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Will it have Backup Assistant?

I have never owned a Nexus phone so please excuse me if this is a dumb question. I currently have a rooted Thunderbolt running CM7.1. My understanding is that Nexus phones don't have any of the bloat apps preinstalled. I don't need/want Verizon's Backup Assistant as I use Google for my contacts. Does anyone know if this phone will have Backup Assistant pre installed? If so, will we be able to remove it without rooting the phone? I would like to get this phone and not have to root it.

That's a good question. They didn't install backup assistant on the iPhone 4 or 4S and contacts are transfered via an app you have to download from the app store so they may do something simular. However they did manage to get their mobile hotspot app pre-installed on the iPhones so we'll have to wait and see.
But with 4.0 even if they put it on the phone it doesn't really matter:
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in android we use an app called TI (Titanium Backup)
you can then backup to SD card, to internal storage, and to the cloud on DropBox

AllGamer said:
in android we use an app called TI (Titanium Backup)
you can then backup to SD card, to internal storage, and to the cloud on DropBox
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What he was referring to was a Verizon app that is solely used to transfer contacts from one CDMA phone to another since they cannot be saved to a SIM like GSM phones. It's pre-installed on nearly every VZW phone, however to anyone in the know, it's kind of useless if you're going from Android to Android since all Google contacts sync to whatever phone shortly after you sign in to your account during the setup phase.

Your gmail backs up your contacts, backup assistant is not needed.

Yes that's what I meant. I don't want the Backup Assisant app on the phone at all. Don't need it as I use Google (gmail) to back up my contacts. With the poor battery life I experienced on my HTC Incredible and Thunderbolt, I figure any unnecessary apps I can get rid of the better. Especially any that run/sync in the background.

black05x5 said:
Yes that's what I meant. I don't want the Backup Assisant app on the phone at all. Don't need it as I use Google (gmail) to back up my contacts. With the poor battery life I experienced on my HTC Incredible and Thunderbolt, I figure any unnecessary apps I can get rid of the better. Especially any that run/sync in the background.
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Did you not click on the link from my first reply which explains that ICS allows users to disable all bloatware?

qreffie said:
Did you not click on the link from my first reply which explains that ICS allows users to disable all bloatware?
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and that same reason is why allot of carriers wont put ICS on thair phones!

Qreffie I did read the link you posted. Thanks so much, it was very helpful. I did not know ICS allowed us to remove apps until reading your link. I was agreeing with b15love when I reiterated that I simply don't need backup assistant. Thanks again for your replies. I'm excited for my first Nexus phone.

Android Cloud

Will Android get something as good as the iphone cloud?

Vegasrich said:
Will Android get something as good as the iphone cloud?
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what does icloud do that android doesnt? from what I see, it stores your contacts on the cloud, Android does that.. it stores documents on the cloud, android does that many different ways but officially with google docs. Music is in the cloud (google music) It seems like every thing that the icloud does there are tons of android apps/services that do the same stuff.. Some officaly made by google, some by 3rd party.

I understand what your saying. The icloud backs up everything and if you have to reset your phone it sets it up exactly how u had it. Like titanium backup would but u need root for that.
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musclehead84 said:
I understand what your saying. The icloud backs up everything and if you have to reset your phone it sets it up exactly how u had it. Like titanium backup would but u need root for that.
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I was wondering what he meant. But that is a nice feature.
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Actually if you had an HTC phone that was done for you. I was a little shock when I noticed my apps and background did not load up when I put my email address in. Coming from the OG Evo that is 1 thing I do miss. I would flash a new rom put my email address in and voila my apps and setup came back

iCloud isnt all that great. The contacts sync messes with your contacts picture sizes on incoming calls and the photostream doesnt have an official site to view the photos. Everything else is easily dont through google.The backup features nice but thats about all I use.

the advantage of the icloud that I'd like to see with android is making a change in one place its updated on all of your devices.

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the advantage of the icloud that I'd like to see with android is making a change in one place its updated on all of your devices.
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That was my point..

Yeah. Its called Google.
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Apple stole cloud from us...
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playya said:
Actually if you had an HTC phone that was done for you. I was a little shock when I noticed my apps and background did not load up when I put my email address in. Coming from the OG Evo that is 1 thing I do miss. I would flash a new rom put my email address in and voila my apps and setup came back
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I had an Evo and it most certainly did not do that, nor did my Evo3D....in fact I'm pretty sure that's one thing Sense just never did. Now, when I installed Cyanogen (or anything else close to vanilla Android) I was blown away when I wiped and booted up and decided "screw it, I'll set it up again later" and came back to a nearly identical phone.
...also when I had my Evo4G when I would change my background on my phone it would change it on my Nook Color (both with CM7). I never quite figured out how or why that happened, but, I did rather like it.

In ICS Google has resolved the issues with your settings and apps being restored when you refresh your phone. It works in CM7 and in Honeycomb from my experience - but not consistently.

Google should create icloud-like app backup system

Seriously, this is the only thing that makes me root. I used to root for a whole bunch of other stuff, but I've been getting so busy as of late, where flashing just has not been feasible for my time.
On the iPhone, you are able to go into the iCloud settings menu, and tick on or off each and every app+appdata that you want to backup. This puts the data in the cloud, but that part I don't really care about, I'm fine putting the backup data on my 32gb worth of storage. The drive support would be an excellent bonus.
Alas, I don't think it'll happen for a long while... and therefore god bless Titanium Track & his amazing backup app. Although sometimes problematic, it is a handy app.

Google I/O is in a few weeks. Maybe they'll announce something similar.
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The thing is, Google already does this, the issue being hardly any apps take advantage of it, and there's no transparency about which apps do and don't do it.
Since they already do it, I'd hope they just clarify and setup a standard for it.

Yeah, like was said earlier, Google provides a way for apps to include data as a part of the backup that is used when restore. I'm not sure why app developers don't take advantage of it however.

bozzykid said:
Yeah, like was said earlier, Google provides a way for apps to include data as a part of the backup that is used when restore. I'm not sure why app developers don't take advantage of it however.
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Well i tried it and Titanium back has never backed up my entire backup to box, drive, dropbox...It always fails like 10/15 min after starting to upload... "shrug"

Big disadvantage of not having a function similar to icloud
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I love the icloud feature on iOS. If you get a new iphone or ipad, you spend 2 minutes getting everything transfered from old phone/tablet to the new one. Making it very easy to upgrade to newer models.
Why doesn't Android/Samsung give the same functionality? Now I am afraid, if I loose my Galaxy S3, I loose all the settings/apps and stuff. I know there are some rather complicated ways to root and back up, but I want an easy method, where the phone makes a cloud back up, everytime it is connected to wifi, and plugged in, just like iCloud.
In Galaxy S3, there is a feature called device backup with samsung account (which cupposibly should do the same thing), but it keeps coming with some connectivity error.
Could/would anyone help me with this?
Thanks..
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keepitrealdude said:
Hi
I love the icloud feature on iOS. If you get a new iphone or ipad, you spend 2 minutes getting everything transfered from old phone/tablet to the new one. Making it very easy to upgrade to newer models.
Why doesn't Android/Samsung give the same functionality? Now I am afraid, if I loose my Galaxy S3, I loose all the settings/apps and stuff. I know there are some rather complicated ways to root and back up, but I want an easy method, where the phone makes a cloud back up, everytime it is connected to wifi, and plugged in, just like iCloud.
In Galaxy S3, there is a feature called device backup with samsung account (which cupposibly should do the same thing), but it keeps coming with some connectivity error.
Could/would anyone help me with this?
Thanks..
Keeping it real.
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I clicked "backup camera to dropbox when on wifi" so every picture i take is backed up. and google already saves my contacts and wifi passwords. Not sure what else you need saved, apps?
Also android cant do that because all the phones are different, with different incompatibilities with software. Apple phones are easy because apple makes the phones and the software. Where as android, google makes the OS while the manufacturers make the phones. This is why some get features like that but only for their phones. Android is fragmented.

Android also downloads and installs the apps you had installed before if you choose " backup with Google and restore". I think That's what it says.. All you have to do is sign in with your gmail account. Same with contacts.
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niamul said:
Android also downloads and installs the apps you had installed before if you choose " backup with Google and restore". I think That's what it says.. All you have to do is sign in with your gmail account. Same with contacts.
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But app data doesn't get synced up. That's bad.

impu153 said:
But app data doesn't get synced up. That's bad.
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My wife's iPhone app data does not seem to be backed up.
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As has been mentioned before, this already exists. Google has had it for a while now. The problem is that app developers have to implement it. If there is an app you want to take advantage of that, the only solution would be to harass the app developer until they add it.

This already exist. The reason why no one really knows about it is because Google doesn't brag about it.
They have more stuff then apple and it's better then apple's system.
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Darunion said:
I clicked "backup camera to dropbox when on wifi" so every picture i take is backed up. and google already saves my contacts and wifi passwords. Not sure what else you need saved, apps?
Also android cant do that because all the phones are different, with different incompatibilities with software. Apple phones are easy because apple makes the phones and the software. Where as android, google makes the OS while the manufacturers make the phones. This is why some get features like that but only for their phones. Android is fragmented.
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Hi. Thanks. Yes I agree woth you on that, But What I want is a feature like icloud. where I all the apps, and other data are preinstalled after a factory reset and reinstall. Samsung does have a feature called Device backup. Don't know if it does the same thing..

keepitrealdude said:
Hi. Thanks. Yes I agree woth you on that, But What I want is a feature like icloud. where I all the apps, and other data are preinstalled after a factory reset and reinstall. Samsung does have a feature called Device backup. Don't know if it does the same thing..
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at least some third part applications can do that ...

Multiple app download from google play.

After factory resetting my GS3, the phone does not automatically downloads all my apps from google play but I have to go in and click one by ONE......
I have hundreds of Apps and it will take very long. How come the phone does not do it anymore. It use to do it every time i reset.
what am I missing?
Thanks,

SDJB said:
After factory resetting my GS3, the phone does not automatically downloads all my apps from google play but I have to go in and click one by ONE......
I have hundreds of Apps and it will take very long. How come the phone does not do it anymore. It use to do it every time i reset.
what am I missing?
Thanks,
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Did you have the the Google backup enabled when you first setup your device?
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If you used a backup utility, such as Titanium Backup, it would save you a lot of headache, bandwidth, and time.
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Secret menu
Look under Goofy Play settings. There is a secret option to auto-update all apps. People forgot about that, but not me. Here. Very simple.

bravomail said:
Look under Goofy Play settings. There is a secret option to auto-update all apps. People forgot about that, but not me. Here. Very simple.
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If this is true sir you are a hero! I've been going through phones and OS on those phones a lot lately and installing one by one is really pissing me off. Google backup is a joke. One time in about 50 has google re-installed my apps after a reset.

jeffdaman said:
If this is true sir you are a hero! I've been going through phones and OS on those phones a lot lately and installing one by one is really pissing me off. Google backup is a joke. One time in about 50 has google re-installed my apps after a reset.
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That's why I only rely on multiple local backups. Cloud backups aren't reliable enough yet.

bravomail said:
Look under Goofy Play settings. There is a secret option to auto-update all apps. People forgot about that, but not me. Here. Very simple.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but this only UPDATES installed apps without user intervention, doesn't actually install an app after a restore correct.. if you've restored how does it know which apps to install?

d3athsd00r said:
That's why I only rely on multiple local backups. Cloud backups aren't reliable enough yet.
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I've never seen a local backup that will do anything more than install a specific version of an app. I want the market app this is up to date and for my current OS. Also I want them to keep receiving updates. If I backed up my apps on 2.3.3 GB Inspire 4G they wouldn't do me much good on ICS GSIII. For that matter some of my ICS apps may trip up JB. I wish I could go on google play, put checkmarks next to the apps I want and have play load them. I hate going through 3 or four screens to install each app. It's as annoying as User Access Control on Win Vista/7.

Sorry but I'm a noon but is there a tutorial on how to use titanium backup to restore multiple apps?
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I'd like to know this too. I used to own the sgs2 and it would piss me off to have to pick and choose my old apps again. But sometimes Google play would do it automatically for me.
Now when using the SGS3 with cm10, it's been pretty good at automatically re downloading my apps. I just need to make sure it stays that way, but I don't know how.
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RiPpeR_dUdE said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this only UPDATES installed apps without user intervention, doesn't actually install an app after a restore correct.. if you've restored how does it know which apps to install?
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Google Sync picks up most apps for you. Off course you need to have Google Sync enabled.
As far as data and other complete backup of apps and new versions of the apps you should purchase TiBu. Titanium Backup a must have for Android users.

If the ROM you flash has the option to "restore from Google" while entering your Google login during initial setup of the ROM, then all your apps will be restored.
If you don't get that option, then they won't be restored.
There is no secret setting in Google Play to get the apps to auto-install after the fact.

blasterrr said:
Google Sync picks up most apps for you. Off course you need to have Google Sync enabled.
As far as data and other complete backup of apps and new versions of the apps you should purchase TiBu. Titanium Backup a must have for Android users.
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I just use TiBu, never had a problem and can select which Apps/Data I want to restore.

SDJB said:
After factory resetting my GS3, the phone does not automatically downloads all my apps from google play but I have to go in and click one by ONE......
I have hundreds of Apps and it will take very long. How come the phone does not do it anymore. It use to do it every time i reset.
what am I missing?
Thanks,
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Seriously...hundreds of apps? How many GB is that?

How do you backup your game progress in Android?

I still dont quite know if there is a secure way to backup your progress in every game installed in your android device. Many times I reset the device and lose all my progress in all games.
It's something I miss from iTunes, which easily backups all your apps data.
I tried Helium Premium and didn't worked with the game Asphalt 8. I tried copying my progress from my Nexus 10 to my new Nexus 7. Didn't work.
How do you guys backup your games?
Thanks.
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Sensamic said:
I still dont quite know if there is a secure way to backup your progress in every game installed in your android device. Many times I reset the device and lose all my progress in all games.
It's something I miss from iTunes, which easily backups all your apps data.
I tried Helium Premium and didn't worked with the game Asphalt 8. I tried copying my progress from my Nexus 10 to my new Nexus 7. Didn't work.
How do you guys backup your games?
Thanks.
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Have you tried Titanium Backup? Do a backup with data of the game and it should be restorable later. If you're transferring between devices, then you might need to adb pull the backup files and adb push them into the correct folder on the new device.
Actually, if you do use Titanium Backup, you could also just hook your Nexus 10 up to the computer and use Windows Explorer to browse into the TitaniumBackup folder to copy them onto your computer using the GUI, since it's in /sdcard/. Do the same thing to copy them from your computer onto the new device and restore them. You'll have to figure out which files are the ones you need for that game. If you want to avoid any confusion, only backup the game and no other apps in Titanium Backup, then all the files in that folder all pertain to that game. There should around 3 files, and more-or-less have names that are similar to whatever app you need.
For the record: I don't really play games on my tablet or phone. The steps above are all just what I think should work. I actually bought Asphalt 8 and have two devices (Nexus 4 and Nexus 7) that I would want to sync my saves between if I really got into it and I would use the above method if I really wanted to sync them. One thing to note: it probably won't be very wieldy if you are wanting to continually transfer save files between the two devices (to continue progress on the other device, then back on the other one). It'll get old having to do that often.

Sensamic said:
I still dont quite know if there is a secure way to backup your progress in every game installed in your android device. Many times I reset the device and lose all my progress in all games.
It's something I miss from iTunes, which easily backups all your apps data.
I tried Helium Premium and didn't worked with the game Asphalt 8. I tried copying my progress from my Nexus 10 to my new Nexus 7. Didn't work.
How do you guys backup your games?
Thanks.
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Actually, Asphalt 8 has cloud capabilities. You just need to go to settings on your Nexus 10 and click Connect. Sign in with Google or Facebook and then it is saved. Then all you have to do is go to your Nexus 7 and connect your game with the same social media account that you connected your Asphalt 8 on your Nexus 10 to. It should work, I have done this when switching ROMs on my Nexus 7. ( Btw I use titanium backup and sometimes Helium too)

Ok, I just found out something.
I deleted Asphalt 8 on my Nexus 10, which is where I had all my progress, and the installed it again. When opening the game a pop-up window appeared and told me of I wanted to restore my previous progress, located in the cloud. I said yes and it worked.
So I guess the cloud save feature only works inside each device, meaning it can't be synced to other devices, cause in my Nexus 7 it hasn't told me to restore.

Titanium backup is good. Data Sync is another that let's you automatically sync between various devices over the network and/or save to cloud storage like Dropbox or Box.net
It can automatically find devices to sync with. It is smart enough to compare timestamps and only update newer files. You can sync "on change", on demand, or a set time, WiFi only etc. Works really well. It can also sync your devices and cloud storage at the same time.
Even with one device, it's handy just to get your backups off your device incase there is an accident.
Just install it on all your androids and launch it on one.
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Sensamic said:
I still dont quite know if there is a secure way to backup your progress in every game installed in your android device. Many times I reset the device and lose all my progress in all games.
It's something I miss from iTunes, which easily backups all your apps data.
I tried Helium Premium and didn't worked with the game Asphalt 8. I tried copying my progress from my Nexus 10 to my new Nexus 7. Didn't work.
How do you guys backup your games?
Thanks.
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Are you rooted to begin with? I noticed that this was not mentioned. If you are not, then Titanium Backup is worthless to you.

aarsyl said:
Are you rooted to begin with? I noticed that this was not mentioned. If you are not, then Titanium Backup is worthless to you.
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Not rooted yet. But I would like to know how to backup games whether it's with root or some other way. I can root whenever I want but need to know first how to backup games.

I don't think that you can. But I don't think that you have to delete all of your data to root, but don't quote me on that. Just make sure that you follow each step correctly. Read ahead before you so anything.
I made a mistake while I was routing, and had to wipe the internal memory. Want a big deal for me, since I only had it for one day before I tried.
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Having a hard time syncing my Asphalt 8 progress between my two devices: Nexus 7 and SGS3.
I managed to copy my progress from the Nexus to the phone and then lost everything on the Nexus. Now I can't get it to sync from the phone to the Nexus...
It always appears the screen telling me I have two accounts: local and cloud. Which one I want to keep?
It's a mess.
Anyone knows how can I just keep it synced between the two devices? What options do I need to choose on both for them to sync properly?

I use a combination of both Titanium Backup (TB) AND Helium.
I found out for some apps, either TB failed or Helium failed. For example, I backed up "Walking Dead: Assault" with TB and although the backup was successful, restoring the app did not bring the game back to where I left off. Helium works, though. And yes.. I did select backup "data" too.

how to manually restore helium backup?

I just use go backup. Though I haven't tested it on asphalt, all my games except cytus and deemo work. Those 2 would not launch after and had to clear data of the app to get it to launch.
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Unfortunately, there's nothing like the iTunes backup feature on android. Being root the most advisable app is Titanium backup. Without root, you can use the built in adb backup with -apk option, but beware is not complete. Some games have it's own servers to store savegames or own accounts. Google Saved Games is a feature that allows you to sync savegames between different devices provided that the game has the feature.
[INFO] List of games that do and don't support Google Saved Games

This is how I lost my warranty every time, rooting my samsung to be able to use Titanium Backup, tripping KNOX.
And just because over the last years of Android development there is no native way to save and restore deep app data without root.
Why is that? Is it so hard to implement it?
And why must android apps store user-specific data in more then one place in the memory?
This is a feature that should have been implemented in Android core a long time ago:
Settings > applications > select apps to back up > generate an exportable file (protect it with password if that is the concern)
Settings > applications > restore apps > select your backup > select wick applications to restore
And this to work between all Android devices and versions.
In fact Google Play Store app could be updated by Google to provide this functionality and even make backups on the cloud ...but nobody cares...
Also I am not sure how is that option which is now prompting the user to do a backup/restore at a device initial set-up. How much does it actually back up/restore?