[Q] N7100 adb backup problems, and potential alternatives without rooting? - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Yes, I'm a noob. No, I can't keep things brief. I'm sorry video, I just can't do it. Hello XDA. Here's my pickle:
So, my camera's faulty, and I'm going to have to send my Note II back to Kogan. This is my first Android handset, and my first time properly experiencing and using Android (I moved here from a Blackberry Pearl 9100). I don't consider myself a base-line user, I'm competent with many forms of electronics and computing so I quickly settled into Android nicely. Thus far I've rooted, flashed recovery and flashed CyanogenMod 9 for one Android phone (I was the first in my family to make the switch, my sister got a Galaxy Wonder for Christmas and I flashed CM9 so she could have at least ICS for her phone) and it was a fairly straight-forward process, nothing too difficult (although it seems my father's Motorola Defy+ might be a bit trickier).
I'll get to the point, due to the camera being basically dead on arrival, I've got to send it back. I don't want to send it back with all of my personal information intact however, I'd prefer to take a full backup of it and then factory reset the device before sending it away. This is where the warranty clause comes in.
I can't root the device (this action breaks warranty) and therefore can't flash CWM to do a nandroid backup. After some reading, a nandroid sounded like the ideal solution but obviously I can't do that. See, I wanted to backup all of my data, including (if possible) apps, settings, accounts, the works. I really don't want to have to go through the process of re-downloading all of my apps (my internet connection isn't the quickest around) and setting everything up just the way I want it again.
I stumbled across the adb backup technique, and considering the N7100 shipped with Jellybean 4.1 and adb backup requires ICS 4.0+, I thought "Hey, why not. It seems pretty straight forward." I also figured it'd be a small learning experience, I'm thinking about getting into android app development sometime in the near future and needed the SDK anyway so I downloaded and installed that, fired up adb and ran the backup with the following parameters:
Code:
adb backup -f <FILE PATH> -apk -shared -all -nosystem
And it seemed to get stuck on the apk for GTA Vice City. So, after about an hour of sitting, I pulled the plug and tried again. This time it got to Angry Birds and got stuck once more. I decided to run it again, but with a different set of parameters, I thought "Maybe it's getting stuck with the SD card data."
Code:
adb backup -f <FILE PATH> -apk -all -noshared -nosystem
This time it got stuck on Bad Piggies. I pulled the plug once more and started searching for answers, but there's not a huge amount of discussion about the backup function, let alone specific to the Note II. I read some stuff about the One X getting stuck on certain parts, but they certainly weren't games like this.
And that's the thing that links them all, they're games. I'm not sure if that specifically has any effect on the process, but I'm beginning to think that trying to back up EVERYTHING so that I can restore my device to the same state it is in now is a futile effort. Without the ease of a nandroid 'snapshot', I'm running out of ideas. I could go through and delete every game I've installed and try the backup again, but I'd like to see if anyone else has any alternatives or explanations.
Here are my queries, don't feel like you've got to answer them all, they're just the questions I've got in my head right now.
1. Is there any known reason as to why adb backup gets stuck on these apks?
2. Is there a better way of creating some form of 'snapshot' of my device without rooting it?
3. Would Samsung Kies' backup utility keep my app and system settings after a factory reset (in that it'd load up Nova Launcher with all of it's settings, along with the few widgets I have, intact)?
4. Are there any apps that would do this? I've heard Titanium Backup will, but you need to be rooted to use that.
I'm starting to feel that just doing it the manual way is going to be easier in the long run.
With question three, I'm assuming that Kies won't backup any apks, and therefore when my phone is sent back to me I'll have to set it up again, download my required/desired apps and then restore my settings through Kies (which will hopefully also restore settings for apps like Nova Launcher, and even better, for widget applications like HD widgets). However, if I'm wrong and Kies DOES backup apks, I'll just do that, it's so much less screwing around and it does what I wanted it to do but didn't think it did in the first place.
Thanks XDA,
-svdkillswitch
(Also, first post!)
Other information:
Device: GT-N7100 (international)
Carrier: Unlocked, Telstra
Android version: 4.1.1, 'Jelly Bean'
Baseband version: N7100UBALJ1
Build number: JRO03C.N7100UBALJ1
Rooted: No

Easiest way
Root with exynos abuse exploit (method 3 in link)and install titanium backup and backup all data using it. I recommend to save backup folder in Ext SD card.
After finishing this you can unroot from application itself.

dr.ketan said:
Easiest way
Root with exynos abuse exploit (method 3 in link)and install titanium backup and backup all data using it. I recommend to save backup folder in Ext SD card.
After finishing this you can unroot from application itself.
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Thanks for your help,
You say in the linked post that while it doesn't trigger the flash counter, it can cause problems with the camera. If I'm just temp-rooting, backing it up with Titanium, and then un-rooting it again, none of these effects will remain I assume. I guess it doesn't matter too much anyway actually, because my camera is the reason I'm sending it back in.
And once I get my device back, it's as simple as installing the apk, rooting the device, installing Titanium and restoring my backup from the ext SD.
Sounds good. I'll give it a whirl and let you know how I go. +1'd.
-svdkillswitch

It cause camera issue only if you disable exploit, here you need not to do anything rather thn just root.
-Install that apk file, get device rooted.(there is option to root device in application), you need not to check disable exploit
-Install titanium Pro from market and backup (first select backup location to Ext sd card)
- Once finish, uninstall titanium and unroot device from exynose app
You can also factory reset and send to service centre.

dr.ketan said:
It cause camera issue only if you disable exploit, here you need not to do anything rather thn just root.
-Install that apk file, get device rooted.(there is option to root device in application), you need not to check disable exploit
-Install titanium Pro from market and backup (first select backup location to Ext sd card)
- Once finish, uninstall titanium and unroot device from exynose app
You can also factory reset and send to service centre.
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Yeah, that's all I did. Rooted, installed Titanium and backed-up my data to the external SD card. I've un-rooted the device, all I need to do now is factory reset.
Thanks for your help, much appreciated.
-svdkillswitch

but adb doesnt work

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migrating from one EVO to a NEW Evo

well long story short... unrelated to anything herein... i have two EVO phones. one is a replacement phone for the current active phone. Sprint sent it to me, cause they couldn't figure out why Google's market wouldn't download apps to my phone. (I solved that problem on my own) but in the mean time i had this replacement phone, so I decided to test things out...
I have fully rooted the test phone, and I am using DamageControl v3.2.3. I installed apps on this phone over wifi.. and started to think that now i need to move my data over from the current active phone.
I have titanium backup paid version. On the test phone, i have backed up the phone going through the root and unlocking of NAND process. Pretty cool application.
I also have "lookout" installed on the active phone, and it is current.
My question is, best i can tell much of the application data seems to be on the SDRAM card. Is that not the case? what data is actually lost during a root proces or NAND unlocking process?
Since Titanium backup requires root access I really can't back up the current phone using that application. I have some backup with the "lookout" application. But i was wondering when the device gets flashed... what exactly is getting writen over.
i see a folder called Mail on the SD card... it is about 50mb... is that where my mail messages are from my different POP3 accounts? on the test phone, all of the mail account settings are not there obviously... but if i add the email accounts will it read the mail from the SDcard created using the other phone?
here is the data I like to migrate over from the rootless phone to the rooted phone.
1. mail messages from about 12 mail accounts
2. Mail account settings
3. layout of the different Sense walls (or whatever they are called) ..you know the faces with all of the icons you see when you look at the phone (there are 7)
4. phone call history
5. SMS messages and history
6. application settings
7. Browser bookmarks (and settings)
i can see my pictures and video are located on my sdram card, but not sure about the above items....
can you help? I am a skilled IT network pro, but not too skilled in the phone's unix like workings... can you help?
There are probably several ways you can do this, but I think it will be easier to accomplish this if you root your rootless phone. Once that phone is rooted you can use titanium or make a nandroid back up and restore on the phone that already has root. Both nandroid backup and titanium backups are saved on the SD card. If rooting is not an option your going to have to look for an app that can make backups without root. There might be one out there but I dont know of any.
it is not clear to me, what exactly is lost when I root. There are warnings that states:
"wipe all of your data so brace for that. backup or what not"
doesn't that mean I will loose user data in step 1 of the toastcfh process before i am able to install (or run) titanium backup?
the warning is not really clear to me exactly what is going on....
I am not against rooting, the rootless phone. Do think Sprint would care if I send them a rooted phone I suppose i could de-root, the rooted phone. I remember seeing somebody having a process for that... not sure.
need some help clearing up some of this... thanks!

[Q] Quick Question about restoring apps after applying RUU

Hey guys,
Just wondering if anyone could advise me on the quickest/easiest way to restore my 200 or so backed-up apps from the sd-card after I reapply a stock RUU (which I'm doing so that I can install a recent OTA update)
A couple of things I've considered (with my extremely limited knowledge) in advance:
1.) Reinstalling Titanium Backup and trying to use this. Just not sure whether it can do this, ie: does it work from a log (which presumably would have been wiped after the RUU was applied), or does it simply point to a folder on the sd-card (in which case I imagine a fresh new installation of Titanium would be able to retrieve everything)
2.) Installing each and every one individually via the backed-up APK files on the sd-card. (Not my preference, for obvious reasons)
3. Rerooting the phone and then getting R/W access to /system/apps to just paste everything in there (also not my preference, as I am not confident in my knowledge or abilities of this stuff).
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
Titanium backup should work fine, if you've got 200+ apps though I would recommend getting the pro version since it is going to take you very long to restore them one at a time.
Wow, I'm surprised that the free version doesn't do a batch restore, as I was able to perform a batch backup of absolutely everything, and really easily.
Thanks for the heads-up and response, mate.

[Q] How to achieve the most complete backup solution? (I have root)

Hi
So I don't really mind if I have to hook it up to the computer or anything, I just want a really complete backup solution. It should backup pretty much everything I have on my SD Card.
I already have Titanium Backup Pro and upuntil now I thought it was complete, but after completely wiping my SD Card in an attempt to install the latest RUU (which didn't work btw, but that's off topic...) and copying my Titanium Backup-stuff from a computer backup I realized it's really really incomplete. To be honest I'm not at all sure what it even is backing up... maybe my Titanium is just set wrong?
So what happened is this... like I said my SD Card was wiped but I had previously backed up Titanium to my Dropbox and pushed the whole folder to my phone after the wipe. However none of my settings for Nova Launcher were saved. My Nova settings back up was not saved. Passwords for Google, Facebook, Dropbox etc were not saved. Data from Swiftkey was not saved. Kakao Talk and SMS messaging history was not saved.
Like I said, I'm not sure what actually was saved...
I don't really mind, maybe even prefer, if I could use my computer to store these backups instead of the SD since I don't always have a lot of space left on my device.
(I think I got the filesystem thing and updating to the latest RUU didn't work - that's what landed me in this situation to begin with by the way.)
kaminix said:
Hi
So I don't really mind if I have to hook it up to the computer or anything, I just want a really complete backup solution. It should backup pretty much everything I have on my SD Card.
I already have Titanium Backup Pro and upuntil now I thought it was complete, but after completely wiping my SD Card in an attempt to install the latest RUU (which didn't work btw, but that's off topic...) and copying my Titanium Backup-stuff from a computer backup I realized it's really really incomplete. To be honest I'm not at all sure what it even is backing up... maybe my Titanium is just set wrong?
So what happened is this... like I said my SD Card was wiped but I had previously backed up Titanium to my Dropbox and pushed the whole folder to my phone after the wipe. However none of my settings for Nova Launcher were saved. My Nova settings back up was not saved. Passwords for Google, Facebook, Dropbox etc were not saved. Data from Swiftkey was not saved. Kakao Talk and SMS messaging history was not saved.
Like I said, I'm not sure what actually was saved...
I don't really mind, maybe even prefer, if I could use my computer to store these backups instead of the SD since I don't always have a lot of space left on my device.
(I think I got the filesystem thing and updating to the latest RUU didn't work - that's what landed me in this situation to begin with by the way.)
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Even if you pushed the whole folder back to your phone...did you actually restore the app/data using Titanium afterwards? Pushing the back-up folder back to your phone just means Titanium can access it. It doesn't restore everything unless you actually do so using Titanium.
Otherwise, making a nandroid backup using CWM recovery takes a perfect snapshot of your phone at that moment. So your texts will all be in place, passwords, settings etc. will all be as they are now. Of course, you can't really flash your nandroid over a new ROM just to restore app data, but it allows you to revert your phone back to its original state before flashing (like in your above scenario where you had a failed RUU installation)
poofish said:
Even if you pushed the whole folder back to your phone...did you actually restore the app/data using Titanium afterwards? Pushing the back-up folder back to your phone just means Titanium can access it. It doesn't restore everything unless you actually do so using Titanium.
Otherwise, making a nandroid backup using CWM recovery takes a perfect snapshot of your phone at that moment. So your texts will all be in place, passwords, settings etc. will all be as they are now. Of course, you can't really flash your nandroid over a new ROM just to restore app data, but it allows you to revert your phone back to its original state before flashing (like in your above scenario where you had a failed RUU installation)
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
Yes I did restore. When I backup I do the full backup thingie in batch operations and when I restore I do the restore apps and system data + restore app data.
Yeah, I was thinking of Nandroid too but doesn't that just do non-SD card? I'm very new to Android but isn't most of the stuff I actually care about (app data and such) on the SD?
titanium doesn't restore system bits by default and google/facebook/dropbox is integrated into the OS.
You CAN force it to I believe but it WILL break things if you change your ROM at all.
IN my mind a small issue doesn't take long to sign back into those services as long as all your apps and data is intact thats all good.
If you have the filesystem thing I STRONGLY SUGGEST you up to 1.29.xyz.11 before you do any more custom rom/CWM work. Even relock/RUU, OTA then unlock and go. I had very bad experiences with this bug.
wintermute000 said:
titanium doesn't restore system bits by default and google/facebook/dropbox is integrated into the OS.
You CAN force it to I believe but it WILL break things if you change your ROM at all.
IN my mind a small issue doesn't take long to sign back into those services as long as all your apps and data is intact thats all good.
If you have the filesystem thing I STRONGLY SUGGEST you up to 1.29.xyz.11 before you do any more custom rom/CWM work. Even relock/RUU, OTA then unlock and go. I had very bad experiences with this bug.
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Hi. Thanks for your reply.
I totally would upgrade to the RUU if HTC there wasn't this small issue of the RUU not working. I live and bought my phone in Sweden and my CID confirms it's a european phone - however when I run the RUU it formats the phone and transfers about half the ROM then setup says "nope, wrong ROM." and leaves me with a dysfunctional OS. I'm also on a Mac so I have to run Windows 7 in VM Ware Fusion and starting that stupid RUU-file and everything takes AGES. I've already spent the better part of a day and night trying to get it to work and if I'm opening that RUU one more time with VM Ware if it doesn't work I think I'm gonna hang myself. So very very very sick and tired of that bullcrap. So... for now I'm either waiting for access to a Windows computer so I can try all of the RUUs and see if my phone's transmutated into the wrong region OR I'm awaiting an S-OFF mod so I don't need to use RUU.
As for the logins and such, it's not only google/facebook/dropbox. It's also Twitter, Evernote, Swiftkey and well... pretty much everything. Chrome seems to be logged in. AnkiDroid didn't get to save it's data (which luckily is saved in the cloud... and backed up manually).
Google Music offline data would be nice to keep to since it's pretty slow to sync. Plus I have to look-up what I actually want everytime I reflash.
Also, if I'm only flashing an upgrade to my current ROM must I really enter all the passwords again anyway?
kaminix said:
Hi. Thanks for your reply.
I totally would upgrade to the RUU if HTC there wasn't this small issue of the RUU not working. I live and bought my phone in Sweden and my CID confirms it's a european phone - however when I run the RUU it formats the phone and transfers about half the ROM then setup says "nope, wrong ROM." and leaves me with a dysfunctional OS. I'm also on a Mac so I have to run Windows 7 in VM Ware Fusion and starting that stupid RUU-file and everything takes AGES. I've already spent the better part of a day and night trying to get it to work and if I'm opening that RUU one more time with VM Ware if it doesn't work I think I'm gonna hang myself. So very very very sick and tired of that bullcrap. So... for now I'm either waiting for access to a Windows computer so I can try all of the RUUs and see if my phone's transmutated into the wrong region OR I'm awaiting an S-OFF mod so I don't need to use RUU.
As for the logins and such, it's not only google/facebook/dropbox. It's also Twitter, Evernote, Swiftkey and well... pretty much everything. Chrome seems to be logged in. AnkiDroid didn't get to save it's data (which luckily is saved in the cloud... and backed up manually).
Google Music offline data would be nice to keep to since it's pretty slow to sync. Plus I have to look-up what I actually want everytime I reflash.
Also, if I'm only flashing an upgrade to my current ROM must I really enter all the passwords again anyway?
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Not sure if its not vmware thats breaking your RUU..... you can check your CID in fastboot and verify, if its supposed to work then its supposed to work, its vmware breaking it.
Hey at least you can flash a ROM right? 10 minutes entering passwords again is a lot less problems than a lot of people have encountered (including me, I got a corrupted super laggy file system IO after CWM and the disappearing SD card space bug hit at once).
As for nandroid, yes it doesn't touch your sd card but otherwise its 1:1 I've always gotten back from a nandroid with everything exactly as it was
wintermute000 said:
Not sure if its not vmware thats breaking your RUU..... you can check your CID in fastboot and verify, if its supposed to work then its supposed to work, its vmware breaking it.
Hey at least you can flash a ROM right? 10 minutes entering passwords again is a lot less problems than a lot of people have encountered (including me, I got a corrupted super laggy file system IO after CWM and the disappearing SD card space bug hit at once).
As for nandroid, yes it doesn't touch your sd card but otherwise its 1:1 I've always gotten back from a nandroid with everything exactly as it was
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Maybe. But it's very strange that VM Ware would be breaking a RUU isn't it?
Either way it means I need access to a Windows computer, either because VM Ware is breaking or because it's too darn slow. Indeed I have checked my CID in fastboot and it does say euro (well, I don't remember the CID itself but it correlated to euro).
Thanks for all your help. Greatly appreciated.
no probs good luck
edit: are you sure you are unbranded. If you are branded (Carrier handset) you need the carrier's RUU
its not that strange vmware breaks it, you are doing something that requires low level write access via USB.

Please help a beginner with Recovery and Cryogen

Hey guys,
I am a total noob at all this rooting stuff. I have had my S3 for several years now and am still pretty happy with it, but I like technical work and decided to get the most out of my phone. I have been trying to figure some things out and have read alot of posts but still a little hazy. The best way to avoid hours of fixing something you broke out of ignorance? Double check with the pros.
Android version 4.3
So here is what I have done so far: I made a samsung smart switch backup of my phone then followed this posts instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793071 . Worked great. I am all rooted, I have superSU installed. Everything went fine. because it sounded like a good utility I downloaded ROM manager from the playstore (from this post's recommendation http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2135588 . I set up and ran the clockwork recovery app, it did a weird boot and screen and proceeded to run a backup. I cannot find that backup file but it says it made one and when i tired its remote backup download server (which is only for premium users) it showed a backup even through I could not download it. Then I downloaded titanium backup * root from the playstore and I had it backup system and user apps. After failing to find my titanium back up (it made 306 backups? ok......) I created a new folder in my SD card and routed the backups there. I open that folder and found a ton of files with GZ extension. I copied that whole folder (1.4gb) onto my computer.
That is what I have do to this point. I want to use the Cryogen ROM so I went to their site and found my phone model (https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/D2tmo_Info). That page has a big warning about incompatible ICS Bootloader and tells me to update my firmware. I would be fine with running slightly older version of Cryogen, pre 10.1 but A) security concerns and B) I dont think what they have posted are the stable releases and C) no recovery (i have no idea what that is supposed to do,. recover what?) At that point I stopped and did some research but came away not at all enlightened. A lot of posts talk about other utilities such as adb, Odin, and so on but I am clueless. If I haven't mentioned a program or an action assume I dont have it or have not done it.
Also, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2135588 mentions booting into recovery mode and making two backups (one to each sd card and phone) I want to be as safe as possible but all these backups are eating up alot of space. Do they all need to be stored on my phone at all times? Which ones can I copy to my computer for storage and delete from my phone?
Things I want to do:
--create good backups
--transfer as many backups as possible to my computer
-- install Cryogen ROM
What are the next few steps?
My current thinking is to boot into recovery mode and create backups as specified in the noobs guide. Transfer those backups to my computer. Then use ROM manager to install cryogen v12.1. (firmware update? need? how?). I am not taking any further action until I hear back from this thread, but I just wanted to explain my current plan of action which is probably incorrect.
I really appreciate any help you fine folks can give.
Edit: after doing all the titanium backups stuff i talked about I returned to home page... my background has changed. WTH?
Edit2: I went ahead and ran two backups in clockwork recovery mode, one to sdcard and one to sdcard1 ( I assume to phone card and external card). I found a bunch of files in the SD card's clockwork file. My device and card are running low on space, I need to get the backups onto my comp. Holding off until I find out if I need to keep a backup on the device at all times.
Edit 3: I keep getting a pop up that says t-mobile account app has stopped working.
In order to run the latest CM ROM for the T999, recommend installing the latest bootloader and modem on the phone. I recommend using the latest CM ROMs to help ensure that the phone is running the latest security patches.
To determine the baseband and bootloader on the phone, download and install the Samsung Phone Info app from the play store and run it.

Question How to fully backup device without root (before sending to assistance)

Hi,
Few months ago I bought a ROG Phone 6D, a few weeks ago it fell and it managed to hit a pointy pebble right on the "aeroactive portal" (the valve that opens when you attach the cooler), damaging it. Now whenever I use the cooler the valve will open but won't close, and on the phone itself will show a notification saying "abnormal aeroactive portal detection". I wrote to ASUS asking where I could get it fixed and they told me there's no in store assistance for my country and I must compile a form and have it sent to their centre.
I was also told my phone will be factory reset (even for such an issue) to ensure my privacy, so I wanted to find a way to have a full backup (apps, settings, data, life universe and everything) but when looking for ways to backup a phone it seems all the methods I used to use years ago are not working (or partially working now), even adb backup can miss some stuff apparently now, and is considered deprecated.
I would like to find a way to backup my phone so that when it comes back I could just restore it and act like it hasn't lost a single day without having to root my phone (which, as far as I've understood, will void my warranty), is there such a thing in 2023? The command adb backup -apk -obb -shared -all -system -f fullbackup.ab seems to be the best at the moment, with the exception it might miss some apps if they opted out of backups. Is there something better than this?
Thanks!
there is maybe a way to backup with D2D transfer apps as it is the only backup method that still get all permissions. unfortunately I don't know if such apps can be used on single phone.
Android 11 forces apps to support local backups but not cloud backups
It's no secret that backing up and restoring apps and data sucks on Android, especially when switching devices. Android 11 is slightly making things better.
www.xda-developers.com
But you can at least backup your files of Internal Storage from adb.
Code:
adb pull -a /sdcard
cloud backup may also work for some apps, you can use Swift Backup without root or Google One (untested)

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