After a pretty serious amount of searching, I still haven't been able to find a straightforward explanation of what works on which Note 2 on which network as far as 3G/4G service goes. (There was only one that came close, and it still didn't seem to actually be complete.) While the consensus seems to be that the T-Mo phone is the most flexible, what I've been able to cobble together is that the answer is much closer to "depends on what you want to use it for." (Duh, right?) So here's what I understand so far -- please feel free to correct me if I have any of this wrong, and I'll update (or if you think carriers/devices should be added to the list, comment with sources and I'll add on the info):
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T-Mo T889 (stock unlocked): up to 42 MBps DC-HSPA+ on T-Mobile network (1900MHz); up to HSPA on AT&T network (trying to verify)
AT&T i317 (stock, unlocked): LTE on 700MHz on AT&T network (and future AWS when AT&T gets around to deploying); EDGE on T-Mobile network
T889 with T-Mo LTE unlock (est. Spring 2013): may possibly also enable LTE on AT&T network.
T889 with flashed AT&T radio (or NV partition edit): unknown -- no success to date. Hypothesized that it may enable LTE on AT&T network.
i317 with flashed T889 radio (or NV partition edit): loses AT&T LTE capability; gains HSPA+ (non-DC) on T-Mobile network (DC yet to be verified?)
No idea as to what would happen if/when an i317 can be flashed with a post-Spring 2013 T-Mo radio.
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So the conclusions I seem to draw from this are:
If you want guaranteed highest speeds out of either service today, and some possibility of T-Mo LTE support in the future, get the AT&T phone and get used to playing around with radio swaps.
If you want the guaranteed highest speed out of T-Mo in a few months (and now, obviously), and some possibility of getting the highest speed out of AT&T (aka LTE) whenever xda-developers' ingenuity figures it out, get the T-Mo phone.
How does this sound to you guys?
Bewn looking into the same thing looks as the t889 should somehow be able to get lte on att but still cant find how
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After a pretty serious amount of searching, I still haven't been able to find a straightforward explanation of what works on which Note 2 on which network as far as 3G/4G service goes. (There was only one that came close, and it still didn't seem to actually be complete.) While the consensus seems to be that the T-Mo phone is the most flexible, what I've been able to cobble together is that the answer is much closer to "depends on what you want to use it for." (Duh, right?) So here's what I understand so far -- please feel free to correct me if I have any of this wrong, and I'll update (or if you think carriers/devices should be added to the list, comment with sources and I'll add on the info):
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T-Mo T889 (stock unlocked): up to 42 MBps DC-HSPA+ on T-Mobile network (1900MHz); up to HSPA on AT&T network (trying to verify)
AT&T i317 (stock, unlocked): LTE on 700MHz on AT&T network (and future AWS when AT&T gets around to deploying); EDGE on T-Mobile network
T889 with T-Mo LTE unlock (est. Spring 2013): may possibly also enable LTE on AT&T network.
T889 with flashed AT&T radio: unknown -- no success to date. Hypothesized that it may enable LTE on AT&T network.
i317 with flashed T889 radio: loses AT&T LTE capability; gains HSPA+ (non-DC) on T-Mobile network (DC yet to be verified?)
No idea as to what would happen if/when an i317 can be flashed with a post-Spring 2013 T-Mo radio.
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So the conclusions I seem to draw from this are:
If you want guaranteed highest speeds out of either service today, and some possibility of T-Mo LTE support in the future, get the AT&T phone and get used to playing around with radio swaps.
If you want the guaranteed highest speed out of T-Mo in a few months (and now, obviously), and some possibility of getting the highest speed out of AT&T (aka LTE) whenever xda-developers' ingenuity figures it out, get the T-Mo phone.
How does this sound to you guys?
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Short answer, AT&T Note 2 can get full speed HSPA+ on T-Mobile and LTE on AT&T... I currently have it that way... You need to activate AWS bands on NV partition... I also have the T889 and the T889 can do the same... Remember what I have been telling since day 1... They are both the same phone... Just with different signals pre activated by their respective carriers...
Your search was not too serious, lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068041
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As I understand it the note 2 is the first phone to have all the different model have the same physical design and the software is very close to the same as well. I beleive that there are two internatinal ones the gsm and lte. All the us versions are based off the lte one so they are all very similar. I think we even have a few roms in the dev section now that are based off sprints rom. I could be wrong though. I was a little confused at first because usually on tmo our phone would be based off the gsm interntinal but not this time.
I gotta say I am really happy with samsung. And I am impressed with what they have accomplished with this phone and the sgs3. They told the carriers to go to hell and did it their way this time. I think they were able to do it because android is like 60% of the worlds cell phone market and samsung is like 75% of android sales. I am sure the numbers are off but I remember reading about that last year. Sorry to go off topic a little bit.
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Short answer, AT&T Note 2 can get full speed HSPA+ on T-Mobile and LTE on AT&T... I currently have it that way... You need to activate AWS bands on NV partition... I also have the T889 and the T889 can do the same... Remember what I have been telling since day 1... They are both the same phone... Just with different signals pre activated by their respective carriers...
Your search was not too serious, lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068041
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You've done this with the T889? Sounded like you haven't yet from the linked thread.
Keep us up to date on exact steps and success here in the T mobile forum section please.
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You've done this with the T889? Sounded like you haven't yet from the linked thread.
Keep us up to date on exact steps and success here in the T mobile forum section please.
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What steps ? It's for the AT&T version......use the search feature dude.
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What steps ? It's for the AT&T version......use the search feature dude.
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Uh, that's his point. And mine, for that matter. AT&T only so far - meaning my OP is currently correct. Nobody has done it on T-Mo (at least that has reported it here). "Hardware is the same," yeah, we all know that, but we also know the software isn't, so it's a matter of what we've actually tried and succeeded with and have confirmation of.
When somebody actually reports a success with T-Mo they can confirm, I'll update.
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Short answer, AT&T Note 2 can get full speed HSPA+ on T-Mobile and LTE on AT&T... I currently have it that way... You need to activate AWS bands on NV partition... I also have the T889 and the T889 can do the same... Remember what I have been telling since day 1... They are both the same phone... Just with different signals pre activated by their respective carriers...
Your search was not too serious, lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068041
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Sorry, poor assumption on your part. I found that. Did you read past the first post? First post says DC works (which was an edit, apparently yesterday) but post 3 says it only indicates DC, no actual speed bump to DC or 42 speeds. Lots of failures on that thread too. So I listed what worked for the OP. If you'd like to confirm dual-5MHz operation (which you didn't explicitly when you posted your success in that post), maybe some screenshots of the speed change if you have them, that should be fine and I'll edit.
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Sorry, poor assumption on your part. I found that. Did you read past the first post? First post says DC works (which was an edit, apparently yesterday) but post 3 says it only indicates DC, no actual speed bump to DC or 42 speeds. Lots of failures on that thread too. So I listed what worked for the OP. If you'd like to confirm dual-5MHz operation (which you didn't explicitly when you posted your success in that post), maybe some screenshots of the speed change if you have them, that should be fine and I'll edit.
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Plain and easy... Follow sjravi's post... Restore T889 NV backup to I317 or viceversa in your case... And voila! LTE enabled on T889...
OP Updated... Even easier...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068041
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TEKHD said:
Plain and easy... Follow sjravi's post... Restore T889 NV backup to I317 or viceversa in your case... And voila! LTE enabled on T889...
OP Updated... Even easier...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068041
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Right, like I said, as soon as someone's actually done it successfully I'll update.
I can add the NV method to the radio method, I suppose, since both seem to work on AT&T.
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What steps ? It's for the AT&T version......use the search feature dude.
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Posts like yours aren't much better than trolling. What did it add to the conversation? Search for what?
If you'd actually searched and read the numerous threads across both the i317 and T889 forums, including both the General and Q&A sections, like I have, you'd see multiple claims of it works, or it doesn't work, and varying methods described with people saying they work and don't work. TEKHD has bounced back and forth multiple times on this, along with a few others.
I was just asking for clarification that this was done on a T889 or not, since TEKHD said in the post I was replying to that it does, but in the thread he linked he said it didn't.
This is a T889 forum, isn't it? What do the users of the T889 care about an i317 hack unless the same hack will work for us?
LTE on T889 Phone
Searched and found conflicting repoerts. Is it possible to get the LTE working on AT&T using the Tmobile T889 model of the note 2?
It is thought so, but no one's done it yet.
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It is thought so, but no one's done it yet.
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Ah ok... so i just got ATT today and am using it on my tmobile note 2. DO I need to do anything at all to be getting the best speeds or is it getting the fastest it can right now until someone gets LTE working>?
I hope you guys can help me, I'm frustrated already, I bought an AT&T SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 and also purchased an unlock code, phone was working just fine with 4g on AT&T ( Tested ) but after unlocking I just don't get service when I use a T Mobile or Simple Mobile SIM.
On the About Phone -> Status I do get "Network: T-Mobile/Simple Mobile" ( Depending on the SIM I use ), but I don't even get EDGE, I cant make calls, I get the annoying emergency calls only, its making me crazy. Is there a way to fix this issue?
( I already added the APN settings, but im sure I don't need that to make calls, or get EDGE, I don't know what else to do to fix this ).
Thanks
maybe try factory reset? Possibly flash a different modem as well.
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maybe try factory reset? Possibly flash a different modem as well.
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Factory reset would do nothing, the phone connects to AT&T with no problems, 4G and everything, but not even EDGE on T Mobile.
You already have a thread asking that question. .alot of people get mad when you clutter the forums.
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HELP so confused =[
I have a TMobile Note 2 N-7100, its now unlocked to use with my AT&T sim. it shows that i have 4G speeds, i am searching the threads and getting mixed messages about enabling LTE. i came across this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068041 but it was non-specific about working on At&t, even though if it works which i have not yet confirmed is there another way to enable it without running the risk of "bricking" my phone?
tlee2189 said:
I have a TMobile Note 2 N-7100, its now unlocked to use with my AT&T sim. it shows that i have 4G speeds, i am searching the threads and getting mixed messages about enabling LTE. i came across this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068041 but it was non-specific about working on At&t, even though if it works which i have not yet confirmed is there another way to enable it without running the risk of "bricking" my phone?
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Im confused... do you have a T-mobile Note 2? or a N7100? I beleieve the N7100 is the AWS International one, the Tmobile Note 2 is T889... or you could have an N7100 ROM flashed on a T889 (which existed in order to get 4.1.2 before the Tmo release).
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hi everyone:
I have been looking via numerous thread online on many Android forums especially here and have been unsuccessful for the past 2 days now. So I figured I would need to create a thread and finally give in and ask for some help. I have a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy 3 phone and I need to unlock it so that it will work on my AT&T service. Now i understand about rooting the phone and being able to play with themes etc, but its not that great if I can't use the phone itself.
Now without coming up with some kind of answer I must have watched about 40 youtube video's hoping to find out some kind of information. Mostly what I got out of it was numerous website that offer unlocking for phones at a certain price.
unlockcodesource(.)com
unlock2go(.)com
mobileunlockcodes(.)co.uk
Has anyone ever used any of these website or can someone give me some good advise on how I can get this phone unlocked please/
~Aqua
I think the toolkit stickied in the development forum has an option to SIM unlock the GS3. I have not tried this, and do not know if it works, but if the option is there, you might want to give it a shot.
If you're on contract with t mobile and your account is in good standing with them. Call them tell them you're going over seas and need to unlock your phone so you can use it. They will send you unlock code ... then pop in an att sim card and it will prompt you to enter the unlock code t Mobil gave you. Done
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Crisisx1 said:
If you're on contract with t mobile and your account is in good standing with them. Call them tell them you're going over seas and need to unlock your phone so you can use it. They will send you unlock code ... then pop in an att sim card and it will prompt you to enter the unlock code t Mobil gave you. Done
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OK thank you. I followed your instructions and they said it would take up to maybe 24 hrs for the phone to be unlocked. If it isn't unlocked than she said to call back with the conformation number she gave me. If that doesn't work than they would have to give Samsung my info and could take up to 14 days. She said when you buy phones almost all stands and corp stores have already unlocked phones.
she also said it would be auto unlocked for good. Can they lock the phone back up once it is be unlocked?
~Aqua
edited: Once I have it unlocked ( if all goes good ) do i use the same APN settings that I needed to put into the phone in order for my phone to work on the AT&T network as I did with my S2 that I got unlocked ?
Don't they use different frequencies for HSPA+
You would be relegated to edge speeds, correct me if I'm wrong
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five40 said:
Don't they use different frequencies for HSPA+
You would be relegated to edge speeds, correct me if I'm wrong
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I really don't know. That would be a great question if someone would be nice enough to help me with this information? Again i have a T mobile S3 hopefully its unlocked would I be losing speeds by being on the AT&T network?
thanks
~Aqua
AquaWater said:
I really don't know. That would be a great question if someone would be nice enough to help me with this information? Again i have a T mobile S3 hopefully its unlocked would I be losing speeds by being on the AT&T network?
thanks
~Aqua
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The T-Mobile S3 has the 850/1900 3G bands so it will work on AT&T's 3G network. It will not get LTE though.
You can unlock either by paying for a code from the various resellers online or requesting an unlock code from T-Mobile if you have an account in good standing with them. If you can't get the code from T-Mobile I suggest searching 'T999 unlock' on eBay and you'll find some good options.
The tmobile galaxy s3 will work on the ATnT HSPA+21 frequency. Same frequency the International version runs on for that network.
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Edge network and 3/4G Question
I found an excellent place so far on eBay for buying unlock codes. they have almost 3800 sells with a 99% positive feedback. Great customer service. The guy answered numerous questions of mine and made sure i did everything correctly. Payment was $24.95 US, so hopefullly everything will go good.
He was talking about being on something called an " Edge " network which is a little slower, but he said you won't notice a difference between your unlocked S2 and the unlocked S3 now. Right now my S2 says I have 3G service when I use it. I dont understand how i had a inspire4G, what is the 4G for if AT&T only gives you 3G service? And where I am in United States I should have 4G service no matter what. I'm confused on that.,
AquaWater said:
I found an excellent place so far on eBay for buying unlock codes. they have almost 3800 sells with a 99% positive feedback. Great customer service. The guy answered numerous questions of mine and made sure i did everything correctly. Payment was $24.95 US, so hopefullly everything will go good.
He was talking about being on something called an " Edge " network which is a little slower, but he said you won't notice a difference between your unlocked S2 and the unlocked S3 now. Right now my S2 says I have 3G service when I use it. I dont understand how i had a inspire4G, what is the 4G for if AT&T only gives you 3G service? And where I am in United States I should have 4G service no matter what. I'm confused on that.,
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Edge is 2G speeds, which are substantially slower than 3G speeds. IMHO, 3G speeds are livable, 2G/Edge is not.
Different phones have different radios which work on different frequencies. Some phones are not compatible with other services at all, and some will work on other carriers but often not at optimal speeds.
Darmokk said:
Edge is 2G speeds, which are substantially slower than 3G speeds. IMHO, 3G speeds are livable, 2G/Edge is not.
Different phones have different radios which work on different frequencies. Some phones are not compatible with other services at all, and some will work on other carriers but often not at optimal speeds.
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So than why would someone suggest that I would get "edge" instead of what i have now? I'm getting 3G now with my T-Mobile S2 unlocked on AT&T, but now I'm going to have an unlocked S3, why wouldn't it be the same?
Because the radios in the devices are different.
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So than why would someone suggest that I would get "edge" instead of what i have now?
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Because he/she doesn't know what he/she is talking about. You will be fine with a T-Mobile S3 on AT&T.
That's what I said earlier in not so many words.
Voice willl work fine you will not see HSPA+ speeds on At&t with a T-Mobile Galaxy SIII.
If the T-Mobile SIII has the hardware capability to support the At&t HSPA+ bands you would need modified radio software to unlock this ability.
I believe this was done on the Galaxy Note to tun on T-Mobile HSPA+ network before it was officially launched on T-Mobile.
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
five40 said:
That's what I said earlier in not so many words.
Voice willl work fine you will not see HSPA+ speeds on At&t with a T-Mobile Galaxy SIII.
If the T-Mobile SIII has the hardware capability to support the At&t HSPA+ bands you would need modified radio software to unlock this ability.
I believe this was done on the Galaxy Note to tun on T-Mobile HSPA+ network before it was officially launched on T-Mobile.
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
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I unlocked my t999 and am using an att straight talk sim getting HSPA speeds. Going to switch back to tmobile prepay because it is way faster than att HSPA with better latency. Although coverage may be lacking, i may just switch to an att ST sim.
To answer your question, a Tmobile S3 will work on ATT HSPA+ network with the HSPA+ Speeds of up to 6-7mbps in NYC area. The average I've been getting is around 2-3.5 mbps. With the tmobile prepay sim I have, it's usually around 2-18mbps down in NYC area.
The T-mobile S3 will not work on the ATT LTE network because it lacks that radio (or so they say for now); there have been other threads suspecting it's just a matter of flashing the right radio to "turn on" the ATT LTE radio. However, if all you want is HSPA+ speeds, rest assured it will work fine.
The ATT S3 is lacking the AWS bands for TMobile so it will not get the HSPA+ on Tmobile.
Best regards.
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First off, I would like to thank everyone who has been helping me along with my issues with my phone. I appreciate it a lot and I'm picking up more knowledge more and more everyday from you guys and reading heavily on the forums.
if the hardware in the phone doesn't support HSPA+ 1) will i have to root the phone and 2) change the radio? And 3 ) if I change the radio does that mean I would need to install a custom ROM i order for it to work properly?
Also, from one of the post they said "The T-Mobile S3 has the 850/1900 3G bands " - of that is true will than I should be able to have the 3G speeds correct?
I really hope I am not making some people angry, I'm new to this and trying my hardest to understand everything so I don't make mistakes. Please bare with me. Again, thank you so much everyone who has contributed so far. I still have a lot to learn. The reason why is because I just don't want it to work ( I do, want it to work ) but I want to understand why everything is working they way it is and I've over the past almost month have been picking up a lot of knowledge. Can't wait to hear from you guys
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
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No, actually, you are wrong. The T-Mobile S3 does not need any modification to work properly on AT&T's HSPA network. Seems you are confusing something else with frequency. Quit spreading bad information.
OP: Don't worry about it. Some are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. As said before, if you have the T999, you will be fine on AT&T's HSPA network without any modifications (other than an account...lol). Just get the phone SIM-unlocked, pop in the right SIM, you are good to go. Seriously, it is that easy.
Well there it is, I stand corrected!
I had no idea the T-Mobile SIII supports At&t HSPA+ bands.
Is the same true to all T-Mobile HSPA+ phones?
Sorry for any issues, just learning
Hi everyone,
thanks so much for the info. Will the S2 I needed to put in certain APN settings inorder to receive MMS ( picture ) via texts. Do i use the same settings for the Samsung Galaxy 3?
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No, actually, you are wrong. The T-Mobile S3 does not need any modification to work properly on AT&T's HSPA network. Seems you are confusing something else with frequency. Quit spreading bad information.
OP: Don't worry about it. Some are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. As said before, if you have the T999, you will be fine on AT&T's HSPA network without any modifications (other than an account...lol). Just get the phone SIM-unlocked, pop in the right SIM, you are good to go. Seriously, it is that easy.
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I too have learned from this thread
So I've read thru many threads on here and found people that seemed to have flashed their tmobile ROM onto their AT&T device in order to get proper 3G+ speeds.
1) Does this actually work?
2) Is it better to flash the other way (if possible, AT&T rom onto Tmobile) in order to get maximum service from both phones? What is the best/better phone to purchase for future LTE future proofing?
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So I've read thru many threads on here and found people that seemed to have flashed their tmobile ROM onto their AT&T device in order to get proper 3G+ speeds.
1) Does this actually work?
2) Is it better to flash the other way (if possible, AT&T rom onto Tmobile) in order to get maximum service from both phones? What is the best/better phone to purchase for future LTE future proofing?
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I am also on the t-mobile Q&A section looking for answers... the best phone for future proof and LTE is the AT&T version... no doubt... now... I am waiting for an AT&T Stock Rooted WITH MODEM included in the same flash zip before I begin testing myself... I already ordered from ebay a dual sim card adapter for the Note 2, and the Note 2 is already unlocked... so... any news on this would be great...
I just flashed Tmobile Jedi X3 with my att note 2...all working perfectly....the steps I took was just to flash rom and one of our att kernels and youll be fine...didnt have to flash modem....just put my straight talk apn in done....Everything perfect...btw jedi X3 is super fast....:good::highfive:
jaggyjagz said:
So I've read thru many threads on here and found people that seemed to have flashed their tmobile ROM onto their AT&T device in order to get proper 3G+ speeds.
1) Does this actually work?
2) Is it better to flash the other way (if possible, AT&T rom onto Tmobile) in order to get maximum service from both phones? What is the best/better phone to purchase for future LTE future proofing?
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Sounds like you might be in the same boat as me. Anxious to get a Note II but not sure which network to commit to with it. Your comment about needing to get a TMo ROM to get "proper 3G+ speeds" is disconcerting. It also pushes me a bit towards TMo since it's got the LTE radio promised for future update.
What exactly is wrong with the stock device's 3G+ speeds on AT&T?
Where I live and work (Los Angeles area - San Fernando & Santa Clarita valleys), LTE's not activated, and no firm date when it will come our way. AT&T's HSPA data speeds here aren't anything to write home about, but neither are TMo's when I tested one of their devices in the local shop. My AT&T phone is lucky to get 4Mb/s down, 0.2Mb/s up, and generally only about 2-3Mb/s down. The TMo Galaxy SIII I tested got 4MB/s down. Hard numbers to swallow when I've got an SIII on VZW LTE pulling down 20Mb/s in the same area.
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I just flashed Tmobile Jedi X3 with my att note 2...all working perfectly....the steps I took was just to flash rom and one of our att kernels and youll be fine...didnt have to flash modem....just put my straight talk apn in done....Everything perfect...btw jedi X3 is super fast....:good::highfive:
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Jedy 3 is an international rom, not T-Mobile with wifi calling... with 3.5G on T-mobile on Jedi 3? (HSPA+)
Clarification Requested
alewis2k12 said:
I just flashed Tmobile Jedi X3 with my att note 2...all working perfectly....the steps I took was just to flash rom and one of our att kernels and youll be fine...didnt have to flash modem....just put my straight talk apn in done....Everything perfect...btw jedi X3 is super fast....:good::highfive:
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I need clarification on this. Just because the ROM flashed worked, doesn't necessarily mean the proper AWS radio's were activated to attain 4G speeds that are required on T-mobile (this is nothing to do with LTE).
Are you saying that by flashing the tmobile ROM onto your at&t note 2, you are able to attain all connections (not just Edge, but HSPA+ 4G) with your AT&T device to tmobile using AWS? I know Tmobile has begun refarming out to 4G on a different band that is compatible with more handsets, so you might just be in an area where they have already done so, which mistakes you into believing that you are actually connecting via the old school AWS Tmobile bands, when you aren't.
I really need to decide which phone I want to take the risk on - The tmobile LTE is locked apparently, doesn't seem to show as many capable bands as the AT&T version, and also, I'm not sure what to bank on in terms of there being a software vs hardware lock (Would be nice if the tmobile can be unlocked via software to fully operate on all LTE modes that the AT&T supports).
I'm actually in Canada, and would probably end up needing to purchase the Wind version in order to get what I'm looking for (since Wind operates on the same AWS frequencies as tmobile). But losing out on Bell/Rogers/Telus LTE in the process is just something I don't want to do either.
Going to have to see what can be unlocked via software on all these different phones................
I would also appreciate a response from someone if this is possible... using T-Mobile ROM and modem to work on At&t (with aws frequencies).... just like the S2 I717 mod which after flashing was working with aws frequencies....
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I would also appreciate a response from someone if this is possible... using T-Mobile ROM and modem to work on At&t (with aws frequencies).... just like the S2 I717 mod which after flashing was working with aws frequencies....
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Yes... it should... as soon as I get my dual sim card adapter for the Note 2... I will post a million results/combinations here on T-Mobile and AT&T forums... I just don't want to open the back cover 30 times a day and swap sims a bunch of times... with the adapter I just insert the 2 sim cards and done... testing all the way from that point on...
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I shall be waiting impatiently.... and would happily buy you a beer for your effort
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Yes u can .. I confirm this.. using at&t rom on my tmobile note 2
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AT&T Note 2 on T-mobile 3G/4G?
sanchitgrover said:
Yes u can .. I confirm this.. using at&t rom on my tmobile note 2
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I have the SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 from AT&T, unlocked via unlock code from AT&T. No root, stock AT&T android 4.1.1. I got the t-mobile microSIM card with an unlimited talk and 2GB unlimited data plan, but I can not get tmobile 3G/4G working reliably. I get HSDPA/HSPAP/UMTS/EDGE randomly. 80% EDGE, 20% high speed between 4-8mbps down, 0.7-1.9mbps up. I am in Los Angeles, CA.
I know my SGH-I317 does not have the 1700MHz antenna needed for t-mobile 3G/4G data, but somehow I get 3G/4G 20% of the time. I have not adjusted any special settings on my phone, other than to reset the APN to default epc .tmobile .com. My guess I am getting 3G/4G via the 2100MHz antenna for download, but without the 1700MHz for fast upload, I get 0.7-1.9mbps only. But most of the time I am stuck at EDGE.
So has anyone gotten the AT&T Note II to reliably work on t-mobile 3G/4G? is there a special setting I need to enter on my phone? does flashing the t-mobile ROM on the AT&T phone solve any of the 3G/4G issue? or will I lose the unlock on my phone when I root or when I flash t-mobile ROM on my AT&T Note 2?
Any help greatly appreciated.
SGh i317 unlocked on T-mobile with 4g
rob00 said:
I have the SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 from AT&T, unlocked via unlock code from AT&T. No root, stock AT&T android 4.1.1. I got the t-mobile microSIM card with an unlimited talk and 2GB unlimited data plan, but I can not get tmobile 3G/4G working reliably. I get HSDPA/HSPAP/UMTS/EDGE randomly. 80% EDGE, 20% high speed between 4-8mbps down, 0.7-1.9mbps up. I am in Los Angeles, CA.
I know my SGH-I317 does not have the 1700MHz antenna needed for t-mobile 3G/4G data, but somehow I get 3G/4G 20% of the time. I have not adjusted any special settings on my phone, other than to reset the APN to default epc .tmobile .com. My guess I am getting 3G/4G via the 2100MHz antenna for download, but without the 1700MHz for fast upload, I get 0.7-1.9mbps only. But most of the time I am stuck at EDGE.
So has anyone gotten the AT&T Note II to reliably work on t-mobile 3G/4G? is there a special setting I need to enter on my phone? does flashing the t-mobile ROM on the AT&T phone solve any of the 3G/4G issue? or will I lose the unlock on my phone when I root or when I flash t-mobile ROM on my AT&T Note 2?
Any help greatly appreciated.
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Hey I got a unlocked & Rooted At&t Note 2 on T-mobile running CleanRom with perfect 4g. Before I rooted my phone I changed my phones modem to T-mobiles because I only had edge. After that I have flashed several different At&t Roms and still have 4g. On speed test I get about 7-9mbs download and 2-3 mbs on upload not the best but way better than edge
Do you get LTE yet
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Do you get LTE yet
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I dont know...LTE for t-mobile isn't in Jacksonville FL yet. I am suppose to be going to California in a month or two and from what i heard , there is LTE in the biigger cities Im excited to find out and i'll keep you updated if i do.
I have att note 2 running clean rom with ublocked carrier on t mo. Here in la I have not see lte but we are aleay quite late getting upgrade. Most likely you will need to go to san francisco or techie area to test it
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I have att note 2 running clean rom with ublocked carrier on t mo. Here in la I have not see lte but we are aleay quite late getting upgrade. Most likely you will need to go to san francisco or techie area to test it
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Yea your right...hey i know this has nothing to do with this thread but i want to ask you something. You have the exact set up that i am currently using.I also have an unlocked At&t Note 2 SGH-i317 on T-mobile running CleanRom SE1.5. I absoulutely love it. I like the stock look with better performance. Are you using another Kernel? And im also thinking about flashing a new Rom what would you recommend? Im kinda looking for something Similar to Clean but better battery life. Any Suggestions???
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Yea your right...hey i know this has nothing to do with this thread but i want to ask you something. You have the exact set up that i am currently using.I also have an unlocked At&t Note 2 SGH-i317 on T-mobile running CleanRom SE1.5. I absoulutely love it. I like the stock look with better performance. Are you using another Kernel? And im also thinking about flashing a new Rom what would you recommend? Im kinda looking for something Similar to Clean but better battery life. Any Suggestions???
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I am actually using the CleanROM 4.5 (haven't flashed 4.6.1 as I do not see much new on that ROM). I am actually using it on the stock kernel because I am not a huge flasher like many of the members here. Since Note 2 is my daily driver, I don't want to keep updating it and customize it after each ROM flashing. I like the CleanROM 4.5 since it was the way I got it and I just updated to the new version. The battery life is pretty good as I can last a day or more with moderate use.
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I am actually using the CleanROM 4.5 (haven't flashed 4.6.1 as I do not see much new on that ROM). I am actually using it on the stock kernel because I am not a huge flasher like many of the members here. Since Note 2 is my daily driver, I don't want to keep updating it and customize it after each ROM flashing. I like the CleanROM 4.5 since it was the way I got it and I just updated to the new version. The battery life is pretty good as I can last a day or more with moderate use.
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Yea im the same way. You have an At&t note 2 too?
yep using ATT Note 2 on TMo's network.
Morning guys...
This is my very first thread on this forum so please bear with me if something was not done the right way.
Since I couldn't find an specific thread for this specific topic that's why I decided to post a new thread on this.
This thread will help you get a Stock AT&T Samsung SGH-i317 Galaxy Note II LTE phone with a stock ROM into Simple Mobile network with working 4G.
I can't guarantee this method would work on other Galaxy Note II models so please make sure your phone is exactly the same as the specs described on this link.
Also please be aware I cannot and will not be responsible for any damage this thread could cause to your phone. All I can say is, I tried this myself on my own phone and it worked for me and my only intention here is to share my experience to other users on my same situation.
So let's get into business!
Verify the phone specs. Please make sure your phone is an AT&T Samsung SGH-i317 Galaxy Note II LTE phone and that it matches the specs described here.
Get your phone unlocked. On a personal note this appears to be a must, so if you can't get it unlocked for some reason don't even bother moving forward down the list. I followed this thread to unlock my phone. Yes, the thread is for a Galaxy Note I, but it still worked for me.
Get it rooted. That can be done here.
Flash a stock T-Mobile ROM. That also can be done here which is the same thread as of step 3.
Enable AWS band. Is worth mentioning if you made it here successfully, then you already can use Simple Mobile just fine!, however you'll be stuck on 2G/EDGE unless you Enable AWS band here. This will let you enable 3G and 4G on your phone!.
Now at this point I'm sure you may be able to use another ROM of your desire, but I'm not 100% sure if that would work. On my personal recommendation I would first try the 5 steps EXACTLY as described above. Then if you still want to use another ROM, then you may need to repeat steps 4 and 5 with another ROM.
Now I also want to say, the credit is not all mine here. All I did was to compile the information altogether for you guys. Please don't forget to thank me, as well as the original thread owners compiled in this list.
Good luck in the Kitchen!
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^^^Thanks, thread moved to general and stuck for easy reference.
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Wait, You Menchtened LTE and 4G, And in which T-Mobile doesnt have. T-Mobile has 3G/3.5G HSPA+ but not 4G..
U dont need aws band on at&t phonez lmao noobs all u need is your phone unlocked and youll get on t-mobiles fake 4g .its cause t-mobile now shares at&t spectrum stop giveing people false info.
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That is not entirely true sir. Not ALL areas have the 1900mhz Tmobile yet. You do need to unlock the AWS band for some areas to get the 4g. In my area (South Florida) they happen to have the 1900mhz 4g. I know because I sold an unlocked Infuse 4g (AT&T phone) to a buddy with a tmobile sim card and he got 4g on his phone.
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U dont need aws band on at&t phonez lmao noobs all u need is your phone unlocked and youll get on t-mobiles fake 4g .its cause t-mobile now shares at&t spectrum stop giveing people false info.
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lol ignorance speaks. People, dont listen to this clown.
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That is not entirely true sir. Not ALL areas have the 1900mhz Tmobile yet. You do need to unlock the AWS band for some areas to get the 4g. In my area (South Florida) they happen to have the 1900mhz 4g. I know because I sold an unlocked Infuse 4g (AT&T phone) to a buddy with a tmobile sim card and he got 4g on his phone.
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Good information man. Ignore the OTHER GUY that is giving false information.
Everything worked for me, except one thing: CDMA VS GSM preference.
My CDMA signal is weak, so 4g cuts out. The phone just wants to default to EDGE as a first priority. How can I make CDMA the default preference so I always get 4g when available?
thanks!
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lol ignorance speaks. People, dont listen to this clown.
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Yeah who listening to you.
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I have a sgh-i317 with at&t radio uamc3 or something like that and jedi master 14 with aws mod. I also restored my friends nv item backup from his sgh-t889 with jedi master 14. I am getting the 4g bands but my phone will not connect to the lte bands of t mobile. is anyone else having this problem? I have tried everything to get lte includes odin to stock wich should allow me to connect to tmobiles lte but wont. other people are connecting with no problem. can anyonw help me think of more ways to fix this. or is this particular phone not support 1700mhzaws. I really dont get it as the specs everyware state it does. also when I select all lte bands and selct t mobile it say unable to connect, try again later. I put my sim in a s4 t mobile and lte works so it cant be the sim. I also put at&t sim in my phone and lte works so my lte chip/radio is working fine. is maybe the free unlock methode not unlocking my phone completely? any way to relock and do it with an an unlock code. franky I am puzzled. I am in an area getting t mobile lte, confirmed on both my friends with a note 2 and s4 from t mobile.
Group MMS is DELAYED!!! WHY!!
I switched from an iPhone(which was fine) to a Nexus 4 and the Nexus was a disaster.
I figured the Nexus 4 was messed up so I sold it and then got the Note 2. Its T Mobile's version and unlocked.
I changed the APN settings to the LTE one and it hasnt really made a difference. AT&T stated that I'm on the correct LTE plan. I tried GO SMS Pro and it really didnt fix it
The delays are sometimes 3-5 min, sometimes 6-12 hours. Most annoying is that when I try to send a MMS, it gets stuck in the sending phase. Id need to send another MMS to push the one thats not sending. Sucks.
What is going on? Is it Android? Could it be because its not an official AT&T phone(but I heard its technically the same phone). Is there something else I should try?
I give up guys. Can someone plz help?
Friendly bump?
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Wow I have no idea friend. No idea. Seems to be an internal issue with the phone maybe the antena? Not sure. Sorry I know this doesnt help.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the T-mobile Note 2 won't work properly on AT&T because this phone does not support AT&T's LTE band. Similarly, AT&T's Note 2 won't work properly on Tmo's network either.
With that said, the guys over on AT&T's forum have a guide to enable Tmo's band on their phone. Maybe... MAYBE, you can use a similar process to get their band on your phone. ... Then again, I know nothing about that. I just saw the thread and figured it might be beneficial to you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068041
Quick question though, Why did you get a Tmo Note 2 if you're on AT&T?
default159: The T-Mobile T889 will work with AT&T on HSPA only, no LTE. No reversible, safe and repeatable procedure has been established to enable LTE on the T889 yet. The AT&T I317 will work on T-Mobile on HSPA when its been refarmed to 1900 MHz, otherwise on EDGE. It will work on AWS HSPA with the mod posted here.
Shockg911: It could be a number of things, but double check your MMSC settings and possible MMC settings versus AT&T CSC files. If you're familiar with Logcat and DDMS, check that out too.
I understand that this phone has the same hardware and supports the ATT LTE bands. I am done with locked bootloaders, I need confirmation someone is using this phone on ATT Network w LTE successfully without any hacks..
Any other feedback will be great (call quality, radio performance on ATT network)
Seriously pondering getting the T-MO version. I am hoping I can get one off contract.
TIA
I am currently using the phone on at&t. LTE works. Just make sure you set your APN right. I just disabled WiFi calling because it is not supported.
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Yes I am. I had to add the apn and then choose lte in the network section. Works great though.
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Same here. Rooted, unlocked and running very smoothly, no lag at all.
Just need to get a case for it.
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what is the apn setting bc im looking to switch to t mobile with the s3 att
I am NOT able to get this to work at all on mine. I am unlocked, rooted and I am using a red pocket sim that uses AT&T towers.
Any suggestions?
Did you get an unlock code from tmo, a 3rd party, or some sort of debug method a la s3 and note 2?
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Did you get an unlock code from tmo, a 3rd party, or some sort of debug method a la s3 and note 2?
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I'm considering buying the TMO variant to use on AT&T as well and I have a few questions related to this topic:
Would service reception be restricted to just LTE or can the T-Mobile S4 still receive AT&T's E, 3G, etc as well when used on AT&T's network?
Also, and I'm sure this is dependent on the answer to my first question, would the T-Mobile S4 work with the AT&T 3G Microcell?
Whos Lte is faster tmobiles or att.
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Whos Lte is faster tmobiles or att.
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hard to answer; it really depends on the area, but for the most part im pretty confident in saying t-mobiles LTE is faster.
see attached photo
I've been using the T-Mobile version on AT&T for a few days. I unlocked using the debug menu instructions in this forum, setup the AT&T LTE APN and set the preferred network to LTE. It works fine on LTE, hspa, etc.
Speed test results were 53Mb down, 19Mb up, 66ms ping in Raleigh, NC.
I gave away my microcell with my POS iPhone because the Samsung phones performed OK without it. So, I can't answer whether the T-Mobile version will work correctly with a microcell.
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Help please...
Hi all,
I have a Galaxy S4 I9500, I keep my brightness at full all the time. When I finish playing games even "subway surfer" for 10 minutes, and exit to the desktop, I find that brightness is lowered alittle bit & increase gradually to the previous state which is full brightness (from 5 to 10 seconds). Could this be a result of that when playing games, the device uses the 1.6 quad core CPU and upon exit it takes alittle time (those 5 to 10 seconds) to shift to the 1.2 quad core CPU?
Really need your help.
Thanks alot.
So it seems this is the perfect phone to use on AT&T due to all that bootloader problems and crap on the AT&T version.
So folks still running fine without issues with this device on AT&T's network? I know LTE bands over lap so those are fine and the specs for the other frequencies all line up too but any problems with any data or voice stuff at this point after more time has passed? Including text and media messaging?
Screwbal said:
So folks still running fine without issues with this device on AT&T's network? I know LTE bands over lap so those are fine and the specs for the other frequencies all line up too but any problems with any data or voice stuff at this point after more time has passed? Including text and media messaging?
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I had left an area with LTE coverage before I was able to network unlock, so I can't comment as to how LTE is working... but I've had no problems using it on Edge or 3G, texting/mms, etc. It even works flawlessly on my Microcell with no modifications other than the network unlock.
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I understand that this phone has the same hardware and supports the ATT LTE bands. I am done with locked bootloaders, I need confirmation someone is using this phone on ATT Network w LTE successfully without any hacks..
Any other feedback will be great (call quality, radio performance on ATT network)
Seriously pondering getting the T-MO version. I am hoping I can get one off contract.
TIA
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Mohan,
Which phone are you getting? The T-mobile version or the Google S4? I read online that the Google version of S4 is the same as the T-mobile version. I'm a T-mobile customer but I want to follow you using the Embryo rom on your new phone selection and hopefully get wifi-calling feature. I'm currently using the Embryo rom on my T989. Thanks.
adding an APN ... issues
lemme ask what will undoubtedly be a noob question. i've unlocked my T-Mo S4. confirmed. i popped in my AT&T iPhone 5's SIM card and boot up. i see that i have a signal, am able to make and receive phone calls. but no data. when i look at the APN, i'm seeing Cingular APN. what gives? i thought the phone would auto-detect and attach to the correct APN and i'd be good-to-go. thoughts? do i need to manually add the APN? I have all of the info necessary. when i try to add the APN, i am able to get to the proper menu, add all of the info. however, when i try to "save" the info, it never shows up as an APN for me to select. so whatever info i've just entered was never saved.
help!