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hi all
i have a strange problem on my 1 day old note2
i have been playing with all the feature and have discovered a sort of dead area when using the pen
load up snote/memo or anything else using the pen
then on the right hand side when using the pen there is a square about 1cm in size that does not detect the pen when applying NORMAL pressure, using my finger its fine.. then to make it more odd if i apply i little more pressure it picks up the pen.. when applying pressure the line being drawn is more bold everywhere until i draw over the dead spot when it becomes a lighter line ie nor picking up the same pressure,,
i hope my very bad explanation is understood lol..
phone is 1 day old and i'm not sure if i have a fault or a bug
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Do you have a case on?
Zamizzle said:
Do you have a case on?
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yes.. small unobtrusive one
just tested without case and no problem
confused
is there a thread about this issue .. looked but cannot see
Does your case have a magnet on the side of where your S-Pen does not work?
It happened with me as well.
Zamizzle said:
Does your case have a magnet on the side of where your S-Pen does not work?
It happened with me as well.
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yup.. thats the problem
having more info in hand google was my friend
:Apprarantly this problem occurs if you use a case with a magnet. The area will correspond with the location of the magnet.Samsung’s user manual clearly states not to use it with cases that have magnets. People have also commented on how this effects the internal compass too. Prolonged exposure will apparently result in the internals getting magnetized – no way out then!
People have reported that even after removing the magnetic case, it take between 24-48 hours for the effects to disappear. .!:
very worrying
i wonder if there is a way to block the magnet in the case from effecting the note..
otherwise its throw out the new case
For me it depends on how i insert the pen back into the silo.
Button facing down = no problem
Button facing up = S-pen is looser, and lightly tapping the exposed part of the pen when inserted causes detachment recognition.
the tablet shows the "S-pen detached" even with the slightest outward movement of the S-pen,
which is only a problem when i insert the pen with the button facing down
Anyone one else having the same issue? (Should i exchange mines...?)
Is the S-pen suppose to inserted in a certain orientation only?
I dont have any of that problems
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I have this problem. Very annoying. It shouldn't be loose
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I dont have any of that problems
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ahhh, guess i'll go exchange mine then, thanks for posting and letting me know !
I have the same problem and for me it's no difference if the butten is facing up or down :/
Every time I press or hold the tablet next to the camera the pen is not recognized anymore. Very annoying if using it horizontally or just carrying it
SAME ISSUE HERE, but i have a solution !
It is the problem with to short pencil drawpoint, if i remove it and place it without fully pressing/locking inside the pen, the pen dedection will no fail !!!, i dont know yet how to extend it ??? (i'm sure a 0,5 mm or even 0,01 mm - will do)
if anyone have any idea please help ? can i place a bit of paper inside pen or it will **** the whole thing up ?
@Asmodat
that doesn't help for me. as soon as i bend the note a tiny little bit i get the s pen removed message. even if the lead is very loose
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@Asmodat
that doesn't help for me. as soon as i bend the note a tiny little bit i get the s pen removed message. even if the lead is very loose
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I know why it is not working for you (I forgotten to repost): That's because in my case extending the pen also stabilised it - thow it stopped going crazy.
Then i also noticed, that bending ... rather pressing the tablet in specific places fired the detatched message.
ANY WAY FOLLOWING SOLUTION IS 100% WORKING:
- The issue is to much loose in pen holder, so if the pen is not stabilized, even slightly move of pen or bend of tablet can detatch or reattach it.
TO FIX IT: Take the 2cm / 1inch piece of narrow transparent tape, then stick it below the silver head of pen.
I has to help, however it must be peace of tape of certain length not to long (you will not fit the pen in the holder), not to short.(it will not stabilise it).
Now I can do whatever I wont wyth my tablet, bent, press, etc - for me problem is solved, although i beleave some software code could easly fix it too, or disable the stupid feature.
Same problem.. The solution for me was to go to the service centre to get a new pen.
I'm having the same problem here. For me, it seems like this problem happened over time. I had this device for a month, and it's only the past week that I've had this problem. The slot for the pen seems to have loosened, and the pen slides out ever so slightly (still secure), but enough to be detected. It's very annoying, as I have a case with the sleep cover function, and the "pen detached" notification turns the screen on regardless of it being turned off from the cover. Battery drain while in bag FTL.
I'm wondering if there's a way to disable the feature altogether. I'm rooted, so I don't mind a rooted solution. I'd rather this than having to carry the pen separately, as the hole in the tablet will still be useful this way.
Had the tablet for 2 days and everything is perfect. There is 1 problem though, the S-Pen isn't loose, but when it's moved outwards like <1mm then the tablet will turn on because it thinks the S-Pen is detached. I compared this to my defective screen tablet that I have not yet returned and that one does not activate when moved even a millimeter outwards. I will be returning both these tablets because it will most likely get worse over time and get looser in the slot. I'm really disappointed at the moment and hoping the next replacement will be my last. If not I may just have to go with the iPad Air and get one of the expensive styluses for more precise input.
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Had the tablet for 2 days and everything is perfect. There is 1 problem though, the S-Pen isn't loose, but when it's moved outwards like <1mm then the tablet will turn on because it thinks the S-Pen is detached. I compared this to my defective screen tablet that I have not yet returned and that one does not activate when moved even a millimeter outwards. I will be returning both these tablets because it will most likely get worse over time and get looser in the slot. I'm really disappointed at the moment and hoping the next replacement will be my last. If not I may just have to go with the iPad Air and get one of the expensive styluses for more precise input.
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Even those expensive iPad styli aren't even close to the s pen experience.
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Even those expensive iPad styli aren't even close to the s pen experience.
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I agree, and I probably will not end up getting an iPad. I'm just kind of angry at Samsung at the moment and just saying things that'll make me feel better. Meanwhile, let's see how many returns it takes for me to get a tablet with no big problems. :silly:
I had the same issue. So I went to service station. they proposed to change s pen and the whole s pen dock which is attached to the screen Pannel. Now will be getting the replacements in 3 days. screen Pannel. According to them the s pen dock is attached to the screen Pannel. Now will be getting the replacements in 3 days. Hoping for the best. my S pen is very loose. It wasant so it was just loose on one side but after they opened my Note it became too loose. So its better to get a replacement.
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Had the tablet for 2 days and everything is perfect. There is 1 problem though, the S-Pen isn't loose, but when it's moved outwards like <1mm then the tablet will turn on because it thinks the S-Pen is detached. I compared this to my defective screen tablet that I have not yet returned and that one does not activate when moved even a millimeter outwards. I will be returning both these tablets because it will most likely get worse over time and get looser in the slot. I'm really disappointed at the moment and hoping the next replacement will be my last. If not I may just have to go with the iPad Air and get one of the expensive styluses for more precise input.
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Exactly the same thing with my P605. Went to Samsung service on Friday, January 10, and in less than one hour the problem was fixed, the s-pen's detection distance becoming ~2 mm. The s-pen position in silo doesn't matter (if it is introduced with the button toward the screen or to the back camera). I've tested also the s-pen with the sensitive tip removed, it keeps the same distance of 2 mm with or without tip. I've asked the lady from the desk for the technician that fixed my tablet to talk with him just 1 min to ask him what he did, she said that is forbidden. Than I asked her to tell me how the tablet was fixed, she said that it was opened and the sensor was repositioned in the right place. I looked carefully with a magnifier if there are traces on the case, it looks like the case wasn't touched. By the way, they didn't specify anything on my guarantee certificate, and they didn't release to me any written paper concerning this problem and how they fixed it. My feeling is that the s-pen sensor's position was recalibrated digitally, using a hidden menu. Testing my s-pen in the demo P605 tablet from the showroom (inside the same Samsung service building), the tolerance was ~1.5 mm. Hopefully this information will be useful to anybody experiencing this annoying thing.
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I'm having the same problem here. For me, it seems like this problem happened over time. I had this device for a month, and it's only the past week that I've had this problem. The slot for the pen seems to have loosened, and the pen slides out ever so slightly (still secure), but enough to be detected. It's very annoying, as I have a case with the sleep cover function, and the "pen detached" notification turns the screen on regardless of it being turned off from the cover. Battery drain while in bag FTL.
I'm wondering if there's a way to disable the feature altogether. I'm rooted, so I don't mind a rooted solution. I'd rather this than having to carry the pen separately, as the hole in the tablet will still be useful this way.
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I would love to see this as well. Maybe there's something like turning off home button wake in /system/usr/keylayout/gpio-keys.kl ? Like OP, the issue is improved greatly when the S-Pen button is facing toward the back of the device.
BTW, where the hell is the ROM development on this device. I haven't seen a ghost town like this on a Samsung device since the Behold II.
warrantary worked
now i had to sent my device to the support for some reasons as well and they managed to fix the problem. they didn't replace the s pen and it still feels quite loose in the silo but there are no detached messages anymore!
they had to open the back because they changed the battery, so i can't say if they fixed the sensor or if it was a software fix
I have fixed it by myself (just because I had no warranty for some reasons)
It is hardware problem and can not be fixed by firmware, so, if you want, go to service.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2619474
I've noticed a skewing while using the stylus near the border of the bezel. Lets say 2cm in. First I thought it's because of a parallax effect and respectively the mismatch upon where you actually hold the stylus and what you see on the screen. But then i made a test with a ruler, drawing straight lines across the screwn. Here the effect is clearly visible on aforementioned areas.
This is particularly annyoing if you annotate on the sides of a pdf as in trying to follow the skew, you screw up the handwriting to no avail. Does someone else also have this problem or can try to replicate it?
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I've noticed a skewing while using the stylus near the border of the bezel. Lets say 2cm in. First I thought it's because of a parallax effect and respectively the mismatch upon where you actually hold the stylus and what you see on the screen. But then i made a test with a ruler, drawing straight lines across the screwn. Here the effect is clearly visible on aforementioned areas.
This is particularly annyoing if you annotate on the sides of a pdf as in trying to follow the skew, you screw up the handwriting to no avail. Does someone else also have this problem or can try to replicate it?
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I just noticed I also have this problem, when I turn the cursor to make it visible it off-set in certain area's. Anyone have this who had it replaced?
Is this not caused by a case having magnets that are too powerful
If neither of you have cases then obviously a fault.
i thought all devices have this problem, mine does and the one at best buy did too. I have a case but it's foldable and the magnets are not near the case when the device is stood up. It's minor, but it's there.
So, who doesn't have this issue when then test the edges using a straight edge.
Just tried it right now and noticed it happens on my tablet too. I'm pretty sure these aren't isolated cases and all the tablets do this. The surface pro 2 which uses the same digitizer also does this.
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I'm not using a case and it also happens on my tablet.
So we have here 3 different opinions. Once classified as a defect, once as a cause of using magnets in a case and twice to be normal behaviour. Thx all for testing it out. On my part, I confess to have used a preliminary sleeve with magnets on the closing flap. Though only for two weeks and I'm not sure if it is causal as making permanent "damage". I now use a 360° case with no magnets.
The magnets are not near the area it happens and I also noticed it's not necessarily isolated to the sides There are a couple spots closer to the middle that it occurs on also. Is this classified as a defect covered by the warranty?
Also, as far as the magnets go does it generally happen only when the magnets are close or is it that once a magnet got close once the problem will always be there?
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The magnets are not near the area it happens and I also noticed it's not necessarily isolated to the sides There are a couple spots closer to the middle that it occurs on also. Is this classified as a defect covered by the warranty?
Also, as far as the magnets go does it generally happen only when the magnets are close or is it that once a magnet got close once the problem will always be there?
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From what we know so far it's not supposed to do any permanent damage.
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I am a new user of this tablet, and I can assure you, it's not caused by magnets or cases. Mine arrived a couple of weeks ago, and due to some mail incidents, the case and other accessories that I bought for it haven't arrived yet.
So, I have been storing it on its box, on a table that is away from any electronic device or magnet, and it has this issue. I have noticed it most prominently on the included SketchBook app. That leaves us with 2 options: An issue that is inherent to this tablet/digitizer or a widespread bug.
Happens for me too. But very faint, like a few pixels. I think the touchscreen driver could use an update... There are other issues with it as well as you can see in this forum..
So, I noticed a dead spot about the size of a nickel on the right hand side of my screen while using the s-pen this morning. I did a search and decided that I would have to exchange the phone (and hope not to get a refurbished one return). Decided to show my wife and suddenly realized the problem (and the solution). I have the phone in a wallet case with a magnetic clip. Well it turns out that if you fold the magnetic clip around to the back side of the phone to get it out of the way then the s-pen will not work on top of it (duh).
So take this as a heads up. Careful with magnets near the screen while using s-pen.
PEACE!
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Thank you so much for posting this. Been trying to figure this out for days and was going to return the phone. This was my exact issue.
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So, I noticed a dead spot about the size of a nickel on the right hand side of my screen while using the s-pen this morning. I did a search and decided that I would have to exchange the phone (and hope not to get a refurbished one return). Decided to show my wife and suddenly realized the problem (and the solution). I have the phone in a wallet case with a magnetic clip. Well it turns out that if you fold the magnetic clip around to the back side of the phone to get it out of the way then the s-pen will not work on top of it (duh).
So take this as a heads up. Careful with magnets near the screen while using s-pen.
PEACE!
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OOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH i can't believe i missed that. Thank you sir, i've been factory restoring my device for a month now repeatedly as, in between some restores, the screen becomes active. Turns out that was because i took off the cover at those times!!! This is lovely! All fixed now, Note EDGE BTW.
You know, there should a fund for people like you! I had almost the same problem, but for added stupidity, the manufacturer of my case had hidden a magnet inside of the back of the phone, to keep the flip lid in place on the back. Took me a lot of effort and a lot of insulting conversations with the cellphone store clerk where "sometimes it works" being an ingredient.
I have how completed the easy part; using a scalpel to open the side of the case to remove the magnet.
Now to swallow my pride and go down to the phone store and explaining that "you were right, there is nothing wrong with the phone, this cheap knock-off case that I bought online is the problem". She should bill me for the hours spent trying to satisfy me, so that I could forward the bill to the online store.
God I feel stupid. And arrogant! And thankful!
Thank you. Explains some random things I see, depending on how I'm using my case. Had magnets I didn't even know about...
wow thanks.
Rectangular S Pen dead zone near bottom of screen-different, but similar cause fixed
This feed led me to the cause of my issue but it wasn't a magnetic case. I experienced this issue after installing a new battery from Energy Pal (extended life and NFC). I was able to correct my issue by placing a few strips of electrical tape and folded piece of aluminum foil between the battery and the upper part of the battery compartment (covering that raised rectangular area). I was super pleased to be able to use the entire screen area again.
Well done!
I haven't used the spend much since I got my new Note. Just laying in bed playing around with it and noticed the big deadspot in the center of the screen.
Just starting to get angry and decided to do a quick Google.
Never would have occurred to me it was the Steelie magnet on the case causing the issue!
Well done XDA. Saved the day again.
Beherrschen said:
So, I noticed a dead spot about the size of a nickel on the right hand side of my screen while using the s-pen this morning. I did a search and decided that I would have to exchange the phone (and hope not to get a refurbished one return). Decided to show my wife and suddenly realized the problem (and the solution). I have the phone in a wallet case with a magnetic clip. Well it turns out that if you fold the magnetic clip around to the back side of the phone to get it out of the way then the s-pen will not work on top of it (duh).
So take this as a heads up. Careful with magnets near the screen while using s-pen.
PEACE!
Sent from my SM-N910P using XDA Free mobile app
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So, I've owned every single version of the Note. Prior to owning the Note 4, I've only lost on S Pen and that was the one on the original Note 1. To this day I have no clue how I did it, but I lost it. Never came close to losing another since. However, in the five months I've owned the Note 4, today marks the second time I've lost the damn S Pen to this device! It seems like the enclosure for the pen on this version of the Note is really shoddy and much less secure than other versions. Many instances of my pen randomly popping on with a slight fall and such.
The first time I lost the S Pen, it was because—as stupid as this is—I had taken my case off the phone and somehow, the process of taking the case off slightly dislodged the S Pen from its housing. I had no idea this had happened. I was on the subway train preparing to exit and AFTER I had exited the train with the phone in my hand, my S Pen alert went off. That's when I realized the expensive S Pen was MIA! Apparently it fell completely out of its housing once I started walking, How absurd! I was able to purchase new OEM S Pen for cheap during the holidays, and I've been paying close attention to it ever since. As stated, there's been several times since that I've had to push the pen back in its housing because it had loosened itself. Very concerning.
Today, I had existed a vehicle with bags and I forgot I had my Note on my lap. When I got up, the Note fell on the ground face up. I didn't realize anything was wrong until I walked about 10-15ft then my S Pen alert went off. That's when the elusive S Pen was once again missing in action! I searched everywhere and could not find that damned thing! I don't know if someone actually picked it up in that short amount of time or what, but it is gone! Has anyone else had or noticed this problem?? Never had my S Pen dislodging itself on the Note 1, 2 or 3. This has me pissed! Now I have to spend money I really don't have at this time to purchase another one of these damn pens because I really do use mine quite often.
ive only had my note 4 for about 2 months but my s pen has yet to fall out yet. knocks on wood.
Both scenarios are have happened to me on all of my notes...and the pen has sometimes come dislodged/fallen out.
NEVER has the pen ever fallen out during normal use.
Sorry you've had such issues but i can say that I've dropped by Note 4 a few times from pretty high up and the pen has never fallen out.
Edit: the only thing I can think of is maybe people who use the pen more, will cause more wear on the sides of the pen so it doesnt stay as snug in the holder? I dont use my pen nearly as much as other people so the pen stays nice and snug.
Interesting. Never had issues with the S Pen. One thing I noticed and want to confirm with you guys... on the Note 3 you could push the S Pen in slightly and it clicks out on a spring. Push it back in and it locks in place. On the Note 4 it doesn't seem to have a spring in it. Is that normal?
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ive only had my note 4 for about 2 months but my s pen has yet to fall out yet. knocks on wood.
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Yes, usually it has to be (for me) some sort of abnormal circumstance. In just normal use, I've never had an issue. But if I drop the phone or like I said... taking a protective case off, I've noticed my S Pen easily becomes dislodged.
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Both scenarios are have happened to me on all of my notes...and the pen has sometimes come dislodged/fallen out.
NEVER has the pen ever fallen out during normal use.
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Same with me except this issue has only arisen for me using the Note 4. I've never used a case on any of my other Notes, so I'm sure that's one big reason why this issue has been foreign to me until now,
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Sorry you've had such issues but i can say that I've dropped by Note 4 a few times from pretty high up and the pen has never fallen out.
Edit: the only thing I can think of is maybe people who use the pen more, will cause more wear on the sides of the pen so it doesnt stay as snug in the holder? I dont use my pen nearly as much as other people so the pen stays nice and snug.
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That could be an issue too. Normal wear from more usage. Still, it's very concerning. Seems like my pen dies to pop out whenever it can.
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Interesting. Never had issues with the S Pen. One thing I noticed and want to confirm with you guys... on the Note 3 you could push the S Pen in slightly and it clicks out on a spring. Push it back in and it locks in place. On the Note 4 it doesn't seem to have a spring in it. Is that normal?
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It seems to me like the s pen on the Note 3 was much more secure. I seem to remember a more of a "clicking" into place on that phone. On the Note 4, seems like it just slides in but it's not really "locked" in, not that it ever was, just more-so noticeable on the Note 4.
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It seems to me like the s pen on the Note 3 was much more secure. I seem to remember a more of a "clicking" into place on that phone. On the Note 4, seems like it just slides in but it's not really "locked" in, not that it ever was, just more-so noticeable on the Note 4.
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No. What I mean is on the Note 3 you push it and it clicks out a little bit for easier retrieval. Kind of like a regular ballpoint pen. When you push the button on the top down once the ballpoint appears. Push it again and it slides back inside the pen. That's what the S Pen on the Note 3 did. On the Note 4 it doesn't do that. That's what I'm trying to figure out if that's normal and made like that or do I have a defective spring?
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AFTER I had exited the train with the phone in my hand, my S Pen alert went off. That's when I realized the expensive S Pen was MIA!
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I didn't realize anything was wrong until I walked about 10-15ft then my S Pen alert went off. That's when the elusive S Pen was once again missing in action!
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Has anyone else had or noticed this problem??
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I haven't had a problem with the S Pen falling out on its own (though I've only had my phone a short while), but I have noticed that the S Pen alert barely ever fires. I think the alert could be a great feature, but I don't trust it based on my experiences so far. Interestingly, if I walk away with the S Pen in-hand, the alert never fires. If I walk away with the phone in-hand, it sometimes fires. I don't know if that behavior is intentional, or if its just random and I'm seeing a pattern that's not really there. At any rate, I think that the S Pen alert would be better if it was more sensitive. It might have helped you find yours in the two scenarios that you described above.
On a related topic, I was thinking of proactively getting a second S Pen, with the expectation that I'll probably lose the original at some point (or, more likely, break it from chewing on it; it's pretty flimsy). I was going to use the discount code that Samsung emailed me when I registered my handset, but the bloody thing is $30! I know that I can get one cheaper elsewhere but, Just out of curiosity: Is there some magic in the S Pen that makes it expensive, or is the cost pure hype?
Sounds like your problem is your case. I had the pen fall out when I remove the back cover on occasions. Other than that it's in there and doesn't pop out.
Don't know if I'd call it magic, but I tried two different oem (NOT Samsung) s pens. Garbage. I finally knuckled and shelled out for the real thing as a backup. The cheap ones either didn't fit in the holder, didn't react with the phone correctly, or both.
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So, I've owned every single version of the Note. Prior to owning the Note 4, I've only lost on S Pen and that was the one on the original Note 1. To this day I have no clue how I did it, but I lost it. Never came close to losing another since. However, in the five months I've owned the Note 4, today marks the second time I've lost the damn S Pen to this device! It seems like the enclosure for the pen on this version of the Note is really shoddy and much less secure than other versions. Many instances of my pen randomly popping on with a slight fall and such.
The first time I lost the S Pen, it was because—as stupid as this is—I had taken my case off the phone and somehow, the process of taking the case off slightly dislodged the S Pen from its housing. I had no idea this had happened. I was on the subway train preparing to exit and AFTER I had exited the train with the phone in my hand, my S Pen alert went off. That's when I realized the expensive S Pen was MIA! Apparently it fell completely out of its housing once I started walking, How absurd! I was able to purchase new OEM S Pen for cheap during the holidays, and I've been paying close attention to it ever since. As stated, there's been several times since that I've had to push the pen back in its housing because it had loosened itself. Very concerning.
Today, I had existed a vehicle with bags and I forgot I had my Note on my lap. When I got up, the Note fell on the ground face up. I didn't realize anything was wrong until I walked about 10-15ft then my S Pen alert went off. That's when the elusive S Pen was once again missing in action! I searched everywhere and could not find that damned thing! I don't know if someone actually picked it up in that short amount of time or what, but it is gone! Has anyone else had or noticed this problem?? Never had my S Pen dislodging itself on the Note 1, 2 or 3. This has me pissed! Now I have to spend money I really don't have at this time to purchase another one of these damn pens because I really do use mine quite often.
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Sounds like you need to stop dropping your device... Problem solved..
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Sounds like your problem is your case. I had the pen fall out when I remove the back cover on occasions. Other than that it's in there and doesn't pop out.
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Yeah, the case was the problem because I replicated it more than once to troubleshoot the first incident. Afterwards, I decided not to use a case. The Note 4 is beautiful and I couldn't stand having it hidden under plastic. However, as I've stated, the pen has became dislodged on numerous other occasions when it really shouldn't have. That's the concern. I guess I wanted to know if any one else had a similar issue.
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mcmannion said:
I haven't had a problem with the S Pen falling out on its own (though I've only had my phone a short while), but I have noticed that the S Pen alert barely ever fires. I think the alert could be a great feature, but I don't trust it based on my experiences so far. Interestingly, if I walk away with the S Pen in-hand, the alert never fires. If I walk away with the phone in-hand, it sometimes fires. I don't know if that behavior is intentional, or if its just random and I'm seeing a pattern that's not really there. At any rate, I think that the S Pen alert would be better if it was more sensitive. It might have helped you find yours in the two scenarios that you described above.
On a related topic, I was thinking of proactively getting a second S Pen, with the expectation that I'll probably lose the original at some point (or, more likely, break it from chewing on it; it's pretty flimsy). I was going to use the discount code that Samsung emailed me when I registered my handset, but the bloody thing is $30! I know that I can get one cheaper elsewhere but, Just out of curiosity: Is there some magic in the S Pen that makes it expensive, or is the cost pure hype?
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I don't think even Samsung has a great deal of faith in that s pen alert based upon the way they describe it. I too have had iffy results on getting it to alert so a gave up on it. Also fearful of eventually laying it down and losing it I bought a spare and it sits in a drawer.
As for the cost.. You hit it on the head.. Pure hype. Accessories are almost always marked up 60-70%. But it's essential to those of us who really use it, so they feel safe in charging that much for it.
I too had the same problem. One day i dropped my phone and it hit the edge of the dresser & dislodged the pen only half way out befire it hit the floor and broke the pen in half at the S-pen button. The pen still worked though, so i put a piece of scotch tape about 2" long vertically up the pen to keep it together until i got a new one. I carefully wrapped the piece of tape centering it over the pen button and the 1/2 wide tape went around the pen 1 layer thick almost perfect. Low and behold the pen works perfectly and it always stays in without any issues ! .... Hope you try it : )
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I too had the same problem. One day i dropped my phone and it hit the edge of the dresser & dislodged the pen only half way out befire it hit the floor and broke the pen in half at the S-pen button. The pen still worked though, so i put a piece of scotch tape about 2" long vertically up the pen to keep it together until i got a new one. I carefully wrapped the piece of tape centering it over the pen button and the 1/2 wide tape went around the pen 1 layer thick almost perfect. Low and behold the pen works perfectly and it always stays in without any issues ! .... Hope you try it : )
erick161 said:
Both scenarios are have happened to me on all of my notes...and the pen has sometimes come dislodged/fallen out.
NEVER has the pen ever fallen out during normal use.
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My friend has lost several on all of his phones. He's very rough with stuff. I've had every note and still do to this day. Never had a pen pop out or lost, except my note 2 pen is gone. I loaned it to the friend and he lost it. Maybe change the settings to make a sound when it comes out.
Fixed loose pen with clear nail polish
I'd forgotten about this thread; thanks to the recent posters for bumping it.
Since my original post last year, in which I stated that I hadn't had problems with the S Pen falling out of my Note 4, the S Pen has become progressively looser to the point that it falls out on its own. I tried a variety of solutions to get it to stay in, and finally found one that works, and that seems to be durable, after about a month of usage:
I painted the tip of the pen with a few coats of clear nail polish.
Let me define what I mean by "tip" in this context. I specifically painted the:
o Sides of the pen (i.e. the smooth narrow edges, not the textured wide edges);
o Starting at the little grooves that hold the pen in the phone, and;
o Ending at the point where the body of the pen starts to curve towards the nib
I applied four, thin coats of nail polish, following the drying/recoating instructions on the bottle. Furthermore, I let the whole thing dry for two days before inserting it back into the phone, just to make sure it was fully cured. Lastly, I used a small file to clear any residue from the original grooves. I don't think that I actually got any nail polish in there, but I wanted to make sure that they were nice and sharp so the little hook inside the phone would catch the pen firmly.
So far, so good. The pen stays in firmly - at least as firmly as when the phone was new. The nail polish is intact and unscathed; it doesn't seem to be scratching or otherwise coming off inside the phone.
HTH, and good luck.
I must be lucky. In December this will be my daily phone for 2 years. My S-Pen has been tight and snug since the day I bought it. As far as dropping the phone, I've only dropped the phone really good once. Incidentally it was right after I stopped using a case because I had just purchased an extended battery. Alas, after that drop it crumpled my s-pen slot slightly making it even more snug. No luck at life, but by god this S-Pen is here to stay.
I fastened a 2 ft chain between my spen and phone. Biker wallet style! Haha j/k