[Q] Why are YOU obsessed with battery life on your SGS3? - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

Okay I have a question for the masses here. Why are YOU obsessed with battery life on your SGS3?
I've been through my fair share of cell phones with the latest 3 being the Galaxy S, SII and now the SIII. I've been through a long list of custom roms as well as time spent on stock roms and not once I have I installed a battery monitoring app like Juice Defender, nor have I been interested in undervolting or underclocking as I don't feel the extra battery life outweighs the instability of the phone and the time spend finding the exact perfect values to prevent reboots. As long as I have battery life to get my through the day (which I always have MORE than enough, I'm happy. I'm not a heavy user but my phone gets a workout during the day and I'm never far from a charger which is the awesome thing about having a USB connector to do the charging.
So I ask the question, what is the obsession with battery life? Are you trying to go green and get the most between charges as to not waste power recharging? Do you use your phone so much during the day that you can't make it through the school or work day without it going dead? Are you off the grid living in the bush and only get to charge when you are in town every couple days? Is it bragging rights you are looking for? Why did you spend big bucks to buy an extended battery? Why don't you use the phone the way it was intended to be used and turn off syncing apps just to save a bit of battery? Why do you turn screen brightness down to minimum and leave it there all the time when we have big beautiful screens that look so much better when they are correctly lit up for our surroundings?
I just find it interesting that every ROM thread and every kernel thread and a good portion of the threads in Q/A sections are littered with questions and discussions and arguments about battery life. How to get better battery life, why is my battery draining so fast on such and such rom, what is a good screen on time amount per charge. I don't understand nor can I find an interest in spending time to dissect and analyze everything just to squeeze an extra half hour of screen time out of my phone.
So why? Why are YOU so interested in the battery life of your phone. I'm not looking to make fun of anyone here. Just curious what the obsession is all about and why you are so interested. How does it make your phone or your life easier and better. Maybe I'm missing something.

Well for me, my battery life really sucked and didnt understand why so I started researching and i found out from stock you can do tweaks to improve it and so on and so on.
When I say my battery sucked on stock though it was really bad. I couldnt go a whole day. I would get about 10-15 hours of on time with less than a hour of screen time and my phone would be dead.
I dont care for going 2 days without a charge, I just wanted to go morning to night and still have some juice left. which i wasnt able to do before.

flexfulton said:
Okay I have a question for the masses here. Why are YOU obsessed with battery life on your SGS3?
I've been through my fair share of cell phones with the latest 3 being the Galaxy S, SII and now the SIII. I've been through a long list of custom roms as well as time spent on stock roms and not once I have I installed a battery monitoring app like Juice Defender, nor have I been interested in undervolting or underclocking as I don't feel the extra battery life outweighs the instability of the phone and the time spend finding the exact perfect values to prevent reboots. As long as I have battery life to get my through the day (which I always have MORE than enough, I'm happy. I'm not a heavy user but my phone gets a workout during the day and I'm never far from a charger which is the awesome thing about having a USB connector to do the charging.
So I ask the question, what is the obsession with battery life? Are you trying to go green and get the most between charges as to not waste power recharging? Do you use your phone so much during the day that you can't make it through the school or work day without it going dead? Are you off the grid living in the bush and only get to charge when you are in town every couple days? Is it bragging rights you are looking for? Why did you spend big bucks to buy an extended battery? Why don't you use the phone the way it was intended to be used and turn off syncing apps just to save a bit of battery? Why do you turn screen brightness down to minimum and leave it there all the time when we have big beautiful screens that look so much better when they are correctly lit up for our surroundings?
I just find it interesting that every ROM thread and every kernel thread and a good portion of the threads in Q/A sections are littered with questions and discussions and arguments about battery life. How to get better battery life, why is my battery draining so fast on such and such rom, what is a good screen on time amount per charge. I don't understand nor can I find an interest in spending time to dissect and analyze everything just to squeeze an extra half hour of screen time out of my phone.
So why? Why are YOU so interested in the battery life of your phone. I'm not looking to make fun of anyone here. Just curious what the obsession is all about and why you are so interested. How does it make your phone or your life easier and better. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Actually, battery life can have quite a few hours difference depending on your settings, apps, kernel settings and ROM you run. So yes, it does matter if you can get 3.5hrs on screen instead of 1.5hrs.
People don't want to have to carry their charger with them all the time in fear of their phone dying on them in the middle of the day.

For me it is just the simple fact that I can run my phone for almost 2 full days without a charge (not kidding either). But I would venture to say that for most, it is because of the whole reason why many are here. We're Tweakers and no I don't mean Meth addicts. We do it because we can. I don't undervolt at all but I do overclock my kernels a bit (not max) but have found a really nice balance that will give me plenty of time using my phone and not having to worry about charging. Yup, I use my phone.
I smile to myself when I see these screen shots and the line is smooth and flat. Not sure if you are a skier or not but a good analogy is if you see a Double-Black Diamond (expert/steep), there is something wrong. If you see a Blue-Square (intermediate/nice slope) then you are good to go. Green-Circle (begginner/very low gradiant) means that noting is running.
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I feel the same as the OP. I don't OC/UV for pretty much the same reasons. I don't care. I have run Juice Defender in the past on stock setting values because I was basically lazy and didn't feel like tweaking the sh*t out of it to get the "best" battery life. Not to mention I don't like that it literally turns off your cell radio and initializes it in incremental intervals. I have actually been running an app called One Power that is free on the Play Store and have found it does improve my battery life mostly when my device is idle. But I, like you, am hardly obsessed with getting the best battery life. I don't use extended batteries because I hate how they make the phone twice as thick and I tend to avoid anything non-OEM for obvious reasons. I'm basically happy if I can get through a day on a single charge. I do have a 2nd OEM battery I keep charged in case I don't have time to fully charge up. Our expectations of getting days worth of use on a single charge is just ridiculous and unrealistic. If I cared that much I'd switch to Verizon and get a RAZR Maxx. But that ain't happening anytime soon! Besides, not all phones are created equal so - what works for one person may not work for another. I feel discussions of battery life in ROM development threads are a waste of time and serve only to clutter and detract from development of the ROM. Apps, use, etc are huge variables and will vary greatly from one user to the next. So, when people say "battery life on this ROM is great!" I usually roll my eyes and ignore the post.
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t3chn0s1s said:
... I have actually been running an app called One Power that is free on the Play Store and have found it does improve my battery life mostly when my device is idle. <SNIP> I feel discussions of battery life in ROM development threads are a waste of time and serve only to clutter and detract from development of the ROM. Apps, use, etc are huge variables and will vary greatly from one user to the next. So, when people say "battery life on this ROM is great!" I usually roll my eyes and ignore the post.
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Hey, can you shoot me a PM with more about that App. I'll check it out tonight but can you give me more info on it from a real-life user and not some Market desc/review.
Also, report those stupid posts in the Dev threads and we can delete those. I saw one the other day about 5 hours after a ROM came out (new thread and all) stating that the battery life was "Awesome!!!". How in the heck could you know after 5 hours of the ROM being posted (he was not a tester either), let alone being flashed. Rediculousness.

Woodrube said:
Hey, can you shoot me a PM with more about that App. I'll check it out tonight but can you give me more info on it from a real-life user and not some Market desc/review.
Also, report those stupid posts in the Dev threads and we can delete those. I saw one the other day about 5 hours after a ROM came out (new thread and all) stating that the battery life was "Awesome!!!". How in the heck could you know after 5 hours of the ROM being posted (he was not a tester either), let alone being flashed. Rediculousness.
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Sure. I just use the default settings the app comes with but you can tweak it to your liking. Will send you a PM shortly.
Edit: I couldn't agree with you more on the battery life postings 5 hours after a ROM has dropped. That's absolutely ridiculous and impossible to gauge so soon. You gotta give it at least a couple days to be able to accurately judge the battery life.
Sent from my Nexus 7

t3chn0s1s said:
Sure. I just use the default settings the app comes with but you can tweak it to your liking. Will send you a PM shortly.
Edit: I couldn't agree with you more on the battery life postings 5 hours after a ROM has dropped. That's absolutely ridiculous and impossible to gauge so soon. You gotta give it at least a couple days to be able to accurately judge the battery life.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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to use the app, root is mandatory? i didnt root my phone, i installed the app, and it shows all the required settings, but when I try to customize, it needs root, my question is, if we use the existing mods, i can use the app, without rooting the device. right?
TIA

atrix4nag said:
to use the app, root is mandatory? i didnt root my phone, i installed the app, and it shows all the required settings, but when I try to customize, it needs root, my question is, if we use the existing mods, i can use the app, without rooting the device. right?
TIA
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Yes. My dad uses the app on his unrooted Galaxy Nexus with no problems. You just can't tweak the settings unless you have root.
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t3chn0s1s said:
Sure. I just use the default settings the app comes with but you can tweak it to your liking. Will send you a PM shortly.
Edit: I couldn't agree with you more on the battery life postings 5 hours after a ROM has dropped. That's absolutely ridiculous and impossible to gauge so soon. You gotta give it at least a couple days to be able to accurately judge the battery life.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Well it didn't take long for even this thread to turn into people discussing how to get better battery life out of their phone! haha. Figures eh?

I work a blue collar job so I need my battery to last all day. I'm not at a desk whee I can charge.......
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My friend lost his son and since his phone didn't have juice, he couldn't call 911 fast enough. Had to plug in the charger for like 2 mins first. That's why.
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I'm generally indifferent about battery life and attempts to prolong it for 2 reasons.
1. The settings and customization done by the manufacturer are stable values tested and balancing between battery life and the features of the phone.
2.Everyone know what they're getting jnto when they buy a phone with ~4 inch screen,has LTE and top of the line features. It's rather obvious that battery life won't be great, if it isn't then you might as well just go back to the candy bar phones, if you expect the best and the newest AND battery life.I certainly didn't expect my phone to run for 10+ hours when I got it... and besides buying the best phone on the market and then turning everything off to conserve battery life just defeats the purpose. Just buy an extended battery, buy the extra battery OEM and bring a spare along, or have an external charger as well as a 2amp usb charger.
Edit: When I initially got the phone, it was getting 6-8 hours on a charge after a couple of months 12-14 hours per charge. The same thing happen on the JB OTA, Im getting between 10-18 hours depending on my Reddit, Twitter, Gmail and Engadget usage, though I have to admit there are sometimes problems with some apps preventing deep sleep and occasionally what seems to be memory leaks with apps constantly using the data connection.
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I like pushing it to see how far the battery can go. I could make it through the day before, but with some compromises. I bought an extended battery and flashed a new rom (which came with some good kernel settings to mess with), and now I can keep everything on and go two days without a charge.
For me it's more about getting what I'm used to--recently switched to gs3 from an iPhone 4, which had amazing battery life. I got around 8 hours screen on with that and initially only 3 with the gs3. So I tweaked away and now it's back to what I expect!
Edit: also I tweaked my way to better battery life because I can--why settle for something that could be better?
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Ughh battery drain definitely too fast.

I feel like I make a thread for each phone I go through. First Blackberries, then Droid X, now Galaxy Nexus.
I am getting pretty horrible battery drain that is definitely worse than others' Nexuses. I have gone to the extended battery now for a few days, yet in the morning, when I unplug from charger (says 98% but charged?), with brightness only a quarter of the way up from lowest, I can literally watch the percentage (battery number mod in corner) drop one-by-one each minute or a few...So if I am actually using the phone, you can imagine it drops pretty fast. Yesterday, with very very moderate use the phone was still dead within 5-6 hours. It was at the mid-80s within an hour or more. Again, with moderate use.
It is stomach-dropping watching the percentage number just go down and down. Yet my friend's Gnex using the extended battery his first day did not hit 85% yesterday until 5+ hours later. The battery stats page on mine shows nothing with high numbers except Screen and Android OS, so I assume no apps are draining it. I am rooted with unlocked BL, on bigxie's deodexed ROM with softkeys mod, battery percentage mod, and power menu mod. I have 100-something apps and many widgets but no battery draining/updating ones. Others with the same ROM report fine battery.
I believe after using the ext. battery for a couple days, it should be "conditioned" if needed at all, yet I see no improvement.
I'm getting very angry watching this drop.. For example, 40 minutes off the charger with almost NO use except for turning the screen on here and there, I am at 94% battery with Screen at 46%, Android OS at 34%, Phone Idle 11%, Cell Standby 9%, and Android System 2%.
And then 1 hr 20 min in, at 88% battery with 55% Screen, 27% Android OS, 6% Phone Idle, 6% Cell Standby.
This doesn't sound normal right? Keep in mind, those numbers are with almost no phone use..very minimal settings menus visited and one update from Market.
Jesus, literally almost every time or two I turn the screen on just to check these numbers, I see the damn battery percentage drop a number. Not even using the phone how/as much as I normally would be. This is infuriating. Luckily, it doesn't seem to drain much with the screen off.
Quit checking and wait til the bug is fixed and blood pressure stabilizes?
Crazy world, ay?
Update to 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 with an improved kernel = success.
Use the phone for 1-2 weeks to stablize battery life - mine is better now than it was when I began using it. But the kernel/rom makes a big difference.
Thanks. Any suggestions on with combo to use now? 4.0.3 preferrably I guess.
Then why does my friend on totally stock 4.0.2, non-rooted have that great battery life from the first day using the extended battery?? I'm pretty much basing mine off of his and other's who are getting ridiculously long life. I never understood how it varies SO much. We should all have the same relative to usage.
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Thanks. Any suggestions on with combo to use now? 4.0.3 preferrably I guess.
Then why does my friend on totally stock 4.0.2, non-rooted have that great battery life from the first day using the extended battery?? I'm pretty much basing mine off of his and other's who are getting ridiculously long life. I never understood how it varies SO much. We should all have the same relative to usage.
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No. Because no two phones are set up the same. Too many variables to say relatively same usage. For instance, when i go to bed i get 2-3 hours standby per percentage point. Not everybody is going to get that.
Crazy world, ay?
@rbiter said:
No. Because no two phones are set up the same. Too many variables to say relatively same usage. For instance, when i go to bed i get 2-3 hours standby per percentage point. Not everybody is going to get that.
Crazy world, ay?
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Maybe, but the fact that I have no other visible outstanding draining factors, and I get no 4G at home and therefore have it set to CDMA only...I should not be seeing 1% drops almost every time I turn the screen on for more than 30 seconds. Especially with an extended battery.
God forbid I want to use GPS or 4G.
More battery life threads please.
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More battery life threads please.
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Wow, really? At first glance in all sub-forums I saw about two, if that. I have a legitimate concern, especially when my friend is getting about 4 times better life. Thanks for your help though in the device forum where this 'doesn't belong'.
..And over the course of only a few minutes of the screen being on maybe twice and sending one email, I saw it go from low 82-83 down to 77. ****ing awesome.
just4747 said:
Wow, really? At first glance in all sub-forums I saw about two, if that. I have a legitimate concern, especially when my friend is getting about 4 times better life. Thanks for your help though in the device forum where this 'doesn't belong'.
..And over the course of only a few minutes of the screen being on maybe twice and sending one email, I saw it go from low 82-83 down to 77. ****ing awesome.
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You probably have a misbehaving app. Download better battery stats from the android apps and games section here at xda and let it run for a day or so and see what processes are being used the most and what your wakelocks are, etc.
Also, find a 4.0.3 rom with a kernel that can be undervolted and try that out.
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You probably have a misbehaving app. Download better battery stats from the android apps and games section here at xda and let it run for a day or so and see what processes are being used the most and what your wakelocks are, etc.
Also, find a 4.0.3 rom with a kernel that can be undervolted and try that out.
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Thank you, downloading now and will check it out.
I'll admit I'm using the GSM version so my experiences may not apply but for the first few days my battery life was utter crap.
Its been MUCH improved over the last few days, I dont have the wakelock issue and with the screen off the battery drain is literally only about 3% per hour, and thats with background data on.
YES, the screen DOES use a lot of battery, it isnt really avoidable and is somewhat expected with a 720p 4.6 inch super AMOLED screen.
The one thing I can recommend doing is finding a modded kernel and undervolting that CPU - It seems they've been really rather generous providing power to the thing, I've been able to take off at least 100-150mv across the board.
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I'll admit I'm using the GSM version so my experiences may not apply but for the first few days my battery life was utter crap.
Its been MUCH improved over the last few days, I dont have the wakelock issue and with the screen off the battery drain is literally only about 3% per hour, and thats with background data on.
YES, the screen DOES use a lot of battery, it isnt really avoidable and is somewhat expected with a 720p 4.6 inch super AMOLED screen.
The one thing I can recommend doing is finding a modded kernel and undervolting that CPU - It seems they've been really rather generous providing power to the thing, I've been able to take off at least 100-150mv across the board.
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This - My battery on the stock battery on GSM sucked first few days, and I was really concerned I made a poor purchase. But with the screen on probably 5 or 6 hours of my work day it lives through the day and just enough to get home after that. I can charge it at work too, which I usually do. On my day off it survived 18 hours and still had ~20% battery life left on 4.0.3 AOKP/Francisco.Franco Kernel
From my experience, the battery life isn't bad. I did install the "extended" battery as soon as I bought the phone but is isn't much bigger than the stock battery. I am on stock rooted 4.02. With LTE off I use about 2% per hour in standby. With LTE on it is almost double that (3-4%/hour). I have several widgets running and gps enabled. (wifi when available) I can easily get a 16-18 hour day and have 50% remaining when I go to bed unles I sit around gaming for a couple hours.
I may try a new ROM tonight but I expect it will probably make things worse.
Im running a bone stock setup and im getting 12 -14 hours a day... normally I read posts like the one skiddingus posted and wonder why I never can achieve those readings so i feel your confusion . I do have 4g on and gps off screen is about 1/4 of the way up brightness wise

[Q] How to super Optimized Tmo Sammy S2 for best battery performace?

So I switched from the iphone with edge to the Tmo S2 with Jugg 5.0 ROM + Go Launcher. I really appreciate the 4g speed. However, the overall experience is not as smooth as the iphone and the battery life sucks big time. I normally have to constantly plug the phone in whenever I can. It works ok when I'm at work but when I'm out all day my battery won't last more than half a day. It's so bad to the extent that I have to turn off my phone and turn on when I need to call or text so I can keep the phone alive the whole day. I tried Juice Defender but it didn't help my battery at all.
Yesterday I spent a few hours on XDA and I came up with these solution to my battery problem:
+DarkSide Digital Warfare v2.7 ROM (couldn't find 2.5.1 version)
+Flash Synergy Kernel over (supposed to give better battery)
+SetCPU app (auto detection)
+Zeam launcher
So far, it seems to be better on the battery. Is there anything else I could add to make my battery last longer? I need the phone to last at least the whole day without charge. I'm constantly on 4g looking up stocks, reading news, email, google voice, grooveip, facebook, turn by turn navigation, music, netflix, youtube ...
Thanks,
Welcome to Android.
From what it appears, you seem to be a heavy user. The most you can get out of a Android device with heavy usage is 3/4 of a day (14-18hrs) tops.
You have 2 choices, either you travel with the power cord not to far away and plug it when you need it or you invest a whooping 10$ and buy another battery.
There are tricks to keeping your battery healthy but lasting all day as a heavy user will be very difficult.
If this is a new phone it takes a week or so for the battery to settle in a hold a charge well. After a week or so you'll notice your battery is lasting longer. Also make sure that nothing is keeping your phone awake 100%. Some apps don't play nice and cause issues. Welcome to Android.
Note: navigation kills battery fast, when your using it try to plug into a car charger or something.
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There are a lot of things you can do to improve battery.
1. Juice Defender (which you say you have already tried)
2. Limit the number of widgets you run or run no widgets like I do
3. Turn the screen brightness down all the way
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper, also, try to pick a dark coloured wallpaper since white/light colours seem to use up more battery.
5. Uninstall apps you don't use.
6. Turn off GPS unless you need to use it.
7. Turn off sync completely or only have your gmail sync. I don't need to be notified when I get a facebook message so I don't need it syncing every few minutes or every hour, I can check that manually myself.
8. Turn off animations.
9. Close background apps that are running that you aren't using.
10. Use Task Manager to close open apps when you are done using it. Task Manger is your friend.
11. Enable Power Saver Mode.
etc etc.
Those are the main things that I tend to do. I plug my phone in every night before I go to bed as well so I am not sure how long my battery actually lasts. But typically after 16hrs of use I still have 60% battery when I go to bed.
Currently my phone has been on for 7hrs 15mins and I have 87% battery. So you can do the math. I am not as heavy a user as you seem to be, but hope this helps. Peace.
Check out this video it helps show you how to save battery. Enjoy!
Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
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1. Juice Defender (which you say you have already tried)
2. Limit the number of widgets you run or run no widgets like I do
3. Turn the screen brightness down all the way
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper, also, try to pick a dark coloured wallpaper since white/light colours seem to use up more battery.
5. Uninstall apps you don't use.
6. Turn off GPS unless you need to use it.
7. Turn off sync completely or only have your gmail sync. I don't need to be notified when I get a facebook message so I don't need it syncing every few minutes or every hour, I can check that manually myself.
8. Turn off animations.
9. Close background apps that are running that you aren't using.
10. Use Task Manager to close open apps when you are done using it. Task Manger is your friend.
11. Enable Power Saver Mode.
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I'm up 5hr 45mins on battery and my battery is at 41%. Let's see if it will last for today. I will put Juice Defender in tonight to test out the battery tomorrow.
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Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
I'm up 5hr 45mins on battery and my battery is at 41%. Let's see if it will last for today. I will put Juice Defender in tonight to test out the battery tomorrow.
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You could run Juggernaut with Faux Kernel and Gideon's battery scripts. Or Telus T989D stock ROM lightly tweaked with same kernel and script. Got good results on those as well. Good luck.
Btw, has anyone had tremendous increase in battery life using the after market extended battery?
Thanks,
Use fox star rom
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Btw, has anyone had tremendous increase in battery life using the after market extended battery?
Thanks,
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If you are talking about extended batteries that don't require a custom enlarged back cover, you will not get the battery increase that you are looking for, not even close. I cannot speak for the heavy duty ones that require an enlarged back as I do not own one
Gideon's scripts are great with Juggs. Underclock it as well like 384-1080 is a great setting. Also let die all the way down and charge all the way up and repeat for a few cycles. And don't stare at your phone every few seconds either lol! Another thing are the notification lighting buttons at the bottom. Drop to 1.5 seconds.
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If you are talking about extended batteries that don't require a custom enlarged back cover, you will not get the battery increase that you are looking for, not even close. I cannot speak for the heavy duty ones that require an enlarged back as I do not own one
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I have the extended 3800mah battery. It's insanely fat and makes the phone look hideous. On top of that I really don't feel like the battery lasts all that long at all. It's in my pocket all day at school and by 3:30 I'm at 35%. This thing cost me 65$. Total ripoff. I'd suggest spending 20$ and buying two more regular batteries. See what that does for you all
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A few things you can do on ANY ROM to improve battery life.
*) Decrease screen timeout to the lowest possible setting.
*) Adjust screen brightness to the lowest level you can tolerate.
*) Decrease the backlight key timeout to the lowest setting ( or off if you have the option )
*) Be sure to only have wifi and gps on if you are using them.
Those will help quite a bit in general however, a ROM like Juggs is meant to really take advantage of the power of your device so its probably wise to move to a different one if max battery is your goal. I love Juggs but had to move on to the AOSP stuff. Also, heed the advice above, allow the ROM a few days to "settle" before making a switch or even a judgement of its performance.
Thanks for the replies guys. So my phone lasted for 9hrs today which is a little bit of improvement. I was streaming netflix for half an hr on the train on the way back home so that may have drained the battery. I have just installed JD, will post back how it goes tomorrow.
So the extended battery is a no go eh. I really don't want to lug around a few extra batteries. I want to carry as little as possible. I normally carry my phone and my ipad but now I tend to not use the ipad much now because the S2 screen is pretty gigantic for a phone.
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Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
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I know the point was already made but just to reiterate, you can get 2 Anker extended batteries (same size as regular battery) and a universal charger for like $20. This will leave you with three batteries. One for the charger, one for the pocket, and one for the phone. With this system its pretty easy to always have one full battery ready to go and one charging. The battery is small and can just go in your pocket, or maybe even in your wallet depending on your preferences. It solves the problem completely. I don't think you are going to do much better because if you are a heavy user then your battery is going to be used because your phone isn't going to be sleeping.
Good luck.
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I know the point was already made but just to reiterate, you can get 2 Anker extended batteries (same size as regular battery) and a universal charger for like $20. This will leave you with three batteries. One for the charger, one for the pocket, and one for the phone. With this system its pretty easy to always have one full battery ready to go and one charging. The battery is small and can just go in your pocket, or maybe even in your wallet depending on your preferences. It solves the problem completely. I don't think you are going to do much better because if you are a heavy user then your battery is going to be used because your phone isn't going to be sleeping.
Good luck.
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If you read my post above. I'm against the idea lugging around too many things. It's also a hassle to swap the battery and keep them all charged. I may be a heavy user but it's not like I use the phone all the time. I use the phone heavily early in the morning on the way to work and after 5pm on the way home after work. The commute each way is roughly 45 mins. In between the commutes i make a few calls and texts through GV. I don't think i'm that of a really heavy user.
Anyway, it's noon and I'm at 75% with JD on and setCPU to 384-1084mhz which is pretty promising.
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Since you changed kernals, you aren't going to benefit from TDJ's battsaver script you can use with the stock 2.7 kernal.
Go lower on the max frequency. Something below 800 mhz. Setting a negative gloval mV doesn't hurt, and if you can get to -62.5, that's great.
Oh, and when using data, try GSM only...
To be honest, the larger problem with battery life is typically the user. There's no real magic on making the phone last longer other than using it less. If you're going to be power using the hell out of it by using 4g for hours streaming media, your battery is going to be ****.
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Since you changed kernals, you aren't going to benefit from TDJ's battsaver script you can use with the stock 2.7 kernal.
Go lower on the max frequency. Something below 800 mhz. Setting a negative gloval mV doesn't hurt, and if you can get to -62.5, that's great.
Oh, and when using data, try GSM only...
To be honest, the larger problem with battery life is typically the user. There's no real magic on making the phone last longer other than using it less. If you're going to be power using the hell out of it by using 4g for hours streaming media, your battery is going to be ****.
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Don't you think it is ironic for me to switch from the iphone to the S2 because I couldn't stand the slow 2g Edge connection then have to lower data speed to GSM (2g) just so I can use the S2 long enough?
I think the S2 is one heck of a device but the OS and Apps are not running very efficiently.
I tried the ICS ROM ARKSIDE.UCLE2:: x[BETA07.1] in the last 2 days with setCPU at 384-1026Mhz. I have had great battery life. I got home at 12 am yesterday with a 2% battery. Today it's been 7 hrs on battery and my battery is at 70%. I don't know if it is the ROM, setCPU or a combination of the two but I'm pretty happy with the phone right now. ICS is awesome too.
I highly recommend that solution to anyone having a short battery life problem with their S2.
It is a little ironic since you did bring up the comparison. What I was attempting to do was to bring the phone more into spec of an iphone to get similar battery life. You're probably going to even get better runtimes due to the battery having a much larger capacity and better screen technology. All that superior hardware packed in the t989 is going to need more juice to run.
It's great you're getting good runtimes now. From my personal experience, once I drop down to the single digit percentages, it starts lasting a lot longer per percent. If you wanted to squeeze all you can from the device, those 2000mah aftermarket cells might add another 15~30 minutes.

How To: Better Battery Life

I hear it all the time... Does this rom provide good battery life? How's the battery life? Why is my battery life suck? So; it may have been done already somewhere; but I figured after watching and logging my own battery life, I could really help some others. I'll section this out; no specific order at all.
ROM: No matter how many times I look at a ROMs thread, I get to see a multitude of "How is the battery life" posts. You know it, I know it, and we all know it. Truth is; after using plenty of ICS roms out there; most of them have similar battery life. Currently I'm running the Blu Kuban rom, and I get just as good battery life as I do with most other touchwiz based roms. To each rom their own. Read up on the rom itself before you go blaming the rom for battery life. I've noticed the JB builds aren't the best with the battery, but we must remember those are usually noted for having bad battery life. Either way, most of the ROMs I've used personally perform rather similar in actual battery life.
Kernel/Governor tweaks: I can't stress this enough. Governor's and Kernel Thread. That thread will teach you more than anything you want to know about kernel and governor tweaks. Some of these governors can send your phone to absolute battery immolation, while others can set your phone up to last 2x as long. I prefer the more conservative approach and end up with a ton of battery left at the end of the day. While these settings are important, the most important is yet to come.
APPS. I can't stress this enough. I used a quite a few different setups to find what all really uses battery, what doesn't, and what I should to to maximize my own battery. For those of you who don't know me at all, I work ten hours a day, and I used this time frame to measure the battery usage while it's sitting in my car for ten hours. I have a Trexcell 3800mAh battery, so it's roughly 2x the power as the stock battery.
What's the number one usage on my device? NOTIFICATIONS! All of those apps that automatically feed their greed by getting updates from the servers or whatever. Facebook, Hotmail, Tapatalk, and EVEN just the gMail app could drain 10% of my battery in ten hours. Let me show you my findings.. These are the normal apps I use that can automatically update over certain time frames.
Hotmail
Tapatalk (Xparent Red version)
gMail
Facebook
Now if they all automatically update on the stock settings, ten hours of work will mean I'm coming back to a phone with only 75% battery. With only 4-6 hours of deep sleep! That means these apps are waking my phone up to do whatever they want for quite a while. With all of them set to be manually updated; I come to 95-97% battery life. That's quite a stretch in a difference you know?
So, I tested each with the others off and here is what I found. (I tested for three days, wrote my results for each day, then switched to a different app)
Hotmail set to update hourly would leave me with about 90% of the battery at 4:30. Average deep sleep times were in the 8-9 hour ranges.
Tapatalk was setup stock for 15 minute updates. I'd lose at least 10% on the battery every day! Deep sleep however would range in the 8.5-9.5 hour range.
gMail was set to update hourly and would leave me with 95% each day with only keeping the phone awake for 30 minutes on average.
Facebook updates are odd; since they don't happen all the time. So I had a good friend post on my wall three times a day and noticed that it would eat a LOT of battery, usually 10-15% and keep my phone awake for about 30 minutes a pop.
Now I must note, for my tests I had almost nothing installed on the phone aside from the apps listed and the basic apps available in the blue Kuban rom. For the tests, I set google voice to do not disturb so phone calls and the like wouldn't be an issue.
With all four of the apps set to default updates however (no messages on facebook aside from one day), the battery life ranged from one day being 67%, second day ended with 74% and the third day left me with 72%. That's a LOT of battery for just sitting in my car.
After these findings, I've switched all my apps to update only when I manually refresh them, and I'll tell you what, my battery life has never been greater. I literally come home with 95% battery on average and can sit and play on my phone almost all night without charging until it's nightly stay on the charger.
Just some other tips I've learned along the way.
Wifi is a battery slaughterer if it's not connected. Driving around the city and having the wifi detect all kinds of networks is just battery slaughter. So, my rule of thumb now is, when I leave the house the wifi goes off. It's true that wifi uses less battery than 3g and 4g, but when you're picking up random networks and the radio is searching through them, it's just no good for the battery.
Brightness, it's a key. I can't stress this enough, if you don't need 100% brightness and want better battery life, turn that screen brightness down to an acceptable level.
As an ending to this short but sweet little tidbit of information, I'd like to share why I wrote this, did all this testing, and why it mattered to me since I have an extended battery. My phone is my link to the world, my family, potential jobs, and just my favorite handheld entertainment device. Me and my fiancee` both have the E4GT, and I have the extended battery. She has the stock battery and it doesn't last long at all for her. So my plan now is to work with her on her battery life, and give her this extended battery. I won't need it since I literally have to try to get to 50% battery life with it. I usually end up plugging my phone in for the night at 65-75% battery. I just figured I'd share this with people on the forum as maybe a different approach to saving some precious battery. If you like it, tap the thanks button. If you have any ideas to better this, let me know!
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Just like to add for people to check their batteries lol...these stock batteries that come with the phone don't last all that long..a lot of these batteries go bad quick and need to be replaced (a simple spin of the battery will tell you if you need it changed)...and for a lot of people to stop constant deep charges and to charge when needed instead of pushing the battery to low critical levels
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
I will also add that if you're going to try and mess with settings such as I/O or over/under clocking do your research so you don't jack your phone trying to save a battery. I say this from experience lol
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I understand leaving your phone on all day long so you can see texts and missed calls and stuff but why not just turn off your data during the day instead? I use this widget when I am in a poor signal area, don't need data, or sometimes overnight https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.data.enabler&hl=en Simple and effective and you can let your apps sync for times when you are using the phone
Undervolting also helps a little
Step 1. Install CM10 or ParanoidAndroid.
Step 2. PROFIT!
Battery life between stock and AOSP is night and day.
The questions about battery life are there because not every kernal is the same. Especially ones that are early in development. Pretty much every AOSP rom will defer some amount and even more so if 1 of them is in its early stages.
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What battery problem I'm, all good
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What most people need to know is no matter what tweaks are applied.. YMMV. It's all down to the user.. Best way to save battery on your phone.. Turn it off!!!! lol But I agree with the things posted. I'm always messing around to find the best settings.. So far i've gotten over a day (1d 3 hours) with over 2 hours screen on with my setup. Which is great for me. But all in all, it's how i use my phone.
MiguelHogue said:
Just like to add for people to check their batteries lol...these stock batteries that come with the phone don't last all that long..a lot of these batteries go bad quick and need to be replaced (a simple spin of the battery will tell you if you need it changed)...and for a lot of people to stop constant deep charges and to charge when needed instead of pushing the battery to low critical levels
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
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What do you mean spin the battery? As in literally put in on a counter and spin it?
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What do you mean spin the battery? As in literally put in on a counter and spin it?
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Yes.. If it's spins that means it's bulging.. And that equals a bad battery
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
MiguelHogue said:
Yes.. If it's spins that means it's bulging.. And that equals a bad battery
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
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And if it jumps up and starts doing flips.... YOUTUBE THAT SH!T!!!!! :laugh:
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And if it jumps up and starts doing flips.... YOUTUBE THAT SH!T!!!!! :laugh:
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Lol if it jumps and starts doing flips.. Stand back... That thing about to explode
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
Oh everyone loves the magical blue smoke! (i was an airvraft electrician in the navy, seen batteries that werent happy lol noooooo funn)
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I wanted to share some of my thoughts and experiences with battery life on my E4GT.
On GB I had great battery life...As soon as I got on any version of ICS I started having battery life issues. I eventually learned that my battery was buldging so I ordered a new one. Once I got my new battery, I thought life would be grand...NOT so much!!
Over the last month or so and ROM after ROM, tweak after tweak and even going straight stock I figure it was actually the device itself that was the problem...AND it was the problem from the day I got it last Dec. From reception to battery life to buzzing camera.
Something I've seen as is that "freezing" an app doesnt always disable it...I've had to completely uninstall something to get it to not run...even though its frozen and all of its startup references are disabled in Autostarts.
I dont care for the stock browser, but I've learned that 3rd party browsers such as Firefox and Chrome continue to run and use CPU even after exiting...Now, FIrefox has an actual "Quit" option while chrome doesnt...So if you Quit out of Firefox its ok, but unless you close your tab in Chrome it just keeps on chugging battery power.
A TEP replacement phone is what finally resolved my issues!!
I've only had my new phone for 2 days now, but I'm already seeing better battery than before, plus better reception and a camera that doesnt buzz.
I've got Agats ROM with the BluKuban 1.8 Kernel. This Kernel has a few more options enabled so I use that but I like how Agat put his FI27 ROM together.
Thanks for reading...
Found this one to be very helpful (written for the nexus but some does apply to our device):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599025
Also if you have a newer version of maps, make sure to go to settings-location settings and disable location reporting and location history, these two kill your battery when turned on.

cm10 and flashing another kernel

I have cm10 stable on my galaxy s2 sgh-t989 and the battery life has not been good so I wanted to trying flashing another kernel. Can anyone tell me what kernels will work and if anyones had a good experience improving battery life by flashing a different kernel. Any information is appreciated. I haven't been able to find much about the t989 and flashing kernels. Thank you!
What's up with these threads in the wrong places every so often? It's like no one reads the rules now-a-days...
And also, don't just say that your battery life is bad without giving members a time of how long the battery lasts. We don't want to guess how long your battery lasts.
macboy3000 said:
What's up with these threads in the wrong places every so often? It's like no one reads the rules now-a-days...
And also, don't just say that your battery life is bad without giving members a time of how long the battery lasts. We don't want to guess how long your battery lasts.
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sorrry, I guess I should have posted this in Q/A ... but after about 2hours I'm already almost at 50 percent.
And is most of the time on standby or on heavy usage?
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And is most of the time on standby or on heavy usage?
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I would say in between ... my biggest question was really about the kernels. I can determine for myself what is good battery life with experimenting with flashing different kernels, among other things. I'm just looking for a bit more information on flashing a kernel, ones I can, ones I can't, etc.
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sorrry, I guess I should have posted this in Q/A ... but after about 2hours I'm already almost at 50 percent.
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Same here. I cannot get my phone past the 5 hour mark if I am using it. If I just leave it next to me alone, it lasts 7. If I have wifi on, however, it lasts 15! My guess is how strong the network is and whether or not you have an exchange account synced affects it. Another thing is, after a full charge your phone running CM10 will refuse to enter deep sleep for some reason, making for some very disappointing battery life. Rebooting it every time you disconnect a charger helps somewhat, but that's hardly practical: with a battery life this bad, that makes rebooting every hour since I keep it plugged in everywhere I can. I am resigned to lugging an external battery everywhere I go and hate every minute of it.
As for another kernel, don't bother. Battery life has sucked for me with every last rom and kernel combo I have tried, including stock. Numbers have been pretty much the same, and there are no wakelocks on it. What another kernel did manage to do is make my phone really hot and really slow, as well as reboot whenever it feels like it. Phone becomes utterly unusable.
Kernel won't help you. You are not solving one problem, you are solving several : radio, deep sleep and demand for data.
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Same here. I cannot get my phone past the 5 hour mark if I am using it. If I just leave it next to me alone, it lasts 7. If I have wifi on, however, it lasts 15! My guess is how strong the network is and whether or not you have an exchange account synced affects it. Another thing is, after a full charge your phone running CM10 will refuse to enter deep sleep for some reason, making for some very disappointing battery life. Rebooting it every time you disconnect a charger helps somewhat, but that's hardly practical: with a battery life this bad, that makes rebooting every hour since I keep it plugged in everywhere I can. I am resigned to lugging an external battery everywhere I go and hate every minute of it.
As for another kernel, don't bother. Battery life has sucked for me with every last rom and kernel combo I have tried, including stock. Numbers have been pretty much the same, and there are no wakelocks on it. What another kernel did manage to do is make my phone really hot and really slow, as well as reboot whenever it feels like it. Phone becomes utterly unusable.
Kernel won't help you. You are not solving one problem, you are solving several : radio, deep sleep and demand for data.
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dang, ok. Thanks for the info. I'll stick with cm10 and its stock kernel, see if I can't tweak anything to get better battery life.
Get an extended battery I found one on eBay that increases battery from 1850mah to 2400mah without that ugly hump add on to the back.
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benpottier said:
dang, ok. Thanks for the info. I'll stick with cm10 and its stock kernel, see if I can't tweak anything to get better battery life.
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By the way, I was referring to the current crop of custom kernels for CM10. I wrote it as a general statement and I didn't mean it to be.
There used to be one kernel called KKO. If it gets ported to CM10, get it. Your battery life will still suck, but you will have a slightly snappier phone and more governors to play with. You can squeeze maybe an extra half-hour from the phone this way. Insignificant, I know. Also, the extended batteries are all sacrificing something: either NFC functionality, or the slimness of your phone (some require a custom back cover), or both. In the end, when you do the math, it adds about 2 hours of runtime to your phone: you are still running from charger to charger. The external battery gives me an additional ~7 hours of heavy use, but is a big phone-sized object tethered to my phone with a USB cable. I look like a suicide bomber with a wire running between my pockets. Not ideal, not by a long shot.

What battery issues?

Reading all the reviews and comparisons of this phone to other flagships before I bought it, I thought I was going to be settling for sub-par battery life. I bought an extra charger for work so that I could make sure I had enough juice throughout the day.
But now, I feel like I've been lied to. This phone has the best battery life I've ever seen on a stock ROM. I'm never below 70% at the end of the day, and I average about 4-5 hours of screen-on time. My battery usage screen usually estimates that I'll get between 28-36 hours of life out of my battery. I charge it every night, so I haven't tested that.
Am I the only one? Did I get lucky? I really don't understand all the fuss I've seen about the battery.
I've only had mine a couple of days but it seems okay to me, better than my HTC One (m7). I ran it down to 20% last night after loading programs and playing with it all day, several phone calls, streaming Rhapsody for a couple of hours. I didn't check the stats but it was off the charger for about 14 1/2 hours. I have marginal cell service in the building where I work and that has always contributed to excessive battery drain. Overall I'm pleased, haven't had an LG phone since the flip days.
I think many people having battery problems are with T-Mobile. They've got a piece of support bloatware that kills the battery, and people in areas of poor coverage (T-Mobile!) will consume a lot also. Plus, both these things heat the phone up so it will charge slower.
My battery drains a lot faster when I setup few things.
In smart lock set trusted places. (this keep on checking for location every few minutes)
Enabled google now for all screens .
With these two the battery drained like open tap; disabled both of em and its very good for such a screen.
My G2 had much better battery life than the G4 . I've debloated , factory restored, turned off location, lowered brightness etc... My free battery will be coming shortly so I hope it is better
This should help answer your question. I have the worst screen on time with this phone, I hit over 3 hours maybe twice. 2 hr 30 mins is usually all i get. I attached 1000 screenshots to prove that lol. Get 4 hrs SOT easy on my M9 and Nexus 6. Fortunately, standby time is glorious on this phone.
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This should help answer your question. I have the worst screen on time with this phone, I hit over 3 hours maybe twice. 2 hr 30 mins is usually all i get. I attached 1000 screenshots to prove that lol. Get 4 hrs SOT easy on my M9 and Nexus 6. Fortunately, standby time is glorious on this phone.
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Wow! I wonder why we have such drastically different results. I'm using the Verizon variant (VS986). Which network is yours on?
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Wow! I wonder why we have such drastically different results. I'm using the Verizon variant (VS986). Which network is yours on?
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Verizon of course lol
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Verizon of course lol
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Lol... I was thinking I posted this in the general (non-carrier-specific) forum.
Definitely not the g2 battery, but more than sufficient. Usually charge every other night 3-4 hours of sot. Minor debloating done.
Current stats... This is over 13 hours, went to the zoo and took a lot of pictures of the little one.
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I get the same battery usage with the G4 "stock" as I did with the G2 "ROM'd and Rooted" which I would assume after the G4 is ROM'd and Rooted it will be better.
I went almost 4 days at one point with out charging my G2. Granted it was lighter use, but still.
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This phone has the best battery life I've ever seen on a smartphone, period. And although I haven't been around for awhile, my first rooted smartphone was the HTC Evo, and there have literally been hundreds in between then, and now. So it's safe to say, that I've got my experience to be able to judge what's good and what's not. And although it's just my personal opinion, or I just got LG's one and only "super" smartphone that no one else got, and my battery is unlike anyone else's, it's highly unlikely. This battery is the shiznit, hands down. Not to mention, the LG G Pad X8.3, not to be confused with the older LG G pad 8.3, also has amazing battery life, and pretty much is just awesome all around. No lag, excellent wifi connection, excellent cellular reception, and, the specs are up to date if not advanced. Lg doing their thing right now, we just need to figure out a bootloader unlock and root, and we're good to go.
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This phone has the best battery life I've ever seen on a smartphone, period. And although I haven't been around for awhile, my first rooted smartphone was the HTC Evo, and there have literally been hundreds in between then, and now. So it's safe to say, that I've got my experience to be able to judge what's good and what's not. And although it's just my personal opinion, or I just got LG's one and only "super" smartphone that no one else got, and my battery is unlike anyone else's, it's highly unlikely. This battery is the shiznit, hands down. Not to mention, the LG G Pad X8.3, not to be confused with the older LG G pad 8.3, also has amazing battery life, and pretty much is just awesome all around. No lag, excellent wifi connection, excellent cellular reception, and, the specs are up to date if not advanced. Lg doing their thing right now, we just need to figure out a bootloader unlock and root, and we're good to go.
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Yeah, this sounds like the kind of experience I'm having, which doesn't seem to be typical from what I've read. Maybe we're just lucky.
the only time I get crappy battery life is when I am at work and that's a weak signal area. While I'm at home I easily get 4 hours screen time and still have around 20% battery left. Very happy with the battery life.
Battery life reports are always going to be subjective. You never know the full use of a device. Most people focus on data, WiFi, brightness, sot, GPS, and Bluetooth. Never really here much about what apps and what's running in the background.
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Battery life reports are always going to be subjective. You never know the full use of a device. Most people focus on data, WiFi, brightness, sot, GPS, and Bluetooth. Never really here much about what apps and what's running in the background.
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Agreed. I average only 2hr 30 mins SOT, but then, I keep my brightness on 100%, wi-fi always off. I go same settings on other phones, but get like 4 hrs, but weaker standy-by time
I'm in the same boat as the OP. I've been so surprised with all the people screaming about battery life and I'm like really? Because I haven't been able to kill this thing in a day yet. I am rarely below the 40's % mark at worst when I go to bed. I got the spare battery kit from LG but I haven't had to use it once. I suppose I'm just not as much of a power user as I once thought lol.
For those getting great battery life with 4+ hours SOT, out of curiosity, what screen brightness are you guys using? Do you have auto-brightness enabled? What apps are you actually using? etc. etc. etc.
I have found that the battery life on this phone, so far for me has been about average. No worse or better than I expected. I typically keep my brightness around 50%, have wifi on, and play a fair amount of games. I think the games running are what kills it for me for the most part. If I'm not gaming I can't possibly see using 4+ hours SOT. I get bored of reading things fairly easily.
That being said I just killed a bunch of bloatware verizon had manifested into my phone for no other reason than to make us angry. I also installed greenify to stop some background apps from running. I'm very interested to see if it gets better going forward.
Use lux from the app store for auto brightness. You can tailor to your preference.
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