times you need to full wipe)
- Flashing a kernel can have significant impacts on your device. always flash Cache and DalvickCache. always have a good nandriod ready. always be plugged in or have >50% battery. always in this case means...not technically "Required", but don't cry to me if something goes awry.
the tiB will restore your applications but not settings. some apps like launcherPRO OR adw.Launcher or SMSbacup+ etc will allow you to export your settings. then you simply import your settings when needed. usually works quite well.
the nandroid is more like a 'Ghost Image' we use on computers. it will allow you to recover your devices almost 100% to the point it was when the image was taken. similar to tiB but diferent. tiB backups up the apps. nandroid backs up the whole system.
check this thread for Radios... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
yes, you will flash the radio zips in the recovery console as well
this is a combo zip and should work fine http://www.mediafire.com/file/ry3k8....00.09.01_WiMAX_26023_R01_PRI_NV_1.77_003.zip
OK.. Now that I have FRESH ROM.. I would like to get a theme.. Right? Isn't this what most people do after a Root,Rom,Radio, Theme??
Thanks
Umm this is not good.. where are all my contacts? I was under the impression they would stay.. How do I get them back? I did a nandroid back up and a Titanium too.. Where did they go? Or should I just sync to my computer again?
Thanks
if your contacts are synced to gmail they will appear shortly after sync, if you have them on your computer you can sync them that way
once the radio is current you don't have to update it again, it won't be downgraded with flashing roms
i was looking around and found that evo n other android phone can dual boot so i wondering if some one can come up with dual boot for g2
You can just use nandroid if you want to switch. It's not too bad to test out and play between ROMs.
Stryder5 said:
You can just use nandroid if you want to switch. It's not too bad to test out and play between ROMs.
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i hate installing apps over n over.....
its more practical to use nandroid
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i hate installing apps over n over.....
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What are you talking about? You wouldn't need to if you backup the roms properly.
Why in the world would you want to dual boot? Just nandroid.
im just saying it would be cool to have cuz its call dual boot n something new to try.......u guys dont? thats fine.......i wish someone would tho
I don't think I'm performing nandroid backups properly either. I always have to reinstall apps like the OP. Can someone please tell me the right way? Thanks!
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Lol! what on earth are yall talking about? nandroid only works with the same type of rom you used previously. for example, using rooted stock rom then backup via nandroid then switch to CM and restoring doesnt work. you would have to flash back to rooted stock and then restore. you can obviously make multiple backups... one for each rom. but again... you have to be on the same rom... otherwise, the restore will seriously corupt your current rom.
I'm beginning to wonder if some even know what dual boot actually means, lol!
Thats why you do a wipe befor you restore from a nandroid backup
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Thats why you do a wipe befor you restore from a nandroid backup
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That doesnt really matter if you are using a different rom this time around especially a themed one. Sometimes it can help.... but if the rom is completely different like sense then to stock or CM, you gonna have issues no matter if you wipe or not. Are folks crazy? the system folder varies HEAVILY between different roms. sure you can TRY restoring just the data/cache/ext but that doesn't always work out right. Stick around, kid. You might learn something if you quit running you mouth
Calm down guys. . . . Nandroid works just fine. .
I have used it on an array of ROMs, Stock, Sense, CM . .It works. You just need to backup, then wipe and flash the ROM you want. If you want to go back to the other ROM, back up, then restore the one you backed up previously. You can even name them, you just have to change the folder name in the clockwork mod folder on your SD and look for backups.
Seems like there's a little confusion on how Nandroid works...I didn't understand it myself until recently. I'll attempt to explain how it works, if any experts think I got it wrong, please let me know.
Basically, Nandroid lets you backup your current phone's state (ROM, apps, settings and all) into a single save file that you can restore whenever you want. So as an example, let's say you install ROM X, but you want to try ROM Y. You would first make a Nandroid backup of your phone, then flash ROM Y. Then let's say after a day of playing around with ROM Y, you want to go back to ROM X, you would then make a Nandroid backup of ROM Y, and restore the Nandroid of ROM X. Your phone will then be exactly the way it was when you created the backup of ROM X, and at any time you want you can restore your ROM Y. In this way, you can bootup any ROM you've saved in the past, anytime you want. This makes Nandroid a fairly effective "multi-boot".
You might notice one slight pain in this whole process, the first time you use any particular ROM, you'll have to setup your phone all over again. This can be made easier if you use Titanium Backup, which is an app that backs up your apps and settings to your SD card. Then when you try out a new ROM, install Titanium Backup from the Market and use it to restore your apps and settings. If you're using the free version, this means tapping the screen twice for each app on your phone ("Install", "Done", repeat), but I noticed the paid version claims to have a "0-click restore" feature.
I hope this helps clarify some things.
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Calm down guys. . . . Nandroid works just fine. .
I have used it on an array of ROMs, Stock, Sense, CM . .It works. You just need to backup, then wipe and flash the ROM you want. If you want to go back to the other ROM, back up, then restore the one you backed up previously. You can even name them, you just have to change the folder name in the clockwork mod folder on your SD and look for backups.
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Lol! Thats what I've been trying to explain to them but they just want to argue with me for some reason. hahaha! They'll figure out on their own any way if they want to be stubborn about it. Heck, I was just trying to save them some frustration. oh well...
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Seems like there's a little confusion on how Nandroid works...I didn't understand it myself until recently. I'll attempt to explain how it works, if any experts think I got it wrong, please let me know.
Basically, Nandroid lets you backup your current phone's state (ROM, apps, settings and all) into a single save file that you can restore whenever you want. So as an example, let's say you install ROM X, but you want to try ROM Y. You would first make a Nandroid backup of your phone, then flash ROM Y. Then let's say after a day of playing around with ROM Y, you want to go back to ROM X, you would then make a Nandroid backup of ROM Y, and restore the Nandroid of ROM X. Your phone will then be exactly the way it was when you created the backup of ROM X, and at any time you want you can restore your ROM Y. In this way, you can bootup any ROM you've saved in the past, anytime you want. This makes Nandroid a fairly effective "multi-boot".
You might notice one slight pain in this whole process, the first time you use any particular ROM, you'll have to setup your phone all over again. This can be made easier if you use Titanium Backup, which is an app that backs up your apps and settings to your SD card. Then when you try out a new ROM, install Titanium Backup from the Market and use it to restore your apps and settings. If you're using the free version, this means tapping the screen twice for each app on your phone ("Install", "Done", repeat), but I noticed the paid version claims to have a "0-click restore" feature.
I hope this helps clarify some things.
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That was a perfect explaination! I hope that sheds some light for folks who didnt understand what I meant and I apologize for being annoyed. originally, I had thought the OP was talking about dualbooting with android/windows mobile or something... I didnt think about the possiblity of running two android roms. I see how nandroid was brought up now... yeah, thats kind of silly to dualboot with two android roms. but to each his own...
theXeffect said:
im just saying it would be cool to have cuz its call dual boot n something new to try.......u guys dont? thats fine.......i wish someone would tho
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i cant believe nobody agrees, i would love to have dual boot just like my my laptop with win7\ubuntu netbook remix. the iphone people are dual booting into android or Ios and thats kinda cool even if its not completly functional. Id rather dual than trying to restore back and forth. Good Call
I used the Nandroid method on the G2 to switch between SuperD's ROM and KingKlick's Eclair builds. It works and really does make a good "multi-boot." Also, I use MyBackup Pro to back everything up, and all the settings for the apps and the phone are saved.
veritasaequita said:
i cant believe nobody agrees, i would love to have dual boot just like my my laptop with win7\ubuntu netbook remix. the iphone people are dual booting into android or Ios and thats kinda cool even if its not completly functional. Id rather dual than trying to restore back and forth. Good Call
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Of course, I have to agree with you... There are several things that bother me about nandroid, which I say, is not a good replacement for dual-booting. With dual boot you can shut down your phone/computer and be able to switch between operating systems. I can use Windows 7 to play games, Ubuntu to code, and Mac OS X 10.5 for multimedia. I'm pretty sure that people don't backup Windows 7, wait for that to finish, then install Ubuntu on their computer, wait 20-30 minutes for it to boot up, then get to work(and I'm sure computers would be horrible if you needed to do that). But I'm just saying this so I can get into the conversation and actually get somebodies recognition so they can actually start working on a script for the G2 so you can dual-boot. I'm pretty sure that it's possible... but I'm not sure if there's anybody willing to do it.
Well that's accomplished by partitioning, on a pc.
whichever rom u install completely takes over the previous one, thus eliminating that previous rom. There would need to be some sort of partitioning mechanism,involved. to achieve the dualboot, wouldnt there?
correct me if i am wrong, but the hboot controls the partitions of the phones, and when the G1 needed a new hboot to be re-partitioned to allow for better bigger ROMs there were a LOT of bricks that took months to figure out how to fix, so if someone wants to try to flash the hboot from another phone(and risk losing their phone forever) then by all means have at it, but for the time being nandroid will have to do.
ok im kind of a bit of a noob to rooting but ive been at it a few months, i tried to flash a custom rom today (first time) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17235986 everything went fine i did all the wipes x3 and followed the instructions and it makes it to the revolution boot screen then loops back to clockwork recovery mod so before i bring it back to stock with odin in a few hours, is there ANY way to resolve this?
Could be a # of problems. Ill try to help after I get some sleep and get t work. I just didn't want you to feel stranded.
ive decided to go ahead and use odin and try to install another custom rom later. maybe ill have some feedback by then
now i just have a phone picture an exclamation point and a computer showing up
ok nvm i managed to get it back to stock. i do want to figure out what went wrong to begin with though.
Probably a bad flash or a bad download.... re download it and try again.... Does cwm show any hint that something went wrong with the installation?
At a quick read is says it auto converts you to EXT4 so as long as that went OK it may be what Theduce said. It could also be bad data. You may have to do a factory data reset before flashing if you have everything backed up and can restore your apps and stuff. Sometimes a reflash when you are in the boot loop will work. As a tester I often have to factory data reset after getting boot loops. Probably why my SD card is littered with backups.
i used titanium backup and backed everything up before i used odin, afterward i checked my sd card and it looks like everything is still there, how do i get it back? also if i cant get my backup back can someone give me a link to a one click root file my computer keeps reading the ones i have already as bad so it wont even run them
EDIT: ok so after reading yet another guide on flashing roms it appears i did do everything right, probably a bad rom like everyones guessing also, should i even try to reinstall this rom or just try and find another one? (any suggestions? im on EC05)
sephiroth009 said:
i used titanium backup and backed everything up before i used odin, afterward i checked my sd card and it looks like everything is still there, how do i get it back? also if i cant get my backup back can someone give me a link to a one click root file my computer keeps reading the ones i have already as bad so it wont even run them
EDIT: ok so after reading yet another guide on flashing roms it appears i did do everything right, probably a bad rom like everyones guessing also, should i even try to reinstall this rom or just try and find another one? (any suggestions? im on EC05)
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What rom? the file u have I would download a new copy of "said" rom check md5 and I bet u will find that the first rom zip file u have it bad.
As for TB and restoring ur apps and data. Just go in TB and restore user apps
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You will have to root again, download Titanium from the market and restore user apps. Redownload the ROM if you are dead set on trying that one. Once you know how to get everything working again after a failed flash the hard part is over. Just an inconvenience when stuff blows up.
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You will have to root again, download Titanium from the market and restore user apps. Redownload the ROM if you are dead set on trying that one. Once you know how to get everything working again after a failed flash the hard part is over. Just an inconvenience when stuff blows up.
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Way ahead of you XD. Rerooted, figured out titanium backup, and installed syndicate rom last night =P. E.R.A was just a bad rom/download I guess. As for zrom it was syndicate obviously >_>
odin is your best friend and its always good to make sure you back everything up
i havent been able to restore any backups for a while now, not an issue since im not as bad with the crackflashing addiction lol
well went to try a restore, didnt work-error while flashing boot img
tried advanced restore and got the same messge.
how do i check to see why it isnt working properly?
ive never been able to get an answer for this issue before so a little help would be awesome
reason i tried a backup, i did a flashover on cm7, and lost some(quite a few) of my pictures...so i tried the backup and got that crap again
so ya...not sure whats up
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i havent been able to restore any backups for a while now, not an issue since im not as bad with the crackflashing addiction lol
well went to try a restore, didnt work-error while flashing boot img
tried advanced restore and got the same messge.
how do i check to see why it isnt working properly?
ive never been able to get an answer for this issue before so a little help would be awesome
reason i tried a backup, i did a flashover on cm7, and lost some(quite a few) of my pictures...so i tried the backup and got that crap again
so ya...not sure whats up
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shouldn't your pictures have been on your sd card?
anyways, you didnt really give any helpful information as to what your problem is, but maybe you could try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714114
yes they were on my sd card, thats what doesnt make a lot of sense about it
and its not say md5 mismatch, i told you everything my phone said...all it says is "error flashing boot img"
if i had helpful info pertaining to this issue id be a lot closer to solving it...
Yeah, There shouldn't be an MD5 mismatch when your phone generated the MD5 to begin with.
I would suggest reflashing clockwork a few times from within ROM manager. It is the first option on the app which says "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery"
If that doesn't help your problem:
It shouldn't make a difference because ROM Manager is made by the CWM team but I would suggest trying to create a backup from within Clockwork and see if you can then restore the backup or even to just try restoring the backup you already made from within CWM rather than trying to use ROM manager. I've heard a lot about ROM manager having problems, so even though it takes a little more work you might want to take that route from now on.
In case you don't know how, all you need to do to get to clockwork is hold down the power button on your phone and then select reboot into recovery.
Once you're in recovery mode you need to select backup/restore using the optical joystick at the bottom of the phone to make your selections. When you make a backup from within clockwork you are unable to change the name before the backup is created but when you boot your phone up you can use any file manager to navigate to the clockwork/backup folder on your SD card and the bottom one should be the most recent because they are listed by date and then time that they were created.
I know it is a little redundant but it is always worth trying the easiest thing first before trying to overhaul your phone.
i dont use rom manager for anything...
i think im gonna try to complete reflash and re root and see what happens...kinda pissed i lost a lot of my pictures though
really confuses me...
try checking the internal flash memory, for some reason some of my pictures wind up there on accident sometimes. When you connect to your PC it is the third mass storage that shows up usually. I don't know how to access it from within the phone. and I apologize for the confusion but the title of the thread is "ROM manager issue" so that's what i thought you meant.
i tend to mistakenly call cwm rom manager since thats where i got it from
hey sorry if this has been brought up in other threads but im freaking out..
I flashed a 4.2 rom and got the sdcard/0 thing happening and then i copied everything from the duplicate folder over to the original folder..BUT when I originally flashed the 4.2 rom i think some stuff was deleted because i had certain apps there but not other ones and my music etc was gone..i think that i must have deleted something really important because now im stuck in a boot loop!! i've been stuck in a boot loop before but then i usually just reflashed my old rom and everything was good! this time it stays there forever and my computer wont even recognize it...almost everything is gone from my sdcard and there are no backups(even though i made one they are no where to be found)i have one rom on my sdcard that i can see and i know its worked before 100% and i keep trying to flash that one but its still boot looping even though i know this rom works for me...what could have been deleted and how can i get my phone back on?!? right now my phones out of commission but im sure you guys can find some solution..hoping anyways.. please let me know what i can do!
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hey sorry if this has been brought up in other threads but im freaking out..
I flashed a 4.2 rom and got the sdcard/0 thing happening and then i copied everything from the duplicate folder over to the original folder..BUT when I originally flashed the 4.2 rom i think some stuff was deleted because i had certain apps there but not other ones and my music etc was gone..i think that i must have deleted something really important because now im stuck in a boot loop!! i've been stuck in a boot loop before but then i usually just reflashed my old rom and everything was good! this time it stays there forever and my computer wont even recognize it...almost everything is gone from my sdcard and there are no backups(even though i made one they are no where to be found)i have one rom on my sdcard that i can see and i know its worked before 100% and i keep trying to flash that one but its still boot looping even though i know this rom works for me...what could have been deleted and how can i get my phone back on?!? right now my phones out of commission but im sure you guys can find some solution..hoping anyways.. please let me know what i can do!
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is it possible i deleted boot.img or something?? and if so, how can i get it back since my computer wont recognize it?
I think you lost your files, so next time make a back-up.
To do a clean install of stock follow the next guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895
I'm assuming you're able to get into fastboot-mode.
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I think you lost your files, so next time make a back-up.
To do a clean install of stock follow the next guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895
I'm assuming you're able to get into fastboot-mode.
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I made multiple backups they must have just been deleted! i fixed it now thanks for the help..now i know to keep backups on the computer lol is there an easy way to do that?
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I made multiple backups they must have just been deleted! i fixed it now thanks for the help..now i know to keep backups on the computer lol is there an easy way to do that?
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The only way to back-up ROM's is trough a recovery mod like clockwork. To back-up your apps and their settings use Titanium Back-up.